User talk:Дмитрий Кошелев

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--Gryllida (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Re: Student Olympiad in Tyumen: the most difficult test for future neurosurgeons is English

Thanks for the story.

Please say, who did the original reporting and what notes did they take? --Gryllida (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

It would be great to know an answer to this question as soon as possible, Dmitri.

Хотелось бы знать, как именно вы производили репортаж: какую именно информацию вам удалось записать. Также было бы хорошо иметь перевод источников на английский язык. Эта информация нужна рецензенту как можно раньше, чтобы отрецензировать и опубликовать статью.

(Я говорю по-русски, но на данный момент времени не имею возможности произвести полный перевод. Если требуется, обратитесь за помощью с переводом к участникам русской Википедии или русских Викиновостей.)

To reply please click here. Gryllida (talk) 02:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Спасибо за помощь. Я записывал мини-интервью (сейчас загружу аудиофайлы на Викисклад), сделал все фото в новости, 4 дня переписывался с их пресс-секретарём для уточнения деталей (но переписку загружать не буду) и добавил к новости 2 блока (нашёл послание губернатора, нашёл про Угрюмова и Беляева). Переводы источников планирую разместить на СО новости, этого будет достаточно? - Дмитрий Кошелев (talk) 03:05, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Здорово. Спасибо за репортаж и оперативные ответы на вопросы. :-) Напишите, пожалуйста, на СО новости всю эту информацию на английском языке. Переписку с секретарём было бы здорово переправить на scoopwikinewsie.org, чтобы у рецензента была возможность проверить информацию — желательно вместе с переводом, если у Вас есть такая возможность; в противном случае рецензент попробует воспользоваться автоматическим переводом на ПК. --Gryllida (talk) 03:14, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Можете уточнить адрес электронной почты? Со scoopwikinewsie.org приходит возврат, других адресов не могу что-то найти. - Дмитрий Кошелев (talk) 04:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Ваше первое сообщение дошло до scoop успешно. Оно содержит переписку с секретарём. Спасибо! Пожалуйста, продолжайте отправлять Ваши следующие сообщения по тому же адресу.

(Администратор нашего почтового сервера временно недоступен, и починка этой проблемы может занять несколько недель.) Gryllida (talk) 01:22, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Благодарю Вас! - Дмитрий Кошелев (talk) 01:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Как Вы думаете, чего ещё не хватает новости, чтобы она получила одобрение? - Дмитрий Кошелев (talk) 14:10, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Появился срочный вопрос от рецензента на странице обсуждения статьи. --Gryllida (talk) 05:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Я только что осознала, что Вы уже ответили на этот вопрос. Извините! Gryllida (talk) 05:42, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

We're getting very close; I hope you'll bear with us a bit longer. I've invested quite a lot of review labor in it myself, after all, and it's quite interesting material. I've been holding off on asking you additional questions until I've fully processed those transcripts you've kindly provided; after all, the transcripts might clear everything up. --Pi zero (talk) 06:42, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Now published — congrats! — which means the clock is ticking on any adjustments to the substance of the article: we have 24 hours from the moment of publication, which was a few minutes ago now. Please see my list of things I didn't successfully verify in my final push to complete the review.

Cool article. Thanks for submitting, and for all your help with the review. --Pi zero (talk) 20:44, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Поздравляю :-) Gryllida (talk) 23:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

It's a real miracle! Thank you! - Дмитрий Кошелев (talk) 11:32, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Looking back, and forward

Alas, my own situation prevented me from review yesterday until the 24-hour deadline had passed (well, after all I too am a volunteer, it couldn't be helped, but it is unfortunate). If not for which, I could see from the comments you'd made on the talk page, I had leeway as reviewer with which to perhaps have made some restorations of passages I'd cut during the review.

Here are a few remarks on how to approach these sorts of things. These things would not, mostly, have prevented me from some action in this case, because I'd allow for it being your first experience with en.wn review; but I do feel they need to be pointed out, for the future.

• The review process for original reporting calls for extensive documentation, the more extensive the better, with as much verifying and authenticating value as possible. For example, it's especially desirable to forward emails to scoop, as this preserves all the information in the email headers. Any time a question arises of the form "should I also provide <x>?", the answer is almost certainly "yes"; and the goal should be to provide more documentation than necessary, and do so before submitting for review.
• If you want something changed after publication, the way to request the change is to edit the article. On this one occasion I would have acted on the comments on the talk page, but that's not the way the system is set up to work.

The material is great to have, to publish here and to preserve in our archives. I'm just thinking forward, to making the process work much more smoothly in future. Thanks for the submission and for all your help during the review process. --Pi zero (talk) 15:50, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

I also want to thank you for the great help in creating the news, and for your advice. - Дмитрий Кошелев (talk) 16:24, 8 May 2019 (UTC)