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pings

Why did

User talk:GryllidaTester3 this page ping me but

User:GryllidaTester3 this one didn't?

They both included a wikilink to my name.

cc @Leaderboard @Asked42

Thanks Gryllida (talk) 01:50, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Might be due to how the Echo extension works (i.e, might not work on userspace), but I'm not entirely sure. Leaderboard (talk) 05:04, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Leaderboard,

Thank you for your reply.

I'm asking in context of getting Echo notifications for new articles:

• To the interested users when a new article is created from the 'new article' template (Template:New page). I was hoping adding a user's wikilinked name to it, hidden, would sort that out. Now I don't understand how to do this properly, except probably with a python script which checks the recent changes each 5 minutes. The list of interested users is at User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Developing/Immediate.
• There is another set of users listed at User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review intended to be sent out either weekly or immediately (I haven't decided yet), with the contents of something similar to User:Gryllida/Newsroom included in the message.

For sending messages to talk pages it would be something similar to this message which was done manually. The page I could use to deliver the messages is Special:MassMessage.

For sending notifications via Echo only there is no built in way that I know of. I kind of run out of ideas how to automate this without a script that posts a long list of interested users' wikilinked usernames onto the article talk page?

If we decide to use a script, it would be good to publish its source, and host it at Toolforge, where one tool can be accessed by multiple maintainers in case one of them is away and is not available to look after the tool.

If possible, it would be good if there was something that can be built into the wiki so that a separate login is not needed to edit the tool.

Many thanks. Gryllida (talk) 05:11, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Try using a bot on a page that is on a different namespace, for instance? The bot edits can be hidden using the bot/flood flag, after all. Leaderboard (talk) 06:43, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Only messages that include a proper signature (with four ~~~~) will ping an editor. If there is no signature on the message, no ping will be sent. For more details, w:Help:Fixing failed pings. -- Asked42 (talk) 08:16, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

To enable pings in user namespaces, maybe we can use the __NEWSECTIONLINK__ magic word? I'm not sure whether it will work or not. -- Asked42 (talk) 08:27, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

This worked. I got the ping.

User:Gryllida/testing32 didn't work. :-( Gryllida (talk) 09:52, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

@Gryllida: This might be because we have to use '@' before the username to ping someone. Also, we need to use four tildes (~~~~) to sign the message. I pinged you on User:Gryllida/testing32, did you receive it? --Asked42 (talk) 12:04, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Yup I got it thanks, I will test this out in a bit Gryllida (talk) 20:14, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Feeds and collaboration

Hi Gryllida (talk) 11:26, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

If you use an rss reader, please share your rss feed reader name and platform (linux, windows, android, ios, mac) here. I would like to write some documentation about rss feed readers usage to get notified of new drafts and am looking for testers. Regards, Gryllida (talk) 11:29, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

PeP

Could someone please go through the list, or tell me how to do it without checking manually, of Reviewers and Administrators and list the time they were last active. I am thinking of taking some action wrt WN:PeP Thanks Gryllida (talk) 12:26, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

Copyvio detection bot request

Hi @Leaderboard

Could you please build a bot which posts the earwig copyvio checker report to article talk page each time an article is submitted for review? Even better if it can only check article body for plagiarism and not pick up headlines as a plagiarism, like it currently does.

It cannot post external article contents so maybe only draft contents with plagiarised phrases highlighted.

Ping all previous contributors to article when posting the report.

It would be good to host it at toolforge as then someone could join you as a second maintainer.

Many thanks. Gryllida (talk) 10:24, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Might be better to ask @The Earwig directly. Leaderboard (talk) 11:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

ok thanks let's wait for reply. though I thought that's website developer not for wiki reports? Gryllida (talk) 11:48, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

This is fine as long as the number of articles checked isn't too large (several per day?). There is an API you may use. The Earwig (talk) 15:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

thanks Gryllida (talk) 21:48, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Source code publishing

Hi @Leaderboard

There are a few software, for example archival bot. Could you please upload source code? Are they hosted at toolforge?

Thanks Gryllida (talk) 10:26, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

@Gryllida You mean my bot? Leaderbot runs on Toolforge/Cloud VPS for the most part, with the exception being AWB, which I run locally on my system. Leaderboard (talk) 11:43, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

does the bot require awb? Gryllida (talk) 11:48, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

No. Most of the bot tasks run on Python (and I plan to release the source code in due course). AWB is used for repetitive but one-time tasks. Leaderboard (talk) 15:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

yup thanks it would be great if everything that is running 'in production' was with published source as the site relies on it, and in case maintainer becomes away Gryllida (talk) 21:42, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Edited templates develop and review

Hello, I added link to plagiarism checker from the develop and review templates. hope it will be useful. Please let me know how it works for you? Gryllida (talk) 04:57, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

@Gryllida Where is your plagiarism checker? Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 15:07, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

See Child defaces abstract painting by Mark Rothko worth tens of millions on display in Dutch museum

It says at the top

This article is being developed. You can contribute or discuss its development.

If it is ready to be checked, you can .

This is not a way to ask others to expand or finish the article!

You should review discussion about this article, and verify original reporting notes are adequate. Click to add OR notes.

Copyright/plagiarism check: link (earwig).

Click on the link in the last line to view the plagiarism report.

Regards, -- Gryllida (talk) 01:28, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Issue with archival

Hi @Leaderboard How was this possible? Could Leaderbot archive (including protect from editing) everything 24 hours after publication, automatically, please? Gryllida (talk) 00:38, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

@Gryllida The bot hasn't been running automatically due to a couple of bugs reported at my talk page (which caused incorrect templates to be applied). I'll need to fix them first. Leaderboard (talk) 04:15, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi Leaderboard, thank you for replying. Which bugs are these? May I fix these bugs for you? Over a week when there is increasing number of foolish users is a bit concerning. Archiving articles is possibly a decent way to reduce load of vandalism fighting. Gryllida (talk) 04:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

@Gryllida See User_talk:Leaderboard#Archiving. To summarise: the problem is that the bot currently uses the date/time of the last edit in determining whether to, for instance, protect a page. As shown there, such an approach doesn't always work, which can result in cases such as incorrect templates applied, and more importantly, will result in the bot not protecting pages or otherwise taking action when it should. The fix is not difficult (the bot will need to figure out when the page has been published) - just annoying. I'll try to find some time to do this. Leaderboard (talk) 05:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Leaderboard

As there was increased vandalism of published articles recently, I made a script, and a tracking category for it (in article edit it links to script source). This category contains articles which I archived without checking anything else: I didn't check pending changes to them, and I didn't add 'archiveurl=' for sources; some of them are double archived because the Published category addition date for them was hijacked by something and they were in the 'February to April' range despite having been published earlier. I encourage you, or anyone else interested, to process and empty this category as these articles are checked for whatever else needs to be done other than protecting them.

If nothing is done in near future, I'll write a script which adds 'archiveurl=' to all sources within the articles in that category.

Have a good day. Gryllida (talk) 13:32, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Got it - but it may take some time for me to get to this. Leaderboard (talk) 14:36, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

@Gryllida Can you clarify more about the "archiveurl=" part? My script doesn't do that right now, and I'm wondering if I need to take that into account. Leaderboard (talk) 16:52, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Leaderboard

1) Apparently I overdid it, should have done over 7 days old. Now {{Main headlines}} is practically empty. I was sure it is 1 day old. :-(

2) Example:

• {{source

|url = https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58223231

|title = Afghanistan conflict: Taliban push into Kabul as Ghani flees

|author =

|pub = BBC News Online

|date = August 15, 2021

|archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20210815165730/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58223231

}}

I'm not sure why this archiveurl supposed included, it seems to show only in source and there is no user-facing output of it. I think someone mentioned it would be good to run our own instance and archive all sources. Was it @SVTCobra?

Hope it helps.

Regards, -- Gryllida (talk) 00:42, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

My feeling is that archiveurl is not important right now and that this can be done separately - is that right? Leaderboard (talk) 04:26, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Yup can be done later with some risk that some sources will be gone by the time this is started. But yes this can be done later. Gryllida (talk) 05:13, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

So how does this work usually? Do you manually get the web.archive link for that page? Leaderboard (talk) 06:10, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Yes someone used to do that manually a long time ago. Gryllida (talk) 06:12, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

OK got it. Meanwhile I think I've fixed the bugs in my script, but it seems like it doesn't need to do anything for a while. Leaderboard (talk) 10:05, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. May I please have ssh access as co-maintainer? I will, in case of needed changes, keep backups and notes on-wiki. I can program for wiki in python, node, perl, and javascript. Gryllida (talk) 11:57, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

See https://github.com/Leader-board/WMF-projects/tree/master/enwikinews Leaderboard (talk) 12:42, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Gryllida (talk) 11:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

┌──────────────────────────────────────────────┘
ArchiveURL can help recover lost source links. I am not aware of an automated process for this. User:InternetArchiveBot was proposed to assist, but its current status is unclear (see discussion here).

We possibly include ArchiveURL to support Wiki-wide developments, similar to this recent tech news update:

The Editing Team is working on making it easier to populate citations from archive.org using the Citoid tool, the auto-filled citation generator. They are asking communities to add two parameters preemptively, archiveUrl and archiveDate, within the TemplateData for each citation template using Citoid.

I am not aware of us using Citoid in relation to {{Source}}. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 14:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

We can't actually use Citoid with the Source template, as it is designed to automatically generate inline references, which are not used on here. Although we can use its API for similar functionality, to auto generate sources, like what this script does; But Citoid doesn't automatically generate archive URLs. Asked42 (talk) 18:10, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Moving a Page

https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/%22impact_yes%22

This page needs it's title rewritten, I guess. Avinashkuikel (talk) 18:14, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Moreover, this should be deleted. It's not a news story. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:54, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Done deleted as copyright violation Thanks Gryllida (talk) 19:45, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Review template is not replyable

When an article was reviewed, a new section is added at it talk/collaboration page. It does not have a signature. As a result, it does not have a clickable "reply" link for it. What would be a nice way to resolve this? Gryllida (talk) 10:24, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Add the signature code to the reviewing template? Leaderboard (talk) 11:25, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

If it works it would be very good, could you please add it? Gryllida (talk) 11:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

To add a signature after the review template, we can modify the variable reviewText at line 260 of easyPeerReview Gadget with the following code:

var reviewText = "<!-- " + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_comment + " --> \{\{" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_peer_reviewed + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_revid + "=" + r.EasyReview_revid + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_copyright + "=" + r.EasyReview_copyright_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_newsworthy + "=" + r.EasyReview_news_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_verifiable + "=" + r.EasyReview_sources_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_npov + "=" + r.EasyReview_npov_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_style + "=" + r.EasyReview_sg_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_reviewer + "=" + mw.config.get('wgUserName') + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_comments_field + "=" + r.EasyReview_comment + "|" + Bawolff.review_i18n.review_time + "=~~" + "~~" + "~}} \n--" + "~".repeat(4);

-- Asked42 (talk) 14:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon!

(Apologies for posting in English)

Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the old Graph extension was disabled in 2023 due to security reasons. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the Charts extension, which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the EasyTimeline extension.

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from May 6. Please, consult our page on MediaWiki.org to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also consult the documentation about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org, or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the talk page or at Phabricator.

Thank you in advance! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 15:07, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Seeking consensus to install mw:Help:Extension:Newsletter

There are three purposes: to announce published articles, to announce new drafts, and to announce new requests for revision, to interested wiki users. The announcements can be delivered via Echo, and are visible also when logged into a sister wiki. This extension provides an opportunity to do this automatically, and users subscribe or unsubscribe themselves on special page. To get started, consensus is needed here: do we want to add this extension on this wiki? Thanks. Gryllida (talk) 12:42, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Discussion (and ping any users who you think could be interested here)

This conversation has been marked for the community's attention. Please remove the {{flag}} when the discussion is complete or no longer important.

• Hi @George Ho @Wikiwide @BigKrow @Lofi Gurl @Back ache @Md Mobashir Hossain @Almondo2025, @Dsuke1998AEOS, @Ternera, @Monsieur2137 @Asked42, @Sheminghui.WU, @excelblue (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire here) A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please Subscribe to this section and to this talk page, and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below: 1. check discussion above and vote below --Gryllida (talk) 21:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes FranklySiva (talk) 16:02, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T394022 added. Gryllida (talk) 12:28, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Votes

• yes as i proposed above Gryllida (talk) 12:42, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
• Yes Seems safe enough to try. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:53, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support I ask that the extension be used in a truly opt-in style. No users should be added except, strictly by themselves. In the past with similar tools, a handful of users were added without their consent and that is not an "opt-in" or "subscribe" situation. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 14:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support Wikiwide (talk) 21:19, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support: This feature would be a significant step toward advertising complete and incomplete article for more editors, though I also support Michael's suggestion to make it opt-in. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 22:35, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support Lofi Gurl (talk) 00:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support ~ Sheminghui.WU (talk) 02:58, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support: Could be beneficial. For subscribing to published articles, some automation (perhaps a bot) could be useful. But that's a discussion for later. -- Asked42 (talk) 07:36, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support Why not? Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 12:07, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
• yes FranklySiva (talk) 09:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
• Note that the WMF has in the past refused to install Newsletter on wikis other than MediaWiki.org because they wanted it to be recorded to support interwiki newsletters first. So this may get declined once it's reported on Phabricator. But no harm in trying I guess. (Personally I think this is a stupid rule). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

  Doesn't Echo handle interwiki for it now? Gryllida (talk) 10:49, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Script to sort sources

In https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=India_and_Pakistan_agree_to_a_ceasefire_after_days_of_mutual_attacks&oldid=4857433#Sources the fresh sources should go first. I'd like to write a script to sort them. Have no clue how to even start. For a given section, how can I retrieve a list of templates? For a retrieved list of templates, how do I get list of their keys and values which were specified as parameters? cc @Leaderboard @Asked42 @Polygnotus Thanks Gryllida (talk) 20:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Fresh sources as in? The more recent, the newer? Leaderboard (talk) 06:29, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

source May 15, then May 14, then May 13, etc. the 'today' dated go first. Gryllida (talk) 11:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

New software request

Hello,

I'd like to request that someone writes a script which opens a dialog with a list of category members of 'Revision requested' category, for each member it goes through the article edit history and finds where a new section titled starting with 'RR:' was added and adds column with (i) stuff that is in section title after 'RR:' wikilinked to that section (ii) date of addition of that section (iii) nick of who added it (iv) link to article page.

I may be able to code something like this but I haven't started yet, so you're welcome to start now and/or share some pointers if you like. Thanks heaps Gryllida (talk) 20:49, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Propose to install Page Assessments extension at this wiki

https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PageAssessments?project=Main&namespace=0&page_title= has an example.

I propose to (mis)use this extension here by supplying class

R submitted for review

U under review

D draft in progress

T has pending tasks specified

...and event date as the importance parameter, followed by "G" symbol for international news like "windows died" or "ubuntu 24.4 released" or "L" for regional news, followed by "m" for minor edut required or "M" for major revision, followed by a custom note

Like: Class = D

Importance = 2025-05-14 G m add location in first paragraph

If submitted for review, importance just says event date and G or L

In the report, article is linked and its class as second column and its importance in column 3.

I think this would make the page assessment page more useful than the newsroom, and help to prioritise reviewing and collaboration.

cc @GreekApple123

Thanks. Gryllida (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @George Ho @Wikiwide @BigKrow @Lofi Gurl @Back ache @Md Mobashir Hossain @Almondo2025, @Dsuke1998AEOS, @Ternera, @Monsieur2137 @Asked42, @Sheminghui.WU, @excelblue (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire here) A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please Subscribe to this section and to this talk page, and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below:

Gryllida, RockerballAustralia, Michael.C.Wright, Bddpaux, JJLiu112

Hi all, please check above. I think you could be ones of the first users of this.

Please click "Reply" to the first message in this section to add a vote or a comment.

Consensus is required before the extension is installed here.

Thanks heaps. Gryllida (talk) 16:03, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Votes

Strong support I am guessing the devil is in the details, but something like this will add a lot of context. Hopefully it can be implemented in a way that allows for easy customization later on i.e. allowing readers to select articles based on their level of importance, etc. GreekApple123 (talk) 16:18, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

I support this idea currently as I spent obscene amounts of time every day checking dates of events in news room to prioritize. The easiest approach could be just to have one parameter 'event date' and nothing else. This would already be much better process for me. Gryllida (talk) 17:09, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Template requests

I will update this section with more template requests over time:

1. Excerpt (from Wikipedia): allows for essentially transcluding content from one article to another. Perhaps it could be possible to even transclude Wikipedia content to a Wikinews article? GreekApple123 (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

2. Would something like w:Template:Category redirect be appropriate here? This way, something like Category:Politics can continue to be empty, but at least exist as a redirect to the currently-used Category:Politics and conflicts.

3. Something like the series of w:Template:R with possibilities templates could be helpful as a way of creating redirects in the moment, but making it clear they can be developed further later. GreekApple123 (talk) 18:09, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

It is needed to understand that there is a scarcity of content writers and reviewers. Your assistance with that editing of articles is very welcome.

Wikipedia articles are written differently. Verb tense and inline citations and they do not do "attribution" as consistently and they do not follow "inverted pyramid". I would not recommend to transclude. They are very different contents.

I have no position on category redirects. It is less effort to just use existing categories. HotCat aurocompletes them anyway.

I have not seen a need in creating redirects. They consume time.

Hope it helps. Gryllida (talk) 20:54, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

There may be a use for transcluding a paragraph or two from Wikipedia (I'm guessing transclusion may not run afoul of copyright license incompatibility?), or at least transcluding between articles on Wikinews. GreekApple123 (talk) 21:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

From Wikipedia I dare you to find examples. Usually information is not included into article unless it is verifiable in sources, unless it is forever ever kkowledge like Paris capital of France. So if you are writing article about new Pope, you cannot put five pages from Wikipedia into a background section. It has to be sourced from something more specific than Wikipedia. Gryllida (talk) 22:03, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

From Wikipedia I dare you to find examples. Well, in the final section of the page I am editing about the India-Pakistan ceasefire, there is background offered on the Kashmir conflict. I think the first paragraph and one of the images from the Wikipedia article on that would offer a more comprehensive overview essentially. GreekApple123 (talk) 23:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are written differently [...] inline citations Just FYI, Excerpt allows for transcluding content while excluding all inline citations and references. GreekApple123 (talk) 04:00, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

That does not solve content. For example, verb tense. Gryllida (talk) 07:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

For article bits transclusion, I guess would need to be subst'ed as cannot edit a part of article after archival. Dunno value of it. With such as wars, the context keeps changing a bit too. Gryllida (talk) 21:49, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

@GreekApple123, regarding transcluding content between articles on Wikinews, it's technically possible—usually done by transcluding specific sections. However, since our articles rarely use subsections, this may require structural adjustments.

As for transcluding content from Wikipedia, we legally cannot do so. Our copyright licenses are incompatible: Wikinews uses CC BY 2.5, while Wikipedia uses CC BY-SA 4.0, which includes a ShareAlike requirement we do not support. The same applies in reverse—Wikipedia cannot reuse our content either.

Regarding category redirects, I think that’s a solid consensus compromise and provides a useful tracking mechanism. One concern to keep in mind: many pages here are edit-protected to admin-only. In my view, this often causes more issues than it prevents, especially given how few active admins we have to handle tasks like archiving, deletion, and counter-vandalism. As part of any category overhaul, I suggest we also reconsider our protection practices—possibly lowering some protections to allow editing by reviewers, or even auto-confirmed users, to ease the workload and improve flexibility. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 21:50, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Changing categories of archived articles is a bit of a problem. I will post here if I find a working solution. I presume content should not be changed. Gryllida (talk) 22:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

regarding transcluding content between articles on Wikinews, it's technically possible—usually done by transcluding specific sections. The Excerpt template allows for transclusion by paragraph (e.g. paragraphs 3 through 5), and so since archived articles don't change, it should be possible to excerpt from them in a stable manner.

The same applies in reverse—Wikipedia cannot reuse our content either. This seems to be somewhat contradicted by the WN:For Wikipedians page: ... content from Wikinews may be copied word-for-word to Wikipedia if proper copyright attribution is provided GreekApple123 (talk) 23:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

4. Extending the functionality of {{W}} so that if there is no link found either at Wikinews or at Wikipedia, then the link text instead shows up as regular text. GreekApple123 (talk) 17:31, 16 May 2025 (UTC)