Talk:At least 20 die in Odesa in Russian missile strike, Ukraine reports
Spelling?[edit]
Odessa? BigKrow (talk) 01:28, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you BigKrow. I have fixed it. Regards, Oleg Yunakov (talk) 23:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- also spelled Odessa? BigKrow (talk) 18:39, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Source??[edit]
I wouldn't normally, but since this is a translation from Russian WN, I will let the non-English source article slide.--Bddpaux (talk) 21:49, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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Meduza[edit]
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User:Oleg Yunakov: So, it was pointed out to me that this article contains a substantial amount of content apparently copied from a translation of the Meduza article cited as a source for the original article on Russian Wikinews. The article here on English Wikinews does not cite that Meduza article, as it should, because not citing it left some statements in the article unverified. But even more seriously, this raises the question of whether doing so constitutes a copyright violation. Translation does not remove copyright restrictions imposed on the pre-translation text, but can impose further restrictions if an automatic translator is used. Both the Russian and English Wikinews editions license their publications under version 2.5 of the same license, yet I see that the Russian Wikinews article describes the Meduza article as distributed under CC-BY 4.0. Even such a usage, afaik, is a copyright violation by Wikinews since there were updates from 2.5 to 4.0. Moreover, I can't locate anything on Meduza's website that offers information on what license the article's under, aside from a "© Meduza, 2024", from which I can't determine anything with certainty other than that it isn't in the public domain. If you could shed light on this, that'd be great. Heavy Water (talk) 07:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- I just noticed the first edit summary, which clarifies that the Russian Wikinews article is supposed to be under CC-BY 4.0 (the author of both editions' articles is the same person); so the incompatibility exists only between Russian Wikinews and English Wikinews if that is indeed the license Meduza's article is under. Heavy Water (talk) 07:48, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Heavy Water. Here you go: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/08/meduza-is-granting-open-access-to-all-content-about-the-war-in-ukraine-under-a-creative-commons-license Oleg Yunakov (talk) 11:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. But under WN:Copyright, text on en.wn can only be released under CC-BY 2.5. There is a discussion at the water cooler about the possibility of switching licenses, and one of the suggestions there is switching to CC-BY 4.0, but that is still only under consideration. I know in the past when copyvios were published, they were retracted, but that's a drastic step, so I'll flag the discussion first. Heavy Water (talk) 19:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- The en.Wikinews article fails to meet the terms of Meduza's license by not attributing the original publisher. I'm not certain about the compatibility between CC-BY 2.5 and CC-BY 4.0 licenses, and I don't fully understand the legal nuances of Creative Commons backward compatibility. However, it's clear that our article is non-compliant due to this omission. At a minimum, this article should list the Meduza article as a source and link to the CC-BY 4.0 Deed. The Russian version of the article does. Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 00:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. But under WN:Copyright, text on en.wn can only be released under CC-BY 2.5. There is a discussion at the water cooler about the possibility of switching licenses, and one of the suggestions there is switching to CC-BY 4.0, but that is still only under consideration. I know in the past when copyvios were published, they were retracted, but that's a drastic step, so I'll flag the discussion first. Heavy Water (talk) 19:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)