Wikinews talk:Comment Space

Maybe is Comments space and Neutral Point of View section we should add something like, we'd prefer comments are logically based, and rational to promote a more useful discussion. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

That might be helpful, but since pretty much everyone thinks that their comments are rational I'm not sure that will help much. I've no strong opinion on the matter. JoshuaZ 23:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

wmf

Should we ask the wmf for their opinion on this policy since it potentially deals with legal issues. (Seccondary question, does the wmf even officially recognize/approve/know about the comment ns). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It may make sense to ask the foundation. I am not a lawyer, but the legal language as written was based off of what Jimbo has said and what the policies that have been adopted by the English Wikipedia. I have no idea if the Foundation is aware that we've added comments space since I wasn't involved in the discussions about comments space. It may be a good idea to see what the wmf thinks of it, and also talk to some of the other wikinews projects who may want to consider adding comments spaces as well. JoshuaZ 23:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Spanish has already enabled comment space. If I remember, Eloquence once said long ago that such a comment space would need to be approved by board, due to its relation with npov, and that never happened (to my knowladge), however I assume they know about it as its been discussed on wikinews a lot, wikinews-l, wikizine, and we've made bug requests relating to it. I assume word that it happened must have eventually drifted to them.Bawolff ☺☻ 00:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, in that case we may want to ask someone on .es how they handle comments space (it might be good advice). My spanish isn't good enough to be the go between for that. If it's ok with people here I'll send Cary a note and see what he has to say (I doubt the foundation is going to say no). JoshuaZ 00:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I have taken the issue of comments page policy on foundation-l, as well as asking for Mike Godwin's input. We already have one edit from an infrequent Wikimedian who has put the whole thing succinctly in bold, Don't be a jerk. Works for me. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Consensus

So how close is this policy to achieving consensus? I haven't seen any objections but there hasn't been activity the last few days. JoshuaZ 02:08, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I think if nothing negative in a week, we could call it an official policy. As it stands, it is definitely aggred upon enough for proposed policy. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The only remaining issue then would appear to be how to rewrite the comments template to include this policy. There's a draft version at Template:Commentnew which could replace the old version of Template:Commentary. JoshuaZ 18:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks fine. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with the policy itself (though the "don't be a jerk" might be ambiguous especially across a wide range of cultures), but I do worry about our ability to enforce/maintain the policy. Who is going to be the "police"? Do I, as an admin, now have the responsibility to remove personal attacks and block the offender? What if the attack is not levied against another editor (or commenter) but rather against a person/group/company mentioned in the article? What happens if we miss a comment that violates the policy (people do comment on surprisingly old articles)? I guess we can move forward and if it becomes a real mess, we can remove the comments space altogether, like Yahoo! did with its discussion pages on news articles. --SVTCobra 01:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• Like many discussions on Wikinews this seems to have died off with no real conclusion - other than people accept how the Comments space has worked so far. There have been a handful of cases where comments have been removed or comments on something unrelated have been deleted - but most comments have been allowed to stand. So, I've removed the {{flag}} template - if anyone wants to make a significant addition or input on the discussion feel free to re-add it. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:01, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Rewrite

The position on the ground has changed considerably with practice. I'm gonna have a stab at a total rework to highlight the current highly permissive view to comments: namespace. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 11:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)