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VisualEditor coming to this wiki as a Beta Feature[edit]

VE as BetaFeature.png

Hello. Please excuse the English. I would be grateful if you translated this message!

VisualEditor, a rich-text editor for MediaWiki, will soon be available on this wiki as a Beta Feature. The estimated date of activation is Wednesday, 26 November.

To access it, you will need to visit the Beta features page after the deployment and tick the box next to "VisualEditor". (If you have enabled the "Automatically enable all new beta features" option, VisualEditor will be automatically available for you.) There will also be a "VisualEditor language tool" that you can enable if you need it.

Then, you just have to click on "Edit" to start VisualEditor, or on "Edit source" to edit using wikitext markup. You can even begin to edit pages with VisualEditor and then switch to the wikitext editor simply by clicking on its tab at any point, and you can keep your changes when doing so.

A guide was just published at mediawiki.org so that you can learn how to support your community with this transition: please read and translate it if you can! You will find all the information about the next steps there. Please report any suggestions or issues at the main feedback page. You will also receive the next issues of the multilingual monthly newsletter here on this page: if you want it delivered elsewhere, for example at your personal talk page, please add the relevant page here.

Thanks for your attention and happy editing, Elitre (WMF) 18:12, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
I'd really like to know whether this folly will eventually be forced on us. --Pi zero (talk) 02:59, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor coming to this wiki as a Beta Feature (errata)[edit]

Labs is causing me to Grinch out![edit]

I'm griping more than 'asking'.......I read over on WP technical that the whole WMF Labs (and most of its wonderful tools) is royally janked up right now! Grrrrrrrr.......!!! The ability to check peoples' edit counts (and loads of other things) leads to the ability to 'reward' them for their efforts easily. The rewards serve as behavioral reinforcement. Behavioral reinforcement leads to warm fuzzies. Warm fuzzies makes people want to come back here (for free, mind you) and continue their work. I know the whole WMF is expensive but there just has to be a way for them to keep some fundamental tools working!! --Bddpaux (talk) 16:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

It's not that expensive. They spend lots of money on things that do harm to the projects and the communities. The problem is a severe one; it seems that they not only have wrong priorities, they have some sort of completely wrong-headed notion of the nature of wiki projects. I try sincerely to work with them and give them useful feedback, but all the while I have this strong suspicion that it's simply not possible for them to do anything useful with the kind of organizational structure they've created. They've got an apparently facebook-like model of how wikis work, and they're trying to use centralized top-down programming teams to create software for an inherently bottom-up culture. --Pi zero (talk) 18:08, 5 December 2014 (UTC)