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Tools for experienced writers[edit]

What sort of tools would help to make article writing easier for experienced Wikinews writers? It appears folks sometimes start to write an article, then don't have time to finish it within deadline; what sort of tools might cut down on how often this happens, by reducing the time and effort required? Feel free to speculate wildly; I'm trying to fashion building blocks from which to build interactive tools, and I'm looking for ideas about what sort of tools the building blocks should be able to build. --Pi zero (talk) 16:38, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

At first glance, this one might sound silly, but it would be fantastic to have a push-button option to help find file photos on Commons for certain topics. (e.g. If I'm writing an article about President Obama, with just a click or two, Commons would offer me up 2-3 file photos from which to choose.) --Bddpaux (talk) 16:41, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
That's an interesting thought. It's occasionally occurred to me that our category pages have images on them that could be drawn on for generic usage on related articles, which ought in principle to be something a semi-authomated tool could orchestrate. --Pi zero (talk) 17:19, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
I agree with the push button idea. So to clarify, there would be a button beside an article I'm writing to retrieve photos? Anyways, I think a semi-automated tools should orchestrate images from category pages, which I think is a good idea. Sam.gov (talk) 22:52, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure tooling helps fix the "don't have time to finish it within deadline" issue. The only way to fix that is to have more people helping out. Perhaps a template tag to say "look, I started this, can someone help finish it and/or adapt it into a new article". —Tom Morris (talk) 18:37, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
@Tom Morris: we do have a similar templete like this one:
As you can see, it says, "You are welcome to contribute to it", but it also says "This is not a method to request someone else expand, or complete, an article for you!". I think it says this because it doesn't automatically send out a request to individual editors to help out. So the problem is that other editors may not respond it it for whatever reason, even though it is inviting. I think a better method is to invite individual editors to help out by going to their talk page and say, "Hey do want to help out writing this news article?" or something like that. That is one method I can think of right now. —Sam.gov (talk) 00:47, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Every country in the world[edit]

Happened to notice, whilst curating in the archives: though I'd heard we've published at least one story about every nation on Earth, and this jibed with my experience in the category hierarchy, I've discovered one we seem to have missed: São Tomé and Príncipe. This did prompt me to get around to a minor cat task I'd been mulling over for a while, on an article from 2005 about a UN vote; but that's not really the same. --Pi zero (talk) 16:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Default search[edit]


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Currently, we're cofigured so that by default, Special:Search looks at mainspace and portal space. This is currently inappropriate, I suggest, because our portals are not maintained and are not nearly as useful, to anyone, as our categories. Most of our topical redirects from mainspace go to categories rather than portals (though there are still a few that go to portals merely because they haven't been updated).

I suggest we change the default for search to mainspace and category space instead of mainspace and portal space. --Pi zero (talk) 03:26, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

  • I certainly Support the change. Even were we to have maintained portals, categories makes more sense as a search target unless we were pushing out a couple of dozen articles daily. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:16, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Hmm, how times change (I always thought portals were stupid, and people used to love them so much for no apparent reason) </reminiscing>. Bawolff 02:59, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Support After so much argument, in the end it was apathy towards them that deprecated portals by default. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 00:04, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Yes, please. Gryllida 09:22, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Support --Ochilov (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Support I too believe portals should not be considered useful anymore. Wikinews has a small community and so it was almost impossible to mantain all these portals. Diego Grez (talk) 00:48, 18 December 2014 (UTC)