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Maccabiah Games begin in Jerusalem

Hi. Suggestion? Can you start a new article about the Maccabiah Games begin in Jerusalem with your pictures? Do a photo essay instead? Category:Photo essays has recent examples. Label the article as original reporting. (Follow examples of recent ones for how to do that.) On the talk page, comment on how you know all the facts in your one paragraph. It occurred on this day or that day because you attended in person. You saw Peres there and he was introduced over the loud speakers. Things like that. :) This is probably the easiest way to do that. If you can do that, it is easier to translate to Spanish. (Journalist notes here on English Wikinews can probably be in Spanish, and the photo essay can be easily translated by you or some one else to Spanish Wikinews.) And then maybe some one can translate it to Russian. --LauraHale (talk) 19:27, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

This situation has gotten confused. All the documentation was back at the earlier article, so the photo essay had no documentation, leading a reviewer to find it not-ready for lack of documentation. A photo essay does need documentation for basic info in its lede — such articles usually have one or two synthesis sources listed in their Sources section — and when you claim original reporting on an article there should be a note on the talk page about how you're involved ("I went to the game and took pictures. Got there early. The crowd was enthusiastic, cheering every goal for either side. Some clouds looked threatening but fortunately it didn't rain.") --Pi zero (talk) 10:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

The documentation always was on the earlier article, I just added a new source from an english-language news website from Israel that even has a video, but the other two sources were listed before. You guys are making things too frustrating and complex! --Maor X (talk) 11:02, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

It just happened. The reviewer who reviewed the photo essay wasn't someone who had been involved with the earlier article, so they didn't know about it. --Pi zero (talk) 12:21, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

• Published, Nineteenth Maccabiah Games open in Jerusalem. Congrats!

I did pull a few details (see the article's edit history). Documenting OR is yet another skill to learn, which is part of why we usually recommend starting with synthesis.

Btw, we've tweaked the not-ready review template several times over the years; it has to say what needs to be said, but we've put much thought into doing so as usefully as possible, and no doubt there are more tweaks waiting to be devised. When I first game here, it actually (believe it or not) said "fail" instead of "not ready" — and, amazingly, that was when we had a whole contingent of folks here who wanted to impose Assume Good Faith, yet they never thought to suggest changing "fail" to something less troll-worthy. --Pi zero (talk) 17:07, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I still think the text in the template sounds rude...probably my perception. --Maor X (talk) 17:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

We generally move unpublished OR articles to userspace. User:Maor X/2013 Maccabiah Games begin in Jerusalem. --Pi zero (talk) 01:06, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

• The torch-lighting picture was deleted from Commons. If you have a version you can upload to Wikinews under WN:FU, and we can get rid if the ugly hole in the photo essay. --Pi zero (talk) 19:16, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

I do have quite a few versions of that file since I took several shots of Aly lighting the torch. I still just don't understand why it was deleted. And if it has been deleted, I don't see the point of uploading it again. Sorry. --Maor X (talk) 21:22, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

The point is to upload it locally, rather than to Commons. Only if it is elligble for our local WN:Fair use policy. Once it's uploaded locally under fair use, it won't get deleted.

It is only elligible for fair use if the picture was not being broadcast to the screen from a news service. --Pi zero (talk) 21:54, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Assistance with understanding how much original reporting costs

Hello and I apologize for writing in English. As all language Wikinews improves, The Wikinewsie Group wants to be able better support original reporting done by contributors like you. One of our newsletters at The Wikinewsie Group/Newsletter said you have recently published an original report. This is why I am contacting you.

Members of the The Wikinewsie Group are trying to assess the costs associated with original reporting across all Wikinews projects. This way, we can determine how much original reporting currently costs, who is paying for it, what Wikinews and other projects get for these costs (especially when paid for by unpaid, volunteer contributor reporters). This information can then be used in applying for grants, measuring the success of Wikinews original reporting and seeing how reporters can be better supported. If you could complete this survey on that topic, we would very much appreciate it. We will try to anonymize the responses as best possible when writing up any report. Thank you very much for taking the time to fill it out (especially in English). Please do not hesitate to ask me or pi zero about any questions you may have about this research. We hope the results will enable us to better assist you in conducting more original reporting on Wikinews. --LauraHale (talk) 08:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)