User talk:Pi zero

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw

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I was wondering if you could take some action on Brazzaville picks up the pieces after ammo depot explosion in terms of its nomination for FA. I voted 'yes'....but, I dunno....I've done a light source check....looked good to me, but still, I dunno. I have to disappear for about the next 5 days, so, there's that. --Bddpaux (talk) 18:10, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do in upcoming days. --Pi zero (talk) 20:20, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

It makes no sense, really.......[edit]

.....that you're only just now getting this!!

This award is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.

--Bddpaux (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


Glad you agreed on the tweak to this, it has been becoming increasingly obvious the button was being used as a way of asking for collaborative help. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:06, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

@Brian McNeil: I'm okay with the tweak. I'm skeptical it'll solve the problem. What we need is interactive assistance all over the place on this site to explain to people what's going on at each moment. Most of the edits we're getting lately are IPs who throw stuff up here, of various descriptions, on the assumption that it's a wiki so anything they think relevant just gets thrown up here, and leave.
And speaking of interactive assistance, I'm now graduating to the next step with my tools... even though I haven't finished the previous step. I still need to add better error-handling, but in starting to do that I've finally admitted I need to have better provisions for testing the tools, suitable for testing upgrades before deploying them — and so now I'm building an interactive assistant for adding a test for a dialog action. It's a really simple assistant, and proving to be quite complicated. I always figured that once I had the low-level tools, learning idioms for using them effectively would be a big challenge; well, it is. I'm thinking what's needed is a storyboard/flowchart for the assistant, but that's hard to do manually so you really want... an interactive assistant. Basically, a wizard wizard. I'm thinking on it. --Pi zero (talk) 12:18, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


I know but it's hard to find categories that match my article. Im sure there are articles about murders. Why aren't those in a category?

Yours truly,


PS sorry if the format or the way I replied was wrong; I couldnt find a new conversation button on the mobile site ;)

@AKA Casey Rollins: In fact we don't have a category specifically for murder. Someday perhaps we will, but creating such a thing would be a really vast undertaking; we have about twenty thousand published articles in our archives; how many of those do you suppose would belong in such a category? We put each article in at least one section category, such as Category:Crime and law or Category:Politics and conflicts, and a geocat, such as Category:Missouri (and anything in Category:Missouri should also go in Category:United States and Category:North America). We put articles in other categories when they exist. But we don't require that every article have narrow categories describing it precisely.
Btw, I have an “add comment" tab — but I'm not accessing from a mobile device. --Pi zero (talk) 02:55, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks much. I fixed it, the issue was that the first category was tiered too low.

On our little Ferguson controversy ;) I heard the reports first late at night on 105.9 FM WMAL.

Don’t freak out when it says that some anonymous guy just edited your talk page; Mom doesn’t want me to log in on her Mac ;)

Yours truly,


New article[edit]

Hi. I would like you to visit my recent sketch for a new article. It is here. Thanks in advance! --FiloActual (talk) 05:24, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

@FiloActual: I'll try my very best. Working around various distractions, of course (including another article that will go stale if not processed today UTC). At a guess, I suspect your article will take some thought for news neutrality, much of which has to do with stating only facts, dealing with opinions by attributing them to whoever said them (because even though the opinion isn't an objective fact, it may be an objective fact that such-and-such person expressed that opinion).
You've got one article to your credit on English Wikinews already, I'm reminded. --Pi zero (talk) 12:37, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
@Pi Zero: I was clearing up the neutral point of view, hope now it's better. I love wikinews and I want to contribute on a regular basis, although I have to work every day -as usual. Thank you ! :-)--FiloActual (talk) 14:36, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
@Pi Zero: And just a doubt: you moved the article's title to "Manhattanʼs 'Little Spain' comes to to big screen (...)". I wonder if it is absolutely correct grammatically, as I read you use two times "to to". Isn't "comes to big screen"? Thanks for that.--FiloActual (talk) 15:06, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Oops, yeah, that was a typo. Fixed; thanks. --Pi zero (talk) 15:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
I think the article now is ready to fly. Please, can you make final review or approve it before its too late? It was ready in the morning.--FiloActual (talk) 23:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
As best I can tell, it's pretty fresh. I was disappointed not to get to it today; I'm hoping I can get to it tomorrow morning. I can see a few small things that will want adjustment during review; I've no way to know whether some larger problem might come up during review, until and unless it did come up during review. Which we can hope it doesn't. --Pi zero (talk) 01:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi, many thanks! I added a new review after watching the documentary, that is for sale. Changed lede and cleaned speculative comments -although obviously every single newyorker would say you that he knows where Spanish Harlem is, but will have less (or no) idea about what was Little Spain at the beginning of XXth century. Also, the press release at the Spanish Benevolent Society website displays clearly that the text is for free distribution, so no copyright issues. --FiloActual (talk) 13:58, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Please, can you review the changes I made on the article following suggestions by Brian? Thank you.--FiloActual (talk) 15:41, 28 November 2014 (UTC)


Good to see you are still around and active! Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 12:26, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Brian :-). I have big hopes for the project, building upward from my dialog tools — which I consider almost ready for heavy-duty use — to high-level wiki assistants. --Pi zero (talk) 14:50, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

USI journalism students[edit]

Pi zero,

Greetings from USI! I have a new group of students for the class that contributes to Wikinews in the spring. I will meet them for the first time this week. I'm hoping that we can replicate what we did last time. Do you have any suggestions?

Crtew (talk) 21:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Btw, I've a technical problem ongoing for at least a month now, that I can't view most videos. --Pi zero (talk) 22:49, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Mentioned by Viriditas[edit]

You are mentioned by Viriditas (talk · contribs) here: -- Cirt (talk) 23:45, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Pi zero, could you please comment there? Viriditas is trying to take this opportunity to attack you and create an ad hominem situation here. -- Cirt (talk) 00:43, 19 January 2015 (UTC)


hi least of the world famous orszgárol it is now because when I write mostly news pushed the country to write about but if you have any questions west Irish Disorders


Are you working on some misc. disambiguation pages?? There's weird goings-on in the Newsroom. --Bddpaux (talk) 21:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

That does look odd. It looks, off hand, like a complete list of our mainspace disambiguation pages, which we worked out a scheme for in relatively recent history — but nothing about those pages has changed in I think at least a few months. However, Tuesdays are when the wiki software is updated, so this is probably something that got screwed up by a software change. If they've broken the DPL mechanism, they may have screwed up our ability to correctly regulate which of our articles are published to google news.
I'll have to look into it more closely, immediately. --Pi zero (talk) 21:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Ohh. Phew. Those appear to be relatively newly created disambiguation pages. It's just a matter of how such pages are set up; not urgent, but I'll get to it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. --Pi zero (talk) 21:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Tom Wolf inaugurated as Pennsylvania Governor[edit]

Thanks for reviewing! Sorry about the Jim Cawley thing, probably should have ref'd this page for the election stuff. At any rate, thanks for your diligence. And thanks also for scraping off some of the rust; I've not written as much news recently as I used to. Tyrol5 (talk) 04:48, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. :-)  --Pi zero (talk) 05:00, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Autoblockedtext[edit]

Your sig here's gotten messed, somehow. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 17:19, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

pre block terminated with <pre> instead of </pre>. --Pi zero (talk) 18:05, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much[edit]

Thank you for your comments at WN:AAA in support of me.

Much appreciated,

-- Cirt (talk) 19:58, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Fire ravages large academic library in Moscow[edit]

Can you confirm you got my email re: this and it looks usable? Since I'm rather nervous about closing or refreshing the relevant tab, and I'd rather like to do a restart. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:26, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

If what you sent was about 1.5k of text, I've got it. --Pi zero (talk) 13:37, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Sounds about right, ta. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:39, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Pricasso paints pleasing portraits with penis[edit]

Wondered if you might have a chance to look over this one?

Thanks so much,

-- Cirt (talk) 20:36, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Did so. Commented. --Pi zero (talk) 20:59, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
I've emailed Pricasso for an interview request. -- Cirt (talk) 21:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Aside from a possible interview, let me know if you have any other ideas on how to salvage the article for an article that could be published. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 21:04, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Request for revdel[edit]

Can you please change the visibility of this revision, as it contains information that I regret disclosing. Thanks, George.Edward.C (talk) 20:16, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

  • Done, I hope neither of you mind me jumping in here. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 20:23, 8 February 2015 (UTC)


I need you to autoconfirm my account. this will help me to develop my artiles mnore sufficiently. Thanks in advance. I'm feeling slightly mellow (talk) 12:08, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

@I'm feeling slightly mellow: There's little here that requires autoconfirmation. If you'd like an article renamed before you're autoconfirmed, just request the rename on the article's collaboration page. --Pi zero (talk) 12:35, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Okay, publish my page then please. I don't always feel mellow so this is your chance to get me on board and improve wikinews. I'm feeling slightly mellow (talk) 18:23, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
If it takes any longer to publish I might end up having mellow myself up using a few substances. I'm feeling slightly mellow (talk) 00:20, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Is it ready now? Im getting REALLY mellow at this point .... I'm feeling slightly mellow (talk) 01:23, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Another review?[edit]

How about another review? I'm feeling slightly mellow (talk) 20:56, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

@I'm feeling slightly mellow: If and when I can, I will. For perspective, I'm in central Massachusetts, where we're just digging ourselves out from another big snowstorm. We've had something like six feet (two meters) of snow in the past couple of weeks or so. I've been clearing snow most of the day, punctuated with Wikinews when I had to come in to warm up. Since I've reached my limit for physical labor today, after recovering from it maybe I can do another review this evening. (I learned long ago never to promise to do a review; it is a volunteer project, after all.) --Pi zero (talk) 21:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)


This user User:Mike Halterman is listed in the accredited reporters list, but I haven't seen him around in a he still active?? --Bddpaux (talk) 22:17, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

He hasn't been on-wiki in several years. He's a professional journalist, and got some recognition a few years back. The last time en.wn was nominated for closure, as I recall, he came by the discussion to say en.wn is respected outside the wikimedian community — that his en.wn resume had been an asset with potential employers. Since then he's lurked a lot on the #wikinews IRC channel, and once was involved in a discussion there that resulted in a solid en.wn publication on which, as I recall, the mainstream media was being slow picking up on the story. --Pi zero (talk) 22:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Tireless Contribution[edit]

With all due motivation and enthusiasm, I have been trying to develop Wikinews. I regret to say this but review's are discouraging me at any go. I require your guidance and experience but why do you seem to be so arrogant. After 3 days, having received no comment I have put two of my articles under publish Cricket World Cup: Bangladesh defeated Afghanistan by 105 runs, Demolition of Hindu temples in the US , wrote on the wall ' Get Out ' condemnation around. At least cite a reason for their shortfall, don't remain arrogant. --Abhinav619 (talk) 02:08, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Abhinav619. I had already been thinking, about the time you left this note, that I really should try to compose a note of encouragement for you.
Review is challenging, all around. We do our best to review submissions promptly, but remember, reviewers are volunteers too. Usually, the more experienced the writer, the easier review will be for the reviewer — but even if the writer is a Wikinews veteran, reviewing a modest-sized synthesis article they've written can easily take an hour or more. I was glad I was able to marshal the time and energy to do two back-to-back reviews of this article, and get it published for you.
A note on google translate, although I realize you've said you won't be doing that anymore. Translated text is still under the copyright of the original. So if the non-English original is from a wiki, you need to comply with the copyright of the wiki, and if the original is a copyrighted news source you mustn't use a straight translation of it here.
Have you read WN:Pillars of Wikinews writing? There are quite a lot of important points densely packed into that essay. --Pi zero (talk) 11:45, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Adam Johnson[edit]

Not the most important story in the world, granted, but why put it at lead #5 when lead #1 has been in that slot since 19th February and the world has long since lost interest in what the Telegraph may or may not have done to keep HSBC happy? Bencherlite (talk) 08:49, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

It didn't feel like Lead 1 material. If I'd chosen to replace Lead 1 I'd have replaced it with one of the other leads, and the relative weighting of date and importance would be messy; so I decided to just let that decision wait will the next publication, at which time the current Lead 1 will be due to go away entirely so that one way or another such a decision gets made. --Pi zero (talk) 20:37, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Not that I care particularly about the issue, but I don't think you can be that fussy about what is, and what isn't, lead 1 material given the lack of new material to choose from. Bencherlite (talk) 22:35, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
It's a matter of priorities. It's been clear before you and I don't altogether agree about the function of leads when output gets slow. I'd like to have a significant story as Lead 1; if it's a recent one, that's clearly desirable, but I'm not inclined to go out of my way to put a less "big" story there — and it would have required going out of one's way in this case to put another story there, because the oldest story was the one in the number five slot. I'd have had to do a bunch of rearranging if I was to keep the five most recent stories as leads and put a different one in the number one spot. --Pi zero (talk) 22:42, 3 March 2015 (UTC)