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Latest comment: 10 years ago by Pi zero in topic Review of revision 2516452 [Passed]

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Transcript translated to English (3:09 - 3:49):
As the president I will stand up for them, I will stand up for the people, for every decent person of our country. (applause) And I promise I will try to fulfill what we need so much. I will try to humanize our politics, I will try to re-establish trust and decency, because people are frustated of disputes and such a things. As the president I will do everything to make our politics, in Slovakia, more human.
  • Wikipedia can't be used as a source. Information on Wikipedia is by its nature not trust-worthy. Wikipedia may itself cite sources that are trust-worthy, but if so, get the information directly from those sources, and cite them; while if it doesn't cite trust-worthy sources, that calls the information into question anyway.
  • Could you, please, provide the Slovak original from which this English text is translated? Not only would this be good to provide for our readers (we have a template, which I can set up for you if I have the text), but it's hard for a non-Slovak-speaking reviewer to verify what is said on the video directly against the English translation.
  • Do I understand correctly that the press conference was on Saturday?
--Pi zero (talk) 15:42, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Review of revision 2515882 [Not ready]

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Latest comment: 10 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Revision 2515882 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 16:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC).Reply

Comments by reviewer:

  • I've got three [or is it four] verification problems here. Two [three?] of them are covered by my remarks above, concerning Wikipedia and Slovak original for the provided translation. My third difficulty is the fourth column of the table; if this was in this source, I didn't find it. Moreover, I counted the districts on the election results page, and found only 49 of them.
  • The problem with Wikipedia applies to, essentially, the whole "background section that used to be set apart by section headings. The translation thing... well, it'd be nice to have more solid verification and so on.
  • Regarding freshness. With our recently busy review queue, we'd now need to either move fairly quickly on this, or use some sort of new development in the story to refresh it. Probably a new development would help a lot, such as 9minimally) something said by someone (such as Kiska) more recently; without some new development, the article has, as a practical matter, a little more than 30 hours of freshness.

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If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Revision 2515882 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 16:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC).Reply

Comments by reviewer:

  • I've got three [or is it four] verification problems here. Two [three?] of them are covered by my remarks above, concerning Wikipedia and Slovak original for the provided translation. My third difficulty is the fourth column of the table; if this was in this source, I didn't find it. Moreover, I counted the districts on the election results page, and found only 49 of them.
  • The problem with Wikipedia applies to, essentially, the whole "background section that used to be set apart by section headings. The translation thing... well, it'd be nice to have more solid verification and so on.
  • Regarding freshness. With our recently busy review queue, we'd now need to either move fairly quickly on this, or use some sort of new development in the story to refresh it. Probably a new development would help a lot, such as 9minimally) something said by someone (such as Kiska) more recently; without some new development, the article has, as a practical matter, a little more than 30 hours of freshness.

Questions about the above? Ask.

If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Review of revision 2516452 [Passed]

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Latest comment: 10 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

Revision 2516452 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC).Reply

Comments by reviewer:

  • I would still like to get a transcript of the Slovak text that's translated into English. We could certainly add it to the article within 24 hours after publication, and possibly even after that as it's not part of the primary text of the article (though it appears as a mouseover) and so may be permitted even under the archive policy, which governs changes to an article more than 24 hours after publication (though I'd want a second opinion on that).
  • It's great to see news here from the Slovak Republic.

The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 2516452 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC).Reply

Comments by reviewer:

  • I would still like to get a transcript of the Slovak text that's translated into English. We could certainly add it to the article within 24 hours after publication, and possibly even after that as it's not part of the primary text of the article (though it appears as a mouseover) and so may be permitted even under the archive policy, which governs changes to an article more than 24 hours after publication (though I'd want a second opinion on that).
  • It's great to see news here from the Slovak Republic.
The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Sorry, I got an edit conflict. So here is my re:

  • I understand, I didn't use Wikipedia as a source, I used several Slovak articles to provide Kiska's background, including some older interviews with him. I'll look up for some English sources too; I guess there may be at least something about the acquisition in 2005. But the background isn't very important part, so no problem as it is now.
  • Slovak original of the speech (3:09 - 3:49): "Ako prezident budem stáť za nimi, budem stáť za ľuďmi, za každým slušným človekom našej krajiny. (potlesk) A sľubujem, sľubujem, že to, čo tak veľmi potrebujeme sa pokúsim naplniť. Pokúsim sa poľudštiť našu politiku. Pokúsim sa vrátiť naspäť dôveru, slušné slovo, pretože ľudia sú už znechutení z hádok a zo všetkého. Ako prezident spravím všetko preto, aby sa stala naša politika, na Slovensku, ľudskejšia."

("potlesk" means applause)

  • Freshness: Working on update info, we have some news from Kiska.
  • Press conference: Yes, it was on Saturday. Mathematically it was clear that Fico couldn't win, so the press conference started eight minutes before midnight. Moreover, Fico had press conference much earlier, at 23:31 CET, when he admitted his defeat (4th video of TA3 article).
  • Districts: You are right, I made a mistake counting results by administrative districts, not electoral districts.Results are: Kiska: 36, Fico: 13.
  • The quote: I am sorry, it was from Telegraph article (3rd paragraph).

Thank you very much for your work! --DavidStefanSK (talk) 20:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

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