User talk:KeneeMichelle22

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Six people arrested in UK hacking scandal

Hi. I assessed this as not-ready. See the review comments, and history of edits during review.

I tried my best to write review comments that might help you further along your way up the (admittedly steep) learning curve of Wikinews writing. I do hope they're useful. --Pi zero (talk) 18:23, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

US Secret Service agents face investigation for Colombian sex scandal

KeneeMichelle22,

Please be more careful when submitting an article. The country name is misspelled; it is Colombia and NOT Columbia. The article sounds as if the Colombians are under investigation by the United States, too. These are a few basic issues that should have been dealt with before ever submitting in the first place. But when an editor delivers a "Not ready" sign, you shouldn't just do minor tweaks and resubmit. Editors will be less responsive to you in the future if you keep doing this, which will make it even harder for you to be published. It's like crying "Wolf," when there is no wolf. Address all issues from now on. You can even leave a message on the talk page and say what you've changed. If you do have a questions about the review -- and this happens, I know from first-hand experience -- you can either post a question on the article talk page or write an editor.

My point is not to make you "shy" about submitting, it's too make sure that you're "sure"! Go back to work and achieve good things, ok. Crtew (talk) 18:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Besides the basic spelling and factual issues, I have a hard time seeing how you'll publish this because the sources are so old now and you're not looking for the freshest information. Some of these articles definitely need older sources to give background or context. But the lead should be based on the most current info. The classic statement about journalism is, "Yesterday's news is today's history." History is where Wikipedia comes in.Crtew (talk) 18:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm in 100 percent agreement with both editors on this. The first thing I thought when I saw this is, Change the headline! If you do what Pi suggested and put as many 5ws and hs in your lead as possible, then you wouldn't have had the accuraccy issue. Pay attention to evidence. Journalism is evidence driven. Information comes from somebody. Connection the source with the information for attribution purposes.Crtew (talk) 18:48, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Crtew, Because of staleness do you think that i should let this article go?

No, I didn't say you should quit the piece, but the sources you're using are now 2 or 3 days old, while new information is what you focus on and the incident itself becomes background. The news is what is new. I just did a quick search and the new information is that 20 women may have been involved in the incident (as of a few hours ago). My basic point, which is what I believe the editors were saying, was that the article needs more work.Crtew (talk) 19:15, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

okay thanks.

I just re-did my article do you mind looking over it before i submit it for review again

Take a look now Crtew (talk) 01:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

thanks for all your help i just read over it and submitted it for review again

Let's talk about this tomorrow, but there are several things I want to point out now for your comparison of before and after: 1) The new angle is brought up to the top and frames the rest. The old and least important is taken to the bottom. 2) The lead has as many of the 5ws and hs as the audience needs to know. 3) There is flow, so that all like info is grouped together and transitions lead the reader from point to point. 4) The piece is put together as a package and presented to the reader as almost ready to publication as possible. We'll go over this tomorrow. Crtew (talk) 03:26, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

KONY

Can you give me a heads up before you submit the KONY story. Leave a message on my talk page. I want to redo the video.Crtew (talk) 02:24, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

KONY

KeneeMichelle22, I left comments on the KONY collaboration page. There's no rush to publish this since it's not time sensitive. Crtew (talk) 05:43, 29 April 2012 (UTC)