Talk:Australian broadcaster projects Liberal win in Ryde district, New South Wales, two weeks after state election

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A few things which I feel are missing:

  • When did people vote? As in the date of the election.
  • A margin of 50 or 60 is certainly small but out of how many total votes was it? If Ryde only had 500 votes cast, it would be a 10% margin. If there were 500,000 votes, it would be only 0.01%. I feel the total is needed for context.
  • So ABC "called" the election, but when and by which process does the result become official? In the US we call it certification by officials often called a Board of Elections aka an election commission.

Cheers, SVTCobra 16:52, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • The election date is in the second sentence, "Two weeks after the start of the state election on March 25th, Jordan Lane is set to win the seat after his predecessor, Victor Dominello, the Member for Ryde since 2008, retired prior to the election." If there needs to be another mention of the date somewhere I'm happy for suggestions though.
  • The process of which the result becomes official is when the New South Wales Electoral Commission announced the end of the count. The Guardian source confirms that the Commission announced that, though maybe I should include that in the article? I assumed it was unnecessary but you bring up a good point.
  • You're right, I should add the number of votes as a reference, it should be on the NSWEC's website.
Thanks. Commemorative1 (talk) 01:53, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I missed the date when I read it earlier. SVTCobra 05:32, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments by reviewer: Commemorative1: Another good article, with noticeable improvements. Please see the edit history for some things I fixed.

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Freshness issue[edit]

@Heavy Water: It seems that by the time of publishing they have finished with the second count[1] (check count complete). - Xbspiro (talk) 05:02, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Xbspiro: It appears The Guardian misreported the focal event's date, causing us, too, to report it as Saturday, not Friday.
But are you sure "check count" and "recount" are synonymous? The Guardian reported on Saturday the initial count had finished and the check count finished "on Saturday", so presumably the same day. But ABC News reported on Friday night (UTC+10:00): "A spokesperson for the Labor party said the party would consider its options after the Easter break regarding a recount of the vote."
So it seems unlikely that, within hours, Labor decided to request a recount right away, the government agreed, and the recount began (and finished the same day).
But I think the story still reads fine without it. Heavy Water (talk) 13:08, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK, so the percentages mentioned in this article aren't the first-preference votes, but those after the check count, which is how they distribute the preferences to determine the final winner. Heavy Water (talk) 13:36, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Heavy Water: You are right, check count and recount are not synonymous. An actual recount for this district had been ordered on April 13[2]. Check count seems to be a second count of ballot papers, a step of the counting process after "initial count".
In the future, I think, we should consider to amend our election-related articles with a few sentences on the voting system used. - Xbspiro (talk) 03:53, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. Many places, like New South Wales, have quite confusing voting systems. Commemorative1 (talk) 04:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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