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08:59, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Hopefully this will be the last one I deliver, unless you have a grudge against the author of the new extension too (not serious). ;) PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Heh. We generally don't care who writes the code, the issues were based on ... other reasons. Critiquing the previous tool would've been an unduly harsh addition to then-existing concerns. :P --Brian McNeil / talk 10:57, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

20000 articles in English Wikinews

Congratulations from Russian Wikinews! --Brateevsky (talk) 19:55, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks!
And, hurrah! --Pi zero (talk) 20:26, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Commons attempt to delete image in-use at Wikinews

This Wikinews article Santorum neologism gains prominence during US election cycle uses this image File:Still Life with Rick Santorum, Lube, Dildo, and Justin Bieber doll.jpg which is a form of satire and parody.

Notifying here as the image is proposed for being deleted in a deletion discussion over at Wikimedia Commons, please see discussion at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Santorum images.

Thank you for your time,

-- Cirt (talk) 06:40, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This type of move is only one where, usually, we'd be doing so because Commons were hell-bent on deleting despite an image being in-use.

It did prompt me to check local File: pages; these, fortunately, have no influence on what Commons sees as being in-use. It is a fairly nifty trick, which is how I've filled Category:Brian McNeil (Wikinewsie) with media files I've uploaded. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:02, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

punchline --Pi zero (talk) 13:31, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"This type of move is only one where, usually, we'd be doing so because Commons were hell-bent on deleting despite an image being in-use." -- I agree with Brian McNeil (talk · contribs) here, normally this is not even ever necessary, as having an image in-use on a sister project means it is therefore in-scope at Wikimedia Commons. And in this case, it is in-use on an article that was: (1) Reviewed, (2) Published, and (3) Archived, and subsequently (4) Full-protected, as per our normal site policy of WN:ARCHIVE. -- Cirt (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the image is in use is irrelevant. Commons have their policies and we have ours. Commons will delete a copyright violation if it is in use. Regarding these images, I'm fairly agnostic as to whether they ought to be deleted, but I do think "well, Wikinews is using them, ergo we shouldn't delete them" is a fairly bad argument because there's an immediate counter-argument: yes, but Wikinews shouldn't be using them because of the WMF board resolution. As I said, I'm agnostic on the Commons DR (and probably won't participate because of my attempt to adhere to ignore all dramas) but our local policies don't override Commons' policies, nor do they override WMF board resolutions. —Tom Morris (talk) 09:31, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to bite my tongue about the resolution, other than to point out it is almost-always a really bad idea to make retroactive legislation. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:30, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Brian McNeil (t · c · b), biting your tongue sounds painful, especially in this situation, I hope you turn out okay. -- Cirt (talk) 22:51, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]