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Promoted. -- Cirt (talk) 20:07, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Self-nominating; I'm nowadays of the view that covering major stories against mainstream media should be done very well if at all, and this is my effort at just that. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:44, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support And an excellent — plus most-comprehensive — example this is. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:57, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Just to riff a bit on short synthesis about major stories. It has its uses; depending on how msm covers it, putting things into clear neutral perspective may have significant value for readers too (plus, of course, the experience it provides to the author(s) and the rounding it provides to our archives). But I admit, short synthesis seems to me more suited to under-reported stories. It's certainly a capital mistake to write a short item on a widely covered story just because we "should have something on it". </riff>
- This article is worthy. --Pi zero (talk) 21:01, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support This article has several strong points that make it worthy for nomination and support: The author's focus coincided with the first anniversary of the Jan. 25, 2011 protests and added the most recent information about the country's transition. Timely! This took forethought, advanced preparation and diligence to meet the deadline. The author's comprehensive overview, or depth, was well organized and could be divided into at least three sections: 1) transition to a new government, 2) the economy, and 3) human rights. One suggestion for improvement would be to use sections that would make it easier to read. The reporter also used quality sources and provided the audience with good information about each point. The contrasting photos of Tahir Square "then" and "now" was a good approach to show continuation of negative public sentiment toward the government. The main reason I support this nomination is that the article used synthesis to add perspective. Crtew (talk) 17:39, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, comprehensive, good use of four (4) quality images, important topic, of educational value for the public. -- Cirt (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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If we didn't all know this is exemplary, we wouldn't have devoted so much post-publish discussion to how to make it easier to approach this level of work in future. --Pi zero (talk) 17:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Votes
- Support as nominator. --Pi zero (talk) 17:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support for reasons that should not need stating. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:17, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support this isn't FA already? --RockerballAustralia c 21:39, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support for opening up new ground in its use of video from streaming sites and for its in-depth coverage of a month-long attack Crtew (talk) 21:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support readily. This is top-flight stuff. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:35, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support This is really good work that appears to meet all the criteria. --LauraHale (talk) 03:14, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, excellent body of work. -- Cirt (talk) 17:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I think the most in-depth piece Mike did. The number of people he chased down comment from is what makes this most impressive — even if Eurovision makes me thing "Die Wogan Die!" --Brian McNeil / talk 17:21, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support for the breadth and depth of interview-based OR. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:21, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, fabulous collection of comment here. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Oh yeah, fer sure!! Bddpaux (talk) 01:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support One of the best reports in the music journalism category I have seen on Wikinews! Crtew (talk) 14:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support The level of research in terms of interviews is very impressive. --LauraHale (talk) 03:15, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, it is indeed in-depth, and utilizes a good amount of multimedia files in addition to the quality writing. -- Cirt (talk) 17:36, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Successful Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:49, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Imho a compelling read. It's got "only" two pictures, but they're good ones. Not only is OR not a requirement for an FA, but it isn't even the first listed optional-but-encouraged criterion at WN:WIAFA. First listed is "articles that were worked on by several authors, to highlight the collaborative nature of Wikinews." We often forget that one, because multi-author news writing turns out to be difficult to do well; but in this case the article has over a dozen authors (fourteen, is it?), and did come out well, so I think it a very solid candidate. (Nor was I the first to mention "FA" in the same breath with this article; but I am nominating it.) --Pi zero (talk) 01:58, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support as nominator. --Pi zero (talk) 01:58, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support for the highly collaborative nature of this in-depth report. What it has highlighted are some of the difficulties in that type of work. As Crtew pointed out, where TIME have a multi-author piece, one person is tasked with going over the article in its entirety to make it flow and 'paper over' the cracks from differing author styles; disclosure: I did a substantial amount of the work in that respect here. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:01, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support for a nicely collaborative piece, in spite of the fact I was left wanting a better discussion of how human trafficking is linked to tourism. The article highlights a massively overlooked problem; I'm reminded of this piece (which spun out from this case) which anyone interested in the subject should read; a great shame I forgot about it whilst the WN article was being prepared. Excellent collaboration, which is hard in a news context. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:37, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support It is a solid article with lots of nice collaboration--Cspurrier (talk) 23:25, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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William's hit a great one here, with a wonderful set of detailed responses that make for a first-class interview. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 01:04, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Agreed. --Pi zero (talk) 01:09, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. This shows that it can be worthwhile letting the interviewee say what they want to say — where they've not got an agenda to pervert the interview process. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:16, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support It is an interesting detailed interview with lots of nice photos --Cspurrier (talk) 23:28, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Votestacking as nominator since that seems to be the done thing these days. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 13:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closed as successful, I don't think interviews come much better than this. Craig's comments are quite valid, but how else do you illustrate an article about a voice artist? --Brian McNeil / talk 09:00, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
David S. collected more than a few good interviews; this one, having just re-read it, definitely meets all the criteria I look for in content that should be featured. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support as nominator; uninvolved in production of article. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Holy crap what a riveting interview. Sourcing practices/standards have changed discernibly, I can't help noting (review mode having become a reflex), but that seems to me to have exactly nothing to do, at least in this case, with FA quality. Leaves the FA criteria in the dust. --Pi zero (talk) 22:36, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Easily. Most, maybe even all, of Shankbone's interviews were excellent even against FA standards and this was one of the best. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 23:50, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support well der --RockerballAustralia c 22:05, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Neutral It is a very well done interview, but the fair use claims are kind of weak for the images. I do not think this is a problem for an article, but I am not sure we should consider articles for FA status when there are issue like this. --Cspurrier (talk) 23:32, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Closed as successful, although higher participation in these discussions would be better. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:39, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Not so long ago, 10kb or so was a solid FA candidate. I'm a little concerned that the FA bar has been raised somewhat by a string of particularly exceptional articles (Diego's military plane crash, Dendodge's space junk, Brian's cultural tours, my own schizobipolar genetics - all with OR). Nonetheless, I'm going to self-nom what I feel is a solid piece of synthesis and the best English coverage I saw of what should have been a major international story. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:43, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Heh. I believe the expression is, "We've upped our standards; so, up yours!" I like this article, and it's pretty well-written. Don't dispute probably better pieced together than the majority of mainstream coverage. But, I'm going to defer voting for now. I'll most likely support, but want to see how the rest of the community reacts to your comments about rising FA quality criteria. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:45, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong support Interesting article, interesting topic. Meets criteria. Overall a good candidate. Also (not that it matters) it's the best, if not only, english language article covering the decision. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 19:03, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Was just waiting to see a 2nd opinion, and largely agree with how Cocoaguy puts this. (And, I'm popping in another long-overlooked candidate above. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support This is solid news coverage. Granted, a lot of great articles might cause the bar to rise a bit; a little bar-raising isn't necessarily a bad thing, within reason, but — ultimately, FA status is not a zero sum game. A deserving article should get listed. --Pi zero (talk) 01:41, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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successful Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Another "cultural" opening/press preview. I overheard one of the other journalists commenting to a colleague he'd to write 750 words on the reopening of the portrait gallery. It seemed a little,... terse to try and cover the event so briefly. So, angling for another FA to add to my list. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:33, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support as author and nominator. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:33, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support passes the criteria swimmingly. --Pi zero (talk) 14:27, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support for shaming said journo in such and artful way (pun intended) --RockerballAustralia c 22:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Rockerball, I need an explanation on your comment. One beyond "No sleep 'til Brixton". --Brian McNeil / talk 22:58, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Something of "cultural importance" is worth more than 750 word (I think this is about twice as long). And, I'm liking the way the article is laid out. --RockerballAustralia c 10:40, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- My count, including maybe a few dozen words of image captions but filtering out artifacts like templates and apostrophe-s possessives, came to 2493 words. --Pi zero (talk) 17:33, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Something of "cultural importance" is worth more than 750 word (I think this is about twice as long). And, I'm liking the way the article is laid out. --RockerballAustralia c 10:40, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Rockerball, I need an explanation on your comment. One beyond "No sleep 'til Brixton". --Brian McNeil / talk 22:58, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Promoting as successful per votes, with the IP address comment taken as a vote of support from someone most definitely not involved in any way with the production of this piece. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:53, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A really extraordinary piece. My favorite comment from the comments page:
- Excellent article. Best one out there on this subject right now and extremely up-to-date. Usually articles on this subject re-hash the same old ideas ad nauseam, but this was actually fascinating and provocative, as the title suggests. Gives me a new respect for Wikinews for sure. — 74.205.176.200
- Support as nominator. --Pi zero (talk) 16:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support--Hallows AG (talk) 06:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support as author. Probably the best thing I've ever produced (with some behind-the-scenes help). Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 11:14, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. More in-depth, more 'hard' scientific input, and a month prior to the BBC mentioing the same study. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:14, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Assuming DenDodge's vote transfers to "support" on the basis of carried-out grammatical improvements, thus promoting as successful. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:22, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've got a feeling that this article, though not completely "original", is one of the best works I've ever done here, and deserves to be a FA. アンパロ Io ti odio! 05:52, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Two things that strike me as odd in the English used here; "national chain" and "our dear fat". Can we get those fixed? Other than that, I'd be delighted to support. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Conditional support, provided the English is fixed. DENDODGE George Watson 19:25, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I think I've fixed everything (?) アンパロ Io ti odio! 00:57, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Would, perhaps, "our beloved fat [person]" be a better translation that "our loved fat [person]"? --Pi zero (talk) 01:04, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, I believe so. アンパロ Io ti odio! 01:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I made one additional copyedit. --Pi zero (talk) 02:03, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, I believe so. アンパロ Io ti odio! 01:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Would, perhaps, "our beloved fat [person]" be a better translation that "our loved fat [person]"? --Pi zero (talk) 01:04, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I think I've fixed everything (?) アンパロ Io ti odio! 00:57, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Seems solid enough. --Pi zero (talk) 02:03, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:11, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Would that we'd more contributors like Diego; many native English speakers need more remedial work on their submissions. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closing as successful; great article, meets all the criteria. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:38, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Self-nominating this article, because it's long, in-depth, original reporting, and probably the best thing I've written to date. I'm not sure what more I can say. DENDODGE George Watson 11:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I'm declaring an involvement before I vote; I offered a few suggestions behind-the-scenes here, and helped out with the emailing. Therefore, I approach with an inherent bias. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 13:09, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Would pass the mark even as in-depth synthesis; and, the OR is cool. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 13:14, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support What BRS said. --Pi zero (talk) 17:33, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support As per BRS, some suggestions on lines of inquiry were made; but, for news reporting that's by-and-large the best collaboration to have. The story holds together from one person telling it, and Dendodge did an excellent job. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Per BRS. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 01:53, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Not passed, but with individual articles potentially facing individual nomination. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:46, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Proposal: Delist old articles that have not been peer reviewed
Given the importance we place on verifiability, &c., maybe we should delist articles that haven't been fully {{peer reviewed}}. Of course, it's always possible to review an old article, by just checking everything and placing the template on the talk page, but I don't think we should be featuring things that have not been verified and looked over by a reviewer to the standards we currently require. This probably isn't the best place for this (and it's really only a very minor issue anyway), but I figured this is where it would receive the most attention. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dendodge (talk • contribs) 12:16, 6 August 2011
- Since the issue raised is one of FA status, imo this is the right place to discuss it. --Pi zero (talk) 13:55, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose Our archives do contain some really quite poor articles because there was no requirement that each one be scrutinized by a reviewer — but FA candidates presumably were scrutinized, by the community, so the lack-of-standards argument seems to me inapplicable to FAs as a class.
- It's not clear that our standards for the highest quality work have changed all that much. If there is concern with one or more specific FAs from the before, they should be nominated individually for delisting. --Pi zero (talk) 13:55, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose, but there are some that should probably be individually considered for removal. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 13:56, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose, per sound analysis by Pi zero (talk · contribs), diff. -- Cirt (talk) 05:25, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- With general support, no outright opposition and much time available for comment, I'm closing this as passed. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:18, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This was submitted previously, and there was some dispute due to certain people finding the article non-neutral and perhaps not understanding how things work when dealing with large corporation's legal and PR people.
As far as I'm concerned, this was the most comprehensive coverage of the issue, and I'd people from Wikipedia confirm their opinion was it did not breach NPOV. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Surely you meant to say "$6 billion in penalties" instead of "six billion penalties"? :( I hope that error is reversible under the archive policy, because this article at first glance looks great! I'll take a closer look at the NPOV claims if the error in the title can be fixed. Ragettho (talk) 04:58, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll defer to someone else's opinion, but as it is now archived a rename (leaving redirect) is technically possible. The NPoV "concerns" were that, shall we say, "I didn't 'assume good faith'" when I was directed to the blog of a lawyer supposed to be an expert on the matter; in reality, said lawyer was a paid lobbyist to the Canadian parliament, for the music industry. Numerous stated points by that lawyer were factually inaccurate - if not outright lies. The individual raising these concerns had no experience of Original Reporting, or of dealing with lawyers, public relations people, or spin-doctors. Brian (talk · contribs) (New Zealand) found those allegations unsubstantiated, or justified. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:51, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support After careful reconsideration of the issues raised. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 13:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support: There's really no NPOV issue here, IMHO. This is an excellent article, and it covers the issue very well (I'd be willing to bet it's the best coverage there is). The issues raised aren't enough to keep it from being featured, in my judgement. DENDODGE George Watson 20:30, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I'd have to agree with Dendodge here. --RockerballAustralia c 05:13, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closed as failing, with one dissenting vote. --Brian McNeil / talk 14
- 37, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Considering that the article is about a single event, I believe it covered the event properly and broadly. I had a heavy amount of OR and lots of photos (admittedly, the photo layout isn't quite as perfect as I'd like, but it's hard to get those photos to behave with wiki-markup!!) It may not be the longest article to ever reach FA status, but I think it hits all the needed marks. --Bddpaux (talk) 19:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Oppose It's a perfectly good article. I enjoyed it; simple, unassuming, and the pictures were fun. There's no need to measure it against FA status; it's happy being what it is, and simply doesn't move in the FA social circle. In terms of the at-a-minimum FA criteria, one would say it doesn't qualify as comprehensive. --Pi zero (talk) 19:54, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Well, as nominator, I suppose I'm morally obligated to support my own work! :] --Bddpaux (talk) 21:36, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose Pi zero hits the nail on the head; this is much, much too short even by the standards of the shortest FAs. Comprehensiveness is not achieved. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 13:13, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose On similar grounds to those expressed by Pi zero. I'm aware you favour short articles, and the only way I could see something of this length qualifying as featured would be with exceptional, and - of course - comprehensive, multimedia content. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Promoted with no objections at-all. --Brian McNeil / talk 20
- 03, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
While it is difficult to get pictures for this article, I think it meets most of the rest of the criteria. I believe it covers the article comprehensively and it is a topic the rest of the Australian media ignored when they were covering the federal budget discussion. The article was primarily original research despite the sources at the bottom as it required looking through the budget information to get details. Several opinions were also included from people in the Australian sport sector. Yes, kind of lame to say: NO NEWS! but they gave comments.
Comments
Can we get a final ruling here? --Bddpaux (talk) 04:57, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Votes
- Support As nominator. --LauraHale (talk) 02:58, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support; this is in-depth and, as stated in the nomination, covers an under-reported issue quite comprehensively. Part of the strength of Wikinews is getting away from following the mainstream on everything. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support As brianmc says. Comprehensive on an under-reported story. Some FAs have images as a particular strength, and this isn't one of those, but it does well enough; as noted, the topic isn't scintillating with opportunities for action shots. --Pi zero (talk) 13:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I felt this was pretty solid on review. Nice use of primary sources, too. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:47, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support ....save for one niggly little bit. The dollar amounts in that last paragraph get rather exhausting to read. (It's just a mind over numbers thing, that's all.) I'm all for inverted pyramid style, that's how it works here, but I'm not sure where that final paragraph fits into that model. In the end, though, I love to see any writer here going where others dare to tread. --Bddpaux (talk) 01:45, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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While very short, I think it covers the topic comprehensively in terms of an interview. The whole thing was original research from an interview with a pair of Australian Paralympians. We had written notes and sound for it. The article was worked on and referenced during the Wikimedia Australia Wikinews workshop. The topic is one the Australian media, because their commercial nature, cannot cover but we at Wikinews were able to. It has pictures that were taken specifically for the article.
Comments
As first time nominator for this, would it be okay to withdraw this as it isn't going to pass and I have better understanding of criteria? How would I do that? --LauraHale (talk) 22:49, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I can just close it down now. :) Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:05, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Votes
- Support As nominator. --LauraHale (talk) 02:58, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose This is a solid article. It doesn't feel comprehensive, though — a feeling about not the interview, but the surrounding non-sponsorship story. --Pi zero (talk) 14:00, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose Here's the deal:I'm gonna say No. Here's why: this article is a PICTURE-PERFECT EXAMPLE of how a slanted POV can creep into an article. See, I think that, for an article to reach FA status, that it really needs to adhere to both the LETTER and the SPIRIT of the law here. I liked this article....heck, I'm a social worker and I've spent GOBS of my life working with handicapped people. I like the take on things here and I'm sympathetic to their stand....this is insightful. But, just by the way it's presented here, a "big companies are bad"-tone slant starts to creep in. I might've even readied this article for publication, but it's just not FA material.......it just isn't, it might be close, but it doesn't get all the way there.....I'm sorry.Bddpaux (talk) 19:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- We may actually be talking about the same thing, at least in a sense; but, interestingly, while we've both taken the same position on the nomination, I don't agree there's bias in it. It's an interview, and as such it mainly reports what the interviewee said. What very little information is there other than what the interviewee said, I don't think supports a charge of bias. I don't see the "big companies are bad" slant you're describing. But here of course I'm coming back to my point about comprehensiveness: one way, at least, to make a comprehensive article on this subject would have been to expand it into the background of the issue being protested about, in an investigative journalism sort of way, and then there would be a significant amount of information beyond what the interviewee said, hence more to be careful of re neutrality. --Pi zero (talk) 20:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose for simple lack of depth. We have a handful of unusually short FAs; they are generally exceptional, really stand out in spite of their length, and are in any event significantly more detailed than this. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:45, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I nominate this article for featured status. Around late February and early March, I noticed a number of stories that were of high quality and brought a visual angle through the use of video. This article taps the C-SPAN video library and the U.S. presidential archive. It is one of several stories that are influencing me right now, and I'm wanting people to see it and tell them, "Hey, look what Wikinews can do!" Crtew (talk) 15:11, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support as nominator! Crtew (talk) 15:11, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, thanks very much for the kind words. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 15:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak support It's a bit borderline in FA terms, but the use of video is certainly exemplary. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Sure....y'know, content-wise....it is borderline just based on content alone to be FA.....but it's just so darned pretty! I say yes! Bddpaux (talk) 20:49, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Eh. Content-shomtent. It's long enough to me and it has two videos. So I'm ok with it. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 14:44, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Well written article. Well researched. Well done? :) --LauraHale (talk) 02:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, in the whole for same reasons as Laura; a well-written piece, and use of video is exploiting the online medium. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:49, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closed as SUCCESSFUL and promoted to FA.
- Was open a long time, not a single oppose vote. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:01, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Before the Syrian article (below), I managed to pull a bunch of video stuff together for this article. It also is fairly in-depth. So, subbing as potential FA. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support One of several stories around the same at Wikinews that broke new ground in combining video and print! Another great example of what Wikinews can do. In this, both the Sandra Fluke and the Syrian citizen journalist pieces, also stands out. Crtew (talk) 15:11, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, great use of citizen journalism, multiple types of media sources, and article compilation and construction. -- Cirt (talk) 17:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support This was fantastic research. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Appears to tick all the boxes. --LauraHale (talk) 03:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Cheeky support vote for my own article. Glad to see some of the comments here in the FAC, it's always good to push the envelope on what we can do. The main problem I experienced in creating this, and in other articles with video content, is time; transcoding and whatnot is slow. There is, if we're going to do more stuff like this, going to be a need to be able to throw quite a bit of CPU power at video clip rendering and transcoding. And, were we to start looking to do ~40-minute length items (a reasonable length for a 'real' news/current affairs programme), we'd need to have a back-door into uploading that onto Wikimedia Commons. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:06, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closed as UNSUCCESSFUL; requisite feedback obtained on the article. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:00, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't hold an enormous amount of confidence on this getting FA; I've written many a longer article, and done an awful lot of more detailed stuff. But, I would value the feedback that goes with an FAC review being applied to this. Essentially, I'm using the review process to (forgive the word choice) ask for a post-mortem on this article.
It's pure synthesis, which in my opinion/experience means our work needs to grind the mainstream press into the dirt. Does it do that? I'd completely forgotten about writing it, utterly forgotten and only noted it when looking for Human Rights stuff for unrelated reasoning. It didn't draw a lot of comments, but the two it did, indicate that the elderly people who've still got most of their bag of marbles likely found it a compelling read. Enough for FA? Dunno. But, we learn as a community; how, in a timely manner, do people think - if this doesn't merit FA status - it could have been elevated to that? --Brian McNeil / talk 23:03, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment Obviously hopeless for FA as-per the depth issues raised above, but in terms of feedback: This seems about as far as synthesis might easily go in this case. That's a long way from being able to trout mainstream. One possible pure-synthesis route would be to look for extensive background; off the top of my head, have issues like this been raised in Parliament? Has there been litigation from home care failures? Have charities been campaigning for these improvements? On the OR side of things, a few cool options also spring to mind; get some elderly English people on the phone, perhaps, or talk to a selection of MPs on their responses (bonus points for any politicians haned certain responsibilities relevant to this). Tracking down some people who actually provide home care would also be excellent. These are problematic OR targets in that both carers and their patients are likely to want to be anonymous. Nonetheless, these are my immediate impressions on what may have elevated this to exceptionally good. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Private Eye is chock-full of stories of major failings in the, largely privatised, care of the elderly. <cough>, <cough> Southern Cross et-al. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Well... I recall lots of care homes (Southern Cross, etc), but I'm not sure offhand how much home care. Although... I'd feel fairly safe assuming the answer to all these is 'yes'. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:12, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Private Eye is chock-full of stories of major failings in the, largely privatised, care of the elderly. <cough>, <cough> Southern Cross et-al. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- The article hasn't been archived, so is not at this time eligible for nomination. --Pi zero (talk) 20:22, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This one deserve FA if only for the EXCELLENT photos!! --Bddpaux (talk) 19:53, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Not eligible for nomination until it's been archived. ---Pi zero (talk) 20:16, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Support as nominator. --Bddpaux (talk) 19:54, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closed as successful. --Pi zero (talk) 16:57, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A fine piece of work, imho. --Pi zero (talk) 18:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support as nominator. --Pi zero (talk) 18:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support all is good. --RockerballAustralia c 00:36, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support as primary contributor. —Tom Morris (talk) 07:04, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Really well written piece. --LauraHale (talk) 07:49, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support As above -- CalF (talk) 23:46, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Fine piece of work. Was enough to get me to fire off a message to my local MP. Hawkeye7 (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closed as successful. --Pi zero (talk) 20:45, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I found this a fascinating look at the discovery of a new species. It certainly has great pictures, which have been useful for various topics on various projects. It appeals, I suppose, to the science geek in me. --Pi zero (talk) 01:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support as nominator. --Pi zero (talk) 01:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support --Gryllida 00:29, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Per nominator though I'm not a huge science geek. --LauraHale (talk) 13:54, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. We weren't first to report on this, AFP ran a small piece a little over a week earlier. But, going straight to the involved scientists gives a more-interesting read. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:37, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I have to agree....an excellent read! --Bddpaux (talk) 19:43, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose Does not seem like good reading material. Cmckain14 (talk) 18:35, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Very nice. Raystorm (talk) 21:01, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Fascinating article. Hawkeye7 (talk) 18:55, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closed as successful. --Pi zero (talk) 18:46, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Engaging interview. (Disclosure: I reviewed it.) --Pi zero (talk) 02:12, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support as nominator. --Pi zero (talk) 02:12, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support as a contributpr. :D I personally believe this is one of the best interviews I have done on Wikinews. --LauraHale (talk) 13:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Goes well beyond narrow sports focus, and probably is the best interview Laura has done for WIkinews. It's an engaging read that will still be relevant reading for a considerable time. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:29, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support It's well-written and interesting, and I enjoyed reading it.--Bill william compton (talk) 19:33, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support as contributor, really cool interview. Raystorm (talk) 12:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closed as successful. —Mikemoral♪♫ 06:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Self nomination, but I think it is a good summary of the merits of the three major bids for the Olympic Games, has a nice use of images, is comprehensive without being overly long and wordy. It also gives an idea of the process, which assisted in making it newsworthy. --LauraHale (talk) 16:52, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support I've the impression this may have been the best comprehensive coverage out there, other coverage being focused on some one bid. In any case, it is good overall coverage. --Pi zero (talk) 17:01, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support as nominator and major contributor. --LauraHale (talk) 13:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, largely for same reasons as Pi zero; this is where Wikinews can do well on news generally covered by the mainstream, as already-stated, the obvious reason to do so is to cover all bids, not just the one of a paper's home nation. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:27, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Excellent coverage. Hawkeye7 (talk) 18:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Closed as successful FA candidate, and promoting. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:06, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- How this one missed a nomination for five years is, ... Well' I'm nominating it now. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:12, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support as just the sort of stuff we need more of. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:12, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Yup. —Tom Morris (talk) 00:15, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, per the first support comment by Brian McNeil (talk · contribs), above. -- Cirt (talk) 00:30, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Support per rational provided by others. --LauraHale (talk) 20:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support When you're right, you're right. --Pi zero (talk) 21:33, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Agree. CalF (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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