Talk:Main Page/Archive 26

Shouldn't the main lede be changed since it is inaccurate?

Should wikinews be featuring an article with an incorrect headline, with figures that the police have retracted? Mattisse (talk) 23:31, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

• Yes; when there's an accurate replacement. Any more advice on how to suck eggs? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 23:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

• Do you consider that a constructive reply? Mattisse (talk) 01:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

• No, it's sarcasm. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 01:05, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

[1] Sarcasm - "harsh or bitter derision or irony." also "a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms." Mattisse (talk) 18:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

? --Ergom (talk) 12:54, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

? Agree. Ask a question here and you get sarcasm. Mattisse (talk) 13:08, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Ergom — the above exchange may be puzzling, taken out of context. Brian McNeil recently warned Mattisse against poison-pen denigration of Wikinews and its contributors. It may also be helpful to note that on Brian's first, serious reply, his appended question is a sarcastic allusion to a traditional saying. His second reply, I would characterize as irony. --Pi zero (talk) 17:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The fact that Brian McNeill's comments need to be explained indicates that perhaps he should work on his communications skills. Not every one on this site is from the UK or even have English as their first language.

All I asked is that should the main story, on the main page be an inaccurate one. I think that is a reasonable questions. "Brian McNeil recently warned Mattisse against poison-pen denigration of Wikinews and its contributors." I think the constant repetition of this by you and others is also poison-pen denigration of Mattisse, Pi zero. I am so sorry you contribute to the "pile on" that makes it so difficult to participate on this site. I at least apologized to Dendodge. Brian McNeil has never apologized to everyone. His "sarcasm" is lost on the global editors of this site. And he might be interested to know that sarcasm is a form of attack and is hostile in intent. Are you saying that his "sarcastic" reply "Any more advice on how to suck eggs?" was not hostile? Mattisse (talk) 17:59, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

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I feel a "Does humour belong in journalism?" essay may be in order. Sadly, you'd find far, far too many points in that which would cause offence. Drop this, drop your other campaigns against now-rectified issues, and stop creating a hostile atmosphere by demanding special consideration because you've spewed a firehose of synthesis output.

You're being disruptive. Again. You're demanding special treatment. Again. You're responding with a ten-to-one ratio to every response that you're not prepared to accept, or seemingly feel fails to give you due deference. The latter ain't going to happen, so get over yourself. You're getting close to causing Saint Pi of Zero to crack and bluntly read you your list of character defects as-demonstrated on-wiki.

Either move on, or follow through on your "I ain't going to contribute anymore" threat (for what? the fourth, fifth, or sixth time?) And, if you are going to cease contributing then include sniping at people on talk pages too.

This is Wikinews; contributors have neither the time, nor inclination, to engage in count-the-angels-on-a-pinhead debate. If that's what you want, then go beg access to Wikipedia again, which you state you were going to get.

We have our fallings-out, then we pick ourselves up and work on, trying not to hold grudges. If you can't work in a community like that, then don't disrupt it. I'm still a 'crat because I'll call people like you on your bullshit. The long-term community isn't scared of me, as some on Wikipedia mis-characterise the situation here; I suspect many welcome me acting as a lighting rod and telling individuals like yourself when you've worn out the welcome mat. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 02:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Sarcasm is hostile "humor"

I think a great deal of the "poison pen" stuff would be reduced if not eliminated if sarcasm were not used. See sarcasm

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Please stop the sarcasm here and in other areas referring to me. It causes a poisoned atmosphere. Mattisse (talk) 13:56, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree. --Ergom (talk) 14:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

That is as may be; however, that is my style and it is by-and-large accepted here. Most people know that I will adopt such curt responses where it is a waste of time to engage in Wikipediaesque angels-on-a-pinhead counting. You, Mattisse, greatly try my patience on that point. Nobody has the time for the lengthy debates Wikipedia is notorious for; there's work to be done, and I'm just in the door with several megabytes of embargoed material for a special report. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 16:19, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

P.S.

Mattisse, do you make a habit of violating the copyright of dictionary.com? Were you not aware that there is a nearby, freely-licensed, lexicon? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 16:21, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Are you not aware that I gave the source of my material? That is not violating copyright. Mattisse (talk) 17:59, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it is. If it were licensed under a CC-BY licence, it would not be. But it is all rights reserved, so it is. Otherwise we could just copy articles from the BBC, and be OK as long as we listed them as a source. DENDODGE George Watson 23:44, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Just because some discussion can be a waste of time I would suggest you enhance your style. Besides, wikipediabashing does not help either. --Ergom (talk) 17:16, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

P.S.

Besides, the work to be done phrase is a killer phrase - in wikipedia it is at least somehow true. but here ... there are plenty of free news articles out there, especially in english. What is lacking is free neutral articles, high quality articles, in depth articles ... quality rather than quantity ... --Ergom (talk) 17:16, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Ergom, don't get drawn into other people's "tilting at windmills". And, take the repeatedly-given advice that much of what's been raised here recently does not belong. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 16:25, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewing binge

We all need to go on a reviewing binge ASAP. There's too many articles in the queue.--William S. Saturn (talk) 03:47, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

We've been on a reviewing binge for the past several days.

This is another University of Wollongong class; from user pages, it's a class in media law and ethics. I think they heard from last semester's class about our high standards, so got started early. Discussed in this thread; an excerpt:

We want students under no illusion that we'll copyedit the living daylights out their stuff. It has to be 90%+ of the way to publishable. David Blackall is actually absolutely delighted with the results of the Spring semester. Yeah, lots of students got "hard knocks" - he wanted that ;-) --Brian McNeil / ^talk

--Pi zero (talk) 05:22, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Tumblr

Would anyone object to me (or someone else) adding a link to the Wikinews Tumblelog next to the other social networking buttons above the latest news feed? Tumblr is a popular service, and it's growing, so we could potentially boost our readership quite a bit by better publicising our blog there.

Right now, it just posts links to our stories, on a delay, and often misses some, but it's better than nothing. Tom Morris said that he intends to work on a way to push our feed their more reliably and with a much shorter delay. But it's obviously not high on his priorities list - nor should it be - so I don't know how long it will take, if it ever does get done.

In addition to that, it can be a cool way for us to highlight our very best content - posting photosets, quotes, excerpts from our best articles, etc., is rather easy, and I have trialled it a couple of times. Right now, we only have 11 followers, which isn't many, but given that very few people even know our Tumblelog exists, I think it's enough to show that there is an interest.

On a related note, if anyone has a Tumblr account, drop your email address in my ask box and I'll add you to the group blog ;) DENDODGE George Watson 18:02, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

• With our Facebook feed non-functional, and us now - supposedly - using the Google News Sitemap extension, we should look at revamping the whole lot. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

  Tumblr already imports from GNSM. The problem is Tumblr-side, in that it only scans the feed once a day and extracts only the latest article each time. From what I know (I may be wrong), Tom's plan is to make a script to push the stories to Tumblr, rather relying on Tumblr scraping our feed. DENDODGE George Watson 18:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Orthography

There is a little mistake on the Main Page concerning NSW Supreme Court upholds non-publication order for lawsuit filed against Australia's richest person: the name is Gina Rinehart, not Gina RInehart! --House1630 (talk) 12:10, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

No News is WikiNews?

Seems like WikiNews has really slowed down lately—10 articles in the last 11 days, and not a single Article since October 1? Frankly, the Wikipedia Main Page has been a much better news source than WikiNews lately. What's going on around here, folks? 109.246.254.186 (talk) 00:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

There was a discontent among editor which led to a fork (theopenglobe.org), so i guess the slow down might simply be a result of less editors. The fork is already covering the strike and unfolding events in the Italian wikipedia, maybe they are more active than wikinews.--Kmhkmh (talk) 09:17, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

What was the discontent about? It always seemed to me that there was a lot of hostility to new contributors here; I wrote a couple of articles, but the process has really put me off from contributing more. I may not have been the only one. 109.246.254.186 (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Where is the OCCUPY WALL STREET coverage??? Good Grief 96.45.6.215 (talk) 17:50, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

No coverage at all of the Voter Suppression/Electoral Fraud aka Robocalls Scandal in Canada.....nothing I see on the front page here is actually NEWS. Not for anywhere. If this is ever to be a serious news organ, it needs major reforms and yes some incitement to easy participation, not endless vetting, so the news is timely and on-point and RELEVANT. - Skookum1, so alienated from Wikipedia I may never log in again other than to check for messages.

Italian Wikipedia shutdown

Is there a reason why there is no mention here in the last 2 days of the Italian Wikipedia shutdown? Jane023 (talk) 08:30, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

We aren't a blog or a wikimedia-internal newsletter — by which no offense is meant, but on one hand, an article would have to meet our publication standards and pass a rigorous peer review to be published —those [evidently, thus far,] interested in writing on that subject are unfamiliar with our site, and there is a steep learning curve for newcomers (over-commitment to a particular story is likely to interfere with one's ability to learn the site)— and on the other hand, being related to wikimedia does not increase its newsworthiness (which must be established by other means) and does present possible problems for avoiding conflict of interest. The COI problem may be insurmountable, as COI includes appearance of COI. One of the much-reduced number of active Wikinewsies (after the fork) has actually resigned from all wikimedia projects over the foundation's actions in this matter. It would be a daunting exercise in WN:NPOV even if the appearance of COI could be avoided. Also, nobody has tried; no article has been written and submitted to us for review. A stub was started some time back, which is woefully inadequate on many (most?) counts, and some of its shortcomings have been pointed out via tags/notes, but no [little] attempt has been made to improve it. --Pi zero (talk) 11:46, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Visual Editor for WIKINEWS?

Whats Time is Premiere? 94.125.164.114 (talk) 16:27, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki

{{editprotected}} Please add [[nl:Hoofdpagina]]
Whaledad (talk) 13:25, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

• Declined. The Netherlands edition of Wikinews is closed and locked (see here). Were steps taken for it's reopening, I'd be delighted to add the interwiki. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:12, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
• Please insert [[id:Halaman utama]] for our language, thanks for all ^talk 07:57, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Headline for Karger interview

The headline "Wikinews interviews first openly gay, U.S. presidential candidate" should not have a comma in it. 86.149.207.240 (talk) 12:32, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

You're right, of course, but moreover the article had been renamed (which we keep to a minimum post-publish, but I can't complain in this case). I've updated the lead. Thanks. --Pi zero (talk) 12:40, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Everything is original

Everything on the front page is original. Good job to everyone.--William S. Saturn (talk) 16:20, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a great achievement guys. :) Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 16:32, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

tamil wikinews interwiki link

hi.. please add tamil wikinews ([[ta:முதற் பக்கம்]]) interwiki link in the main page. thank you..--Shanmugamp7 (talk) 05:57, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

• Done Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 11:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Interlanguage in wrong order

el:Κύρια Σελίδα and fi:Etusivu interlanguage links are in wrong order. -- Codicorumus  « msg 18:13, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

• Done, although I've never really understood why it's important. (But I seem to be in a minority of one.) Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 18:16, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

ok can i maybe like get to edit a page

no news on india but this website is really amazing

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Language

In the Wikinews needs you section, some type box is in Turkish.

• Errr, are you referring to the main page?

There are links in the left side-bar to all language versions of the project; so, yes, you'd probably see something in Turkish. If you mean somewhere else, please give a link to that page or use it's talk page to highlight the problem. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 11:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

wikinews news?

I think -wikinews this wikinews that- is getting to me. (Wikinews interviews etc etc, so it is not news, it is an 'interview' of sorts). Can we have an 'any language RECENT news page, main/top cover page to all languages wikinews recent contributions a snapshot to wikinews activities of the world without concerns to lanquage sorting? It may be a first but somebody's gotta do it.

If the readers are not polyglots one can always use a translation program. Let us have the pulse of the world from local news producers. The new found equality may encourage participation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.126.50.234 (talk • contribs) 14:29, 21 December 2012

If you wish to question newsworthiness of any of our articles, the place to take that up would be the talk pages of those articles. (I certainly wouldn't agree that interviews, as a class, aren't news — many of our featured articles, the best news we've produced, are interviews; but I digress.)

This is English Wikinews. We provide interwiki links to the main pages of our esteemed sister Wikinews projects in other languages. But each language sister is different — we have our review mechanism with our review standards, for instance, so we couldn't simply publish articles from other languages without doing our own review even if we could get good translations of them.

Have you any idea how mind-numbingly horrible automatic translations are, btw? A sentence that says 'the prime minister was stabbed in the head by the ambassador' might well be an autotranslation of a sentence saying the amdassador announced that the prime minster had a headache. --Pi zero (talk) 15:17, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

• An interview is not a news story as-such. But, it still usually ticks all the boxes to qualify as news.

Machine translations are utterly unacceptable, they lead phrases such as "out of sight, out of mind" to become "unseen idiot". --Brian McNeil / ^talk 15:33, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

• IP, Take my advice - I wouldn't question anything here, take it from me. You might get accused of being a troll and have to prove otherwise. Humblesnore (talk) 21:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

You're under no obligation to prove otherwise. Which is just as well. --Pi zero (talk) 21:20, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

It might actually be reasonably feasible to do this with wikinews.org (vs en.wikinews.org). There might be some technical issues that would complicate things a bit, but if their is consensus for the change it should be possible. m:Talk:Www.wikinews.org_template with links on the various water coolers would be the best places to suggest it--Cspurrier (talk) 21:38, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

new time code

Please go to Template:Main page header

Hi could you someone please replace this so that the time doesent say for example 1500 so it should say 15:00

{{CURRENTDAYNAME}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}, {{#time:Hi|{{CURRENTTIME}}}} ([[w:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]])</div> with <div style="margin-top: .5em; font-size: 90%;">{{CURRENTDAYNAME}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}, {{CURRENTTIME}} ([[w:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]])</div></div>

Please

46.4.62.16 (talk) 21:24, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Not done No colon is used when specifying UTC. --Pi zero (talk) 19:23, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Next and back page

Hi I would like suggest that someone add next and back page so that it will shows all the news when click next and back can go to the previous page for example next shill show a page with 20 news articles on it with links to the page and so on with the next and next page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 188.227.180.2 (talk • contribs) 11:28, 23 March 2013

I've been working for some time on some software tools that, well may make this possible. Eventually. --Pi zero (talk) 11:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

ok 217.39.14.110 (talk) 17:52, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Too many dead people

What has been all of the focus on dead people recently? I don't get it. Why can't we do something about the gun control debate in the United States or immigration reform or something besides dead people? --XndrK (talk) 17:05, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey

What ever happened to the old Wikinews? Is pi zero the only contributor left? What ever happened to BarkingFish, Brian McNeil and Blood Red Sandman??? I miss those days. 2602:304:CD00:94A9:3485:68B9:87C2:B67D (talk) 21:08, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

The remaining contributors must be Australian and Scottish, we never lack any news from those lands. 63.82.23.2 (talk) 00:39, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Breaking News?

So, does Wikinews--which is today featuring as "breaking news" a story which happened more than 24 hours ago--define breaking news as anything that has happened over the last month? 76.106.149.108 (talk) 19:05, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Since the article was published more than 24 hours ago, it is indeed time to remove the breaking tag.

Our definition of breaking is that the article has been published but meaningful changes are reasonably likely; and such changes cannot occur more than 24 hours after publication per our archiving policy. --Pi zero (talk) 19:21, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Princess Kate baby story

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Duchess_of_Cambridge_gives_birth_to_boy --Thebirdlover (talk) 21:16, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Hungarian WikiNews

The main page doesn't offer the hungarian link in the Languages box.--Hubalu (talk) 12:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Er. I'm looking for the language code for Hungarian (I almost remember it...). --Pi zero (talk) 13:02, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes, Now I remember. Hungarian Wikinews was closed and locked, so its interwiki was removed, some time back. --Pi zero (talk) 13:10, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

If there is interest in opening it again, that should be taken to lang-comm probably with a request to move it back to incubator and then move forward from there. --LauraHale (talk) 13:44, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

mangled 'main' section template insertions

It appears that the section templates at the bottom of the main page have mismatched class and template names; i.e. 'main write' template has class 'main_popular', 'main featured' template has class 'main_write', and 'main popular' template has class 'main_devel'. This last case causes a glitch in the main page display, so that brackets are shown instead of a list of articles. Bcharles (talk) 16:28, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

The display problem for 'main popular' list has been resolved, but the class and template mismatches are still there. This likely has other consequences. Bcharles (talk) 18:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Swedish Wikinews no longer active

Per consensus at sv:Wikinews:Pressrummet#Dags att stänga svenska Wikinews (Google translation, scroll down to last section), the Swedish Wikinews is no longer active. I therefore ask you to consider removing the interwiki link to the Swedish Wikinews at the Main Page. /HeyMid (contributions) 18:07, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

This all appears to be based on the completely false supposition that a news wiki not currently producing output loses its value. No way would we be party to propagating such a falsehood. --Pi zero (talk) 22:49, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Propagating? The project has been open for eight years, but due to longer periods of inactivity, the users who have commented in the Pressrummet discussion agree that the project should be considered inactive. I'm not gonna comment on the likelihood of the project raising in activity in the future, nor do I intend to continue arguing for the sake of removing the link. /HeyMid (contributions) 09:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

• Wikinews is not Wikipedia, which I note is the project you prefer contributing to.

A news-based project doesn't have more cooks fiddling with the deckchairs on the Titanic than you can shake a stick at; that, despite your Wikipedia-centric world-view, does not make the project dead.

Let me put this as a 'thought experiment': If you were told you'd three days to write each article on the Swedish Wikipedia, and could make no changes after those three days, do you think the project would be 'active' as you define it? No. Not until there was agreement a new article was needed.

We won't be removing any inter-project links, thank you! How else do you expect svWN to stand a chance of getting potential contributors? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 22:58, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

}} }}

I see }} }} somewhere in the Main Page. PiRSquared17 (talk) 19:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Capitalization rules consistency

The top blue "Welcome to Wikinews" bar is the only place where Wikinews uses title case capitalization (e.g. "Our Mission"). Furthermore, it is inconsistent with the text row itself ("Copy us" is sentence case capitalization, not title case capitalization). I suggest that sentence case capitalization be applied there just as it is on all Wikimedia projects ("Report breaking news" for example). --TheLazyDog (talk) 03:52, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Another small detailed, I just noticed that "Main Page" should be renamed "Main page" as well.--TheLazyDog (talk) 03:54, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, "Main Page" versus "Main page" doesn't seem to matter particularly since one redirects to the other and neither appears when looking at the page. I tend to agree about the title case on the bar, though of course several of those don't change because the only later word is "Wikinews". --Pi zero (talk) 05:05, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• I've edited the relevant template for the main page, just needs sighted once someone else has cast an eye over it. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:28, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• Thank you. That looks much better now.

• I was just referring to the Wikipedia sidebar, where every text string is sentence case capitalized, including "Main page". However, the main page itself is named "Main Page". I guess the sidebar text string could be edited then? --TheLazyDog (talk) 21:43, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Probably. I'd expect it to be somewhere in MediaWiki: space. --Pi zero (talk) 22:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• I think I found it. "mainpage|mainpage" should become "mainpage|Main page" to fix this minor issue.--TheLazyDog (talk) 23:30, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• Oh, cool. Only... now that I'm looking at the page, I suspect it's not that simple. If the second part of that line were really what one wants to change, wouldn't its preexisting value be what we see now? A more common pattern would be, I think, that each of those strings is naming another page in MediaWiki: space where the corresponding value is to be found. My guess is that "Main Page" is some sort of default, if the appropriate MediaWiki: page doesn't exist. But I'd really like to find an example somewhere to show what I ought to be doing, so I don't blunder about in the dark changing MediaWiki: pages and wondering why it doesn't do what I thought it would. --Pi zero (talk) 00:17, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• Well, I've fixed it. I don't entirely understand why what I did fixed it, but it is fixed. Basically, I noticed that the sidebar at Commons says "Main page", and imitated what their MediaWiki:Sidebar did with that line. It seems to be getting the description now from MediaWiki:Mainpage-description; only, I'd expected to have to create that page, and instead it seems to be there without actually being there. --Pi zero (talk) 00:29, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• Thank you very much, that's much better now.--TheLazyDog (talk) 02:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

"Article" should be "Main Page"

The top tabs on the Main page are "Article", "Collaboration", "Read", "Edit", "Add comment" and "View history". I think it doesn't make a lot of sense that the Main page is named "Article". We should rather name it "Main Page", just like on Wikipedia, Wiktionary, etc.--TheLazyDog (talk) 02:24, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Mm. Kind of a tall order. I gather we're not supposed to use page-specific css, MediaWiki:Common.css/Main Page. I suppose it could be done with an opt-out gadget, hooked into MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition.

One wonders how Commons [...] achieves the effect. --Pi zero (talk) 02:32, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm not seeing "Add comment" (and would hope not to :P) BRS ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 02:50, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

If the Copenhagen suspect was dead...

...then why did police shoot him?

Joking. Sort of. Weird headline. Memento Morty (talk) 13:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

@Memento Morty: Yeah, I reviewed that one, and wondered if I'd be justified in changing the headline, but a reviewer tries not to make big changes, and the small change I considered — "Police kill suspect in Copenhagen attacks" — sort-of made me think of police killing someone while in custody, which isn't what's meant either. Headlines can be remarkably tricky, partly because one doesn't have a lot of time to think about it. --Pi zero (talk) 14:19, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I have problem with win internet

Next updating win vista Internet Exlorer 11 internet program that page seems awfully. The same way as this site [url=]about electronics[/url]

Commenting for archivebot purposes BRS ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 20:15, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikimania 2015 scholarships

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