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"This comes after the death of nine activists when Israeli commandos raided the 'Gaza Freedom Flotilla' that planned to breach the Gaza blockade."---> there is an argument about the identity of the nine activist who died, some might have not have been peace activist....

That's true; they may have simply been incredibly incompetent militants hoping to be caught by Israel so they could unleash their baseball bats of fury.

Or they were people hoping to provoke Israel into attacking them so they could start a international incident. Which they succeeded in doing. --118.210.35.198 (talk) 23:28, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Or they were people who were shot because they grabbed a baseball bat when there were assault rifle armed soldiers falling from the sky above them. I mean really, if you saw that would you just give in and let them shoot you or would you do whatever possible to protect yourself. Maybe storming with helicopters and machine guns was the cause of the international incident.--64.252.118.59 (talk) 00:06, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out that five of the dead were shot in the back. Go ask Turkey.

Shot in the back... right... think you can believe the turks? of coarse not. they as well as the rest of the so called pro-palestinian bleeding hearts are anti-semitic and determined to do all in their power to see Israel destroyed. Wake up! they are not the peace loving protectors of human rights they portray themselves to be.

Have you stopped to ask yourself why similarly armed soldiers on the other 5 boats did NOT have to shoot anyone? Think about it. And in case you don't realize it, a baseball bat is a deadly weapon, don't think so? Let me hit you in the head with one then see if your opinion changes.

In a hectic situation like that I don't know one person who wouldn't pick up whatever weapon they had available. It's natural instinct. Fight or flight response. You can choose to run away or fight back, even very basic organisms have it. When you're on a boat, fleeing is not a really good option, so fighting is. It's all very simple. You people act as if you'd do something different on that boat. They were shooting from the helicopters before they even got down to the ship, ask any of the reporters there. Even if you don't buy that, maybe coming with live weapons loaded was a bad idea. They could have used tear gas, ACTUAL rubber bullets (not steel bullets with 1mm rubber coating), signal flares, blank rounds, etc.

Yet, you still take the side of the assault rifle clad commandos with helicopters and claim that the guy fighting for his life at 4:30am at sea with a baseball bat or wooden stick is the oppressor.

Yes baseball bats are dangerous but how come that at the g8 protests rarely someone get killed? The violence there, and at football match in europe, is equal or even superior. There has been great incompetence from Israel to not send people who can handle riots without starting shooting Pasdaran style.

"Let me hit you in the head with one then see if your opinion changes." I'm sure that would be lethal, although on the boat it wouldn't considering the soldiers had helmets, knee pads, elbow pads, flak jackets, and gloves. I'm pretty sure you can't beat someone to death if they have all that with even a metal baseball bat. Besides, they had guns, they could easily kill anyone holding a bat...which they did.

Besides, you just set up a great counterargument. "And in case you don't realize it, a gun is a deadly weapon, don't think so? Let me shoot you in the head, or chest, or foot, or hand with one then see if your opinion changes." --64.252.143.208 (talk) 01:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I saw the video, they were hitting them before they were even on board, hitting them on the boats and fast roping down.