User talk:The 13th 4postle

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Welcome, buddy!

We need all the help we can get, Carlos. Let's get down to business!MattM 04:26, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

paragraph move

The Venezuela story, for flow I understand the change by moving my insertion of the "hero's return" paragraph to the front. However, I do wish to express the inverted pyramid style of reporting which puts the latest news first in a story. -Edbrown05 03:21, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I now notice the Wikipedia's article stresses other criteria than "latest news" for inverted pyramid reporting. I think I have a problem with that :) -Edbrown05 03:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Pyramid

Yes, I see your point too about the bias. Further development of the article could have mitigated that, but that wasn't going to happen and I knew it wouldn't, I probably should have left it alone (so, sorry in that regard). "Latest news" first is a sort of hot button for me. -Edbrown05 03:26, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't object to you changing it back. I did last evening look at the source story for the "hero's welcome" to get an idea of the number of supporters that attending the rally. No number was mentioned, which left me wondering how important that aspect of the story was (Not very important probably), so please do revert if you haven't already. -Edbrown05 03:38, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

located source...

Don't mean to butt in, but after a quick search of google news, I've properly linked the source in the article. --Chiacomo ^(talk) 03:40, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

The concern was with the report putting Jenny Figueredo paragraph as the lead-in to story. -Edbrown05 04:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

This message to the user was in response to note xe left on User:NiNja's page... :D --Chiacomo ^(talk) 04:07, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

venezuela rally photos

could u please indicate the sources and copyright information for the photos. thanks, Doldrums 13:45, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Did you take them yourself? Bawolff ☺☻ 05:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay. Could you Please put who you received permission from, their exact words, how you received it (Email, in person, written etc), and if the picture is available online, where online on the image description page. (What would also be really great is if you did this but that's a little complicated and not required, but it would make it so all wikimedia projects in all languages could use that picture) thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the source. However I still need to know how you know these images are public domain (Did you email the author? Do you know the author? are you the aurthor?). Bawolff ☺☻ 00:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I would like to email him just to confirm (sorry for all this double checking, its just often there's a slight problem with an image's copyright, which gets discovered around 6 months later, and the image has to be deleted, because no one can figure out anyone to contact at that time, to get the information necessary, so I'm trying to make sure the images copyright is 100% correct, as soon as they get uploaded). Anyways, I was wondering if you could tell me his/her email address. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Iraqi military reports sharp drop in Baghdad violence

Hi 13th 4postle,

Sorry to revert your name-change on the article, but it is the Iraqi military reporting these figures. I, like you, however, disagree that independent numbers should be shown to contrast. I hope I didn't upset you too much. --SVTCobra 00:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems that you don't understand what I am saying. Yes, the source of the info does matter. Your headline makes it seem like fact. Do you assume that what Atta (or whatever his name really is) says is the absolute truth and beyond questioning? --SVTCobra 00:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Why does it Matter?

Why does it matter. That doesn't change anything. Your making it sound like the Iraqi military is the only one saying it. And if you look here [1] it says it is the Multi-National force press information centre.

But that source talks about the killing of US military personnel, not general Bagdhad violence. --SVTCobra 00:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and please sign you comments. --SVTCobra 00:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I like to think that I do remain calm, but thanks nonetheless :-) By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes (~~~~), which produces your name and the current date (or press the signature button on the toolbar). --SVTCobra 00:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Bloomberg

have replied on article's talk page. also, pls sign your comments. –Doldrums(talk) 16:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

recent comments

I don't have a clue what you mean by putting various people on notice, or saying someone is dead to you. However I'd like to remind you to be polite, and that there are many people you may not like, but they're here nonetheless. Putting them on notice doesn't change that, or get any outcome from them that you'd prefer. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

You're about this close to being On Notice. The 13th 4postle 13:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Your statements are considered personal attacks and are IMO disruption, If you have isues with users, talk to them. Adding them to a "on notice list" is not acceptable. Please remove it from your userpage. DragonFire1024 13:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, these "attacks" are not helpful to the project and can be considered by some as disruption. DragonFire1024 13:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

User page cleanup

Please clean up your userpage. I shouldn't have to point out which parts are offensive to the community. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Joke or not, these are offensive and should be removed. DragonFire1024 13:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

You are listing people as bad or good and those are personal attacks, especially when you tell users thaey are "this close" to being on notice. WN:NOT is one... DragonFire1024 14:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I take it people are aware of the reference to w:Colbert Report. when i get listed in Fantasies, i'll complain of personal attack. –Doldrums(talk) 14:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

i'm not particularly offended, as i've indicated above. but be aware that not everyone will have the same threshold of tolerance. so its better to be safe and not make personal remarks than to have to say sorry later. –Doldrums(talk) 14:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I suppose its ok then...but please do not add anymore users to any of those lists as they will mostl likely consider that offensive. I hope that you will still edit Wikinews. DragonFire1024 14:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I had been looking for a way of adding my On Notice status to my TrophyRoom. I wasn't offended. Apology accepted. --SVTCobra 14:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

That being said, I do believe that when you put me On Notice, you were genuinely annoyed with me and that it wasn't just for laughs. --SVTCobra 23:09, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, everything is cool, but I don't care much for the oblique user page comments of yours. Actually, I don't even think I could formulate a response that adequately addresses what you are doing on your user page. I object, but that objection has nothing to do with someone interested news. take care, and keep sniffin' for news, i promise that i will thrash it. -Edbrown05 23:03, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

RCTV protest images

can u pls link to the source of the images where its license terms are mentioned. the current source link simply leads to the image itself and so am unable to verify its license terms. –Doldrums(talk) 07:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I have a feeling 13th's reaction would be to shrug shoulders and say, "Don't you people get it?" I think the answer to that is yes. And I also think the answer to that is other people's wishes. One must be mindful of them. -Edbrown05 08:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I've just been informed that some of the protest images were deleted. I may be able to get them undeleted if you wish. I'd need to know where the image was from though. (like website, your friend, you etc). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I've just been informed that the photographs come from a competing news source (reuters), and therefor we can't use them. Sorry. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

RTCV article dissapearance

Replied here: Wikinews:Water_cooler#HELP.21.21.21.21. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Website of Venezuelan National Assembly is disabled by hacker

Please see Talk:Website of Venezuelan National Assembly is disabled by hacker for further discussion. --SVTCobra 01:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)