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Requests for permissions (RFP) is the process by which the Wikinews community decides which users can have access to the administrator, bureaucrat, checkuser, and oversight permissions.

  • Users can submit their own requests (self-nomination), or
  • Other users can nominate a candidate.

Interface Admin

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Nominating myself as sysop who is frequently available to assist with editing pages in MediaWiki namespace if needed. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T378519 I can help with maintaining software and I also wanted to write a guided tour for new users. Thanks Gryllida (talk) 17:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your request for additional privileges. I appreciate the effort you're putting into improving Wikinews.

That said, I’ve noticed there are currently 48 pages marked for speedy deletion, 35 protected edit requests, and over 20 published articles awaiting archiving—tasks that require admin attention but seem to be falling behind.

I have three questions:

  • Question As an existing admin, how do you see your role in balancing these routine maintenance tasks, which are crucial to keeping the project running smoothly, with the development of new tools or features? Do you think prioritizing one over the other better serves the current needs of the community?
  • Question Has anyone volunteered to use your IRC bot that provides a similar, guided function?
  • Question You mentioned helping with technical issues. We currently utilize Flagged Revisions to control/protect published articles. However, Flagged Revisions is no longer supported (as mentioned here). Do you have any ideas for moving us away from Flagged Versions?

Thank you, —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 15:47, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. Should be brought up at AAA. Someone else did these things before, and I was not involved. For example, I did not archive anarticle before. I am traveling so if a request was made within last 6 days I would not be aware. I will be at computer in about three days. If nobody asks at AAA then I do not have an awareness of what needs to be done.
2. A few people used it. Only once. It is pretty big barrier for a contributor to join IRC. Then once joined it does not save progress in the case the user has bad internet. Besides, almost nobody knows the IRC bot exists. If there is interest, we can make a page with a list of software that requires beta testing. Then the page could be advertised in sitenotice.
3. The linked discussion is too long, please give me a more specific link about flaggedrevs specifically.
3a. As far as I know enwp and ruwp used it before to prevent vandalism as it is more efficient than edit protecting pages in some cases. Gryllida (talk) 19:00, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. Update: Speedy deletion mostly cleared; 'stale' is not a valid speedy deletion reason, whereas 'abandoned article with two days warning is' (as far as I know). Remaining inquiries: remaining speedy deletion requests, protected edit requests, and articles archival. Gryllida (talk) 01:37, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. update: cleared speedy deletion category Gryllida (talk) 07:07, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominating sysop who is frequently available to assist with editing pages in MediaWiki namespace if needed. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T378519 Thanks Gryllida (talk) 17:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks, but I'm unsure whether I'm fully qualified for the work intended by the role. --George Ho (talk) 19:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I accept this nomination, shall the role be permanent or temporary? On the safer side, I prefer temporary, like three months, six months, one year, or... —George Ho (talk) 04:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It stays on until WN:PeP. You may request another expiry if you prefer. Gryllida (talk) 10:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrator

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I am nominating myself for adminship on English Wikinews to assist with maintenance tasks such as combating vandalism, managing page deletions, and ensuring smooth project operations. I am committed to upholding community policies, support collaboration, and addressing technical issues requiring administrative tools. Through my contributions to the Wikinews project, I aim to help maintain a reliable and well-organized platform. I appreciate your consideration and am happy to answer any questions. -- ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 22:37, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm nominating myself as a sysop on Wikinews, I've a sysop on English Wikiquote for a years and find there's lot of vandals here recently without being blocked on time. I'd like to help this project by becoming a sysop. I'm currently familiar with sysop tools and knowing the project's policy -- Lemonaka (talk) 02:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question As an admin, how would you go about archiving published articles? What are the decision points to be made and what steps need to be taken? —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 13:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Oppose at this time. The thing is that I haven't really seen them around except in the last month or so, and hence I'm not seeing enough potential value right now. And for routine antivandalism alone, the global sysops tend to be really helpful in removing spam and vandalism so that makes their primary purpose kind of redundant. If their plan is to contribute by writing news articles and such, one doesn't need adminship for that. Leaderboard (talk) 14:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was encouraged to reapply for sysop by @Gryllida: on my talk page. I only intend to use the rights for routine antivandalism purposes (such as deleting pages - I've tagged hundreds of pages over the years, and have a fairly good understanding on what is and what isn't content plausibly suitable for Wikinews), and can help in technical stuff or abuse filters. I do not intend to create news articles or contribute on that front, however, though I may still make the odd copyedit or two.

P.S: I did apply for this back in 2019 or so with nearly the same rationale, but the community did not want an "anti-vandalism"-only sysop at that time. That's also why I didn't reapply for the right until now. Leaderboard (talk) 15:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for volunteering. We desperately need more active admins. I have two questions:

  • Question Would you be willing to do more than just anti-vandalism work that is needed from admins? For example, we need admins to archive articles as part of routine maintenance.
  • Question You mentioned helping with technical work. We currently utilize Flagged Revisions to control/protect published articles. However, Flagged Revisions is no longer supported (as mentioned here). Do you have any ideas for moving us away from Flagged Versions? —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 15:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Michael.C.Wright
  • That sounds like something that could/should be done by a bot flagged with admin rights, and indeed I think I should be able to code it up (for reference: I'm the author of a bot that runs on nearly 800 WMF wikis, namely the metawiki:Global reminder bot).
  • I don't think Flagged Revisions is the main issue - it's actually something that's extensively used on my home wiki, namely English Wikibooks and as you can see on the Phabricator thread, there's been significant work done in reducing the convolutedness of that extension. As a result, my feeling is that it's here to stay. Something that's more important is this project's use of LiquidThreads (or LQT - mw:LiquidThreads) - that predates mw:Flow which itself is in the process of being removed. The community needs to get rid of it urgently, and the simplest way is to replace with regular talk pages - mw:DiscussionTools has made commenting on regular wiki pages considerably easier.
Leaderboard (talk) 15:29, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The archive template says that archival is done by a bot. Is this not the case? Gryllida (talk) 22:34, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which archival template? Leaderboard (talk) 03:49, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the process: I randomly recalled seeing {{Archive-unreviewed}} on one of articles. I had another look and I see that this and many others were archived by hand. Can someone tell me the workflow for archival. What are the criteria? Is it supposed to occur 24 hours after publishing? Gryllida (talk) 04:23, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's kind of a mess. I've seen the following:
  • User:ArchiveBot_(usurped) automatically protecting pages - this was stopped at around 2008 or so.
  • The article initially being semi-protected, and later fully-protected. This is how it works now, and it's completely manual. I think initially after publishing, it's semi-protected, and after a week or so, fully protected. That's the general approach.
Leaderboard (talk) 04:59, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support BigKrow (talk) 17:41, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support We need more active and involved admins to support this project. The ability to code bots to do the tedious and mundane admin work is a force-multiplier. —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 16:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support It is a pleasure for me to work with Leaderboard. There are reasonable responses above including about flaggedrevs without jumping to assumptions or conclusions. Leaderboard is a technically competent user with clarity in communication including in challenging situations. There was a previous request for adminship which highlighted lack of involvement with other parts than spam, which was frowned upon; I consider the persistent involvement in this wiki as an indication of knowing the workflows and having an interest in improvement of constructive content here. Gryllida (talk) 22:41, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support I have no doubt that Leaderboard can be trusted with admin rights. And I think it is clear that Wikinews can use more active users with admin rights. --MGA73 (talk) 06:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-emptively requesting admin+bot so that I can start working on Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Leaderboard 2 and Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts#Requesting_edits_to_protected_pages_and_deletion_of_outdated_files amongst others as soon as possible; in particular, I prefer doing bot-like tasks on Leaderbot (rather than my main account). No issues if the community decides waiting is better, though.

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  • Support If Leaderboard is granted admin status so can the bot. It will ofcourse only be relevant if there is concensus that the suggested task should be made. Personally I think that it sounds like a good idea to have a bot that can archive articles. If it does not work in practice the bot can always be stopped and the admin rights be removed. --MGA73 (talk) 06:56, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    support for this request provided the botmaster is sysop at the time Gryllida (talk) 08:08, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bureaucrats

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CheckUser and Oversight

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To add a nomination for CheckUser


To add a nomination for Oversight


Removal

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  • {{Remove}} means "support removal of permission".
  • {{Keep}} means "keep permission".



Pathetic. Some people apparently need to get a hobby. This was not me. —-Bddpaux (talk) 03:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]