Talk:Police arrest train passenger for a 16-hour loud cellphone conversation

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Isn't this article stale?[edit]

The article effectively ended on May 19; adding a blog post posted May 23, an opinion piece, doesn't update the story IMO. What's the deal? Is the "window" actually an extra four days after original publication? Further, the last source addition, an opinion piece dated March 23, added nothing new to the article and seems to be added in order to to add a newer date an already stale article. It provided no UPDATED information. Is this a model to be followed for the future? It is more and excuse to muse on Australian manners and "young people these days" that a fact piece.Mattisse (talk) 18:23, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Article stale and POV[edit]

  • Also, since the incident happened in the U.S., why are they no U.S. sources? Why is the preoccupation all with Australian and UK sources? Are there no U.S. sources? This gives the article a POV slant. The article is not totally accurate from a U.S. point of view, since the 39 year old woman broke no U.S. policies. Amtrak does not have the same language/policies etc. as the U.K./Australian articles seem to think. This is POV, an article without serious attention just for the sake of getting an article published with a snappy tittle, it seems to me. It needs to be verified by a U.S. source. Mattisse (talk) 21:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


Unbalanced reporting. Why are all the sources for this article outside the U.S., considering that it happened in the U.S.? POV? Mattisse (talk) 19:15, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

  • I will decline to comment on that; but, please refrain from introducing location errors which contradict sources. Additionally, "opinionating" is not a valid derivative of "opinion"; one is said to be "opining" or, more neutrally, "commenting" or "remarking" – all active voice and thus preferred. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:24, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
In this specific context, "remarking" is more neutral than "opining".
BTW, it's not obvious to me but what Travers may include 39 in "younger generations". (My mother has been known to describe someone in their fifties as "young". :-) --Pi zero (talk) 23:00, 24 May 2011 (UTC)