Talk:Wikinews 2014: An 'Original reporting' year in review

Accepted

Here are the reasons the articles used in this article were selected:

• UK media apparently conflict with Scots law in Mikaeel Kular case (& follow-up) [Detailed analysis on legal problems facing the media]
• Cold as ice: Wikinews interviews Marymegan Daly on unusual new sea anemone [FA]
• Warhol's photo legacy spread by university exhibits [FA]
• Wiki loves the European Parliament in Strasbourg [FA]
• Wikinews interviews specialists on Russian intervention in Ukraine [Five top experts and detailed analysis. Would likely pass FA nom.]
• Presence actually at the Paralympics [Huge stash of first-hand accounts from the Games]
• Glasgow cannabis enthusiasts celebrate 'green' on city green [Reasonably detailed account backed with photos, from actual attendance by two reporters]
• Wikinews wanders the Referendum-year Edinburgh Festival Fringe [FA]
• Wikinews interviews Kristian Hanson, producer-director of indie horror film 'Sledge' [Lengthy, detailed, and fun; may pass FA nom]
• Wikinews interviews Australian wheelchair basketball player Tina McKenzie [Solid candidate for FA nom]
• Category:2014 Women's World Wheelchair Basketball Championship, European Deaf Swimming Championships, and Category:Sunshine Coast Rugby Union season presence [Good multi-article series] [Maybe do one bumper entry for all the sport, to fairly expose while avoiding oversaturation]
• Death of captive rhino halts propagation efforts in US [Comments (& video!) from expert at the heart]
• 300 protesters greet Farage's return to Edinburgh [Photos, videos, and details aplenty from the scene]
• Wikinews interviews Australian wheelchair basketball coach Tom Kyle [Another very detailed potential FA]
• Edinburgh's 'Million Mask March' flies distinctly Scottish colours [Very large photoessay, even if light on the intro]
• The deaths of Adrianne Wadewitz and Cindy Ashley-Nelson (uncertain) [Navel-gazing, but poignant and not noticed by mainstream] [Accepted after reviewing the article once all firm acceptances were in and deciding space was readily available]
• Glasgow-Oban and Mallaig train diverted onto wrong track in points mixup (very uncertain; pure OR however) [Hyper-local; but, we had a reporter actually on-board] [As above]
• Western Australian school performance undisrupted by WBC [Short but I like how the reporter called WBC on their bullshitting] [As above]
• Small protest seeking justice for victims of Franco held in Madrid [The photos give a great overview, less compelling than the Scot protests though] [As above]
• Anti-budget protest decends on Brisbane Australia [As the Madrid protest]

Rejected

The following were longlisted, but rejected for the reasons given

• Claire Tiltman murder: Prosecutors mull charges in notorious English crime (uncertain) [Reject: Nice OR, but nothing earth-shattering. Much is synthesis.]
• Indiana legislators vote for state constitutional ban on same-sex marriage (uncertain) [Reject: Cool quotes but again nothing really cool.]
• Rail border between the Ukraine and Russia remains open [Reject: Relatively straightforward OR] [Later accepted as one part of the Paralympic series]
• Glasgow inmate John Clark accused of murder in Barlinnie prison (uncertain) [Reject: The OR was relatively simple]
• Russia Crimean action protests held outside Downing Street in London [Reject: Short, we missed the main protest]
• Hamilton wins 'incredible' Bahrain race, F1's 900th Grand Prix (uncertain)[OR definitely adds a lot of vaue to the archive but ultimately nothing outstanding]
• 20th edition of FIB music festival begins (uncertain) [very short]
• Thousands attend skateboarder Jay Adams funeral over Labor Day weekend (uncertain) [Reject: Much more synthesis than OR]
• Wikinews interviews Asaf Bartov, Head of Wikimedia Grants Program and Global South Partnerships (uncertain) [Reject: Navel-gazing (very good to have published, however)]
• Multiple fatalities in bin lorry crash in Glasgow, Scotland [Although it's an eyewitness quote, it was simply lifted from fb]
• Researcher discovers 39 new cockroach species, increasing genus Arenivaga fivefold [Short but the OR is at least central] [Reject: On closer inspection OR is minimal. Should not have made longlist.]

Heaven Sent Gaming interview

I'm left with one problematic item:

• Wikinews interviews Mario J. Lucero and Isabel Ruiz of Heaven Sent Gaming [Nice! But the talk leaves me uncomfortable - "There's content here that probably would have made quite a good article if it had been presented substantially unadorned about a month ago."]

I'm very uncertain as to if we should use this or not. Thoughts appreciated. BRS ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 12:11, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

For the two-way conversation about that article (versus the mostly-one-way concerns in successive review comments), see User talk:Gownirony. --Pi zero (talk) 13:25, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

• No. There was always that "smacks of publicity" — albeit done mostly-correctly about it. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:30, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Paralympics

I'd suggest rolling up the paralympics presence into a single piece, and doing a 'retrospective synthesis' from all the reports. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:31, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

• Having refactored the headings, and seeing sport at the back (just like a newspaper), what are thoughts on doing the same to other sport articles in this? i.e. have the Jan 3rd interview 'introduced as' prep for the paralympics reporting - carried out in January - as an opening on the sports section? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:36, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Flows nicer that way than I was expecting. BRS ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 16:21, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Presentation

I think the presentation on this is going to need a lot of work. For a start, the TOC needs shrunk and floated (right-side) so people are straight into the body of the article. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:35, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

• I'd definitely retitle this, but not come up with a definitive alternative yet. In-itself, this is most-certainly navel-gazing; but, I think it is fully-justified. There are UK national newspapers publish less original reports in a year than already selected for this article.

As a suggestion for the title: "Wikinews' 2014, in original reporting". --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:02, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

I was hoping to figure out how to have ToC collapsed by default. With three of us now firmly backing this, I suppose this has left the realm of the 'possible'. BRS ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 16:25, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

• TOC collapsed-by-default will require a little Javascript (I believe). Then it'd be a parameter on the template(s) to activate it.

Chucking it on one side was the best I could come up with, and makes it more in-keeping as almost-content. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 16:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

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Don't think we need, nor want, the collapsed ToC now. Could perhaps do with a couple more images, but I think this looks purty now. It will need copyediting somewhat more, plus captions double-checked (found one with "last 'day-of-week'"). --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:48, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikimention

I think we could do with either a smaller section-aimed wikimention template, or a one-off template for (footer?) of the article. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 16:55, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

size=small parameter sounds useful. BRS ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 17:02, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Review of revision 3118962 [Passed]

Revision 3118962 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 19:14, 24 December 2014 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: None added. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 3118962 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 19:14, 24 December 2014 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: None added. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.