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Would you mind making a decision re: this FA nomination?[edit]

I say 'no' based upon yours/author's comments........however, since I said 'yes' some time back, it'd be weird (in the very least) for me to say 'no' now. Brazzaville picks up the pieces after ammo depot explosion --Bddpaux (talk) 21:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

I can maybe take a look tonight and see what I think.
The thing is, if I were to decide to clear it of my objection and vote in favor, it still wouldn't have enough support yet in my opinion; I believe my comment has been discouraging votes from it. So if I vote in favor it stays open; and if I don't, well... I suppose I could close it as "no consensus", but that seems kind of lame. Hm. --Pi zero (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
(postscript: I prefer five votes in favor to pass, four in a pinch.) --Pi zero (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

New to Wikinews[edit]

I am pretty new to this sister project. I need your help on urgent basis. Can you get me some very good articles on War and Peace. The article that I have published so far, just do not meet the quality which others meet. Secondly, How do i quote someone on WIkinews, example a statement made by X leader. Lastly, are you an Indian? asking out of curiosity, both zero and pie were discovered in India. --Abhinav619 (talk) 09:38, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

The first place to look for examples of high-quality articles is Category:Featured article. Although featured articles are most often OR, there are some synthesis, too (and even a few photo essays); here's a list (this should work) of
There are some good examples of quoting people in those featured synthesis articles.
If those examples aren't what you're looking for, or don't help, let me know.
I"m in the North American Eastern Time Zone (currently UTC-4, switching in a few weeks to UTC-5 for the winter). So my local time is about ten hours behind India's (plus or minus half a hour).
I'm partial to apple pie, myself. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 13:38, 18 September 2014 (UTC)


@Nikebrand I would if I could. They've taken away the ability of bureaucrats to rename users. I think it's taken care of now somewhere on meta, but frankly I can't find it. Even the page on meta about renaming users makes the — now, apparently, false — statement that local bureaucrats can do it. --Pi zero (talk) 19:42, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
For the sake of it, the page is meta:Steward requests/Username changes. —Mikemoral♪♫ 03:26, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

My, my, my...........[edit]'ve certainly given someone a bit of a gastric bleed! What with your standards and what-not!  :] --Bddpaux (talk) 22:21, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Alas, I don't think the language barrier is enough to explain goings on. But, we'll see what develops.
The notice at the top of my page that my user name has been mentioned on 32 pages is... rather annoying. --Pi zero (talk) 22:41, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Category:Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia[edit]

Thanks for your help at Category:Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia.

Is there a way to add a param to display Wikidata, the link is but some sites link via the name and some via the number ID.

-- Cirt (talk) 00:32, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

The wikidata parameter was added to the template for a while, then I had doubts and commented in out (diff), and lately I've been thinking it should be uncommented. --Pi zero (talk) 00:43, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Well, there's a slot for Wikinews by default over at the Wikidata pages, not sure how it's used yet, but you could try asking over there on that site to get more info. I think it's very useful, overall! -- Cirt (talk) 00:44, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
At any rate, I've reenabled the wikidata parameter on the template. --Pi zero (talk) 00:51, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Ah, okay, thank you! Hope you're doing well, -- Cirt (talk) 02:46, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Why are being not fresh articles are not deleted immediately?[edit]

--Nikebrand (talk) 18:18, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Published articles, of course, go into our archive and are kept forever; our archive is a valuable resource, and grows more valuable with time and with each additional article published. (Commercial news sites tend, sooner or later, to put their archives behind paywalls.) Each article in our archives is a snapshot in time, of what an event looked like at the time it happened — that is, it was fresh at the time it was published.
Articles that are already stale when written, we do not publish; freshness is part of the definition of news (see WN:Newsworthiness). However, if the author of the article is sincerely trying to produce publishable articles, we usually wouldn't immediately delete it for anything less than blatant copyright violation or libel. If the author is sincerely trying to produce publishable articles, and the author is continuing to work on an article even though they know there is something about the article that prevents it from being publishable, then presumably they are attempting to fix the problem. If they conclude the problem is not fixable, presumably they'll stop working on it, and after a while it'll be deleted as abandoned. --Pi zero (talk) 18:57, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
This rule is real and I have to understand this here. The US science knows anyhow all in their secret archives much better. But it makes a sense to learn English without teachers or payments and Wikimedia is a motivation. The official learning matters are so boring. I will create the next article about Nuremberg versus RB Leipzig as soon as possible. It takes place in the future. --Nikebrand (talk) 20:45, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Nikebrand, you may find WN:Article wizard of interest. --Pi zero (talk) 21:17, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
  1. Confirmed. --Nikebrand (talk) 23:09, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

RE: Brazil reports first suspected Ebola case[edit]

Sorry my bad english, no speak native english. Problems in my notice? Sorry. This was completed. Saskeh (talk) 22:32, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

use present tenses !only! --Nikebrand (talk) 23:07, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

???? Saskeh (talk) 23:37, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Ok, Pi zero. Saskeh (talk) 23:37, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

RE: Synthesis articles[edit]

Sorry if my english is not good for you. Got it in your case "synthesis news/articles", but go to straight to the point: sources and news can be played here, as are the Creative Commons (CC), but how can I proceed in this case? Saskeh (talk) 17:57, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

First, you need a focus that is fresh. The focus of the first article, Brazil reports first suspected Ebola case, is now four days ago, so it isn't fresh. It looks as if the focus of the second article, Second test proves Guinea man in Brazil does not have Ebola, is only one day old. Right now, that is still fresh.
Second, you need at least two sources, that are independent of each other. You have one source article, from Agência Brasil. So you need a second source article, that was written independently of the one you have. You should be able to find other articles about the same focus, independent of the one you have, by searching a news aggregator, such as gnews, for keywords "Ebola Brazil".
Third, you need to write your article in your own words. This may be difficult for you if you have trouble writing in English. Remember, you mustn't copy phrases from the source articles (if a source is in English), and you mustn't simply translate phrases into English (if a source is in another language). --Pi zero (talk) 18:34, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Editors' blog security[edit]

I take it you've had numerous password recovery emails about your account on the editors' blog? The security module on the site has given me a couple of alerts over IP addresses trying to use that, or brute-force accounts, and yours seems to be one that has been targeted. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

I've finally reached the point where I'm losing track of my passwords. I'm still successfully logging into my email account, the password for which I changed after you notified us to change passwords a while back. I've just checked and confirmed that I can't log into the journalists workspace, which is either because the password changed on me, or I changed it and forgot to write it down, or I wrote it down and now can't read my handwriting. I don't remember whether the blog was separate from that, and I'm not aware of having received password recovery emails (but since I haven't been able to manage my emails properly in some time, they could be just lost in the crowd). I've got my laptop configuration in such a mess I suspect my best bet is to buy a new laptop just so I can set it up before trying to extract myself from the old one. --Pi zero (talk) 15:10, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

w:Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Parallels with en.wn[edit]

Hi, there! I've left a reply under your comment at the above linked discussion. I'll add to it here, for lack of space/focus over there, that your work on making the user interface over here a bit less intimidating is very interesting. Indeed, I wasn't even aware of it before you commented over at WT:RFA. In the meantime, I figure a bit of encouragement couldn't hurt; it gets lonely over here sometimes, I'm sure. Keep up the terrific work. Tyrol5 (talk) 00:36, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that article wasn't fully published.[edit]

I just wanted to say "There's not too much information about this publisher, but this interview adds a lot. This helped my research greatly, thank you!" XiuBouLin (talk) 14:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

No harm done, XiuBouLin. There have just been some technical glitches in the review process; it's the reporter's first time submitting to Wikinews, so everything's new for them. --Pi zero (talk) 16:14, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


I was wondering if you could take some action on Brazzaville picks up the pieces after ammo depot explosion in terms of its nomination for FA. I voted 'yes'....but, I dunno....I've done a light source check....looked good to me, but still, I dunno. I have to disappear for about the next 5 days, so, there's that. --Bddpaux (talk) 18:10, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do in upcoming days. --Pi zero (talk) 20:20, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

It makes no sense, really.......[edit]

.....that you're only just now getting this!!

This award is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.

--Bddpaux (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


Glad you agreed on the tweak to this, it has been becoming increasingly obvious the button was being used as a way of asking for collaborative help. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:06, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

@Brian McNeil: I'm okay with the tweak. I'm skeptical it'll solve the problem. What we need is interactive assistance all over the place on this site to explain to people what's going on at each moment. Most of the edits we're getting lately are IPs who throw stuff up here, of various descriptions, on the assumption that it's a wiki so anything they think relevant just gets thrown up here, and leave.
And speaking of interactive assistance, I'm now graduating to the next step with my tools... even though I haven't finished the previous step. I still need to add better error-handling, but in starting to do that I've finally admitted I need to have better provisions for testing the tools, suitable for testing upgrades before deploying them — and so now I'm building an interactive assistant for adding a test for a dialog action. It's a really simple assistant, and proving to be quite complicated. I always figured that once I had the low-level tools, learning idioms for using them effectively would be a big challenge; well, it is. I'm thinking what's needed is a storyboard/flowchart for the assistant, but that's hard to do manually so you really want... an interactive assistant. Basically, a wizard wizard. I'm thinking on it. --Pi zero (talk) 12:18, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


I know but it's hard to find categories that match my article. Im sure there are articles about murders. Why aren't those in a category?

Yours truly,


PS sorry if the format or the way I replied was wrong; I couldnt find a new conversation button on the mobile site ;)

@AKA Casey Rollins: In fact we don't have a category specifically for murder. Someday perhaps we will, but creating such a thing would be a really vast undertaking; we have about twenty thousand published articles in our archives; how many of those do you suppose would belong in such a category? We put each article in at least one section category, such as Category:Crime and law or Category:Politics and conflicts, and a geocat, such as Category:Missouri (and anything in Category:Missouri should also go in Category:United States and Category:North America). We put articles in other categories when they exist. But we don't require that every article have narrow categories describing it precisely.
Btw, I have an “add comment" tab — but I'm not accessing from a mobile device. --Pi zero (talk) 02:55, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks much. I fixed it, the issue was that the first category was tiered too low.

On our little Ferguson controversy ;) I heard the reports first late at night on 105.9 FM WMAL.

Don’t freak out when it says that some anonymous guy just edited your talk page; Mom doesn’t want me to log in on her Mac ;)

Yours truly,


New article[edit]

Hi. I would like you to visit my recent sketch for a new article. It is here. Thanks in advance! --FiloActual (talk) 05:24, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

@FiloActual: I'll try my very best. Working around various distractions, of course (including another article that will go stale if not processed today UTC). At a guess, I suspect your article will take some thought for news neutrality, much of which has to do with stating only facts, dealing with opinions by attributing them to whoever said them (because even though the opinion isn't an objective fact, it may be an objective fact that such-and-such person expressed that opinion).
You've got one article to your credit on English Wikinews already, I'm reminded. --Pi zero (talk) 12:37, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
@Pi Zero: I was clearing up the neutral point of view, hope now it's better. I love wikinews and I want to contribute on a regular basis, although I have to work every day -as usual. Thank you ! :-)--FiloActual (talk) 14:36, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
@Pi Zero: And just a doubt: you moved the article's title to "Manhattanʼs 'Little Spain' comes to to big screen (...)". I wonder if it is absolutely correct grammatically, as I read you use two times "to to". Isn't "comes to big screen"? Thanks for that.--FiloActual (talk) 15:06, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Oops, yeah, that was a typo. Fixed; thanks. --Pi zero (talk) 15:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
I think the article now is ready to fly. Please, can you make final review or approve it before its too late? It was ready in the morning.--FiloActual (talk) 23:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
As best I can tell, it's pretty fresh. I was disappointed not to get to it today; I'm hoping I can get to it tomorrow morning. I can see a few small things that will want adjustment during review; I've no way to know whether some larger problem might come up during review, until and unless it did come up during review. Which we can hope it doesn't. --Pi zero (talk) 01:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi, many thanks! I added a new review after watching the documentary, that is for sale. Changed lede and cleaned speculative comments -although obviously every single newyorker would say you that he knows where Spanish Harlem is, but will have less (or no) idea about what was Little Spain at the beginning of XXth century. Also, the press release at the Spanish Benevolent Society website displays clearly that the text is for free distribution, so no copyright issues. --FiloActual (talk) 13:58, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Please, can you review the changes I made on the article following suggestions by Brian? Thank you.--FiloActual (talk) 15:41, 28 November 2014 (UTC)