Talk:Scotland says 'No' in independence referendum

OR Notes

• Just voted myself. Steady stream of folks into the polling station where they split into four rooms of the local school based on your street. Were a half-dozen in front of me in 'booth one' as they described it. This was before 8am.
• Andy Murray, previously indicating support for the Union, came out for Yes last night: "Huge day for Scotland today! no campaign negativity last few days totally swayed my view on it. excited to see the outcome. lets do this!"

• Seen via Facebook: "Around 30 people queued outside polling station in South Queensferry at 7am, waiting for it to open".
• Similar story from acquaintance who voted in Drumbrae (west side) of Edinburgh this morning.

Just working through a handful of photos taken this morning, few things to do then expect to get a bunch more. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 07:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

'Heavyweight' Scottish journalist, Iain Macwhirter, to vote Yes

• Iain Macwhirter. "The Union finally lost it last week. I’m voting yes." — Wordpress.com, September 17, 2014

Photos

Just a few to start with, pick as you please:

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--Brian McNeil / ^talk 08:26, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

With my Commons Admin hat on, some of these would on face value fail derivative work of non free content, the posters which are the main focus of the pictures have a copyright not compatiable with Freedom of panorama, most importantly they are not intended for permanent display. Need to be sure that the Yes campaign will release these to us for use.--KTo288 (talk) 11:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

• I will ask, but we can Fair Use/Fair Dealing for Wikinews if needed. If you look at the local page for these (sans MediaViewer), do you get an "Add local description" page? I started, months ago, so I could categorise my photos — especially those used locally — creating those before the tab appeared. I am hoping this is a small step towards not having to overly-worry about that Commons hat ;-)

It's pretty much the approach we'd take on the advertising — the news justifies it, but having permission would be nice. Getting the permission is far-less time-critical than getting the news published. Just about to pop up another couple. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:02, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Couple more, ...

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I'm probably going to do more cleanup on these as I'd be very surprised if they fall-foul of any Commons rules. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:33, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

File:Scottish IndyRef 2014 11.jpg

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These have the graduated filter cleaned up more. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I like this group, summarises this story quite well.--KTo288 (talk)

Faking it

• Darren Boyle. "Pro-Union guerrillas 'projection bomb' Scottish landmarks with 50ft No logo on eve of historic decision" — The Daily Mail, September 18, 2014

All three of the 'No' projections have undergone extensive photoshoppery - if they're even real. Here's why:

1. The "Vote yes" (from Getty) is an honest reflection of yesterday's weather here in Edinburgh.
2. The 'No' on Edinburgh's Castle rock is duplicated from Scottish Labour's twitter feed, but cropped to hide the impossible projection angle (from in the middle of the road) and unbroken despite being shown hitting the trees.
3. None of the 'No' logo images show the slightest irregularity based on varying distance to projection surface; most-apparent on the armadillo.

The only possible counter is this one photo I tracked down from a Better Together supporter. That'd suggest they did the projection there, but then 'shopped it to hell so the Daily Mail could be smartarses about the Vote Yes one from Getty. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 09:43, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Notes from BBC News 24 and Sky

Just under 3.3 million voters, voter registration 97% of eligible population. Voters include some 100,000 16-17 year olds. approx 400 polling station with 8000 voters each, demographics vary between sparsely populated highlands and Isles, and major population centres such as Glasgow. Timeline

• September 18th

7.00 am. Polling stations open, as Brian noted above queues at many polling stations, indicating the possibility of a record turn out.

10.00 pm. Polling stations close.

• September 19th

2.00 am. Results of first counts expected. Race to be the first to finish.

4:00 am. Counts from main urban centres should have been completed, because of the demographic distribution, should be clear which way the vote has gone.

6:00 am . Final results expected.

--KTo288 (talk) 11:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

• RT is contradicting, citing the 97% voter registration as 4.2 million. Will double-check that's not 4.2mill eligible to register next round. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

• Okay, done some checking; the Sky figures are of questionable-accuracy. Checked Wikipedia's 2011 stats, excluded the under-16s, and 97% registration is close-enough to 4.2 million to be credible. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:38, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

My fault I think doing it from memory.striking out--KTo288 (talk) 22:15, 18 September 2014 (UTC)and I had it right in the article self too.--KTo288 (talk)

• 10.30pm Latest. Yougov polling guy predicts that it will be 54%No and 46% Yes, on a 90% turnout.--KTo288 (talk) 22:15, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Turnout/votes - from BBC (live)

• Scottish borders 87.4%
• North Ayrshire 84.4%
• Western Isles 86.2%

Reactions

6:20 Salmond

6:40 Darling

Cameron will issue a statement at 7:00

Still waiting for the Highlands

From BBC News ticker at 8:00

Highlands still to declare "Yes" 1,539,930 'No" 1,914,187

Final declartion at 8:12 87% yes, 78,069 no 87,739,

Final total, Yes 1,617,989, No 2,001,926

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I assume there is a confusion in the 1st paragraph: shouldn't it be "55% voted against and 45% voted for the proposition" rather than the current sentence? Gyrostat (talk) 10:26, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Fixed —Tom Morris (talk) 11:37, 19 September 2014 (UTC)