Talk:Tens of thousands of people join the Israeli day parade

Pre-review

Status:    Not ready

Version evaluated: 4783659

• Copyright: Passed
• Newsworthiness: Passed
• Verifiability: Not ready: The single, provided source reporting after the event is The Times of Israel. I am not questioning the verifiability of The Times as a source. However, given the sources provided, one can not verify facts such as crowd count.
• NPOV: Not ready: With only one source reporting on the event as-it-occurred, and the one source being The Times of Israel, I think neutrality is questionable.
• Style: Passed

Notes for author(s):

Remember to order sources newest-to-oldest per WN:Source. Before the article is reviewed, consider adding a source reporting after the event and use it to tighten up the neutrality and facts such as the crowd count. Maybe we avoid using a number and instead use 'several thousand' or a similar statement.

Also, based on my reading of The Times article, the focus of the parade was more of general solidarity with Israel, rather than specifically the hostage-taking by Hamas.

[Parade attendees] all seemed united in their determination to show up for Israel and the Jewish people as a whole.

– Jordana Horn, The Times of Israel

Notes for reviewer:

The single source reporting on the event as-it-happened makes verifying facts difficult. For example, CBS New York reported a crowd of 60,000[1], while The Times of Israel reported 45,000.

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Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 16:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Michael.C.Wright: thank you for the pre-review. Although there are three source articles, two of them are predictive articles published in advance the parade. Those two publishers each have a more recent article reporting from the parade. Please consider replacing those two with:

• Parade for Israel in NYC focuses on solidarity during Gaza war
• Celebrate Israel Parade returns to Manhattan after COVID-19 hiatus

Once that is done, I think we are ready to publish it (after we address the numbers). [₂₄Cr][talk] 19:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

To clarify, individual claims can be supported sufficiently by one source. But at least two need to confirm the focal event occurred (copyvio is another worry with excessive reliance on a single source, BTW). So yes, another should be added here from after the focal event occurred — the combination of one source from after and one source strongly anticipating the focal event can work, but only when another from after can't be found). As for when claims are disputed, that usually can't be resolved just by adding another source, anyway. The most useful tool is attribution. Heavy Water (talk) 20:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

You are aware that the second source is from 2022, right? I have fixed other problems@Cromium@Heavy Water@Michael.C.Wright Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:38, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

I think all concerns have now been fixed Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Review of revision 4783781 [Passed]

Revision 4783781 of this article has been reviewed by Cromium (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: All issues have been addressed. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 4783781 of this article has been reviewed by Cromium (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: All issues have been addressed. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Thank you, please approve my pending edit to fully fix my mistake fixing my mistake...wow @Cromium: Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Done. [₂₄Cr][talk] 20:59, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Please update it on the main page too...@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Done. [₂₄Cr][talk] 21:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you again.@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)