User talk:Gryllida

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bot request

Hi, gry. In future, would you be able to create a bot which archives the sources and external links?
•–• 16:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Maybe we could use w:User:InternetArchiveBot which does the same task and runs on more than one wiki. It is written in PHP.
•–• 23:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

WelcomeABit

Hi Gryllida

I'd like to sign up for the welcome-a-bit notifications. Here are my preferences:

• Article status ('published' or 'developing' or 'review'):
• Topics (comma separated):
• Delivery type ('email' or 'wiki'):wiki

--The Irate Communist (talk) 16:25, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

The Irate Communist, thank you for signing up! Just confirming that you are interested in notifications of when an article becomes marked as 'developing' (this is the earliest stage of article development), for any topic, to be delivered on-wiki. Is this correct? Gryllida (talk) 19:20, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

yeah, that's all correct!The Irate Communist (talk) 03:38, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi The Irate Communist. Sorry for the delay. I've signed you up now; please check your talk page. Gryllida (talk) 00:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

WelcomeABit

Hi Gryllida

I'd like to sign up for the welcome-a-bit notifications. Here are my preferences:

• Article status ('published' or 'developing' or 'review'): review
• Topics (comma separated):  all
• Delivery type ('email' or 'wiki'): email

--William S. Saturn (talk) 20:09, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. (Sorry for the delay.) Gryllida (talk) 00:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

WelcomeABit

Hi Gryllida

I'd like to sign up for the welcome-a-bit notifications. Here are my preferences:

• Article status ('published' or 'developing' or 'review'): review
• Topics (comma separated):  all
• Delivery type ('email' or 'wiki'): email

--Imran Saeed (talk) 15:03, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar

I, Pi zero, hereby award Gryllida this barnstar for original reporting in 2020.

Thank you, Pi zero. It has been fun to work together with you, co-authors, reviewers, and people who made minor fixes. Also, with those who read, without any way to know who they are. Happy New Year! Look forward to the next years writing together. --Gryllida (talk) 20:57, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Bureaucratship

Hi. I've promoted you to Bureaucrat. Had to look back to my own promotion in 2013 to see what sort of notice had been been given to me on that occasion. There doesn't seem to be any tradition for crats similar to the mop-and-bucket for admins, tho. So: congratulations. :-)  --Pi zero (talk) 14:47, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Pi zero. Appreciate the nomination, and the notification. (I also was, and am, available on live chat -- in addition to the wiki -- for assistance and discussions.) Gryllida (talk) 00:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Trophy

I, Red-back spider, hereby award Gryllida the Wikinews Trophy for awesome programming skills and the program "WelcomeABit".

Well deserved. --Pi zero (talk) 02:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Red-back spider, and Pi zero. Gryllida (talk) 04:40, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

???

Can you clarify a bit about this Welcome a bit?--Bddpaux (talk) 21:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Bddpaux, it sends you email notifications about new article submissions - either to the 'develop' or 'review' or 'published' queues. You can choose a set of categories (eg 'Australia' or 'Politics') to limit the tracking only to these categories and not to all of them. Gryllida (talk) 21:51, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Can you...........

....remove Admin. privileges for User:Brian? See RfP discussions if you need to know more.--Bddpaux (talk) 15:29, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

I see........

...that you've been around recently.....Hi! It'd be great if we had more than 1 'Crat on this project. Your thoughts? There has been some voting at Requests for Permissions.--Bddpaux (talk) 02:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Bddpaux! Agreed, and I have voted. I will double check it and the pending backlog soon. Gryllida (talk) 11:02, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Great! Maybe it's me, but I didn't see your vote anywhere? Do you think we have enough supporting votes to give me (and others) 'Crat privs?--Bddpaux (talk) 14:57, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Added my votes. (Previously I participated in votes about something else.) Thank you for the heads-up. Gryllida (talk) 01:52, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

WN:RfP Gryllida (talk) 23:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Userspace drafts

Hello. I’ve created a list of draft articles in userspace. Among them are these ones in your userspace. I don’t want to tag them for deletion or anything until you’ve had a look:

• User:Gryllida/Articles/Drafts/Adobe PDF zero-day exploit discovered, fixed unofficially in two hours
• User:Gryllida/Articles/Drafts/Google adds phone call feature into Gmail
• User:Gryllida/Articles/Drafts/Nokia announces Microsoft partnership
• User:Gryllida/Articles/Drafts/Solar roadways can power the USA with electricity, study finds
• User:Gryllida/Australian mother finds deadly snake in child's lunch box
• User:Gryllida/Debian closes FTP mirrors for download
• User:Gryllida/Georgia high school teacher fires gun in empty classroom, gets arrested
• User:Gryllida/United Launch Alliance says they will use reusable space rocket, save 70% of launch costs

There’s no urgency but it’s just something that has been on my to-do list for years and I figured I might as well get the list going. Cheers. --Green Giant (talk) 00:37, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Green Giant. They're ok to go, as I have saved a local copy. Would you like me to delete them, or you would prefer to do it? Please let me know. Gryllida (talk) 02:10, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Okie doke. I’ll delete them if you wish, because I’ll be doing a batch deletion nomination for some others soon. --Green Giant (talk) 13:05, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Gryllida (talk) 02:55, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Deleted. Cheers. --Green Giant (talk) 22:29, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! Gryllida (talk) 23:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Okie dokie........

So, thanks for the vote. Now what?--Bddpaux (talk) 11:42, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Helo, Bddpaux. Is there some time, or number of votes, after which the request can be closed? Gryllida (talk) 02:55, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

• Mmmmmmmm: About right now sounds good to me.--Bddpaux (talk) 13:28, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

• Ummmmm, or: how about now?--Bddpaux (talk) 01:12, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Comment Looking at the older discussions at WN:Requests for permissions/Bureaucrat, the general length seems to have been about two weeks.

* Bawolff - 13 days

* BRS - 7 days

* Brian NZ - 9 days

* Chiacomo - 14 days

* Cspurrier - 7 days

* IlyaHaykinson - 4 days

* Pi zero - 18 days

* ShakataGaNai - 9 days

* Skenmy - 8 days

* Tempodivalse - 32 days

* TUFKAAP - 8 days

I think it is fair to say all the bureaucrat votes have either reached 14 days or been long past that line. It would be a good idea to set a time limit for future nominations. Also I think it’s time to close Cspurrier's removal vote. --Green Giant (talk) 01:47, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the check. For Cspurrier - done. Will return online in a short bit to continue. Gryllida (talk) 02:03, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Yep....it's been a while now. I think action is due. Historically, the adding of bits has been all over the map in terms of times. We should (soon, with some kind of consensus, of course) look at time limits or minimum times or something of that ilk. I recently closed an RfP that'd bubbled for over a year. Seems a wee bit silly to me.--Bddpaux (talk) 02:37, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I’ve cobbled together some suggestions on these issues at Wikinews talk:Requests for permissions. --Green Giant (talk) 03:01, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Kewl.....let's give it a few days for reading/thinking/discussing etc. --Bddpaux (talk) 03:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

ArbCom 2021

Hi Gryllida. I was wondering if you'd be willing to stand for ArbCom this year? If you don't wish to nominate yourself, I would be happy to nominate you.
•–• 07:51, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I would be willing to stand for ArbCom this year. Thank you for the offer. Please nominate me. Gryllida (talk) 02:03, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

'Crat

Thanks! Can you give me a 50 word tutorial on how the privs work and what my 'routine' duties might look like?--Bddpaux (talk) 14:30, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

You should now be able to grant/revoew admin/crat privs to those who are eligible or have been outed out, @Bddpaux:.
•–• 14:51, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

OK. So there is probably a User List page or something, that gives me the buttons to press in order to make that happen??--Bddpaux (talk) 19:40, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Bddpaux: The additional rights are listed at Special:UserGroupRights. The main page you would use would be to change local rights at Special:UserRights. Enter the name of the user you want to change rights for. Tick or untick the relevant tick boxes, write the reason, and save. Then close the discussion and inform the user on their talk page. --Green Giant (talk) 20:01, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Bddpaux, like Green Giant wrote above, you can modify user's rights at Special:UserRights. (This is usually preceded by a vote.) Please let me know if you have any questions. Gryllida (talk) 22:05, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Professor interview

Even for OR.....it's a bit further out than I care for........but it was well sourced/documented and is a good addition to the project. Cheers!--Bddpaux (talk) 20:03, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the review, Bddpaux. Gryllida (talk) 21:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Frog article

.....just wondering what your overall intentions are re: that article.......?--Bddpaux (talk) 16:42, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Interviewee was going to send more media. I am following up. Gryllida (talk) 21:45, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered users

Hi!

You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

If you have not seen it before, you can read more on Meta. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can subscribe to the weekly technical newsletter.

We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Temporary change to article length

Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current proposal. The minimum requirements for article length will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! [₂₄Cr][talk] 23:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Roger. Gryllida (talk) 00:47, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

WelcomeABit

Hi Gryllida

I'd like to sign up for the welcome-a-bit notifications. Here are my preferences:

• Article status ('published' or 'developing' or 'review'):
• Topics (comma separated):
• Delivery type ('email' or 'wiki'):

--2006nishan178713^t@lk 04:03, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Requested edits

Please edit User:Gryllida/NewArticle/common.js and User:Gryllida/js/addInstantSaveToNewArticle.js to remove the redlink cats. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:00, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi, the categories like here even though redlink are used by my welcome-a-bit software. Could you please note delete them from pages in userspace?

I will edit the .js files later today within a few hours, busy with something else at the moment. Will keep you updated. Gryllida (talk) 00:18, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Temporary change to freshness

Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current proposal. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! [₂₄Cr][talk] 17:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Create category??

As a Bureaucrat, I know I can create/populate categories. I would like to create on focused on the Russia-Ukraine war. How can I do that??--Bddpaux (talk) 18:28, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Paul, we already have Category:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. I added it to the article you just published. SVTCobra 19:01, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for that.--Bddpaux (talk) 20:03, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks SVTCobra Gryllida (talk) 23:19, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

One permission removal request to review

Since you're one of bureaucrats, I would like you to review the following: Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Blood Red Sandman. George Ho (talk) 04:48, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I am giving BRS a few more days to comment, then will take action.--Bddpaux (talk) 17:29, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi George Ho and Bddpaux

I had sent an email to BRS some time early December after the first message here, via Special:EmailUser, and got no response. Commented on the vote/discussion thing.

Regards, Gryllida (talk) 20:50, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps we could come together and create a WhatsApp Jami or Tox group for all people who have some sort of privileges at Wikinews (doesn't matter which - reviewer, sysop, autoconfirmed etc)? That'd be useful in the case everyone involved actually commits to installing the instant messaging app on all their devices, and enabling notifications.

(I'm not sure how that'd be better than email, or wiki messages. Perhaps wiki messages do not generate a notification to people who do not log in to the site. I log in about once a week for example, as my Firefox is in Private Browsing by default. There was some time when it wasn't, but then I wouldn't go to the wiki site every day, as I had other things to do. But that -- 'it does not show notifications' -- is true about Jami and Tox as well; the only difference being that they have a tray icon and start on startup and auto-login, which the wiki doesn't. Hm.)

Is there a way to have a tray icon for the wiki on desktop, or an {Android, iOS, Maemo, Sailfish} app, that logs into the wiki automatically and shows a counter, and generates a notification, each time there is a new notification in Special:Notifications on any of the sister wikis? Gryllida (talk) 20:51, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Help regarding spam flag

Dear Mr/Ms Administrator;

I have been trying to post a message in the Water cooler but it keeps preventing me from doing so as it would flag it as a spam. Please could you help me post the message there?

This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: cs-spam-simple News gen (talk) 11:22, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

I know not why your message triggered the abuse filter. I have, however, posted it and replied at Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance#Contact Address of Wikinews as a News Publisher. SVTCobra 14:41, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Some of our widgets/formatting type stuff has been acting up a bit around here.--Bddpaux (talk) 20:12, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Replied at the water cooler to you, News gen. What a fascinating idea. Gryllida (talk) 23:12, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

@News gen: the automatically blocked edits contained words / phrases used by spammers / spambots on this wiki in the past. This DOES NOT mean you are a spammer; just that you tried to use similar character strings. I won’t list them but characters such as the AT symbol could be part of a spam email address for example. [₂₄Cr][talk] 18:20, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Permission removal

So, to remove BRS's Admin bit, which buttons should I press?--Bddpaux (talk) 22:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi Bddpaux, I see now that you already did it. Apologies for my slow response, and many thanks for closing the deadmin request and actioning it.

For future reference: I would suggest to put link to the deadmin discussion into the summary box when performing the action of removing this user right. Then it may be clearer that the action is backed by the said discussion and consensus, and easier to locate the discussion if needed.

Have a great day. Gryllida (talk) 01:58, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikinews:Writing contest 2023

Hello. We've created Wikinews:Writing contest 2023, which will start on February 1 and end on May 1. It is modeled on the successful 2010 and 2013 contests. As a reviewer who has recently been inactive, it would be a great time for you to rejoin. If you are interested in signing up, please do so at Wikinews:Writing contest 2023#Entrants and create a category for the articles you submit. Heavy Water (talk) 04:05, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Awesome thanks, will do. Gryllida (talk) 05:09, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

New Ibot

Hello Gryllida, I saw your mention of Ibot on IRC and decided to try it out. I like the idea, and things were working fine...until the "Copy/paste the headline and URL here" part. I pasted this (headline in one message, URL in the next), but Ibot was unresponsive. A second attempt produced the same results. Heavy Water (talk) 00:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

lbot does not count the lines or identify which part is an URL or a title, sorry.

lbot responds only to 'next', so you have to manually say it after each step. Gryllida (talk) 04:52, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Note, I will try to fix this in a future release. How would you like it to be implemented? Would you suggest that lbot continues after two lines have been sent assuming one of them is an URL and another is the headline? Or perhaps write «When done please write "next"» reminder about a minute after the previous prompt? Gryllida (talk) 04:54, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Ohh, I see. If the instructions included, say, "Put the URL in one line, then the headline in the next" the bot wouldn't have to actually determine which is a URL, and it (should) be foolproof. The reminder could also be helpful (I forgot). Heavy Water (talk) 05:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

"PROMPT: At any time, please write 'next' to continue. Now, write 'next'." I think this is what confused me; "at any time" could mean only "Whenever you're ready, please write next on this step". Heavy Water (talk) 05:23, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

AI generated articles

Hi. I wanted to let you know the article you recently reviewed was at least partially AI generated. Given the author's name, it may have been ChatGPT. I do not know how your own iBot project compares or how it works. I do think it is something we will need to discuss in some forum. Cheers, SVTCobra 06:12, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, saw ChatGPT's brain is proprietary and I would be reluctant to use it. My bot doesn't have an AI brain at the moment. Gryllida (talk) 06:45, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

IRC…

Yes, I am aware of the Libera move. I can be found (as traditional) in #Wiktionary; I am bridging from Matrix. - Amgine | t 02:39, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Email??

I have not used any WN-related email address in a pretty good while now. How can I get my log-in credentials? --Bddpaux (talk) 14:32, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, we may need to ask Acagastya. I'll also need to reset mine. Alas, I lost a hard drive last year with my wn-reporters email and ssh access info. Gryllida (talk) 23:34, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

(Note: in this instance 'lost' means I still have possession of it; it's bricked as a part of the laptop melted.) Gryllida (talk) 23:34, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

De-admin??

I intend to take steps to de-admin someone (they are OK with it)... but for the life of me, I can't remember the actual steps needed to make that happen. I probably need to start at Wikinews:Administrators. I am uncertain if I have ever taken someone's keys away here before. Can you advise, please?--Bddpaux (talk) 20:39, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi Bddpaux, at Special:Contributions/Gryllida, click "user rights management" at the top. That should have tick boxes that can be added or removed, and a reason textbox to note in the log. Gryllida (talk) 04:25, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

OK. That was helpful.--Bddpaux (talk) 19:12, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Good:), and let me know if you have any questions. Gryllida (talk) 09:26, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Question about DR and bot

Hi!

There is not much action on either Wikinews:Bots#Requests or Wikinews:Deletion_requests#825_sxw-files. Is there any chance you could have a look and decide what to do?

If I'm granted a bot flag it would be nice to know if the sxw-files are to be deleted or not. If they are deleted I will skip them. If they are to be kept I will fix them with my bot.

The background info is now located at Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance/archives/2023/August.

Thanks a lot --MGA73 (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi MGA73 :)

The bot request is marked as successful and the bot has already been granted a bot flag. I'm presuming no further action is required.

What is this SXW thing? Is it another document processing format? Is this format proprietary? Hoping to get more information on this.

Many thanks. Gryllida (talk) 22:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

.sxw. Craig Spurrier said at the DR in the early years the Print Ed was written in LibreOffice, and "the open-source tools available for editing PDFs were few and had major limitations. Providing the SXW file was a way to provide an editable source file for it." Heavy Water (talk) 00:01, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Looks like this is not a proprietary format. Perhaps some contributors will find it useful as the print edition is allowed to be edited (please correct me if I'm wrong) while distributing in pdf format effectively makes the content read-only and means it is harder to make a derivative. I would be delighted to have these in docx format maybe these days but see no harm in keeping the old ones around. If this is the case, utilizing the bot to categorize them correctly would be nice. Gryllida (talk) 00:16, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

LibreOffice, for example, currently supports the editing of PDFs. (I should note all of these appear to have been created before LibreOffice was in 2010 — but it's thus obvious Cspurrier meant OpenOffice.) I agree there's no harm done by keeping them. Heavy Water (talk) 01:12, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi Gryllida! Yes the bot request need no further action. The SXW are not needed but I fixed most of them so I will not save much time if they are deleted. So if you do not feel comfortable deleting the files you can close the DR as keep. --MGA73 (talk) 13:51, 26 October 2023 (UTC)