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User talk:Doldrums archives

  1. from October 7, 2005 up to July 11, 2006
  2. up to September 5, 2006
  3. up to 26 October 2006
  4. up to 13 December 2006
  5. up to 4 February 2007
  6. up to 14 April 2007
  7. up to 9 January 2008


Your sandbox

I'd like to see that moved over and published in a day or so. It isn't time-sensitive and a few people could check it and the source stuff. I gave up on the original attempt as being hard to read - it probably needs refactored as a /Notes off the talk page when this goes in Main namespace. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


Ok, thanks for pointing that out - I have been the subject of much heated debate over copyright ownership - much of which is my word against the policies (I will obiously loose)

Because I have the legal rights to republish stories written by reuters, there is much contriversy within wikinews about wheather (srry about the spelling) I should publish these stories. I can't be bothered debating the facts - I can publish these stories legally but, if no one wants to accept it, they are on their own!

In future, I will not contribute however, i will still be involved in wikinews video Symode09 09:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Canadian govt. photos

Thanks for the info, Doldrums. And the image is perfect! Cheers, Jcart1534 10:25, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


Hello, Doldrums! I use this name on every wikimedia project: I am an administrator on Commons, a long-time user on wikipedia, and I have over 56 accounts across wikimedia projects (yes all those are me). I've never come across a problem with my username before... is it a wikinews-specific problem or just a general concern? If it is going to cause a problem I could probably sign up with another name, though when SUL comes around I will have this username anyway. I could sign up then with another account but that may cause problems/be a hassle. I'll see what I can do, though, if my name is an issue :) — Editor at Large talk 07:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't see your name as an issue. DragonFire1024 07:16, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I could, possibly, use my name instead of username in my signature, perhaps? I greatly dislike doing this as it is both confusing when people try to find me or my pages (often the username and signature name will not be connected as they are rarely seen together) and I don't like broadcasting my name so openly, even if I and others do use it on-wiki. However, if it avoids problems then I suppose it is a worthwhile compromise; I can post on the noticeboard if you would like to ask others' opinions on the matter. — Editor at Large talk 09:25, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
have replied here. –Doldrums(talk) 09:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome; I'll add the notices to my page, and I will certainly roam at large and edit as I intended when I signed up! — Editor at Large talk 19:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Bg image

Did you notice my comment on WN:WC about an image I found,, I'm trying a part of it as my monobook.css, and the only thing I see is we'd need to either darken the "NEWS" part of the logo, or make it a different colour. Amusingly, the photo is of a pile of excess newspapers printed for the Katrina disaster and never sold/user. Thoughts? --Brian McNeil / talk 14:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: ANZAC article

A reply to the message you left on Nzgabriel's user page has been left. --Nzgabriel | Talk 08:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


I always have problems with that spelling. :-) --Brian McNeil / talk 09:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: comment on UFO article talk page

Yes I noticed, thanks for that.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Q.

Thank you, Doldrums! I appreciate the gesture and I would be happy to accept the nomination. Jcart1534 16:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome --PBS 19:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear Doldrums, this issue has already been resolved a(I thought the seven looses controll of audio article had been deleted)


I understand that - since then, I have written lottle stories - I am focusing on the wikinews video project. thanks Symode09 10:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Anime News

Well can i create Anime News? All of the Global Anime News are almost NEVER copyrighted for obv. reasons! Im surrprised Anime News isnt up already! o well!--Saikano 16:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


I didn't speedy 19:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I am the author of the wikipedia article and the wikinews article, CIA Director George Tenet's memoir published it is not copyright protected information. I am the one who wrote it. 19:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

in regards to the wikinews blog, there is also a wikipedia blog ( - I beleive there is nothing wring with using to name of wikinews - if I was pretending to represent or attempting to defame wikinews I would understand your objection however, regardless of if I am right or wrong, this is still a source which is useful. I would appreiate your understanding Symode09 11:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: Wow DragonFire1024 21:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

And there is no need to be sarcastic. Also, this is English Wikinews. Lately there have been quite a few foreign sources not in English being used. I, and others, should not have to hunt down English sources, or find means to translate them. DragonFire1024 22:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Hungarian is not a common language, and I had to get a plug-in just to try a translation, which just made it worse. And what I could read looked like IMO a editorial. DragonFire1024 22:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


please see thanks :)

Symode09 07:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

As above —Symode09 07:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
As above above —Symode09 08:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

ooops, wron link, see Symode09 08:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi you mailed me before. I'm a top 100 contributor User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld from Wikipedia. Your're all doing a great job on the news!!! 12:38, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikiquote troll

Obviously, that's not me. Is Wikiquote inquiring into the situation or something? --TUFKAAP 23:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I had the same problem TUFKAAP. Thanks for the heads-up Doldrums. Cheers, Jcart1534 23:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Cross-Wiki impersonation

Thank you for the info on this, that is not an account which i created, and i am glad you brought it to my attention. I apologize for the amount of time it took for me to respond to your comments, but i have a large homework load right now, and took an un-announced wiki-break, sorry for any confusion this may have caused you, i plan to get back to my wiki-work asap.—Dark_Squall 22:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


Hey Doldrums. Just wanted to thank you again for the admin nomination. I'll take care of the reading list and will try to use the buttons wisely. All the best! Jcart1534 22:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


I'd be honored if you nominated me. I don't mind putting in my time in archiving and such, but I do want to remain committed to providing content. I don't want to end up like Brianmc who barely writes articles anymore. I don't know anything about Bots, but I suppose I can learn. --SVTCobra 15:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


Hi Doldrums. No worries with the suggestions you provide! I appreciate the feedback as it is sometimes hard to step back and look at the whole story. Cheers, Jcart1534 15:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: Grants

When asking about grants, I asked general questions such as, how long would the process take. I do not plan on being very involved in the application - I am not a US citicen and therefore am illegible to continue legally. I did not pose as a representative of the foundation. soncerely, Symode09 14:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

So are the article I now make better?

~~ Vagish [wp] [wn] 09:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


What do you want the title to say "Bloomberg maybe, might be, prepared to spend 1 billion dollars for presidency but says he will not run." I'll put the part saying he will not run and it is also in the main source also.

Then Fix it

Fine, do it then, don't say it's bad and put the article stuck in Development. Wikinews is about people working together to make the article not one person writing it and ten people saying it's bad and putting it in development. I would mention the 1 billion dollars in the title if you can since it does grab attention. The 13th 4postle 16:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Bloomberg article ?

I cleaned it up and the title has been changed and it mentions the fact that he denied he would not run. Please Publish it or let it be published.The 13th 4postle 01:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

On Notice

Your On Notice!!! The 13th 4postle 03:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I Apologize

I apologize about it, I didn't mean to offend you it's just a joke. I even figured it might give you a laugh. The 13th 4postle 14:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


Its nearly identical to Reuters First paragraph and article. But whatever. I restored it so that you can see that. DragonFire1024 14:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for helping restore and rewrite the acticle. :) -- AngusSuen 15:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


You're right, the block was too long, but I think that the IP needs to be blocked for at least three months. The end user revealed a phone number, which I had oversighted. I'm blocking for three months, if you disagree, please contact me :)  Thunderhead  ►  22:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


hello Pandoo 19:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for bashing some shape into Talks about Wolfowitz resignation begin. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Global warming

I'm a user in the Hungarian wikipedia, the English wikipedia, and the USA' Conservapedia. Just this Wikinews is unusal. So I would like to translate news about global warming.

I think the wikinews has a big wikiproject about global warming. I'm looking for just wikiproject global warming. Thanks a lot Doldrums.--Kádár Tamás 09:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Norton AntiVirus cripples thousands of PCs in China

That Google News search result page contains all Chinese news sources regarding this event. English news media haven't got it yet.

Wikinews Shorts: May 20, 2007

Jcart wrote a full version of the David Hicks story, should it be removed from the shorts or be left in with a link to the full version? Like the golf story in Wikinews Shorts: April 9, 2007. dif1 dif2. Your Shorts expertise is requested!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I thought that might be a good solution. thanks.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, excellent solution Doldrums. I'll keep that in mind for the future. Cheers, Jcart1534 19:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Input re: China warns US

Hi Doldrums. I noticed your input yesterday on the China warns US to avoid trade confrontation article. Thank you, it was very helpful! A bit of work but I think we managed to get a reasonable concensus. Cheers, Jcart1534 13:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: Great OR

Thanks for the copyedit and helping to make the article better, you did an excellent job - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 20:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


2 of the articles you've written have been promoted to featured status, even though you seemed reluctant to vote on them yourself! Well done. Please consider voting on some of the remaining candidates were consensus isn't so clear yet: WN:FAC.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:08, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Monster Pig

Monster Pig should be capitalized, it is the name of the pig that was killed, you should really start a discussion on the talk page before renaming articles, I am going to put it back. 10:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Tru Mobsters Online MMORPG Game

You have deleted every news article I have posted because it gives direct links to my site what is your deal?>

Re: AWB and admin maintainance tasks

Thumbs up.jpg

Thanks, I could use a replacement digit. Fingers wear down, but thumbs rule!! —Zachary talk 08:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Breaking news

Thanks for adding the flag to the south Thailand story. Updates are coming in now. I will likely be moving it under another headline, something like 21 dead in south Thailand attacks. Wisekwai 16:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

My Pleasure

[1] :) I apologies for flooding RC. I can’t run this on by BOT account (does'nt have a flag anyway, but oh well) as that does not have adminship Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

remove obscenities directed against named persons from the deletion log

OK, thanks, I will observe this policy in the future. This was the first time I handled a semi-sustained attack and also the first time I blocked anyone. --SVTCobra 22:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Summarizing the day!

I have an idea. I want to do a summarizing page for each day and add bits from the news articles on that date. For example, for tonight we should do (just an example) June 7, 2007 (Summary) (or a different format of link) and add only a few describing lines or a describing paragraph to explain the headline. We can give FULL STORY links to those articles. This looks like Wikinews Shorts and the Wikinews Main Page, but no. The summary page should include all headlines from that day. How about it? Tekin 21:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome and help, Doldrums. The first time's always the hardest :-D Nigeltde 19:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Weird :)

Hi Doldrums, I only now saw you had put some links on User:Sean_Heron/g8. For a moment I had thought it was from someone I had met in Kühlungsborn, cause I was chatting with a guy who was from the G8 Research Group from Toronto! Hmm, had I known I might have interviewed him as well... I´ve definetly come to regard preparation as of an utmost importance. Regards Sean Heron 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Could you have a look?

Here: Talk:Council of Europe report challenges teaching of Creationism#NPOV. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Phyu Phyu Thin

Thanks for the trophy, and your work at editing the latest Myanmar article, especially tracking down an image of Phyu Phyu Thin. Wisekwai 10:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Possible to track new articles?

Hello Doldrums-Sysop-Person!

Is there a way to keep track of new articles only, as they are created? I have been watching 'recent changes' but its about 90% minor edits. There must be some way that I don't know about, eh? Thanks Emperor NortonXXIII 04:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome

Hi and thanks for your welcome. I will be here only every now and then, that is when I try to translate certain news about the town and the surroundings where I live. I hope I won't mix up things all too much, since I noted that the various wikinews sites do their work a bit different ... so if there are problems, please just tell me. Thanks! --SabineCretella 17:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Updating articles over 24 hours old

Hi Doldrums - Thanks for the message. I totally understand the nature of articles over a day old, and I absolutely agree with that policy. The rationale that I used to make changes in this case, however, were because the article omitted a key contextual point. Leahy responded to a question that dealt directly with criminal contempt of congress, not just a simple court judgment on executive privilege. It's a distinct difference that I saw covered elsewhere, but not in this article. If he, for example, was quoted saying that today as a followup to his comments on Sunday, then absolutely I would have started a new story, but I felt that the prior article needed to include more information on the context of the discussion to accurately describe what Leahy actually said on Sunday. Hope that helps. Glad I can help out and contribute, and I appreciate the feedback as I get more involved. :) Aaron Ray 04:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


Technically I have mentioned it several times on IRC, about instating the template as an option for authors to add to new articles - and nobody was able to say any reason it *wouldn't* be allowed under WMF policy (PD is encouraged), and legally it's certainly acceptable for me to license my story. Neither of the stories the article was on had any license-able edits by other editors anyways, merely stylistic, spacing, etc - now legally they could argue on the talk page that "I just added a bunch of paragraphs, I do not wish to have them be Public Domain", and assuming the paragraphs improve the article and are kept, the template would be removed. But as it stands, the template deserves a chance and falls within both WMF and legal guidelines for use. Sherurcij 16:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Old articles and adding things to them

Hi Doldrums, Policy is pretty clear about not adding new content to old articles. You know, the whole "not works in progress", etc. Recently, I reverted an edit by User:Blood Red Sandman, who had added a Wikipediapar link to w:Republic Airlines flight 4912 & SkyWest Airlines flight 5741 to the article NTSB releases updates on status of 3 major US investigations. My reason for this was that the Wikipedia article did not exist at the time of publication of the Wikinews article.

Blood Red Sandman then pointed out that you had recently added a Wikipediapar link w:2006 Slovak Air Force Antonov An-24 crash to article Slovak transport plane crashes over Hungary. In this case, the Wikinews article also predates the Wikipedia article.

So, I can understand why Sandman is confused. We obviously can't both be right since the examples are so nearly identical. Do you know which is correct? Should Wikinews add Wikipedia cross-wiki links afterwards? I think that I am right, and that you just didn't notice that the Wikipedia article was far older, but I am far from certain. I would like to hear back. Is there precedent? A rule of thumb? Should it be mentioned in policy? Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

How long
10:30, 5 July 2007 Doldrums (Talk | contribs) (2,260 bytes) (Undo revision 453327 by (Talk) unpublish, pls don't publish until cleanup is performed) 
will it last ? 06:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Refugee article

Hi Doldrums. Thanks for adding the table with the data summary. It is brilliant to see the figures like that. Really hits home. Cheers, --Jcart1534 19:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Europe category

May I ask why you added the Europe category to Well-preserved baby mammoth found in Siberia? Siberia is in the Asian part of Russia. JoshuaZ 15:44, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


wait what did i change?

also, how can u put a souce when that wasnt the source?

thanks Doldrums,

for helping to head off my latest etiquette disaster at Cindy Sheehan arrested inside Rayburn Building in Washington DC. regards -Edbrown05 20:25, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit to User talk:Justdidier

I'm not sure if you have checkuser access on here or something but, as far as I can tell, this user isn't responsible for the spam today. It seems that User: is. I was bold and went ahead and moved your comment regarding that to that location, but if I was incorrect, please feel free to revert me. Pilotguy roger that 15:22, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


long time

Pandoo 18:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


Excellent. I assume you have suspended habeas? --+Deprifry+ 12:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Here's an article for you to kill

... or perhaps it belongs on the Washington page. -Edbrown05 11:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

thanks. –Doldrums(talk) 11:31, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for deleteing that.

I'm dumb, I thought in my incoherent haze that renaming an article would delete the original. Duh. Thanks for taking care of the vandalism. irid:t 05:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Politics - w:Tony Benn

You rarely appear in IRC so I can't bug you about my Benn interview there. Then there's the fact that you do an excellent job of separating your personal politics from Wikinews. However... I would appreciate your wisdom and input on the interview I have to do. Tony Benn is a UK political heavyweight, and if we do a good interview other sources will pick it up. It will be a telephone interview that I record, upload, and transcribe. On that basis I will need help from wherever I can get it to turn that into an article. Your input would be most welcome. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi

I am a new comer and I want to save my news, Can you please help me by editing it?

--Iamsaa 06:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for Welcome

Heh, thanks for the welcome. I have some familiarity with Wikis in general (done some stuff on Wikipedia, very much involved in a Wiki on modding TES4: Oblivion), but never really used Wikinews. I just felt the article was very much needed, because I'm having serious trouble figuring out what is going on - very few news outlets are covering it, and information is really hard thanks to MTA's web site dying incessantly.

Anyway, I appreciate the welcome, as I said. I saw most (all?) of those links when I signed up, but frankly, I don't really have time to learn everything. I hoped that I could write something "good enough" and move on with figuring out my own situation (I need to get to Brooklyn from Manhattan... still not happening). Good luck, and thanks again. --DragoonWraith 15:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Benn Interview

Can you help out with this a bit? I have a hellish amount of work to get through today and doubt I'll have much time to work on the transcript. I'm wondering if it'd be better just to write an article from the recording and defer the transcript. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and oversight requests

There are two requests in relation to CheckUser and oversight which require the approval of the Arbitration Committee before they are presented to Wikimedia stewards for action to be taken. I would ask you to review these two requests:

  1. User:Brianmc has recently been elected to the committee and requests CheckUser and oversight
  2. User:Chiacomo hasn't been re-elected and has been inactive on the project since March, User:Adambro has suggested his privileges are revoked.

I would appreciate your input, as a member of ARBCOM which I understand has the final say on whether a user has these rights, on these two requests. Adambro 14:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphan talks

Dear Doldrums,

excuse my bad English. This is my firs post on, I mainly work on it.source. I just slipped inside to paste a list of talk pages belonging to deleted articles. In other projects these orphan talks are normally deleted, so I think to be useful pointing them out: they are

Hope this can help...

OrbiliusMagister. 21:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Supporters of Canadian youth held in Guantanamo gather, demand action

"Reporting notes" wouldn't consist of anything other than "Hi, I'm Joshua Ainslie, an accredited WN reporter - I was there" - if it's that important, I can throw that on the talk page. Sherurcij refusing to add Original Reporting until PD Articles are allowed 08:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure "getting reporters to turn in their notes" sounds like a great idea when planning how to make sure some kid isn't lying about there being a massacre at the dog show - but no, I'm not going to "turn in" my notes to be scrutinized. I do thank you for catching my typo as my brain outpaced my eyes, I admit I was perhaps premature in adding the Publish tag without thoroughly vetting the article. Sherurcij refusing to add Original Reporting until PD Articles are allowed 08:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

2007/08 Bundesliga: Borussia Dortmund vs. Bayern Munich

The article is going to be published in 10 days. I would like to avoid doing the tedious templates the day of the game. So can you restore the page? Kingjeff 20:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: good

Hi Doldrums. Thanks. I hope you are able to drop in when you can. Cheers, Jcart1534 22:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Borrowed some

Hi Doldrums. I hope you don't mind, but I unashamedly ripped-off your archive templates! Hope you are well. Cheers, Jcart1534 02:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


Thanx! nice to be remembered... Amgine | sw 07:41, 8 January 2008 (UTC)