Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2024/September

usertopics

I would like to go over last year and tag users' key topics (article categories). If I know username I can see their deleted contributions. But I don't know usernames - can I view RecentDeletedChanges somewhere?

My objective is to compile a list of users who made new articles (not spam) and next to each user list top 3 categories their drafts belonged to, including both deleted and published

Then I could message them all and offer that they are notified of new drafts in their top Categories, to involve them in copyediting

I may require your approval in that this is a good idea, and a pointer to where RecentDeletedChanges is (hope it goes more than a month back)

Thanks, Gryllida (talk) 12:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

I think this could eventually be useful, but right now we need articles published to generate that data. I think a better use of our manpower is a laser-focus on solving the inactive reviewer problem. If we have too few active reviewers because of an overly-strict review process, let's focus on fixing that. If we have too few active reviewers because of an overly-strict or slow promotion process, let's focus on fixing that. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 13:22, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I am still trying to understand what's causing the issue, either I am not familiar with the article topic and it is too hard to verify it properly, or it is something else. I asked someone above to volunteer writing news local to my area. You could do that too if you wanted too, if you like. If it works, then the same experiment can be repeated with another reviewer (I and perhaps a few other authors could write a few stories within the other reviewer's knowledge area and see how that goes). If it does not work, I will need to figure out what makes reviewing so challenging and how it can be made easier. Gryllida (talk) 11:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

banner with note of drafts

I'm proposing to

Option 1: create {{ArticlesInNeedOfHelp}} template with the following contents:

It is 21:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC) now. Please help revise the following drafts:

• Example article headline (Event: September 5, 2024)
• Example 2 (Event: September 5, 2024; Revision requested: 15:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC) )
• 4 killed in Apalachee High School shooting (Event: September 5; Revision requested: 02:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC))

This template could be shown as part of site notice at the top of each page, at least to the logged in users. Ideally I want users to keep seeing the banner if its content changed, but also be able to opt out of seeing it entirely.

I anticipate this could be one way to get more users to copyedit the drafts more quickly to address the reviewers' feedback.

On the troublesome side, someone'd need to maintain this template, adding new drafts to it and timestamps of reviewer feedbacks, and remove entries which are over 5 days old from date of event.

Also it could be simply cached and out of date, but I hope editing a template makes it auto-expire cache in all target locations.

Another version: option 2

There are 5 drafts in need of revision, please help by revising these submissions.

Where the 5 drafts links to a page with the content listed above.

Another version: option 3

There are 5 drafts in need of revision, please help by revising these submissions.

Where 5 drafts links to Newsroom, and number 5 is automatically calculated as total number of 'Drafts never reviewed' and 'Drafts up for review' and 'Drafts which were not readied' (whatever corresponding categories are).

Please let me know what you think. Gryllida (talk) 21:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

"Copyedit now" button

The page [1] has a button that takes to a random article with issues. Issues are marked in a banner. Could something like this be implemented here and put in site notice? Maybe "random draft which is developing which is with event not more than 3 days old"? Having such button could be more appealing to some users than clicking newsroom link , familiarizing with its layout, and then clicking a headline. Just a thought. (other thing they do well is monthly cleanup drives) Gryllida (talk) 13:38, 16 September 2024 (UTC)