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I'm somewhat busy in real life, and as a result, it may take me until the weekend to respond. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks for your answer

Well relating to your answer, everything looks justified, well in that case i would like you to delete all the articles written under that name with other alias too. Thanks again for clarifying me. Syedatif (talk) 07:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Glad i could clear things up. I believe all your articles have already been deleted. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Confirmation of vote

This is a message to let you know that I've confirmed the vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sigma_7&diff=prev&oldid=268279448 --Sigma 7 (talk) 17:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Business Communications Manager

Hello. I noticed that you are active today. Since you are an administrator, could you please delete this non-news article? Thank you. -- ♪TempoDiValse♪  00:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Caught me just in time, I was just about to leave. :) - Its deleted now. Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Diamond Bar

YOU MAY WANNA CHECK RECENT CHANGES THIS GUY (Diamond Bar) IS GOING BALLISTIC (WITH CURSE WORDS) HELP ME PLEASE!!!!! Newser (talk) 05:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

CAN YOU HELP MAN THIS IS SERIOUS!!!??? Newser (talk) 05:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sandbox

Thank you for clearing the sandbox. SriMesh | talk 22:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] DPL for OR

I am trying to do a Wikimania 2009 presentation. I was wondering if you can make a DPL that would organize all the OR we have into tallies for each year...aka a DPL for 2004's OR, 2005's OR. I need a total count of OR articles from each year WN has been active, including this year. Is that possible? Let me know what if anything that can be done. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Not really possible with DPL. Probably doable with the api though. I'll look into it when i have the chance. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The following pages were not counted, as they are not in the main namespace:

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Hope that helps. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

WOW...thanks so much! Yes...I now have the slide done that I have been dreading. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] AbuseFilter

Update: Looks like it is working pretty well already at en.wikipedia - how much longer do you want to wait before reconsidering support? :P Cirt (talk) 11:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd prefer to wait a week or two to see if any major issues develop. However as long as we're not using it to autoblock people, I don't have strong opinions. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Waiting a week certainly sounds reasonable. Cirt (talk) 05:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re:infoboxes

Thanks man, these are perfect! And as you can see, I'm already putting them to use! lol. Thanks again! Hunter Kahn (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Glad to be of assistance. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Pennsylvania lost 41,000 jobs in February, a 13-year high

Thanks, I responded! Hunter Kahn (talk) 13:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] User:Tempodivalse/Writing contest

Hi! I'm sending out this message to all our active contributors. Just wanted to let you know that the writing competition discussed at the water cooler has now been started. The deadline for registration is March 31st, in case you wanted to join. Thanks. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 18:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite, but, as you may or may not have noticed, I don't actually do all that much constructive things around here, so i probably won't join. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re:infoboxes

Thanks for letting me know, I fixed it. — Hunter Kahn (contribs) 05:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WN:RFA

Hi! I've nominated you for bureaucratship. Please indicate whether you accept the nomination at the nomination page. Thanks, tempodivalse 17:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] MediaWiki

I 'm so Thanks for the answer! You help me a lot!

Smile.png Vitorbraziledit talk 15:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Glad i could help. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Help Search, Templates and {{TalkBack}}

Hiya. I've been sent your way to ask if there's an equivalent, in wikinews, to wikipedia's {{talkback}} template. Would you know? Also, and I may be impatient or unobservant, I couldn't see a list of templates in wikinews, nor a Help Search facility? Best regards, Trafford09 (talk) 13:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Responded on users talk. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:27, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RfB

I, Brian, acting upon the advice and consent of the Cable of Wikinews Incorporated hereby promote you to the rank of bureaucrat of the Wiki! Congard!! Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:36, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

So, do i get a nicer car? :P. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
As a member Wikinews Cable Inc you receive access to our Learjet, to jet to the scene of breaking news :) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 11:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Also thank you to everyone who voted for me. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! Cirt (talk) 02:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Ditto. Smile.png tempodivalse 02:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Your user page

I've indef semi'd it, along with a move protection, because I think it's been defaced too often by vandals. Hope you don't mind. (If you don't want the page to be protected, just revert me.) tempodivalse 13:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

yep, thats fine - thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:20, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Aurora Borealis caused by electrical space tornadoes

Thank you for your comment and observation, and it did improve the article. This has been resolved now I think.SriMesh | talk 18:22, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re templates e.g. talkback

Hiya. Thx for your info. re the templates. Trafford09 (talk) 10:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Water cooler

Can you answer me here?

Thanks! Vitorbraziledit talk 03:05, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Transclusions at the wc

No problem, I'm fine with it. Now that the wc has been archived, it's much easier to load the page. Thanks for all the archiving. Smile.png Tempodivalse [talk] 22:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

yeah, it can really get long when the archiving gets behind. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikinewsie wiki

Skinning the Wiki. If we want to do a quick and dirty import of a skin/CSS to differentiate the wiki from Wikinewsie, what would be the fastest way to do this?

P.S. you're now sysop/bureaucrat on the wiki and may have to handle user requests as I've disabled account creation for non-sysops. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

cool! - As for skin, the current thing looks fine to me. (other options is basically steal from meta:Wikinews design contest) Bawolff ☺☻ 23:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Current bookjive would be better if the namespace descriptions were properly shown at the top of the page. The other big headache I have is that I've secured it so anons can only access a whitelisted set of pages (like main_page and special:userlogin). I'd like to whitelist an entire namespace - "Public:". I see this as a way to replace the never completed reporter profiles on the wikinewsie main page and - hopefully - embarass people into filling something out. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Hmm. What do you mean by namespace descriptions? for per namespace restrictions - mw:Extension:NamespacePermissions or mw:Extension:Lockdown might be what your looking for. The other way you could go about doing it is to have some sort of bot look at the specific pages in the namespace in question, and copy them to plain html files somewhere else in the server at regural intervals. That would bypass mediawiki entirely, which doesn't seem to be exactly designed with security in mind (based on all the warnings). (but otoh its ugly and more complicated) Bawolff ☺☻ 01:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Social bookmarking of Wikinews articles

I'm looking at this and thinking we could do virtually all of it without an extension. Most of the bookmarking links could be built in wikicode and I'd guess you can do something with the site .js/.css to suppress the external link graphic and make the bookmark page open in a new window/tab. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Yep most definitly do-able. responded more fully on the water cooler. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:57, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I think we're down to the last step - which is to get the popup working reliably. I disagree with DragonFire1024 on 'new tab' as, at least for facebook, the popup will auto close when you've used it.
Added a comment about using a name other than "_blank" for the window name - I had problems and suspect this was the cause, see discussion for comments.
I really want to get this on {{publish}} in the next couple of days. I think having it on old articles is worthwhile; I've often seen on the BBC's list of 'most shared' older news that is tangentially related to current stuff. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't think _blank is the issue- more that originally it was only enabled on the template page. it should work everywhere now. See my comment on the water cooler. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Open_in_a_new_window

Please see my comment, but really all it is that Twitter will automatically shorten the URLs. See http://twitter.com/calebrw/status/2005403861 Calebrw (talk) 02:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] H1N1 article

Thank you :) --Kattekrab (talk) 07:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Bombing of Peshawar Pearl Continental kills 11

I'm sorry you don't feel for those poor dead folks and their families. To say that this horrible tragic event is meaningless and unimportant is WRONG. It sickens me that you would make comments like that.

I'll take that under consideration. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Template_talk:Howdy#MediaWiki:Welcomecreation

Please see Template_talk:Howdy#MediaWiki:Welcomecreation. Your input on some CSS is requested. Calebrw (talk) 23:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Template_talk:Popular_articles#Discrepency_between_FF_and_Safari.2FIE

Please take a look at Template_talk:Popular_articles#Discrepency_between_FF_and_Safari.2FIE. Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 23:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Norwegian military security agency accused of conducting illegal surveillance of PM

It'd appear [1] shoved it to the top of new stories. Any ideas why? Computerjoe's talk 22:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

[responding on computerJoe's talk page]. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Replies there. Computerjoe's talk 17:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] from Computerjoe's talk

[edit] Norweigian article going to top of dpl's

This is due to how DPL's work. DPL orders things by the date that {{publish}} was added to the article (it ignores the date in {{date}} in all but a few specialized pages. Things like template:Latest news being the exception). The vandal removed the publish template, in essence depublishing it. When i reverted the vandal this re-added {{publish}}. The dpl treats this as me republishing the article, and uses the date that i reverted the vandal as the date the article was published instead of the original publish date. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

This is sub-optimal. Any way the DPL can look at sighted revisions only? --SVTCobra 23:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
[repeating what I said on irc in case someone else is reading this and is curious] In short I have no idea. Currently I believe dpl looks at the category links table which is basically a table of the page (number) the category it links to, and the date the category link was made. I don't know if there is some equivelent way of doing it for sighted revs (If i was to geuss, i'd say probably not efficiently, but it'd be a question to ask the devs). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Who would fix this? Computerjoe's talk 21:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
a dev. i don't know which one though. Generally we file a bug and hope it gets fixed. from what i understand flagged revs doesn't really keep track of categories, so i don't know if such a fix is likely (OTOH i am not a dev, and do not really know how these things work, so i most definitly could be wrong on that point).As an alternativive, perhaps it might be possible to sort based on day first sighted or something. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] BOT-Superzerocool

Hi, thanks you by the good news :). I have a question: How I make my bot update interwikies in locked pages?. Currently my bot doesn't update the interwikies in old pages because there are protected and -obviously- my bot doesn't has the sysop right. In es.wikinews we have a special permission "editor de prensa", which had rights to edit these pages. Do you have some idea? Superzerocool (talk) 02:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

No, unfortunately we have no such user group (we have Wikinews:Editor but they can't edit locked pages). Only sysops are able to edit archived pages. Tempodivalse [talk] 03:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
It was suggested on the water cooler at one point, but was not implemented due to lack of interest. If there is interest in it, it is my understanding that with community concencuss its just a bugzilla request away. Currently we just make such bots sysOps. (Put a request on WN:RFP under the normal request for admin rights section. bear in mind however, just because it would be useful for an interwiki bot to have the flag doesn't mean it will automatically get it. In the past the community has been a little touchy about interwiki bots, so no guarantees such a request would be successful, but thats the way to go about getting your bot sysop flagged. In any case it doesn't hurt to try.). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I will consider do a request in WN:RFP to my bot. :)... Superzerocool (talk) 05:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bot discussion

As someone listed as having an active bot I would like to draw your attention to the following issue. This may not affect you unless your bot edits sighted pages - eg in the Template namespace - but as a bot operator your input is likely to be better informed. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Google news problem

Hi, I noticed that DRAFT copies of articles are also finding their way into google.com results (before they've been properly vetted) and hence mirror sites may use defective copy if they scour this content (eg may be a copypaste). I can't see a way of adding this comment to the water cooler, so I'll post it here. Please feel free to copy this text elsewhere as appropriate or point others here:

I run an Apache web server and (fwiw) I have a few lines of defence against this sort of thing:

Hope this is of use. Esowteric | Talk 09:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I have moved the copy of this comment that was on the water cooler talk into the existing discussion on the technical section. I see no evidence to back up the assertion that Google News is indexing unpublished main namespace articles. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Commments

I have posted a question there. Thanks. Calebrw (talk) 18:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review

Bawolff,

Would you mind doing a peer review for an article I've just written? The link is below.

Link: Scandal erupts after U.S. President Barack Obama fires Inspector General Gerald Walpin

Thanks! --WNewsReporter (talk) 06:59, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Someone has already reviewed it before i read this. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Ticker

Hi Bawolff-I think I'm right in saying you're the guy to talk to re. the ticker. On my userpage, I would like it all to be white so it shows up properly-any chance you can tell me how to do that? It's really cool by the way, well done! Cheers! Dottydotdot (talk) 17:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Responded on user's talk page. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

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Notice of Appreciation

The irony of giving you your own barnstar! Thanks for doing that for me! Dottydotdot (talk) 20:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


lol, your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻

[edit] Wikinews interviews former Republican U.S. Senator Bob Smith on his latest run for office

Bawolff,

Would you mind doing a peer review for the article above?

Thanks. --WNewsReporter (talk) 05:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] DPL parameter checking

Hello Bawolff,
I noticed that you corrected the DPL parameter error I found. I installed a complete copy of enwikinews on my local PC and tried the migration from old DPL to the latest DPL version. This helped me to find some errors in the current use of old DPL. For instance the "orcer=" problem affects also the UK template. As you have looked after the US template I would appreciate if you could care for the others as well. (most of the templates are protected so I can't do it myself).

My general feeling is that the new version is just as fast as the old one - but this should better be checked by a person who looks after the current installation of enwikinews. The sources of the new version are already in the "extensions" directory of the server (as they are in the mediawiki subversion system). So the only thing that is needed would be to include in 'LocalSettings.php' the following lines:

  1. require_once( "$IP/extensions/DynamicPageList/DynamicPageList.php" ); // to be activated later
 require_once( "$IP/extensions/DynamicPageList/DynamicPageListMigration.php" );
 ExtDynamicPageList::setFunctionalRichness(2);   // my suggestion for the beginning
 ExtDynamicPageList::$maxResultCount = 500;      // this is also the default, it can be adjusted as needed; of course
                                                 // the DPL statements themselves will normally use a much smaller limit
 ExtDynamicPageList::$respectParserCache = true; // default is false, but for a frequently used site 'true' is better
                                                 // results will only be calculated once per day or on explicit demand

With these settings the new DPL version will be installed in __parallel__ to the existing old one. By changing the 'DynamicPageList' tag in a page __temporarily__ to 'Intersection' you can try out the new version on a per-page base. So you do not create big trouble if something goes wrong. Note: the 'DynamicPageList' tag should be changed to 'intersection' and then only the PREVIEW function of Mediawiki should be used. The page itself should not be modified.

Once a couple of pages have passed this test the migration can be completed by switching to the normal 'require_once' statement (which in the first step was commented out). The 'require_once( .. migration ..) is no longer needed and must be deleted or commented out. The require_once( .. intersection ..) for the old version must also be deleted or commented out. All this (and much more) is extensively described in the documentation of the new DPL.

If I can be of any help let me know.

Algorithmix (talk) 07:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Non-wiped hard drives carry U.S. defence contract information in electronic waste sent to Africa to be recycled

Changed as per your feed back on the talk page. Cannot go further with the computer scientist quote, as I am not a computer scientist myself, but if there is one on WN, maybe they can add more regarding your concern. I have to stay within the data presented in the news articles myself. SriMesh | talk 05:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks better now. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Review

I don't want to review my own edits, which are unfortunately interspersed with others that are in need of review here. In light of the comments on both its talk and comments pages, and the current viewing statistics for it, the stable version of this article is in need of update sooner rather than later, I suspect. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 05:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks like Calebrw has reviewed it. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal

What's the protocol for a user like this-Special:Contributions/Hotuyl? Dotty••|☎ 11:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] About Me Section

What do you think about this-Talk:Main_Page#near_the_bottom? Cheers!    Dotty••   07:37, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for answering & reverting the vandalism on my page. How sad.    Dotty••   08:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] re-flag option just added to newsroom

Is there some way for this to automatically pull up the review for the listed page? I flagged an old version of an article to try it, it comes up with the dialogue where you have to enter the article name.

Of course... You may still be working on this. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Ticker

Hello, I'm an admin on French Wikinews and I want to update the ticker on the French Main Page. I imported the necessary content (I think) but the French template Ticker has a problem; the news are on another line. Could you help me find the problem plz? I don't find the bug Template:=(. Thank you, --Sniff (talk) 23:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC) You can respond here if you want.

There's a missing } in fr:mediawiki:Common.css. I responded in more detail on your fr talk page. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:20, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
OMG! It's only this minor error Template:O o ... Thank you for the help, this template will be a Template:+ for my new Main Page Smile.png --Sniff (talk) 02:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, it always seems to be the tiny errors that are the hardest to find. Good luck with your main page re-design. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Bawolff, you resolved the big problem that I had for the new Main page, it is almost ready now Template:;) Bests regards, --Sniff (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Glad to be able to help. Let me know if there's anything else i can do. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js

Can you please add instructions, at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js? Thank you, Cirt (talk) 01:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Its not really done, and might not work, but instructions have been added. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:28, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I think all you have to do is save importScript('MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js') to your own Monobook page like any other. --SVTCobra 01:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I've turned it into a gadget, as it should mostly work at this point. Just click it in special:Preferences. I'd appreciate any feedback. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Seems to have some errors and isn't really working for me, reports of an edit conflict when there is none. Cirt (talk) 04:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Also got this message:

A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: [object Error] <undefined:undefined>

Not sure what all that is about... :P Cirt (talk) 04:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Out of curiosity, what web browser are you using? I should stress this has not been tested at all yet, and as such, such errors and issues have not been worked out yet. (btw, the error in question indicates that something bad happened during a request to the wikinews api. Its a problem with the script. Don't actually report it to the water cooler.) Bawolff ☺☻ 06:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
The specific problem you mentioned seemed to be cause by internet explorer not supporting the hasAttribute method of xml dom elements. (This same issue was also present in the code that determines if the opinion namespace tab should be red or blue). That specific issue should be fixed, however it is quite possible there are others (in fact i would be very suprised if there were not other issues)

Not sure what browser the above error was in - but I just tried again in Firefox and it seems to have worked for adding the review to the talk page - but did not do the other steps. Got the same edit conflict javascript message pop up, and also this:

A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: TypeError: page is undefined <253:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript?230z>

Cirt (talk) 20:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i think i got that one, however there are undoubtedly still other issues. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Again, just reviewed one - it still allows me to post the review to the talk page, but the script does not do any other steps, and still gives an "edit conflict" message. Also it gives this error message at the end:

A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: TypeError: page is undefined <253:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript?233xz>

Cirt (talk) 22:55, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm i think your using a cached version of the script, since i fixed the problem with page being undefined, and line 253 is now a comment, so there shouldn't be any errors on that line. (however the detecting of an edit conflict is probably an issue still at large should be fixed). Try doing a hard refresh sometime before the next time you use it. Thanks for all the feedback, I really appreciate it. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your work on this very useful tool. Cirt (talk) 23:20, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving script

Could you make a script for admins to archive articles? It would give an option to full-protect indef the article, and then add {{archived}} below the {{publish}} tag. Thoughts? Cirt (talk) 04:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I definitly think such a script would be a good idea. Not sure when i will get a chance to do it though, as I'm going to be away again starting next week. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
On French Wikinews, the admin Grondin has a bot (GrondinBot) to archive and protect the published articles after one week. Best regards, --Sniff (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
This would not be a bot, but rather a semi-automated script, to make it easier for individual people to do. Cirt (talk) 20:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't make it "too easy". Articles still need to be looked over. I am still finding spelling errors, etc. when I archive. --SVTCobra 05:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
A script could however potentially reduce the number of clicks required to the tasks that cannot be automated. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:12, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] re: Easy peer review

Yes, it worked well. Thanks very much! Cirt (talk) 10:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Fxmastermind (talk) 16:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Rename request

Could you please rename my account to Christianrocker90 as part of my Global rename?-- † CM16 t c 21:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Actually Wikinews:Changing username is the proper venue for this, but I don't think it makes much difference. Tempodivalse [talk] 21:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Idin' know that existed or I would have done it there.-- † CR90 (talk) 22:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Easy peer review feedback

Hi Bawolff. Just wanted to let you know I've tried your easy peer review widget for the first time today, and I have to say it's excellent. It's much more efficient than manually pasting all the templates and sighting the page. seems to be pretty much bug-free as far as I could tell, i.e. it added all the templates in the correct locations and the dialog box looked good. Thanks for creating such a useful gadget. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 14:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Seconded. Just one comment: it doesn't seem to recognize the {{breaking review}} template. –Juliancolton | Talk 14:21, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Thirded-just tried it, very useful! Should they be defaulted to pass?    Tris   16:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Although, it didn't seem to sight that one? Hmmm...I'll check.    Tris   16:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Just got this-A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: badtoken: Invalid token <undefined:undefined> although it seemed to work alright?    Tris   22:57, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
I fixed the issues with breaking review, and various source templates not being recognized (may need to do a hard refresh). The sighting penultimate revision should not happen (It fallsback to the penultimate revision if it can't figure out the current revision) and i'm not sure why thats happening at the moment.I'm also not sure what Tris's issue with having a badtoken is about (however if it has a bad token it should not be able to edit anything at all) - which browser were you using when that happened? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I think i figured out why its sighting the wrong revision, but havn't fixed it yet. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
It should sight the correct revision now. You may have to do a hard refresh to get the changes. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it defaults to fail. Cirt (talk) 17:50, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
What was the error? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I can't remember now, but it had to do something with API. Tempodivalse [talk] 22:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Nevermind i found it (assuming it was a 'syncerror'). Its not my fault. I've filled bugzilla:20705. Manually sight articles until its fixed. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Aaron fixed it. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Tempodivalse [talk] 02:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
FYI, I noticed you put the "Make a Lead" thing in to EzPR. I pop'd up a bit saying something like "do you want to make this a lead" but before I could do anything it rolled over to an error message: --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 21:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: unknownerror: Unknown error:  ``$1 <233:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript>
Thats an error message directly from the api. Since i'm not getting it on my browser, probably means there is a bug somewhere in js sending wrong info in some circumstance. Not sure what cause is as of yet. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:51, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Science and technology output query

Quick query - do you know how to make a page Wikinews:Wikinews Importer Bot/Science and technology Today-1, modeled after Wikinews:Wikinews Importer Bot/Today-1, to only output articles that are included in Category:Science and technology? Cirt (talk) 00:20, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I have fiddled with it to try to use DPL so we don't have to use a bot for it, but it looks like it is not working properly yet to display the articles. Cirt (talk) 12:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I tried going back that many days in show preview, but there was still zero output for articles listed. Perhaps you could try fiddling with the code for the page? Cirt (talk) 18:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

This barnstar is in appreciation of your excellent Easy Peer-Review widget. Thanks much! Smile.png Tempodivalse [talk] 18:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. I will proudly display this on my userpage. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I just want to say that I second this barnstar. Just tried it out and it worked great. Calebrw (talk) 03:49, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Need for javascript trickery

Please see Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#New_users_unaware_of_rules, particularly the subsection containing proposed changes to Common.js. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:47, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] All hail the mighty JS master

I need your help. I'm trying to make MediaWiki:Gadget-UserMessages.js work here on Wikinews. I never leave talk page messages and it's bad form... but my excuse is that Wikinews has different template names that I always forget.... Anyways. I stole it directly from Commons:MediaWiki:Gadget-UserMessages.js. I changed it to be only 2 test templates instead of the 33 they have... but it doesn't work. The toolbox entries are inserted when on a user talk page, if you click them they prompt (or not) properly. But when they reload the page into edit mode, nothing happens. Specifically there is no edit summary, new text in the page nor does it save. I assume there is _something_ missing, but I don't know JS well enough. Thanks! --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 23:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

looking. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:47, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
should be fixed now. I must say I'm not a fan of commons' style of editing via fake url parameters. seems boderline almost xss to me. (Imagine if someone started spamming/tricking people into clicking the following link . (Or worse if the page name is a protected page like the main page and the target is an admin.) It would create a major mess. Of course the risk is limited since everything can be reverted, and only people who purposefully enable the gadget will have it enabled, but still, kind of scary). Bawolff ☺☻ 02:20, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering where the hell the links to insert these templates with the gadget were, the toolbox seems rather inconvenient and out of the way. Is it possible to add them to the dropdown list of options on vector? Not as a full list of all the possible templates, but as "Add default notification template>" leading to a sub-menu of all the available templates. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I agree, that would be better. Another alternative i was also thinking of was having a section under the toolbox called notify or something (but i like the idea of putting it in the action menu more). The current system of 10 million links in the toolbar is rather ugly. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Which leads me to ask... On a talk page there's an "Add comment" option. Can this be used? Ideally, if you've not selected the gadget it is exactly as currently with vector. If you've added the gadget it displays a list of options when you hover over it. The type of templates it would offer then depending on the type of talk page (article, user, etc). The thing to then deal with is maintenance of the lists of templates (special pages in I-don't-know-what namespace), and have the user shown a description of the template instead of just assuming you know what it is from the template name. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Do you mean have a drop down arrow from the add comment tab, with various templates? Bawolff ☺☻ 14:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes. If no gadget, no dropdown. With gadget, "Add Comment" still works as normal if you click it, but a dropdown displays when you put the mouse over it. Then the list of templates is from an editable page per talk namespace with "template name" and some sort of "description" to better know what clicking on it will produce. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:07, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
That sounds rather cool. I'll try to look into how to make that work sometime soon. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:09, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Assuming you get something like that working and tweaked a bit here, I'd make an effort to bring it to the attention of the usability group - they may see some way to make doing things like this easier with Vector. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I've got an initial version of it working. Add var useFancyVectorDropdown = true; to special:mypage/vector.js to make it work (I've already done that for brianmc). It could probably made better so that the dropdown arrow looks more like its attached to edit section. (the gadget in generally could probably made better if it edited using ajax instead of reloading the page). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:06, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Ticker

Hi. I was wondering how could I use {{Ticker|speed=1.3}} on my en.wiki page. Thanks, Gulmammad (talk) 02:05, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

This would require importing the javascript to en wikipedia. This requires permission of an administrator on the english wikipedia. Also note that this would only work with static lists on 'pedia, since DPL is not installed (However you could probably use wikinews headlines via the importer bot)_. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:20, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the explanation. Seems to be not as easy as I thought it would. Gulmammad (talk) 07:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] *Whimpers*

Why are the comments tabs now completely gone? Is this another vector bug? Gopher65talk 02:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

You don't see them? That's strange, they work for me. Did you try doing a hard refresh/purge your cache? Tempodivalse [talk] 02:49, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Works for me. I'd say also do a hard refresh. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 03:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
It was another bug. (not so much a bug, as vector fixing the old bug that we were working arround, and changing one of the ids on the div containing the navigation tabs). I made modificatons to the js sometime yesterday, so they should work if you do a hard refresh. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:40, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:Statistics

Hi, I've added Category:Statistical templates inside of the Template:Statistics. BTW, new MediaWiki update broke Pywikipediabot and some fixes were needed... --millosh (talk) 23:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. yeah, i've heard about the bot breakage. Wikinews importer bot also broke. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:38, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] User:Bawolff/sandbox/makeLead - kicks pages off my watchlist?

How come when I use User:Bawolff/sandbox/makeLead, it kicks the lede subpages I just edited off of my watchlist? Cirt (talk) 15:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thats interesting. It should not do that. I'll look into that. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
It's still doin it. :P Cirt (talk) 18:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wiktionary lookup tool

Working on a project requested by an fr.wikinews contributor... Xe was asking if it were possible to add a "word lookup" function so people visiting fr.wn (they get a lot of French-as-a-second-language students) could quickly and easily look up unfamiliar terms in wiktionary. The first beta version can be seen at my monobook.js, and it seems to work. There's some more functionality to add - like a 'hover' effect - but I'd like to hear your feedback as the resident guru. - Amgine | t 00:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC) Looks pretty good. I'll be honest, I've never actually used the javascript range api for anything, so I'm not all that familiar with that part of the script, but heres some general feedback:

Bawolff ☺☻ 18:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Issue: How to set up gadget in common.js for fr.wn? Lotsa requests about this 24+ hours ago (was gone/busy most of today) - Amgine | t 02:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Language xslt

As soon as you have any other xslt ready, I can try to get them set up on the various wiktionaries. I have contacts and/or requests for support for:

Wiktionaries/Languages I'm attempting to contact are:

OK. Unfortunatly this week i'm very busy, and probably won't have very much time to work on this. French translation should now be working (try doing a hard refresh, and then go to some page with ?uselang=fr on the end, double click on stuff, and the definition should be in french. (I forgot to translate the could not find page text though...). Bawolff ☺☻ 10:32, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Whee. Guess what was in pm today? someone wondering if there's going to be a version of this tool for Wordpress. I have no clue how doable that is, but I said you'd mentioned it once in passing and I'd ask you about it. So, is it possible to do this as a tool for Wordpress (or any other blogging software?) - Amgine | t 01:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

yes, it is possible. What i'd need to do is copy some of the support functions from wikibits.js into some other js file, and then have wordpress load the script. However the script loading aspect brings up an important question. There are two ways of doing that:

Bawolff ☺☻ 02:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Just asked in IRC:
[1:50pm] Amgine: Question: There's a request to make the wikitionary lookup javascript gadget available for bloggers. The developer wants 
wants to know if devs would oppose hotlinking the script on en.wikinews, which would allow ongoing control/development of the
script?
[1:53pm] Platonides: I don't think there would be a problem
[1:53pm] Platonides: what url is it?
[1:53pm] Amgine: Well, the current script is at http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-dictionaryLookupHover.js
[1:54pm] Amgine: But it's missing a bunch of the wikibits, so it would need to be modified for bloggers.
[1:54pm] Platonides: right, it would need to be modified
[1:56pm] Amgine: Can I post this to the dev?
[1:57pm] Platonides: i'm no sysadmin authority 
[1:58pm] Amgine: <grin> No, I just meant can I log your comments in IRC.
[1:59pm] Platonides: well, if you're asking for permission to repeat that I don't think there would be a problem, you can\
[1:59pm] Platonides: it's probably not too useful...
- Amgine | t 21:00, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Cool :). Bawolff ☺☻ 16:34, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Even cooler! http://identi.ca/notice/12399668 - Amgine | t 15:22, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Good good (now all i have to do is actually do this ;). Bawolff ☺☻ 16:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

NL Wikt is now ready to be enabled in the script. I'm also adding a table below to show xslt creation, on wiktionary, and script enabled. - Amgine | t 20:50, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Languages available

  il8n xslt on wikt enabled
Deutsch X      
English X X X X
Français X X X X
Nederlands X X X X
Norsk (bokmål)‬        

[edit] Language pokes

DE is translated. DE.wikt admins are ready to add xslt to the site as soon as it's available. - Amgine | t 20:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Its enabled. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Forgot to mention this

TestPilot (developer of WikiLook for FF) had some suggestions for code, ideas over at the grease pit (WC:Technical on Wiktionary) - Amgine | t 23:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] {{money}}

There's something odd with the {{money}} template. See the template talk page for a couple of odd examples. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:37, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

A 'nit' with a lot of the templates you set up is that it would be really nice to see them documented using the {{documentation}} template. This sorts out a lot of issues with categories for the template as interwiki and template categorisation is on the sub-page where it can be left unprotected, or only semi-protected. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:57, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Bawolff ☺☻ 19:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] User talk messages gadget

What about welcoming an IP, and/or welcoming someone that posted on a comments page? Cirt (talk) 16:46, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Which templates would you like me to add. I know we have {{howdy-anon}}. Do we have any for welcoming someone who posted on comments? Bawolff ☺☻ 17:08, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I think just these. Cirt (talk) 18:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. May need to do a hard refresh. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:17, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I was CC'd on the various comments WRT our default skin change on how Vector is to be improved, there was something about 'collapsing' page tabs - I assumed into the same drop-down as we've added Review. How hard would it be to add another item to that - "User messages...>", hover at it for a drop-down of available templates (but more descriptively than is currently done in the sidebar), and even have a mechanism to enter a parameter to enter when subst-ing the template somewhere? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:26, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Let's call it the WalMartGreeterGadget. :-P --Brian McNeil / talk 15:27, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I was cc'ed on the bug too. I'd have to see the actual new changes in vector to know. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I also like how you've integrated it into the Vector tabs. Not quite what I'd ideally like, I want this as a single item on the Vector-standard dropdown, which displays a sub-menu containing the template list when you hover over it.

There's also what I consider a bug, but a minor bug. If you go to a user talk page that does not exist, the drop-down to access messages is not offered.

I think, if you implement the above couple of points, you would have an excellent demonstration for the usability group that this feature should be built right into Vector - and a working demo probably explains better than trying to get an idea across. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Its possible to make it work off a mediawiki page. The problem is that than one would have to download said mediawiki page, which introduces unnessary overhead (This is only since we're doing all this on the client-side. If this was an actual feature of mediawiki, this would all be done on the server-side, and thus there wouldn't be the extra unnessary ajax request to get the mediawiki page describing the templates). The script itself is somewhat a mess (it was stolen from commons, and from the comments, the script at commons was stolen from another script), and theres quite a few aspects of it i don't like. In paticular there is a ton of duplicated (not to mention messy) code, and it could be used in various nefarious ways. (for example to trick an admin into vandalizing a protected page. Somewhere in my talk page there is an example of such a link. The script now only works in user talk namespace, but earlier it could of caused people to edit things like the main page. Ideally this would not use a url to edit.) I'm aware of the bug with non-exisitant talk pages - basically i havn't got arround to fixing it (The issue is a result of the script failing to find the add comment tab). The options are still there, but they are placed below the toolbox. I was looking at putting it as a sub-menu, which should be possible, it would just take more work. The putting it as an additional drop down didn't take very much work because it re-uses all the stuff from the standard drop-down. As for the terse descriptions, I didn't write them, but i think that was a result of people not wanting the drop-down to be too wide. All of them should have tooltips Bawolff ☺☻ 14:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Make Lead to 6

It's been previously discussed and wanted to have the main page basically "all leads". Well now that we've got an easy lead switcher (Thanks you to and WN:ML), I figure it's about time to implement that. So can you bump Make Lead to include {{Lead article 5}} & {{Lead article 6}}? They will become the new bottom left and right respectively. Once you add them to make lead, I'll put them onto the Main Page and do some other re-arranges. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 18:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment: More leads is one thing, but I like having the list of the articles on the Main Page, in addition to the leads. Cirt (talk) 18:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Another Comment:Seconded-I also like Tempodivalse's design a bit more-User:Tempodivalse/mainpage, with the better categories at the top & the removal of the stocks section. It has more leads, but retains two main ones, which I think is a good thing. Maybe we should have a discussion before a change?(although I'm pretty sure there have been some before I came!). We could just do it all on Bawolff's talk as well!    Tris   18:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Nah, I'd be more for just added two more leads, 5 and 6, of equal size, below, instead of squeezing smaller ones. Cirt (talk) 18:44, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
List of recent news stays. I'm stealing design elements of Tempo's, but not doing the "main leads" versus "sub leads" thing, basically sticking with what we got now but 6 instead of 4. The main thing we have to keep in mind is user screen size. Tempo's page works great on my 1680x1050 screen, but reduce it back down to 1024x768 and the word "Smooshed" comes to mind. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 18:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Okey dokey, sounds fair nuff! How about the cats at the top & the stocks bit?    Tris   18:52, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Come fight it out on my talk page, leave poor bawolff alone. Oh, and I've got my prototype under construction. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 18:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
From last comment by ShakataGaNai, sounds perfect. :) Cirt (talk) 18:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, see this post i made on the proposals water cooler - might be best to direct all discussion over there to keep it centralised. Cheers. Tempodivalse [talk] 19:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

OOI is there a JS tool for archiving or not?    Tris   17:00, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, there isn't any. Some people use auto-wiki browser to assist with arciving though. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:49, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks anon vs welcome anon

I went to add welcome anon, but it gave thanks anon instead! :( Cirt (talk) 20:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. That was probably my fault. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Swap to new system?

Some point in time can we swap to the new lead system so we can rotate the new main page into place? Do you have time in the near future where we can coordinate/do this? Thx. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 05:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe on the weekend. This week is going to be very busy for me. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Review

Please review Leader of Indian BJP party visits Navi Mumbai to support candidates for general election. Thank you, Srinivas 05:10, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Feature "Would be nice" (AKA Request)

For WN:ML, on the recent published list, if it could color the stories in use as leads slightly differently from the rest. Though it really is a "would be nice", other features like dealing with {{breaking}} and {{original}} are much more important on the request scale. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 21:43, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Indian portal

I am very sorry. I didn't know that. Previously the article which is in No publish was present under Developing Stories but that is not the right place. So do you think the source below Developing stories must be changed from:

<DynamicPageList>
category=India
notcategory=Published
addfirstcategorydate=true
namespace=0
count=10
suppresserrors=true
</DynamicPageList>

to

<DynamicPageList>
category=India
notcategory=Published
notcategory=No publish
addfirstcategorydate=true
namespace=0
count=10
suppresserrors=true
</DynamicPageList>

??? Anyhows, you have a good signature. Srinivas 06:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that sounds good. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WN:ML Bug

Bawolff: Please see Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Bug_Oct._13.2C_2009. Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE: {{image source}}

Thanks a lot again. Flagged revs really helps to get our mistakes sorted out. It is not so on enWP. No one warns us if we made a mistake except for vandalisms. Once we get whitelisted, no one warns us of our mistakes. Thus I support for flagged revs on enWiki. What more, your user page has helped me! I found out the link to this template from your user page: {{Editintro from wikipedia}}. Thanks a lot, Srinivas 07:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad you found the template useful. (I have no idea how you managed to find that from my userpage... or really anything from my userpage, its a bit of a mess). Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] EzReview gadget

Would it be possible to update the gadget to have a third option - "NOT CHECKED" with the user allowed to specify a comment if they select it? There are regularly articles can be failed on one or two points without going to the effort of a full review. So, this would be useful in more quickly highlighting failures on just one or two points. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I was actually contemplating that a while ago, but never really did it. Should be do-able. {{peer reviewed}} would have to modified so it recognizes n/a or something similiar to mean not reviewed. I'll put it on my list of things to look into. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:33, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
First step done. A fail with a comment of n/a will be rendered differently by the template. (however thats far from done, as it will still put the fix this stuff tag on the actual article) Bawolff ☺☻ 19:12, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
It could be (or perhaps for people who are autoconfirmed?). However i think it'd make more sense to link from the talk page of the Main page. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done ShakataGaNai did it. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:25, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of the Year 2009

Is there going to be a Wikinews Picture of the Year 2009? --Rayboy8 (talk) 22:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Good question. Basically if someone wants to organize it (preferably that someone not being me ;)), theres no reason not to have it. Would you be up to the challange of organizing it? Basically all that needs to be done is go through {{News in pictures}} (be wary though, the archives don't have all the photos that were there so use the history), and ask arround on irc if anyone has any other photos they want to include. (just basically copy what happened last year on Wikinews:Picture of the Year, but make the eligability to vote rules much simpler as they were much too complicated last year ). Cheers Bawolff ☺☻ 00:49, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I could help volunteer to set up a POTY if needed - but isn't it a bit early for this at the moment? It's only mid-October. I'd think we should wait at least until December until setting it up. (We held it in January-February last time, IIRC.) Tempodivalse [talk] 01:02, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Yea, it is a bit early... and hardly any of the pictures are in the archives. PS, not it on the organizing. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 01:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Quick request

Just taking a look at Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals/Archive/18#Changing_vertical_CountryTemplates_to_Horizontal again; the problems of national infoboxes crowding out relevant images is still haunting us - I wonder if I could field your view on how to change things from the {{Canada}} way to the {{Canada-h}} way...? Sherurcij 15:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I assume your referring to the change from the horizontal infobox to the vertical one on Canadian news doesn't interest Prime Minister, prefers to watch American? Basically such things are decided on a per article basis. In many cases the vertical infobox just looks nicer than the horizontal one. In other cases the horizontal one will look nicer. It really depends on the number of images and other floating objects in the article. Bawolff ☺☻ 15:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I agree, if there are no images then we're best to use vertical - if there's an image, best to use horizontal. I was more just fielding for an opinion of how to ensure people realise both options exist. Sherurcij 18:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, well thats harder. People realize such templates exist when they see them used, and it is fairly rare that an article has so many pictures that horizontal looks better. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Usability group

As you might have noticed I set up an account Howie-test for someone who's working with Erik on the Flagged Revs config for enWP. He wanted to see how we'd set it up, feedback on issues we'd had, and so on.

Obviously, I'm going to show off some of Wikinews' cool gadgets and stuff given the opportunity. Spoke to him via Skype last night (with difficulty, I've almost completely lost my voice). Was well-impressed with some of the gadgets, and thought other stuff like the social bookmarking was a great idea.

Probably the first time we've got a chance to put some of your work in front of the usability group. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Thats awesome. I feel kind of famous. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Misc question

I'm wondering what's the easiest way to have a tooltip-ish template. This would be for my newsroom header. Lots and lots of short, terse, wikilinks in there and I'd like to have a really small template to use instead of the square brackets for a regular wikilink. Not really sure what, but something like {{plink|<wiki link>|<wikicode to display>|<on-hover tooltip description>...}}.

Quite a few places that would be very useful, and one of the things I found looking for code to copy was someone asking for a tooltip on the "Contact us" bit in the sidebar. Seems was done sometime for monobook, but lost now. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] MakeLead "hack"

Can you put a "hack" into makelead until we get the Google News listing crap sorted?

I think that gets everything that goes up as a lead into Google News. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:39, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

Hi, I'm testing my bot putting interwikis, I am monitoring it. I forgot to create the user page here. Best Regards!!! --Ezarate (talk) 20:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: {{review}} button

I'm honored that I was the first ^.^. Beautifully easy to use, and takes away the hassle of moving around templates. One of those small improvements that make editing a breeze. Thanks for making it (or to who ever did)! Marx01 Tell me about it 00:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Glad you liked it. ShakataGaNai gets the credit for thinking it up. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:17, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wiktionary Hover - minor bug

If you go to the top-right search box and type enough to get a list of possible options, eg "Special:" you can trigger a double-click launch of the gadget by repeatedly clicking to scroll the displayed list down one item. --Brian McNeil / talk 03:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thats cool. I'll have to think about how to fix that one. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] NL wiktLookUp issue?

Just getting a rprt in IRC about NL language section returning no definition (but menu/box working) - Amgine | t 22:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Update, only when page missing. - Amgine | t 22:37, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] A few latin quotes...

A few semi-random entries... - Amgine | t 05:38, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wish-list item for MAKELEAD

I don't know how feasible this is....

An option where an article doesn't have a picture to do a search on Commons for an appropriate image to use instead of the WN logo. [Possibly, to do so and change the existing image to a more-appropriate one.]

No idea what would be best for this - perhaps a preloaded search from names of topical infoboxes or categories the article is in. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Its certainly a cool idea. In many cases it'd probably be able to geuss a relevant picture better. If an article has no picture, but has an a country infobox, it should geuss [[image:Location<somewhere>.png]]. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I broke WN:ML this morning - it choked on this http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Mobile_operator_Orange_bills_French_doctor_%E2%82%AC160,000_for_one_month_of_Internet_use&oldid=913863. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

AlexandrDimitr reported a similiar error a couple days ago. There's something wrong with the regex that strips templates and images when there is a lot of images and templates at beginning of article. I'll hopefully look into it soon. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:18, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes. I broke it with the UN vs Israel one as well. It wanted to put a "]]" in from one of the images at the top of the article. Regex? It's perverse. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:31, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
It should be fixed. The regex did not like have internal/external links in image captions (for the phone bill article). The UN article the issue was that it didn't recognize a quote character as a letter, and didn't recognize blah blah". to be the end of a sentence. Both should be fixed now. let me know if you find any others. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:20, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] DynamicPageList

HI Bawolff,

My home base is the Dutch wiktionary and I would like to try to create some intersections between categories there to generate some statistics about the Dutch language, e.g. how many transitive verbs are also reflexives etc. Would you know how I could get that going? I tried to use DynamicPageList locally but it does not seem to compute and I have no idea how to get that option installed.

nl:wikt:Gebruiker:Jcwf (I'd appreciate an answer there, because I never come here.)

Jcwf (talk) 02:46, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

responded at dutch wiktionary. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a million, Bawolff. I must admit you answer made my head spin a little, but we do have some people there that might be able to do something with it. I might take you up on your kind offer and bother you some more at some point, though. It isn ot a terribly urgent matter, and we have loads of things to do, but it could become a thing of added value to wiktionary I think. I doubt that the kind of statistics you can generate this way are to be found anywhere.
Thanks again

Jcwf (talk) 15:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Easy Peer review

EZPRFail.JPG

I got this message when trying to submit my review of the Vietnam-Facebook story. It worked the second time I hit submit. Not sure it's that important, but it did say to tell you :p. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:39, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Ugh. It means something bad happened (unfortunatly the error message on IE is not very descriptive [due to my fault, IE handles errors differently than moz], so what exactly happened is a good question.) At least it worked the second time. Thank you for telling me. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tiger Woods

Yes, I know, but I'm trying to avoid 15 articles being created :) I'm adding stuff as fast as I can type :) Guinness2702 (talk) 20:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Sounds good. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:44, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re WN:ML

Hello Bawolff, I will be grateful to make these changes on French Wikinews, it will be a plus for our project. Also, I think the script has a problem with the images of the articles, sometimes they are displayed and sometimes not. For example, for this article, no image is displayed and the box has a problem with the 250 letters. Thank you very much for your help ! - Sniff (talk) 22:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: You edit!

That I do! Hopefully I'll be editing a little more now, but things are calming down outside of the wiki-world. --Thunderhead 04:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, i know what you mean - stupid real world ;) Bawolff ☺☻ 18:34, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wiktionary lookup (pt.wikt)

I've created the page on pt.wikt with this. But, I want to tell you that two links you pointed me don't exist, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary/Look_Up_Tool and http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/MediaWiki:extractFirst. I created the page just because en.wikt has one too and, if it's possible, I want to know more about the funcionality of this script. (Do it just let other sites to get definitions? Wich sites?) --Jesielt 05:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Bawolff, when I make my interface in potuguese it still give the english wiktionary definition ? Otourly (talk) 11:51, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


Hey, thak you for the answer!

Well, we make the "see also section" with a 2 level section at the end of page in two ways:
==Ver também==
=={{vertb}}==

We rarely use taht dynamicNavBox template. Sometimes, to put words in columns, we use three templates, like this:

=={{vertb}}==
{{verTambém.Ini}}
*[[word 1]]
*[[word 2]]
{{verTambém.NovaColuna}}
*[[word 3]]
*[[word 4]]
{{verTambém.Fim}}

But, we use these {{verTambém.Ini}} template in many other cases when we need to put words in columns. So, the 'see also section' is just ==Ver também== and =={{vertb}}==. I hope that it helps you! Regards, Jesielt 22:33, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] If you got a sec

Can you stop by FH again and tell me/fix UserMessages gadget. I tried to import it (stealing some WP templates) and it doesn't work. Now we've only got 1.15 and monobook there, so I suspect that might be part of the issues. Either that or it is my advert plugin below the toolbox. Lemme know, thx. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 08:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Basically, mediawiki replaced ~~~~ with your signature, the ' in your signature was interpreted as an end of string marker, and everything that came after that in your signature caused a syntax error. Should be fixed now. cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Damn it, I didn't notice the second instance of my sig. Why is that particular install translating my sig in .js? It doesn't do it here? Is it a 1.16 improvement, or did I screw up a setup config? PS... Thank you for fixing it (and my silly no include 'fix') --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 16:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
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