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Tempodivalse [talk] 04:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

World's oldest leather shoe found in Armenia

Hi. I looked over your edits to this article. Unfortunately, most of them are not publishable in the form that you made them. The article is a synthesis of the information in its sources, and its sources don't say most of what you submitted. We can make significant content changes to an article only within 24 hours of publication, and in this case additional sources would be needed (and in this case your edits were more than 24 hours after publication). After 24 hours, new developments require a new article. I realize this takes some getting used to; it's distinctly different from the way Wikipedia works! Thanks for your contributions. --Pi zero (talk) 13:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Argh. Yes, that is different than what I'm used to. I believe one major advantage a wiki-based online news system has over print-based news is that errata is corrected much more easily. I'm not entirely sure what constitutes a "significant change". I guess until I'm used to this I'll just edit and let the editors make the call. Thank you for your explanations. Owen (talk) 17:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, what constitutes "significant" changes can't help being something of a judgment call. I felt I should step back and let another reviewer make the call on your resubmitted edits with source, and I see they let them in. Well, it certainly wasn't a new development, after all. --Pi zero (talk) 20:43, 12 June 2010 (UTC)