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Switching or not switching to the Timeless skin by default[edit]

Drawing from the discussion above, this is a dedicated section to comment on the suggestion to switch to timeless skin by default. Preview; the relevant preferences pane. To make the outcome actionable it may be formatted as a vote. --Gryllida 07:46, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

I've been using Timeless for the last week and can say I am very fond of it. One aesthetic consideration is the logo at top, it's the word "Wikinews" written in the same font as Wikipedia's logo. Something should replace that for some distinction from the sister site. —mikemoral (talk · contribs) 08:24, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

disable visual editor for anonymous contributors[edit]

Do we want to set "VisualEditorDisableForAnons" to "true" to disable visual editor for anonymous contributors? Currently they are presented with a 'Switch to visual editor' or 'continue editing' welcome dialog at the time of creating a new page, and VisualEditor is poorly adapted to suit the news writing needs...

Interested people would still be able to log in and enable visual editor in an opt-in manner.

--Gryllida 00:25, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Seems a reasonable thing to do. --Pi zero (talk) 00:38, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
I strongly oppose it because of the reason provided. Let us not assume what “interested people” want.
•–• 02:40, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Global preferences available for testing[edit]

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Global preferences, a highly request feature in the 2016 Community Wishlist, is available for testing.

  1. Read over the help page, it is brief and has screenshots
  2. Login or register an account on Beta English Wikipedia
  3. Visit Global Preferences and try enabling and disabling some settings
  4. Visit some other language and project test wikis such as English Wikivoyage, the Hebrew Wikipedia and test the settings
  5. Report your findings, experience, bugs, and other observations

Once the team has feedback on design issues, bugs, and other things that might need worked out, the problems will be addressed and global preferences will be sent to the wikis.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! --Keegan (WMF) (talk) 00:24, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Editing News #1—2018[edit]

20:56, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

NOTICE: EducationProgram extension is being deprecated[edit]

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Over the years many issues have been discovered from our engineering colleagues regarding the Education Extension, including security concerns. For this reason, and with a viable alternative platform available, we are starting the process to deprecate the extension and having it uninstalled where it has been activated. This includes this wiki Special:Courses.

This means that the following steps will be taken:

  1. New programs are discouraged from using the extension and encouraged to use the Programs and Events Dashboard.
  2. Current ongoing programs will be supported, until the month of June, 2018.
  3. On June 30, 2018, the Education Extension will be shut down.
  4. If you are still running an education program that uses the Education Extension, please take the appropriate measures and also reach out to your colleagues and communities so they are also aware.

It should be noted that data of previous programs that ran on the Education Extension will remain safe, and we are working on documenting how to access that data.

Thus, we invite all Education Program Leaders (and users of the Education Extension) to take the online training for the dashboard so that you can benefit from this tool and make your work easier.

Did you know you can also use the P&E Dashboard at edit-a-thons, writing competitions, and other Wiki-based activities? More training courses for the dashboard are available here, so take a look!

Do you need to communicate with us about this?

  • If you have comments or questions, please reach out to the Education Team at educationAt, or the Programs and Events Dashboard group at dashboardAt
  • If you use Phabricator, you can also go to:
  • You are also welcome to share questions and comments on

-- On behalf of the Education Team 19:56, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Please test pings in edit summary[edit]

1. Read this:

"You can notify users in edit summaries. They will get a ping just as if they had been mentioned on a wiki page. phab:T32750"-- meta:Tech/News/2018/10

2. Sign up at using a different user name and password (not the one you use here). You may create multiple accounts if you like, just put a note on their user pages.

3. Edit a page and put a username link in edit summary. Confirm that you are receiving the notification correctly.

4. Test at different pages and in different ways.

5. Report bugs to Phabricator.

6. Share this comment with other people on other wikis, in different languages.

--Gryllida (talk) 23:42, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Pi zero said he didn't get a ping when I put his username in edit summary on a user talk page (my own). --SVTCobra 17:33, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
And when Pi zero tried it in reply on the HotCat topic below, I did not get a ping or notification. Cheers, --SVTCobra 19:42, 11 March 2018 (UTC)


Why does HotCat show categories that Wikinews doesn't actually have? Today, it was Category:Censorship. I typed in the first few letters and Hotcat auto-completed with "Censorship" and added a red-linked category. See diff. Why? Cheers, --SVTCobra 17:36, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

I've noticed this behavior (possibly for years?). I've a theory it's basing its "guesses" on some internal permanent record of every category page that ever has existed, regardless of whether it has been deleted (unless it's just using Wikipedia, but I'm inclined to the permanent-record theory). To avoid accidentally adding redlinked categories, what I do is tell HotCat to add a second category as well (using "+", but don't actually enter a second category name), then click "okay" for the one I'm actually adding. HocCat then shows an actual link to the category I've requested, so if it doesn't exist I'll see the redlink without having committed to it yet.

I'm testing ping-via-edit-summary, on this. --Pi zero (talk) 19:16, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Notification from edit summary[edit]

We heard the same thing a while back in Tech News: 2018-10. Hope it happens this time. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:04, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Edittools not properly working?[edit]

Sometimes the scroll menu below the big buttons appears; other times it doesn't. It has been happening to all WikiEditor versions, including the 2003 and 2010 WikiEditor, which has the newer Toolbar. I wonder what can be done about either MediaWiki:Edittools and/or MediaWiki:Edittools.js. --George Ho (talk) 18:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC)