Talk:New Zealander on oxygen machine dies after power disconnection

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Life support[edit]

The use of Life support in this article seems inappropriate. Life support is a set of things far more involved than an oxygen machine. Many elderly people (and others) have oxygen machines to help them breathe. They are not considered to be on Life support. Also none of the sources use that term. --SVTCobra 11:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i was comfortable with the old title - Life Support is any subset of the set of procedures that is required for the patient to remain alive. another alternative for the title would be "respiratory support", which is more precise than "life support" and "oxygen machine", but also more jargon-y. –Doldrums(talk) 13:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree "life support" is for people who are in intensive care in a hospital, not sitting around at home. But feel free to vet this with other editors.
Terri Schiavo was on life support, Oxygen therapy is not life support. IMO. --SVTCobra 14:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would have to agree with you. It's not life support. If it were so essential for her that she would have died within minutes then yes, perhaps it could be called life support. But it was not, as supported by New Zealand doctors (who've said it's not something that was necessary for continuous use) and the circumstances of her death. Perhaps you might want to also consider dialysis machines which are similarly necessary for the patient to remain alive in many circumstances but I've never heard of them being called life support. Nil Einne 18:13, 30 May 2007 (UTC) That didn't come across right. What I meant to say is that if someone needed dialysis e.g. 3 times a week, you probably wouldn't say they were on life support but that they needed dialysis even though the dialysis machine could be called a life support machine Nil Einne 18:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Outstanding amount[edit]

Last night on national television a figure of $168 was quoted, can someone verify how much exactly was outstanding? --Zven 18:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Found in NZ herald --Zven 20:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prime ministers comments[edit]

See News talk zb. Information now coming to light, a medial tube in Mrs Muliagas nose sighted by the contractor. The outstanding amount of $168.40 appears to have been due by June 13, but the disconnection happened on May 29. --Zven 20:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]