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This is not assistance request, more like a note about after this interesting story went stale. Seemed important on local scale. (and good to expose journalism related events at Wikinews)

  • There was a few days delay with initial report
  • Further delay with splitting into two stories, about Wikimedia Foundation actions and about HKJA announcement.
  • Then about HKJA announcement which was considered a less controversial (wrt relevance) story to review, there were no clarify of whether npov was met. There were multiple sources but all on Hong Kong side telling stories of how various journalists were abused.

Issues with how it was worded/phrased not neutrally remain.

I am trying to understand what prevented someone from rewriting this story and then another person publishing it. More to be written here in a bit. @Kitabc12345 @Cypp0847 Gryllida (talk) 01:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Kitabc12345 & @Cypp0847
I have re-read the article now trying to answer my question above.
  • Lack of precision of numbers. "Dozens". Is this what the report said?
  • Lack of precision to "what". "Faced threats and intimidation". This happens ... a lot or a little ... everywhere (should not, but it does). Perhaps the truly focal event is "faced increased abuse after a bill was passed by China". Then this timing needs to be clearly indicated and supported by specific nummbers in the first paragraph.
  • So if the first paragraph was like "HKJA reported a 300% increase of abuse directed at HK journalists since August 15, when the new XYZ bill was introduced by China, compared with orevious 10 years", then it would read as a clearer description of the event. Or "For the first time in 10 years, abuse exceeded 5 cases a year, with 50 abuse reports in the last two weeks alone". Or something. Quantitative.
Hope it helps. I kept trying to figure out what was causing my concern for publishing and this is probably main cause.
Has the union progressed anywhere with a campaign to reduce this abuse? This could be valid reason for a new story, which could reuse a part of the existing story for background.
Regards, Gryllida (talk) 10:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
  1. "Dozens" is the term used by HKJA and the media. The statement said families and employees of 15 journalists received threatening letters, along with neighbours and landlords of 8 journalists. Additionally at least 36 journalists were targeted online, while 3 were searched when entering Hong Kong by the customs. Given these information, by calculation we expect to have more than 51 individuals affected, but it's difficult to derive an accurate number because some cases might be overlapping.
  2. Perhaps precise examples of threats and intimidation would suffice. I agree that the timing is also relatable.
  3. There were unfortunately no statistics provided by the union in relation to the abuse cases in the past.
  4. The government has commented but only urging the union to report them to the police for investigation. There are limited follow-up discussions ongoing partly because, in my opinion, the political situation in the city.
Thanks Gryllida again for the comments, and Kit for the contributions on this report. Cypp0847 (talk) 12:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think it could be good cause for interview to the union asking for more quantitative information and how are they going to deal with it. Would you agree? If so, would you like to write a list of questions to the union? I'd be happy to have a look at the questions and share my feedback. Gryllida (talk) 02:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Kit has sent the proposed questions to you, fyr. Cypp0847 (talk) 05:56, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Hi @Keegan (WMF) is it competitive? i.e. if i apply for affcom. i have a little experience on two wikis and none of in person outreach. Gryllida (talk) 17:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Gryllida I do not know for AffCom, but Ombuds have historically been pretty competitive (or they don't like me); I've applied for like the last three years of so and always failed. Leaderboard (talk) 16:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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