User talk:Daniel575

You can also reach me on my Wikipedia talk page. I will respond to questions posted here on your own talk page.

I have noticed you joined the category:Israel argument, just a reminder To follow WN:E. I have also noticed that you don't seem to like PVJ very much [1]

[2]you may be intreasted in Wikinews:Dispute resolution. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

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personal attacks

i believe u're a 'pedia user and u may be familiar with the gist of w:Wikipedia:No personal attacks. pls follow it. persistent refusal to do so will get u blocked. telling other editors they belong in psychiatric hospitals constitutes a personal attack, as you probably know .  — Doldrums(talk) 16:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Just because he made it doesn't give you license to continue. If you think you're above him, please act so. —this is messedrocker (talk) 16:55, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

mesg on my talk page

I can understand that you don't much like people who deney your country's exsitance. Notwidthstanding you still have to be nice to them. I don't agree with PVJ, but he still has the right to raise concerns about the neutrality of stuff. If you have a personal dispute with someone, who can try to resolve it at dispute resolution, but as others said above, telling them to go to a phycotic ward is not an acceptable way of dealing with your differences. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I understand your shocked, but I concur with Bawolff. What exactly do you want me to do? Try to keep cool; I think it is clear what the final consensus on this matter will turn out to be... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Human remains found five years later at World Trade Center site

Please refrain from using words such as terrorism except under direct quotes, especially not when a less controversial alternative (such as militant) may be used. You may also want to see [3] and WN:NPOV. Thanks. PVJ^(Talk)_{(Articles I have written)} 10:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Get lost. --Daniel575 10:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

You have already made 3 reverts to this article. I suggest you stop before you violate WN:3RR. PVJ^(Talk)_{(Articles I have written)} 10:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

No Personal Attacks

Asking a user if he is on medications is a personal attack. You have already been warned about NPA before, if you violate policy again you are liable to be blocked. PVJ^(Talk)_{(Articles I have written)} 11:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I repeat, get lost. --Daniel575 12:15, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Please stop telling him to get lost. Try to keep your head. If you want to express your opinion, consider voting on his de-adminship.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

If you make me an admin first I will vote there. Only admins can edit that page. --Daniel575 14:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The page is semiprotected, you will be able to edit it starting Oct 24th. --Cspurrier 14:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Please be civil

Daniel575, however much you disagree with a contributors point of view, it is no reason to be uncivil. There is a large difference between having the editor express a strong unpopular opinion, and you attacking the editor personally. If you want your opinion heard, you will have to respect our policies not to disrupt Wikinews, our policy on Etiquette and something that we inherited from Wikipedia — that there is no excuse or justification for no excuse or justification for personal attacks. I am an editor who also strongly disagrees with PVJ's position; I will continue to disagree with him. I will apply our tools to make this point heard. But I will not call that editor names, or cross the line into abuse.

Please stop abusing the editor. We do not tolerate repeated behavior of that sort on Wikinews, regardless of points of view. -- IlyaHaykinson 13:32, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

How would you respond to calls for you and your entire country to be annihalated? Completely calm and rational of course, also when the person in question is a Wikinews administrator? --Daniel575 14:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Lots of people in the world believe in a lot of different things. The whole point of a pluralistic society is to have a system for allowing people to believe whatever they want to believe, but prevent disruption and violence. Whether it works in the real world or not, this pluralism is a key feature of the Wikimedia wikis, including Wikinews. The fact that this editor has made it clear that he holds very unorthodox and even inflammatory opinions is ok. However, violation of site policies or abuse of administrative tools will be dealt with according to our existing methods. The answer is not, however, to get really really personally upset at the user in a public way. If you want to be personally upset at the user, please do so over a private channel of communication. Here on the wiki, things have to be based on policy; if you don't agree with the above, you'll need to rally others to get the policy changed first. -- IlyaHaykinson 23:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

WN:ALERT-Warning

Please read WN:POINT. PVJ^(Talk)_{(Articles I have written)} 14:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

some more gratuitous advice

#5 Wikinews is not a theatre of war. please do ur utmost to interact politely with other users. resist the temptation to indulge in personal attacks and from escalating conflicts, they will almost invariably be counter-productive. if u have a disagreement with a user that prevents you from constructively collaborating, consider Wikinews:Dispute resolution.  — Doldrums(talk) 16:29, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand what you are talking about. I do not have any dispute with anyone here. --Daniel575 18:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

If you'll post something indicating that you will be more reasonable in how you try to go about obtaining your apology I will unblock you. It is a short block because you're a new contributor, but you have been blocked because this is the sole issue on the wiki you have shown any interest in. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Get lost. --Daniel575 21:42, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

What Brian and the other admins have been basically saying is, please be polite because it makes everything so much better for everyone, and as a result more work can get done. Plus, acting rude will give you a reputation and you won't be treated as well as a user who has earned trust (and as a result can become an administrator someday). If you start acting more civil, you will be welcomed by the community. That's a good thing. —this is messedrocker (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

As soon as PVJ59 loses his adminship, we can start working constructively. I cannot constructively participate in a place where admins call for the annihalation cq. destruction of my country. --Daniel575 23:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

You have been blocked for 3 hours for continuing to engage in incivililty and personal attacks despite being warned repeatedly. Please see to it that this sort of behaviour is not repeated. Thanks. PVJ^(Talk)_{(Articles I have written)} 13:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

You have now been blocked for 24 hours for persistently violating Wikinews policies on civility and personal attacks. Please refrain from asking that individual users and their countries be annihilated, terming Administrators who warn you as "anti-Semites" and being rude to other users. Thanks. PVJ^(Talk)_{(Articles I have written)} 03:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

You will be blocked again if you continue to harangue editors who have announced they are leaving the project. I count zero contributions from you in the main namespace on the Wiki, and POV warring is not welcome here. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 19:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, if I may jump in, on Brian's talk page, you said WN is POVed. We are NPOV in our articles, however on talk pages and user pages (example), we are allowed to be as POVed as we want, however not against other users. Thunderhead(talk) 18:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)