User talk:Gryllida

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bot request

Hi, gry. In future, would you be able to create a bot which archives the sources and external links?
•–• 16:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Maybe we could use w:User:InternetArchiveBot which does the same task and runs on more than one wiki. It is written in PHP.
•–• 23:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

i will check it out Gryllida (talk) 10:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Acagastya would such bot be allowed in wikimedia toolforge? External articles are not freely licensed. Gryllida (talk) 22:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

???

Can you clarify a bit about this Welcome a bit?--Bddpaux (talk) 21:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Bddpaux, it sends you email notifications about new article submissions - either to the 'develop' or 'review' or 'published' queues. You can choose a set of categories (eg 'Australia' or 'Politics') to limit the tracking only to these categories and not to all of them. Gryllida (talk) 21:51, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Bddpaux would you like to sign up? I'm trying to implement this more in wiki software here. Please let me know how this works for you? Gryllida (talk) 22:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

WelcomeABit

Hi Gryllida

I'd like to sign up for the welcome-a-bit notifications. Here are my preferences:

• Article status ('published' or 'developing' or 'review'):
• Topics (comma separated):
• Delivery type ('email' or 'wiki'):

--2006nishan178713^t@lk 04:03, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Are you still interested? Can you provide more details? Thanks Gryllida (talk) 10:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Facebook again

Hi Gryllida, good to see you're back. I sent you an email around mid-November asking if you're still able to post to the Facebook page, and if so if you could post an acknowledgement of the situation with it. Could you look into this when you've time, please? Thanks. Heavy Water (talk) 17:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, do you mean "Hi all, we have spam in our Stories section, we are investigating. Unfortunately we have to go through the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) and it may take several weeks. Sorry for the inconvenience" message? Gryllida (talk) 23:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Yep. Heavy Water (talk) 04:08, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Can see only button to 'Create a fundraiser' or reply to DMs. I think I don't have access to create a new post. If there's a volunteer interested happy to do screen sharing and show you what features are available to me, maybe I am not looking in the right place... Gryllida (talk) 00:14, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Was this resolved? Gryllida (talk) 10:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello

It's been a while. Could you please move User talk:ICameHereForNews to User talk:CheatCodes4ever? CheatCodes4ever (talk) 10:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

They both have a page history, would you like the User talk:CheatCodes4ever page to be deleted together with all of its history to allow for the page move? Gryllida (talk) 00:09, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 00:16, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello? CheatCodes4ever (talk) 10:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

CheatCodes4ever: I suggest you ask at WN:Admin action alerts to direct your request toward all admins and probably get a faster response. I'm not an admin, but I don't think it would be acceptable to move one account's user page to another even if they're operated by the same person (it seems whether these are operated by the same person ought to be indicated anyway). Heavy Water (talk) 16:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Was it discussed at AAA? Gryllida (talk) 03:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Bureaucrat??

I actually want to re-assume this role.... Can you make that happen?--Bddpaux (talk) 22:37, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Missed the entire discussion. I will review it at earliest opportunity and get back to you. Gryllida (talk) 03:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

My wikinewsie email

Acagastya asked (at their talk page) for you to press some buttons so I can re-connect with my email account over there. I've totally lost my password for that account and imagine I have ten million emails.--Bddpaux (talk) 02:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

My VPS died and I don't have access at present. @Acagastya please send me an email and I will reply with my pubkey. Gryllida (talk) 03:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

WelcomeABit

Hi Gryllida

I'd like to sign up for the welcome-a-bit notifications. Here are my preferences:

• Article status ('published' or 'developing' or 'review'): developing
• Topics (comma separated): 1. Wars 2. Science/Tech Stories 3. US Politics
• Delivery type ('email' or 'wiki'): TBC

(This is my note for Me Da Wikipedian)

--Gryllida (talk) 02:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

sxw files discussion

Lost the link, if someone finds it, please post it here... Gryllida (talk) 11:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Email???

Did you read my response? I really need to be able to get into my WN email account to do some work.--Bddpaux (talk) 14:31, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Mpox article

I would love to review this article, but the notes were sent to Scoop -- I cannot access my WN email account. That is a major problem. This has to be rectified.--Bddpaux (talk) 18:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I have been trying to reach Acagastya for two weeks to get access to the mail server now.

Apologies for the delay. He provided me access but I did not setup my access to it from all my devices. One of my devices died and we have this situation now.

Internally we should have a Wikinewsie/wn-reporters wiki. We had one before. It could be good to put cell numbers of key users with privileged access into such an internal wiki one day. Would you agree?

I will keep you updated. Gryllida (talk) 02:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, the internal space was nice. But: We need the 'formal' email space we've had. --Bddpaux (talk) 15:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Familiar? mpox article

In written form this may come across as snitty (so please don't take it that way) -- but as a Reviewer (Editor), I don't think one really needs to be familiar with a topic to review/publish an article appertaining... one just needs to know the rules about what does/doesn't work around here. Don't want to scold you for not reviewing something, while I am busily not reviewing it myself -- I am just curious about your thinking.--Bddpaux (talk) 00:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

@Bddpaux I find myself more successful in digging sources, for hours at times, for some topics but not for others. Weather and crime events, and local news, are in the former category. I find it unfortunately very difficult to work outside of this small list of topics. I don't, for example, know, nor can remember quickly, that WHO has a chairperson or some structure in it that votes on things; I can easily misuse or misplace their names. Reviewing a story with new vocabulary takes me two or three times as much time (which is my current environment comes in blocks of 5 minutes, rather often not a whole free hour, not to mention two, due the surrounding noise.) I don't know whether that's normal or not. It would be interesting for me to know whether other reviewers have such stronger and weaker topics also, or not. I am happy to clarify as desired. Gryllida (talk) 10:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

subscribe

Category:Gryllida/notify/new/develop Gryllida (talk) 09:18, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

We need Three active Wikimedians to join us on Wikimedians of Art Outreach User Group

Please, l need two active Wikimedians to join our Wikimedians of Art Outreach Users group. Very urgent. Please help me to recommend two active editors for our User Group?

Three active Wikimedians. 1. Olusola David, Ayibiowu 2. 3. Visit: https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Art_Outreach_User_Group#Objectives

EduEditorsNG (talk) 12:14, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Review of article

I didn't want to 'not-ready' the Heavy rains hit Southern India article again in hopes that you can quickly fix it for publication. See the talk page for more. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 13:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I've replied on article talk page. Gryllida (talk) 11:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Help me to add My profile photo in Wikinews

File:Olusola David Ayibiowu.png

Olusola David, Ayibiowu my profile photo.

this is photo link on Appropedia https://www.appropedia.org/File:Olusola_David_Ayibiowu.png

EduEditorsNG (talk) 15:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

If you can

Please proof my recent review: Bruce Lehrmann judge said to have no links to published book of judgement. Thanks. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 21:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Michael.C.Wright I've revised for inverted pyramid and didn't sight my edit; please check? Gryllida (talk) 22:08, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Quantas article

Because I know you prefer getting pinged here; I have reviewed Qantas Australian airline employees strike for better wages and posted in the talk page. At 97 words, it was too short to publish but I hoped I could expand it enough without becoming involved. However, there are other, unsourced statements that if removed, would render the article too short for publication. Details at the talk page. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 15:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

thanks for ping working on it now Gryllida (talk) 21:14, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

test

1 Gryllida (talk) 21:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

New open poll, request to update sitenotice

I have opened a new poll here: Wikinews_talk:2024 Copyright license upgrade#Set date of actual upgrade (a poll).

Can you update the sitenotice (the banner at the top of all pages that currently says "Wikinews is written by people like you..." to point to the open poll and encourage people to discuss and vote on it? It is an urgent vote on a long-standing project.

Thank you in advance. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 18:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

ok i will do it soon Gryllida (talk) 04:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

done and I asked you a question about the licence. :-) Gryllida (talk) 04:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

One more time, please.......

What was the browser/email client you'd recommended I download/use to start receiving my wikinews emails?--Bddpaux (talk) 15:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

w:Thunderbird, please test for both receiving and sending emails

once working please let me know and send screenshot of your settings to @Michael.C.Wright as he got email access ages ago but is not able to send emails

thanks @Bddpaux

have a good day Gryllida (talk) 04:06, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

OK. Thank you. And: I don't use Mozilla Firefox -- will that cause problems?--Bddpaux (talk) 20:50, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Firefox does not have an email client in it. We currently do not have webmail installed. Gryllida (talk) 22:14, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the request at AAA

Recently you said this at WN:AAA[1]: Thank you for your help AramilFeraxa. For Michael.C.Wright's reference, I am a local sysop and I may be able to assist quickly, I only need clearer instructions what needs to be done and up to two days to respond. Seems like a non urgent issue and I had no idea what steps are needed. If anything is needed in future a request can be made here with specific instructions.

Are you suggesting that I did not give local admins an opportunity to take action on the request? I initially made the request at AAA six days ago, explicitly so that any admin, whether global or local (yourself included), could respond. However, no local admin addressed it until after a global sysop stepped in to assist.

It is counter-productive to ask global sysops to step back when local admins are not addressing the workload. We have been requesting assistance from local admins since July[2]] to make necessary edits to edit-protected pages for the upgrade project, and those tasks still remain unfinished.

If your schedule does not permit making the edits yourself, could you consider temporarily removing or downgrading the edit protection on the listed[3] pages? That would allow me to complete the changes and move the project forward.

Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I appreciate any steps you can take to help resolve this. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 14:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Michael.C.Wright

Thank you for asking me.

• It isn't Wikipedia, if it is not vandalism then waiting more than six days is fine. I would have seen the message eventually. Possibly on a weekend.
• I am not sure how I am supposed to follow the page. I managed to subscribe to receive notifications about recent changes by joining 'en.wikinews' live chat on Wikimedia IRC network. There is a bot that outputs each recent change. However, this is too much for me to read on my busier days. It would be nice if there was a way to receive notifications of new edits on-wiki, with each notification being given a priority (for example, messages which ping me or are on my personal talk page or are on AAA are 'very high'; messages or edits to articles I watch are 'high'; everything else is 'average'). I haven't seen any way how this can be achieved. So my responses are spotty for now and I welcome any assistance in the setup.
• For the above reason, highlighting me or leaving me a message could help. (I'm two weeks behind on my echo notifications, but yet this is going to likely be something that I read among first items on my list when I am less busy.)
• I don't know what you want me to do. One option is to downgrade protection. What is the other option? What edits can I possibly make myself? The link in "downgrading the edit protection on the listed[3] page" contains a long discussion and does not include a list of pages I can immediately act on.

Thank you again. Gryllida (talk) 17:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Request for the license upgrade project

I have made a request here: Wikinews_talk:2024_Copyright_license_upgrade#Pages_to_update. I am posting here as you have previously preferred. I will also notify you via IRC. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 17:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Why...

Are you publishing articles without updating the ledes? It's a necessary step, I'm just wondering if there's something preventing you from doing it. Heavy Water (talk) 20:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Tried to do it a few times this year and got bored after updating the first two ledes. I did complete it that time, but did not want to do the procedure again.

It would be much better if the software updated all five ledes in one go, not on separate actions. Gryllida (talk) 21:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I did it twice yesterday, and honestly such a royal boring pain to bear with. :-( Gryllida (talk) 21:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Wow, I accidentally clicked one of the entries listed in MakeLead and it actually filled it in as news title for making the lead. I was previously typing its first two-three words manually into the box each time and waiting for autocomplete of the title. The clicking is so much easier. I'm happier about the process now. Gryllida (talk) 02:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, thank you for taking the time to review and publish my work! I really appreciate it.

I've started putting inline citations on everything to maybe help the reviewing process go quicker and easier for you.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do to reduce workload in the review process, or if there are any recurring learner's mistakes in my work that I am not seeing. Have a good day!! Lofi Gurl (talk) 21:07, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Lofi Gurl :-)

About inline citations via {{Verify}}:

• Wikinews never did. They appeared when Michael.C.Wright started reviewing as far as I know.
• They are not an official policy.
• Published articles do not have them.
• I don't use inline citations. I delete them. I am going to fact check a sentence against all sources, so having an inline citation next to it does not help me.
• If it is essential that a particular piece comes from a particular source, it is best to spell it out in text.
• (This also leaves an option to do audio Wikinews, which is kind of like radio. I don't know where that went, I'm going to work on it on the holidays. Citations are not audible while 'BBC reported that...' is.)

For reducing load:

• include image credit
• write in past tense
• visit Newsroom and edit others' submissions for NPOV, copyvio, inverted pyramid, etc
• find your peers who are keen to spend a lot of time online and enjoy reading, and invite them here
• you're welcome to join live chat (my nick is 'gry' there)

Let me know if you have any further questions. :-)

Regards, Gryllida (talk) 21:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I noticed that the inline citations got removed from the finished articles, I guess my thought process was that each individual claim would be easier to check and verify if it had the link right next to it. I think it could also make it easier to identify any copyright issues that need fixed in the article. Thanks!! Lofi Gurl (talk) 21:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good. Gryllida (talk) 21:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida, Lofi Gurl: {{verify}} is indeed a tool to help both authors and reviewers in ensuring all information is sourced. Some reviewers will recommend hidden, HTML comments, which I have used in the past as an author. Attributing in prose is of-course highly recommended and often necessary, but can't be done for every single statement. While every single statement must be sourced and verifiable, per WN:Source.

I made the template specifically to help alleviate the problems caused by too few active reviewers, namely the time and effort required to review articles, which can often be more difficult than actually writing an article. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 15:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't use this tool. I read through each source to verify each sentence. When I see it in articles I review, I delete the 'verify' templates blindly as a first edit. Just a FYI I don't recommend all authors to use it; if it is essential that a claim came from a specific source this needs to be written in text. Gryllida (talk) 23:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

This story stale?

https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Male_taken_in_after_a_driving_problem_has_shooting_in_Boston%E2%80%99s_South_End_neighborhood, thank you, i just don't want to continue writing if there is no point. BigKrow (talk) 21:51, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Technically "anything within last 7 days" is considered passable currently which was done as a last resort when the were lack of reviewers. There is a strong preference to fresher events, of course. May be best to write it shorter (just the 5Ws and ensure minimal length is met) if you would like to help the review to be quicker. Gryllida (talk) 21:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Gryllida, Lofi Gurl

Gry, Lofi Gurl has helped greatly. BigKrow (talk) 21:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Lofi Gurl. Gryllida (talk) 22:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

My BBC source in the Syria article

Can you check the way I formatted the authors in that reference and let me know if it can be improved in any way? I have the article submitted for review. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lofi Gurl (talk • contribs)

Feras Kilani missing.

They wrote "M and O, with B and F and L in Damascus" because I guess the last three are on-site. This does not matter for the source template.

"Matt Spivey, Owen Amos, Barbara Plett Usher, Feras Kilani, Lina Sinjab" maybe OK? Gryllida (talk) 22:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

I have a question about copyright

Am I required to give photo credit on works that are public domain? Thanks. Lofi Gurl (talk) 22:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

not required, but you can anyway if you want :-) Gryllida (talk) 22:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)