Talk:Western Australian school performance undisrupted by WBC

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Review of revision 2517369 [Not ready][edit]

Revision 2517369 of this article has been reviewed by Microchip08 (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 07:04, 2 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

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Revision 2517369 of this article has been reviewed by Microchip08 (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 07:04, 2 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

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Thinking about it, you could also add a sidebar, such as {{Australia}} or {{LGBT}}, to the top of the article. Microchip08 (talk) 07:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Free publicity?[edit]

Do we really want to give the WBC this extra publicity? They didn't actually picket the place; why should they bother, when we'll publish a news article to the entire planet trumpeting about what they didn't do? --Pi zero (talk) 12:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Review of revision 2518036 [Not ready][edit]

Revision 2518036 of this article has been reviewed by Blood Red Sandman (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 20:25, 2 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

  • Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues.
  • Newsworthiness: Passed
  • Verifiability: Not ready: Articles require two mutually independent sources. That applies equally to the authors as to the publication. Here, both sources share an author making this single source.
  • NPOV: Passed
  • Style: Passed

Comments by reviewer: To respond to concerns by Pi zero, the fact the school performed the play (apparently very successfully) seems to me like it would pass the car crash test as local news. The WBC adds a dimension to that, I can't remember if it was in our previous article or not but students were quite upset ('emotional') but also pleased to have provoked a reaction.

In any event, while I share most of humanity's intense distaste for the WBC, it is incompatible with the interests of neutrality for us to dictate what news stories we will or will not carry simply because they provide coverage of parties we dislike.

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  • Newsworthiness: Passed
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  • NPOV: Passed
  • Style: Passed

Comments by reviewer: To respond to concerns by Pi zero, the fact the school performed the play (apparently very successfully) seems to me like it would pass the car crash test as local news. The WBC adds a dimension to that, I can't remember if it was in our previous article or not but students were quite upset ('emotional') but also pleased to have provoked a reaction.

In any event, while I share most of humanity's intense distaste for the WBC, it is incompatible with the interests of neutrality for us to dictate what news stories we will or will not carry simply because they provide coverage of parties we dislike.

Questions about the above? Ask.

If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Review of revision 2529837 [Not ready][edit]

Revision 2529837 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 13:29, 7 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

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Comments by reviewer:

  • I believe this is intended to contain original reporting, but there's no original reporting tag in the sources section (probably put {{original|left}} below the synthesis source citations), no reporter's notes on the collaboration page, and I don't see anything's sent to scoop. The template and notes would certainly be required, and almost certainly something to scoop. Emails with the school would be forwarded to scoop, which would also call for a note on the collaboration page that they were sent to scoop; and one might also include copies of emails on the collaboration page, with email addresses and names removed for privacy. The reporter's notes on the collaboration page would likely also include info on where to look to see that a twitter post doesn't appear to be there anymore.

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Comments by reviewer:

  • I believe this is intended to contain original reporting, but there's no original reporting tag in the sources section (probably put {{original|left}} below the synthesis source citations), no reporter's notes on the collaboration page, and I don't see anything's sent to scoop. The template and notes would certainly be required, and almost certainly something to scoop. Emails with the school would be forwarded to scoop, which would also call for a note on the collaboration page that they were sent to scoop; and one might also include copies of emails on the collaboration page, with email addresses and names removed for privacy. The reporter's notes on the collaboration page would likely also include info on where to look to see that a twitter post doesn't appear to be there anymore.

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Reporter's Notes[edit]

Email correspondence to Margaret River Senior High School (forwarded to scoop)

Sent Thursday April 3 2014

I am a journalism student from the University of Wollongong, and I have recently published an article on wikinews about Westboro's threats to picket your school's performance of the Laramie Project. I am preparing a second article to report on their failure to appear and wanted to give you the opportunity to comment on the lack of follow through. Also, could you please confirm for me that the attached image is a student performing and not a WBC member? The image was tweeted by the group with text to the effect of 'westboro pickets Margaret River High School'. I am also contacting WBC for comment and would greatly appreciate your input. Thank you

Received Thursday April 3 2014

Hi I can confirm that this is an image from the play and not a protest by the WBC. The WBC did not attend the school at anytime during the Play production 

Kad388UOW (talk) 02:38, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Email correspondence to Westboro Baptist Church (forwarded to scoop)

Sent Thursday April 3 2014

I'm a journalism student at the University of Wollongong in Australia. I'm writing an article about Westboro Baptist Church's comments last week regarding picketing Margaret River Senior High School's performance of The Laramie Project, and am hoping that the Church could provide some comments and insight about the matter. Ultimately, the question is: Why didn't the Church picket the performance as it said it would via its Twitter account? Also, I would like to know the Church's thoughts regarding comments made that Westboro would find themselves unwelcome in Australia? Thank you

Sent April 4 2014

Pursuant to my earlier email, I have several more questions regarding the Church's comments about picketing Margaret River Senior High School.

Firstly, last week, this appeared on the @WBCSays twitter account: "Westboro pickets Margaret River HS on 4/2/2014" - why didn't the Church picket the school on the date it said it would?

Secondly, earlier today, this appeared on the same twitter account: "Is tomorrow when Westboro Baptist will picket Margaret River High School? I think so! This is the message we bring >> bit.ly/UDUbF2". Is the Church aware that tomorrow is Saturday in Australia and the school will be closed?

Also, the school's performance of The Laramie Project was a one-off performance on April 2nd, so why picket the school now?

And lastly, the @WBCsays account tweeted a published photograph of the performance with the text "@WBCSays: Westboro Baptist Church pickets in Australia @LaramieProject - PHOTO: http://t.co/mEntHnpM3E cc: @theage @redditau @6PR @WAtoday @FairfaxWA" - why was this statement made when the Church failed to appear at the performance and the photograph is in fact a student performing as part of the play?

Thank you,

No response received

Kad388UOW (talk) 02:56, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Review of revision 2533257 [Passed][edit]

Revision 2533257 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 13:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Comments by reviewer:

  • Reporter's notes regarding WBC's later tweets could have been more thorough. The rule of thumb on OR reporter's notes is, aim to provide plenty more than needed. The later tweets were mentioned in your emails, and I chose to treat those mentions as "notes", to squeak by; but, as I say, aim high.

The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 2533257 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 13:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Comments by reviewer:

  • Reporter's notes regarding WBC's later tweets could have been more thorough. The rule of thumb on OR reporter's notes is, aim to provide plenty more than needed. The later tweets were mentioned in your emails, and I chose to treat those mentions as "notes", to squeak by; but, as I say, aim high.
The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.
One might also propose linking to related discussion (old version of page chosen purposefully) for additional context for the notes. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:52, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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