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[edit]Hi, I've had to block AvicBot as it is malfunctioning. Special:BrokenRedirects is not an area for a double-redirect bot on this wiki; it is doing damage by removing chains of intentionally-broken optional redirects from what is essentially a deletion queue used to allow deferment and monitoring of tedious tasks. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:23, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Blood Red Sandman: Duly noted. I've disabled EnWn from AvicBots redirect work. Sorry about that, and thanks for the heads up. Do you want me to go back and revert the fixes? -Avicennasis (SWMT) 13:30, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- I'd prefer the bot goes back to fixing double redirects, as was its function, and leaves broken redirects alone. Double redirect bots are convenient to have around. But yes, if you could please rebreak any "fixed" broken mainspace redirects, that would useful. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:32, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Blood Red Sandman: Hmm. Can you point out an example of one of these ""fixed" broken mainspace redirects"? Looking at AvicBot's mainspace contribs doesn't show any recent edits, unless they've already been deleted? -Avicennasis (SWMT) 13:37, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- Here, talkpage for a mainspace redirect, which would have showed up in BrokenRedirects (and simultaneously alerted one to its orphaned counterpart; I am one volunteer, and cannot monitor every queue). Both 'halves' of the redirect (main and corresponding talk) fall to be deleted, much like the talkpage for a deleted mainspace article is tied to that article. The bot broke a second chance to find it, and it was by sheer luck I noticed. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Blood Red Sandman: Hmm. AvicBot doesn't process broken redirects. It looks like at the time AvicBot made that edit (16:54, 29 January 2017) it was a double-redirect, which was fixed in that edit. It would have become a broken redirect at 18:36, 29 January 2017 when you deleted Talk:U.S. federal judge halts Trump's ban on refugees, people from Muslim countries entering the U.S.. So in this case, AvicBot just did his job of only fixing double-redirects. -Avicennasis (SWMT) 13:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- <scratches head> That leaves me wondering... Why is the bot working on articles that aren't published, and hence have potentially unstable titles? BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 14:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Blood Red Sandman: AvicBot processes anything that shows up at Special:DoubleRedirects, whether it's published or not. The MediaWiki software makes no distinction on redirects there. -Avicennasis (SWMT) 14:03, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- <scratches head> That leaves me wondering... Why is the bot working on articles that aren't published, and hence have potentially unstable titles? BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 14:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Blood Red Sandman: Hmm. AvicBot doesn't process broken redirects. It looks like at the time AvicBot made that edit (16:54, 29 January 2017) it was a double-redirect, which was fixed in that edit. It would have become a broken redirect at 18:36, 29 January 2017 when you deleted Talk:U.S. federal judge halts Trump's ban on refugees, people from Muslim countries entering the U.S.. So in this case, AvicBot just did his job of only fixing double-redirects. -Avicennasis (SWMT) 13:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- Here, talkpage for a mainspace redirect, which would have showed up in BrokenRedirects (and simultaneously alerted one to its orphaned counterpart; I am one volunteer, and cannot monitor every queue). Both 'halves' of the redirect (main and corresponding talk) fall to be deleted, much like the talkpage for a deleted mainspace article is tied to that article. The bot broke a second chance to find it, and it was by sheer luck I noticed. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Blood Red Sandman: Hmm. Can you point out an example of one of these ""fixed" broken mainspace redirects"? Looking at AvicBot's mainspace contribs doesn't show any recent edits, unless they've already been deleted? -Avicennasis (SWMT) 13:37, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- I'd prefer the bot goes back to fixing double redirects, as was its function, and leaves broken redirects alone. Double redirect bots are convenient to have around. But yes, if you could please rebreak any "fixed" broken mainspace redirects, that would useful. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:32, 30 January 2017 (UTC)