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-- Wikinews Welcome (talk) 14:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hello

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Hello @BilboBeggins

  • We have insufficient number of free reviewers currently, with article publishing at the rate of about one story a week at best. This is temporary and effort is ongoing to improve this situation.
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  • In both of your drafts, the 5W is not answered, or at least one of these 5Ws is not answered, in first paragraph. When possible, please modify the articles to include this information in the first paragraph. This is required for publication.
  • Ideally, the headline should include the name of the country, for the Canada story.
  • The article content is in the past tense. If the event was "the cat eats a mouse", the article is supposed to say "the cat ate a mouse", because this happened in the past. This seems to be an issue in both articles.
  • I did not leave this comment as a formal review because I did not check anything else; typically a review includes notes on each aspect of requirements rather than only one. Nevertheless the above mentioned notes are part of the requirements and I hope that you can help implementing them at your earliest convenience and this can help the article be approved sooner.

Please let me know if you need assistance.

Thanks, -- Gryllida (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

"We have insufficient number of free reviewers currently, with article publishing at the rate of about one story a week at best. This is temporary and effort is ongoing to improve this situation." — I would be willing to help with that.
I think that at least in article about ceasefire lede is adequate. The main things I covered: who, what, where, when is now, how and why.
The headline in Canada story is the same headline as in news outlets, but I can change and add something.
I actually thought that breaking news item exist so that anyone can alter and add news. The news about ceasefire is breaking, the events have great influence and ideally need to be added as soon as possible. Do you mean that there could be added more details on the context of event? But, first, context is known to the most, second, the article could cover events up to October 7 Hamas attack. So I didn't want to include too many events that would be out of the scope of article. And, basically, the aim of the initiative is to avert the war.
ut I don't know how to better put it.B BilboBeggins (talk) 15:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Was expecting you to make these changes as me doing it disqualifies me from reviewing.
Since that didn't happen, I just started to make the changes
fixed For France, US push for 21-day Hezbollah-Israel ceasefire in Lebanon I added country to headline, add a couple wikilinks, and change to past tense.
I'm stuck I didn't understand from sources what date, time, location or place this 'push' was delivered or in what manner (5W). The sources are confusing. Did not follow, cannot continue. was it general UN meeting or security meeting, did they meet at UN thing or outside nearby, etc. Hope you can assist further.
I'm stuck Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau passes confidence vote : conservatives are opposition, new-democratic didn't keep a promise, why is a PM from a third party (leader of 'liberal') involved in this? Did not follow, cannot continue. Hope you can assist further.
Regards, -- Gryllida (talk) 03:12, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Regarding ceasefire article. Isn't the most important here that there are diplomatic efforts that try to push ceasefire and prevent a war?
Is it relevant how this was communicated?
And we can not really know how they are done or through what channels there is communication.
I would say that the information given by Guardian and BBC is enough for understanding.
Push is not a single action, we can not write exact time. Regards, BilboBeggins (talk) 06:42, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yea "how" was it communicated is part of WN:5W, without it is unclear what the event was. Gryllida (talk) 10:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Second article:
I would say survives is a better word than passes because the motion can be passed. You can also pass threshold for vote, or a vote margin. BilboBeggins (talk) 06:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for wikification! BilboBeggins (talk) 06:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I added info about Liberal party in the beginning. However, saying "which was official opposition at the time" implies that it is not anymore. But it still is. BilboBeggins (talk) 06:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Agreed, verb tense in this part can be changed to present tense.
I am lost why there are 3 parties imvolved and 1 of them, while opposing another 1, tries to propose motion against prime minister who leads party 3.
Bddpaux you asked me recently does a topic matter. It is harder for me to follow this than to learn a new language. (The hardest ones are rugby scores, I thought, but this is even more confusing). Gryllida (talk) 10:59, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
It helped to read sources, at end of source 2 it says which parties are included in parliament and how many seats approximately and how they voted.
Added it as second paragraph.
I see now how the 3rd, 4th parties are involved.
This new summary in second paragraph is rough, there says that liberal voted No and Conservatives voted Yes and others voted No. Is it truly 100% of all others? It would be good to confirm this. Can you please help?
I am hoping with this information the article is easier to get for international audience. It is a requirement that specialised local phrases or concepts are explained.
It will be weekend and I will be away. I usually am. Sorry. Please keep watching this page and article, and its talk page, for updates. Gryllida (talk) 11:35, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yay, the Canada PM story got published. Congratulations!👏🥳😊 Regards, -- Gryllida (talk) 19:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! BilboBeggins (talk) 19:07, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Greetings

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Hi BilboBeggins

France, US push for 21-day Hezbollah-Israel ceasefire in Lebanon just deleted as abandoned. Main issue was I had no clue how this works. Where, how did they agree on this call. I am sorry. Please consider joining live chat -- hang around there 24/7, don't close the chat window -- as then communication can happen more quickly and such questions can be answered way before the article becomes stale.

Could you please write another story this week and leave me a message? I'm happy to help you with getting it published.

Many thanks!

Regards, -- Gryllida (talk) 04:25, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply