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Regarding Categories[edit]

Hello. How does one create a new category? I would like to update and add in some new teams to the existing Category:Football (soccer) clubs page, but I don't exactly know how to create one. --Handraulic (talk) 10:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Handraulic. Adding categories isn't easy to do atm (pending long-term semi-automation improvements, of course).
You'd want to
(1) be sure the new category fits into our category system; some cats would be appropriate for an encyclopedia (for example) but not for a news site, or somewhat different names would be used here. There should be at least three published articles ready to go in the category; we don't usually create cats smaller than that (except by accident, and many of those we delete).
(2) Make a list of articles in our archives that should go into the new category. Put the list on some water cooler with an {{editprotected}} tag (with links to the articles); the request will have to be handled by an admin, and this should be an easier way to handle things than putting requests on the talk pages of all the individual articles — that was done with a massive request some months ago and we still haven't got the editprotected queue unclogged from it.
(3) The category page itself should eventually get a {{topic cat}} template, but doing that can be complicated, so alternatively you can temporarily just have the category page with its parent categories (as long as we're not talking about a whole lot of categories all at once). Eventually of course we want a semi-automated assistant for things like setting up {{topic cat}} (and other parts of this process).
There are probably hundreds of categories we could create because we have at least three published articles for each and no one of them would be controversial, but we can't do them all at once. Some of them would be quite difficult to figure out how to handle. We've been working for several years on improving things, and things have improved, a great deal. Everything became infinitely easier once we started using the {{w}} template (which I've been slowly retrofitting to our archived articles, working backward in time from when we started using the template). When we first created {{w}}, there'd be just a few local links in a typical article, now it's common for most of the links to be local. A particular notable step forward was when Blood Red Sandman created and populated a set of categories about nuclear technology (before which we only had one related category, on nuclear proliferation).
--Pi zero (talk) 11:44, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

OK. Copy that. Thanks for the reply. It all sounds quite complex, but I'll try to remember that for next time. I think I'll hang back a bit on the cats and just concentrate on updating the sport articles for the time being. --Handraulic (talk) 12:17, 6 May 2016 (UTC)


Hi. I can see that this project has old JavaScript that needs to be updated. I would happily make the required updates myself, but I would have to – at least temporarily – become an admin here to do that (because the relevant pages are in the MediaWiki namespace). I have already made these updates on a number of other projects, so it would be very easy for me to do this. If no one does anything, some JavaScript-related tools will break later this year. If you want me to make these updates, you can grant me admin rights and I will make the updates as soon as I can. Nirmos (talk) 22:02, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
@Nirmos: What needs doing? --Pi zero (talk) 22:13, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Compact Language Links enabled in this wiki today[edit]

Screenshot of Compact Language Links interlanguage list

Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). Based on several factors, this shorter list of languages is expected to be more relevant for them and valuable for finding similar content in a language known to them. More information about compact language links can be found in the documentation.

From today onwards, compact language links has been enabled as the default listing of interlanguage links on this wiki. Using the button at the bottom, you will be able to see a longer list of all the languages the article has been written in. The setting for this compact list can be changed by using the checkbox under User Preferences -> Appearance -> Languages

The compact language links feature has been tested extensively by the Wikimedia Language team, which developed it. However, in case there are any problems or other feedback please let us know on the project talk page. It is to be noted that on some wikis the presence of an existing older gadget that was used for a similar purpose may cause an interference for compact language list. We would like to bring this to the attention of the admins of this wiki. Full details are on this phabricator ticket. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team:--Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk) 07:29, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

If this does what it sounds like it does, it seems inherently damaging to the sisterhood. --Pi zero (talk) 11:13, 24 June 2016 (UTC)