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Latest comment: 14 years ago by Brian McNeil in topic Excess sources
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Excess sources

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Please do not unneeded sources to articles. Unless there is a good reason – essentially that it is required to add content – sources should not weigh down articles.

Additionally, please refer the the style guide for the rules on the formatting of dates when you cite sources.

Thanks! --Brian McNeil / talk 07:28, 10 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

There was good reason to add new sources, since (if you had checked), these included video and pictures. As you probably know, it is an objective to provide original sources wherever possible. At the same time, I fixed some minor errors with existing citations. I trust you agree, since this is not an article I want to invest much effort on.
I was previously unaware that the (current) style guide for WikiNews is to use the USA date standard, which is not necessarily the case with the other WikiMedia projects that I am familiar with. You should note that I have restored my contributions, but have retained the US date format. However, you may be interested to read the comments on date format here:
* Style Guide: Talk: Date format
Hope this helps! Enquire (talk)
By the way, it's only MediaWiki that has a capital in the middle of the word. Wikinews, Wikipedia, Wikimedia et al. do not. — μ 08:13, June 10 2010 (UTC)
The whole point of not overloading articles with sources is that Wikinews employs Flagged Revisions, and has a formal, independent review requirement for articles. Overloading with sources is likely to stop articles being reviewed as a reviewer is required to read all sources. Trust me, we've been working on this stuff for years - there are very good reasons for the way a lot of things are done. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:37, 10 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
I think I'd better warn you of WN:3RR, before you continue (I'd hate to see you blocked for something you didn't know about). — μ 09:32, June 10 2010 (UTC)
I looked at the style guide but couldn't find what you mentioned. Did you mean original reporting (although the sources you link to aren't OR). — μ 09:35, June 10 2010 (UTC)

Date format

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Sorry, but the Wikinews date format is extremely unlikely to be changed; it will remain as-specified in the style guide. Should you wish to review past discussions around this, please see the archived history of the style guide. I do know there are the standards you cherish, but they're machine-convenient, not human-convenient. Our choice is for unambiguous dates. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

I don't "cherish" the ISO standard, however I do understand their lack of ambiguity internationally. I am not quite sure what you mean by "human-convenient" since I don't quite see in what way the ISO format is inconvenient. However, I have noted that Wikinews has an established preference for US style date standards and respect that consensus. Enquire (talk)