Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous

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News writers union[edit]

Los Angeles Times writers vote in favor of unionizing. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Meanwhile, at The Washington Post. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:44, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

A tiny fix[edit]

See phab:T185455. —Justin (koavf)TCM 09:19, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@Koavf: Curious. Was done to four pages in 16 August 2005 based on this water cooler thread: diff. Four pages were changed: MediaWiki:Previousdiff, MediaWiki:Previousrevision, MediaWiki:Nextdiff, and MediaWiki:Nextrevision. --Pi zero (talk) 12:54, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
@Pi zero: So I'd noticed. Bizarre. In case you or someone else reading this are not familiar with HTML, the problem was that someone wrote "&rarr" instead of "→". Just a small typo: the former actually displays "&rarr" and the latter displays the arrow →. Can you please delete these? They will fall back to the default arrows. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Done --Pi zero (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! That has annoyed me for 12 years (almost 13)! —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:38, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
@Koavf: What puzzles me about this is that I have found no direct evidence on this project of any such typo. The indirect evidence is so strong that I've gone back several times to the revision histories of those pages, but the typo just isn't there. --Pi zero (talk) 17:23, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
@Pi zero: Well, you can't find that anymore, since MediaWiki:Previousdiff, MediaWiki:Previousrevision, MediaWiki:Nextdiff, and MediaWiki:Nextrevision were all changed--that will change the layout of the entire site, including in revisions (just like how if you change a template now it changes all of the previous revisions if you try to review them). Does that clarify? If you're still trying to piece it together, I can help. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:39, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
@Koavf: I'm not sure what you mean. I have looked at each revision of each of those four pages (more than once, because it makes no sense to me that the evidence wouldn't be there somewhere). Because those pages existed when the problem was observed, the wiki software should have been showing what was in those pages, so if the phantom typo were visible, it should have been in a revision of those pages. Unless, of course, there was some sort of bug in the platform at the time; the evidence suggests some such bug. --Pi zero (talk) 18:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
@Pi zero: Hm. Well, I can't see the page history of course as I'm not an admin and can't see deleted pages. But it used to be the case that MediaWiki:Previousdiff had "<-" as its text. The default in MediaWiki is "←". Now, page diffs display with the proper Unicode arrow character but they used to have the ASCII hack. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:47, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
@Koavf: Indeed they did have the ASCII hack. And the hack was put in place because, as testified by the archived thread, somebody was getting the exact behavior one would observe if the typo were present. And, the hack eliminated the problem, just as it would if the typo were present. Except that the revision histories of those pages do not support the hypothesis that such a typo was present. Well, there's no problem now. --Pi zero (talk) 19:54, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-04[edit]

23:55, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-05[edit]

17:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Australia criminalizing reporting on leaks[edit]

Really shocking stuff for anyone who might write for this site from down under: (koavf)TCM 00:28, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Pretty interesting, to say the least. Personally, I don't believe it is going to play out in the "doomsday scenario" portrayed in this article. The Aussies themselves didn't bother to write about it for a month is seems. --SVTCobra 00:48, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Google News[edit]

I noticed in Google News there doesn't seem to be any recent Wikinews stories, the latest one I found (search term: "wikinews") is from January 8th: Saudi Arabia: Princes arrested after protesting austerity. I don't know if this is an issue with Google or Wikinews, or on my own end, so I figured I'd bring it up. —mikemoral (talk) 07:03, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I see the same, alongside Mysterious dimming of Tabby's star likely due to space dust, not alien superstructures, say scientists (not logged into Google). —Justin (koavf)TCM 08:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
I observe the same problem, regardless of whether I'm logged into google. --Pi zero (talk) 17:13, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
@Mikemoral: I suppose someone should inquire of them? --Pi zero (talk) 20:24, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
@Pi zero: Who got in contact with Google to get Wikinews listed? I come across their how to guide for getting listed in the first place, but I would imagine this process was done already. —mikemoral (talk) 20:57, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
@Mikemoral: I think that was brianmc. --Pi zero (talk) 20:58, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

@Pi zero: Perhaps we could ask Brian about it, or someone can perhaps try getting in touch directly with Google, setting it up again if needed. Some searching indicates Google recently delisted many publishers, perhaps on accident, on the 8th, which is the date of the Saudi prince article (Google forum link). Perhaps this is an issue that stems from that. It might be the case we got accidentally delisted, but were never put back up. —mikemoral (talk) 07:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

@Mikemoral: As an alternative to the accidental explanation for such large-scale delisting, Google may have been trying to tighten up on "fake news". Either way, they may be waiting to see if someone misses it and inquires. Brian could tell us either who he talked to, or (less likely I'd guess) who of us talked to them. When Brian came by a few months back I think he told me what email is mostly likely to reach him; I could look it up if you think it would be useful, though lately I've not been having much luck getting a response from him via email. As I recall, the contact that roused him to that activity was a phone call from one of us (not me). --Pi zero (talk) 11:53, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-06[edit]

20:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-07[edit]

21:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-08[edit]

22:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

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