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Tech News: 2017-51[edit]

15:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Knowing how journalism works combats conspiratorial thinking[edit]

Original paper, popular article. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:38, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Photo's Russian country houses[edit]

Interesting story (Wikidata-item- Russian news article is the original one) about images published with free license. Someone who wants to translate? --Livenws (talk) 15:24, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

@LIVE NIEUWS: Um, afaik, on this project only User:Gryllida is an active native speaker of Russian. Without them, I do not think we would be able to do anything.
•–• 16:34, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
I translated into Dutch with the help of a translate machine, it's not a very complicated story. It would be nice if it were published here! :) --Livenws (talk) 16:40, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
Machine translation -- gives me goosebumps. I don't trust it, and it is better if someone who knows Russian can help. @Gryllida: can you find time for that article? The link is ru:Аэрофотосъемка 200 русских усадеб пожертвована Википедии.
•–• 16:51, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
An anecdote I usually end up telling about how truly dreadful automatic translate is, is a story about some minister (from Turkey, maybe?) missing a meeting somewhere, and a (Turkish?) source automatic translation said he had been decapitated. Which seemed unlikely... though not quite as unlikely as it would be in some countries. I did quite a lot of digging to deduce the decapitation was brainless translation of a passage saying he had a bad head cold (I suspect it may have involved an idiom similar to "sneezing one's head off"). I've encountered much worse, things that produce no warning signs like a claim of decapitation; like a Spanish source that I didn't realize was a press release because I couldn't pick up on the patterns of writing that only a fluent reader would be able to observe, and it made a big difference to the entire review that I didn't realize it was a press release. We handle automatic translations with extreme skepticism. --Pi zero (talk) 17:32, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
This is a fairly easy article to understand with translate machine, other articles can be different (like that of Turkey), but you could not miss much in this. --Livenws (talk) 17:53, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

On showing your work in 21st-century journalism[edit]

http://pressthink.org/2017/12/show-work-new-terms-trust-journalism/Justin (koavf)TCM 02:47, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-02[edit]

16:19, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-3[edit]

18:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

News writers union[edit]

Los Angeles Times writers vote in favor of unionizing. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

A tiny fix[edit]

See phab:T185455. —Justin (koavf)TCM 09:19, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@Koavf: Curious. Was done to four pages in 16 August 2005 based on this water cooler thread: diff. Four pages were changed: MediaWiki:Previousdiff, MediaWiki:Previousrevision, MediaWiki:Nextdiff, and MediaWiki:Nextrevision. --Pi zero (talk) 12:54, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
@Pi zero: So I'd noticed. Bizarre. In case you or someone else reading this are not familiar with HTML, the problem was that someone wrote "&rarr" instead of "→". Just a small typo: the former actually displays "&rarr" and the latter displays the arrow →. Can you please delete these? They will fall back to the default arrows. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Done --Pi zero (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! That has annoyed me for 12 years (almost 13)! —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:38, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-04[edit]

23:55, 22 January 2018 (UTC)