Talk:First openly gay prime minister to be appointed in Iceland

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Title[edit]

This is a dreadful title. She is not the first openly gay woman. That's someone back in the murky past of history who probably got burnt at the stake for coming out the closet. May I suggest a variation on "A first for Iceland: Openly gay female Prime Minister appointed". --Brian McNeil / talk 19:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

First openly gay prime minister to be appointed in Iceland? Covers both bases... Redvers (talk) 19:55, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Icelandic names[edit]

According to Wikipedia, Icelandic names are properly abbreviated to the given name, not the surname. Instead of using one family name for one family, the surname indicates the first name of the father or mother. So if someone with the first name Jóhanna was born to a a parent with the first name Sigurðar, the daughter would be Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir (literally "Sigurðar's daughter"). See the Wikipedia page for Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir for an example of how this is used. I wasn't aware of this naming system until I clicked on her page, so please correct me if I'm wrong. ~Planoneck~ 21:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I should have read this first. Sorry for the changes that had to be changed back. I have confirmed that Iceland does do this in articles such as this. --SVTCobra 22:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Yup. I almost did the same thing, but I happened to be reading the wikipedia article on Jóhanna, and saw the handy name link just like Planoneck did. Gopher65talk 22:41, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Review[edit]

Hold on[edit]

I think Wikinews is jumping he gun a bit here: Johanna hasn't been appointed PM yet (although she almost certainly will be in the next couple of days). Neither am I sure that we have the permission to reproduce the image from http://eng.felagsmalaraduneyti.is/minister/cv Physchim62 (talk) 02:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

The article does not reflect that she is PM yet. But it is a done deal and will happen. RE the image: I wrote to the government there and a few other e-mails a source gave me. Trying for a free license or at least permission to use it. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, that's what I thought. It's hardly the status that's given on commons, nor an acceptable status for WM projects. As for jumping the gun, you're 24 hours behind the rest of the news outlets on Johanna's sexuality and its implications for world history: why not try to be the first when her appointment is actually announced? Physchim62 (talk) 02:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
We were not trying to be the first to report about it. Its not always about being first. If we are, then so be it. But our goal is to get out a good, accurate and interesting article. People here write what they are interested in, when they are interested in writing. So if we happen to be the first, or last then either way it makes me happy to see another article published. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
And I am very interested in reading it. It has reliable sources (I know Wikinews can also publish original research when it has it) and is reported as a done deal (unless something unforseen happens). GeorgeII (talk) 07:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

intro tad confusing[edit]

I'm a bit confused by the last sentence in the intro: "So far, none have yet to be elected either" - does that mean there have been no openly gay politicians elected to any political body in any country ever (something i find incredibly hard to believe) or does that mean that no openly gay politicans have ever been elected to the governing body of Iceland (and if so, did she get elected?), or does that mean that no openly gay person has ever been elected to the office of prime minister (which would be redundant). Sentence could be interpreted a lot of ways. Bawolff 07:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

It actually says specifically 'Prime Minister'. None have been elected PM before, in any nation, nor appointed at one until now. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:52, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I added "She will remain interim prime minister until the general election, rescheduled for May." to indicate that no openly gay person will have been elected even once she is appointed. Couldn't think of other wording. GeorgeII (talk) 15:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Image[edit]

For anyone wanting to know the copyright of the image, I sent the mail through scoop. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Can you send the mail to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org as well, please? I will tag it as OTRS pending and withdraw it from the deletion request. --InfantGorilla (talk)
I don't believe a OTRS is needed for a non-copyrighted image. If it is free, then there would be no reason to request a OTRS ticket. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 12:00, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Its not really needed but I sent it anyways. Unless you are OTRS, I doubt anyone will see it for a bit. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 12:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded the higher resolution version that was mentioned in the mail you posted at Commons. --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)