User talk:Green Giant

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Just a tip[edit]

Hi, Green Giant. Thanks for deleting that page when it was created the second time. Just a tip (I feel bad for saying that, since you have more experience than me), if a page is deleted for a second time, change protection level to autoconfirmed users. Something we have been (or at least I have been) doing lately.
•–• 21:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@Acagastya: Don’t feel bad about giving good advice. I just got waylaid by a Checkuser on that account, which revealed a nest of spam accounts. Whilst locking them, I got a notification about something else on Meta Wiki and then an email from work! 😊 -Green Giant (talk) 22:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

About the Myanmar military coup article[edit]

Sorry if I sound rather contemptful, you'll see why.

The issue with your deletion of the article ― which I played a prominent part in writing ― is that I received no notification to the deletion at all. None, zilch, nada. Now, there some responsibility that should be shouldered onto me, I ― probably ― should've had the talk page on my watchlist. But, you most certainly should have alerted me on my talk page, like User:Acagastya who politely alerted me and I then updated the article.

I have other words for Wikinews in general, like how it takes an eternity ― at least in the news world ― for an article to be reviewed. But, that's irrelevant to this subject. --Kirkworld (talk) 02:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kirkworld: sorry you feel that way about your article. Any article that you write, if it is abandoned, it is tagged as {{abandoned}}. If there are no significant changes, it is then deleted. An author needs to look at the article, and be alert about it. The discussion about the article, and its status will be on the article or its talk. We may occassionally inform the author if there is a problem that can be fixed, but this is a standard procedure. Re taking forever for article to be reviewed, Kirkworld, we are all volunteers here, with real life commitments too. Reviewers feel bad about losing an article, and it really sucks to lose the article like this. I hope you reconsider this with light that sometimes we lose the race against time, due to off-wiki real world commitments. I would say, how about you give one more try, pick something fresh, and write another article. If you do not mind using IRC, consider joining #wikinews or #wikinews-en, where reviewers and authors can have a real-time discussion about the potential problems and fixes for an article which helps for a speedy review.
•–• 02:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
@Kirkworld: I appreciate it can be frustrating to see work deleted but these are agreed procedures we have been using for years. If we did not use these procedures, we would probably see huge numbers of abandoned drafts. Unlike Wikipedia, we felt it was necessary to only keep the published articles and those that were still fresh. I am open to the idea of changing the parameters e.g. may be moving the "abandoned" procedure from four plus two days to five plus three days. This would need agreement by Wikinewsies. I’d also recommend changing the settings on your Preferences so that each page you edit is automatically placed in your watchlist. --Green Giant (talk) 00:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
I've long suspected the reason it's four days is so that it's sure to be solidly past the two-to-three-day horizon for freshness. --Pi zero (talk) 00:17, 21 February 2021 (UTC)