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Welcome back sort of????

Glad to see you here... @Darkfrog24: BigKrow (talk) 11:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

I think you understand it well. It's partly because of your message but the truth is I saw a news story that was able to hold my interest long enough to put together a draft.

If Wikinews really is struggling then we need to change a few things, even if only temporarily. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Luigi

Hi, they frequently get on me to write in past tense in the Reviwer's notes, so that is why the Luigi article was written the way it was. Let me know if you have any questions Lofi Gurl (talk) 19:15, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Short answer, no it's not supposed to be past tense. Luigi M is still in prison and has not been released, so you say he is in prison, not was in prison. The Wikinews Manual of Style says that the article should be in the past tense but that does not mean that every verb should be in the past tense. If you look at published news articles, you'll see that they treat their verbs the same way.

Also, somes of our reviewers speak English as a subsequent language—it's not a secret; many of us post our language skill levels on our userpages—and it's not unusual for them to make mistakes with this famously inconsistent language. Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

It may be fair to tell you that there was a huge fight about this some years ago. Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:32, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Do you have a link to the discussion? I'm intrigued Lofi Gurl (talk) 14:09, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Not off the top of my head, but when I call it a fight, I mean it wasn't a serious discussion that set precedent for Wikinews practice going forward. I mean it was a fight. It was about the social dynamic of the site, specifically whether drafters have to obey reviewers even if they have proof that the reviewer is wrong. It did not come to any usable conclusion. But this was years ago, long enough for people to change their minds about some or even all of it, so there is no sense putting any one person on the spot.

Short answer, you are responsible for every edit you make even if you are just following orders. If a reviewer tells you to do something bad, or if anyone reacts negatively proof that part of the review is incorrect or unnecessary or even just not how you want to spend your volunteered time, remember that you have the option of making no response and leaving the article to be published or time out without further input from you. Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:36, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I mean, it's a wiki/collab community, so worst case scenario if I do something wrong it can be corrected or reverted (which you did, which I appreciate). Lofi Gurl (talk) 16:12, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I hope that that has become the norm. I was active from 2016 in through the pandemic, and then completely gone, and am now far less active. The dynamic may have changed considerably. Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:46, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

It's a work in progress. Thanks for talking to me about this. Onward and upward! Lofi Gurl (talk) 16:59, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi

How are you friend? @Darkfrog24 BigKrow (talk) 16:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Of whom? Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:20, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

You silly, lol BigKrow (talk) 16:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

You feeling okay, BK? Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Somewhat BigKrow (talk) 16:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Top article in May!

Contributing author for the top article published in May, 2025. The article has at least 1,768 views!

Thank you for contributing to the article titled "Authorities arrest Belarusian Wikipedia sysop and only bureaucrat Maksim Lepushenka." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in May of 2025.

Keep up the great work!

Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 21:14, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikinews shutting down?

Did you hear? Sad.... @Darkfrog24 BigKrow (talk) 22:35, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikinews is not shutting down. As of June 2025, Wikinews remains active in 31 languages, including English, with over 1.7 million articles and hundreds of recently active editors. The English Wikinews specifically is still operational, with more than 22,000 articles and ongoing user contributions. There is no official announcement or credible indication that Wikinews, or its English edition, is closing or shutting down.

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Is Wikinews planning to shut down or is it still active in 2025

What recent community discussions suggest about Wikinews's future

How has editor activity changed on Wikinews over the past year

Are there any official announcements about Wikinews closing soon

What factors are currently threatening Wikinews's sustainability

@Darkfrog24 BigKrow (talk) 23:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

What did you hear? It looks like you copied this from somewhere. Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

I found information saying Wikinews might go arcieve mode @Darkfrog24 BigKrow (talk) 23:36, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

@Michael.C.Wright BigKrow (talk) 23:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Where did you find it? Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:39, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#Sister_Projects_Task_Force_reviews_Wikispore_and_Wikinews BigKrow (talk) 23:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

@Darkfrog24 BigKrow (talk) 23:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Public_consultation_about_Wikinews BigKrow (talk) 23:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

@Darkfrog24 BigKrow (talk) 23:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Truth is behind a paywall...

[T]he truth is behind a paywall, but propaganda is free. An interesting quote. Since we forbid paywalled sources...it begs the question. ツ Good post.Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 00:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

I mean that we are the nonpaywalled avenue to information. And people can use us to identify others. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:51, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Top article for June!

Original author for the top article published in June, 2025. The article has at least 3,666 views.

Thank you for starting the article titled "Boeing 787 crashes into Indian medical school, killing hundreds." As of today, the article has the highest number of page-views of all articles published in June of 2025.

As the original author, you can also use the following userbox on your user page:

	This user was the original author of the top article for June, 2025

This article set a new, high bar of total page views! —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 13:16, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Community response to SPTF's recommendation to close Wikinews

The Wikimedia Foundation’s Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF) has issued a recommendation to close Wikinews. A community response to the Task Force is underway and I believe it's critical that we show clear support from contributors, reviewers, and administrators if we want Wikinews to remain open.

If you believe Wikinews still has potential for revitalization and should remain active, I ask that you:

• Review and help improve the draft community response, and/or
• Add your endorsement once you're comfortable with the language

The goal is to finalize the draft before the July 16 Task Force call, so our response is ready for consideration.

You can find the draft here: 👉 Wikinews:Response to Proposal for Closing Wikinews

Thanks for considering. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 14:50, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Is this the one that you and I have already commented on or is it a new one? Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:18, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Top article in July!

Contributing author for the top article published in July, 2025. The article has at least 3,583 views!

Thank you for contributing to the article titled "20-year-old astrophotographer captures rare solar eclipse on Saturn." The article has the most number of page-views of all articles published in July of 2025.

That's three months in a row!

Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 16:31, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Request for Reviewership

Hi Darkfrog24

Hope you're doing well.

I've closed your request for reviewership as unsuccessful as there were 3 support and 2.5 oppose vote. I would note a few items of concern

• what was described as 'interpersonal skills with others'
• please sign your pre-reviews, then they have a 'Reply' button available to users who have quick reply feature enabled in preferences
• when pre-reviewing, if it is ready to publish, tag a few reviewers; i use template {{ping-assistance-required}} for this, and subst it
• if it is not ready to publish, tag a few users; i use template {{pingrr}} for it, and subst it; ideally, also ping the users who wrote the current revision
• suggest itemizing (via numbered list) things that need fixing in the pre-review, as this makes it easier for foreigners and for new users to work with your provided feedback.
• see also: Wikinews:Watching pages and this discussion

i'm happy to work together with you and try to be less of a nuisance, towards re-application next year provided the site is still existing somewhere given that the WMF had a consultation about closing it at meta:Public consultation about Wikinews

have a great day, Gryllida 20:11, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

I consider you an involved party in this matter, G.

I see a lot of this post of yours is a critique of the way I do pre-review. No thanks. Your time is better spent on other things. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:50, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

It is not just you, i am aiming to get these points documented in official documentation as seen in link to water cooler discussion. I am not going away anywhere soon. Please subscribe to water cooler if you would like to be updated. Gryllida 03:17, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

Wow, you are? Good for you. I greatly support posting rules publicly. But in the meantime, these are your personal preferences, and they don't mean that much to me. I'm going to pass on notifications, but I'll check it out. Darkfrog24 (talk) 11:55, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

Good plan thanks Darkfrog24 Gryllida 13:25, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

@Darkfrog24 BigKrow (talk) 01:00, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

It's a team effort. She was gonna time out. Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:27, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

good to see you back?

how's it going? Staying around? @Darkfrog24 BigKrow (talk) 00:53, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

I don't have plans one way or the other, BK. Most of the time I look at the news and don't see anything I would want to write a Wikinews article about. You can always call me if you need me. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:00, 23 September 2025 (UTC)