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3 July 2007

I don't misunderstand anything

When this old article titled Flora springing into Spring in Mid-Atlantic coastal region, USA is vandalized by image deletion, in the form of an image of Bradford Pear trees that was once originally included in the article, then I question Commons cross-wiki ability for stability. (I can't prove what I am saying, that in itself is troubling).

My point is, why would you want to be associated with the minutiae that constitutues various projects goals? I'll upload a image for you. Do you want it? -Edbrown05 05:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Here it is... do you want it? I do. -Edbrown05 05:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Now that is all very interesting but for what purpose have you uploaded that image? I'm sure you are aware of the general policy against disrupting just to make a point.
It's all well and good to question the stability of Commons but our archiving policy here doesn't make us exempt from ensuring images are properly sourced and licensed. Whereas print media can't go back and change what they have published, we can and we must to ensure the images we use comply with the appropriate polocies.
It is completely unjustified to describe the deletion of image from Commons and the impact it has on articles here as vandalism as such deletions are always made with reasons and would be made in good faith.
I've looked at the article you mention and understand the image in question to be Image:Bradford Pear Trees.JPG which was deleted from Commons on the 17th August 2006 and note you uploaded it. The image was deleted, as I understand, because it lacked any details of what licence you released the image under. This is a perfectly valid reason for deleting the image so I would further disagree that this could be described as vandalism. If you ensure you upload images which comply with the relevant policies and guidelines they are unlikely to be deleted. Ultimately, in this situation at least, it is because you failed to do this that the image was deleted, and whilst I appreciate you would be upset that your image was deleted, there is no reason to take an anti-Commons stance because of a mistake you made. This does nothing to help Wikinews or the Wikimedia project in general.
I'd ask that you seriously reconsider your stance on this issue. 14:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Purpose is the point. And purpose is what Commons doesn't take under consideration. The only thing it takes under consideration is its licensing. -Edbrown05 09:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If I had wanted to use this [Babe Ruth statue image] for a news story, it would have been blasted by Commons, indeed it was, as a derivative and removed. Likewise, you seem are advocating at Deletion requests for the removal of Elmwood hotel images.

My "Bradford Pear Trees" image was deleted because of instruction creep, something that came after I uploaded the image. Do you do news? -Edbrown05 09:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons may chose to do images that meet only it's standards, meanining no 'fair use' images. "Fair" depends, therefore so does Commons uploads.-Edbrown05 10:05, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm afraid I don't understand what point it is you are trying to make in all that you have said. Adambro 10:35, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The point(s) I am trying to make relate firstly to the fact that Commons has no 'Fair use' provision. So why go somewhere with an image that users have no appreciation of what it is worth.
Secondly, The Commons community will delete images that meet news worthy goals, but not their own goals.
Thirdly, much of what is on Commons seems willy-nilly stuff seaching for a purpose to be there. What's the word, dross. That makes it hard to search since it accepts everything. I don't argue against Commons accepting everything that is properly liscensed.
I argue against myself adding an image there that is pure nonsense, noise, when it only relates to minor news event... "whilst" it should be understood that also minor is a relative word. -Edbrown05 07:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Delivered by your friendly neighboorood Thunderhead 08:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

4 July 2007

Posting photos from Wiki EN


I looked for a suitable photo on Wiki EN Commons to use in the 'poll' article, and I found the Rutgers pic. I tried posting it using the URL from Wiki, and only got a red link, not a photo, so I 'imported' it. Somebody told me I could post Wiki photos without 'importing' them. I don't seem to be able to. What am I doing wrong? Thanks! Emperor NortonXXIII 10:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Emperor NortonXXIII. To use images here it either needs to be uploaded locally, i.e uploaded to Wikinews as you did with that image, or it needs to be on the Wikimedia Commons which is the preferred location for free images as they can be better organised and accessed by other projects so only one copy needs to be maintained. Uploading freely licensed images to anywhere except Commons is deprecated and cross project consensus suggests using Commons is the best solution for such images. There are of course instances where free images end up on individual projects, such as this image which was on the English Wikipedia and it is desirable to move them to Commons.
What I have done is to move the image from the English Wikipedia to Commons using the Commons Helper tool which ensures the image page details are correct. I've now tagged the copies on the English Wikipedia and as Wikinews as been redundant to a copy on Commons and so these two images will be deleted.
To reiterate, only images local to a project or on Commons can be accessed from a project. Regards. Adambro 10:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh - so that image wasn't on Commons! I didn't even realize that! (smacks forehead! ;-) fnordEmperor NortonXXIII 10:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

6 July 2007


I recently submitted a very short note regarding the success of the Toshiba Transatlantic Challenge. I saw that, according to wikinews policy regarding article details, you removed the article. I throughly understand and respect that the wikinews community has standards regarding published articles and that you followed the policy and correctly removed the article.

In my humble opinion, the wikinews policy works *against* honest and fair article submissions. I understand that there is a "Request an article" utility - but what if no one is available to "write" and full-length article? What if a reader has a genuine news note - but there isn't necessarily a lot that can be written about it...?

Ultimately, in my opinion, strict adherence to an "article length" policy simply causes the wikinews readers miss information they otherwise might enjoy and find valuable and enriching. For me, I fully respect your authority on the wikinews site and the requirement to adhere to policy --- and... I'll probably not return to the site much...

Thanks and have a good day,

Crenra (

As you appreciate, the article is too short and doesn't provide the reader with enough context of the event to be published in its current state. By unpublishing the article and tagging it as in development, the hope is that an editor with more knowledge of the subject or time to research will edit the article to conform with the Wikinews policies and guidelines. In this respect, I'd suggest that the policies will, providing someone can modify the article to conform with them, ultimately result in an improved article. The article is not simply deleted, opportunity is given to improve it to the required standards. In particular, the article lacks multiple independent sources, a key requirement in ensuring a neutral point of view is made and the details can be confirmed. Regards. Adambro 19:45, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

11 July 2007

Legia receives ban; Rovers face Vetra

Can you check Legia receives ban; Rovers face Vetra. This is my first article and am waiting to have it checked to see if it's good enough. Kingjeff 16:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

12 July 2007


If after I rewrite the Accredited user policy page to not include from users who have made no original news story contibutions, I'm wondering, should that be something that is retroactive? meaning, then, you lost your credentials like an image does on commons. -Edbrown05 11:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would have serious doubts about your motivation for attempting to change the policy and it will be clear to other users that is more to this issue than first appears, your mention of Commons seems to confirm your issue is with that project, not a genuine feeling that the Accreditation policy should be changed. It appears you are attempting to make me some kind of scapegoat for whatever dislike it is you have for Commons, this will be plainly obvious to other editors here and I would hope they would quickly dismiss your proposed policy change to try to block my accreditation request. Other editors have had the opportunity to study my contributions and made their judgement as to whether they believe accreditation is appropriate.
I think you need to carefully consider whether your recent contributions, many of which are to criticise anything I have done, are really beneficial to the project. Attempting to put down Commons at every opportunity is getting tiresome and is a waste of both of our time. If you have an issue with Commons please raise it there, stop blaming me for whatever injustice you feel other Commons admins have done. Adambro 12:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You are mistaken about my genuine feelings. Frankly, I could care less about Commons. Accreditation policy is what I speak about. But I accept that I should not be making anybody a scape goat and obviously you are not, sorry for that arousal in me. I don't know how I will proceed or even if I would. It seems silly to grant accreditation to persons who have the opportunity to do OR without, and yet want it without doing it. -Edbrown05 08:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

15 July 2007

Adam Brookes

V6Engine requests development on my news. --V6engine 15:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To clarify, my surname is spelt Brookes. Anyway, welcome to Wikinews, I see you have begun creating the article Osama bin Laden appeares in video, I'll certain take a look at developing it further. One of the main points would be the addition of sources to verify the information in the article. You don't need to worry about contacting editors individually, by tagging the article with the {{develop}} template, editors can see it is in need of more work. Regards. Adambro 15:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry Adam could you clean-up my news? V6engine 15:22, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Adam Brookes --V6engine 15:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

19 July 2007

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Thunderhead - (talk) 21:57, 19 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

21 July 2007

poor leadership

Timid is a bad approach. Now, after questioningly going after and deleteing images displayed for public consumption by a private enterprise, namely in the excellent work done by DragonFire which was averted by him unwilling relicensing them to fair use, you want to go after images displayed by a department of the State of Virginia on a very old article that has had no skid marks until you came along, an article dated from October of 2005... what are you doing by adding this delete bias?: Copyright question. You are shameless. I'm ashamed of you. -Edbrown05 09:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Moving forward requires a little bit of boldness. You would have us sit beside the highway of life and watch it go by. -Edbrown05 09:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I will reply on your talk page. Adambro

A 'backwards' working "New Year's" resolution by the Board of Directors at WikiMediaFoundation on images is completely unappropriate here. Here is news. We cannot be expected to re-write the news? -->What are you insane?

Image policy was, or is, or has been moving target for me. I try to live up to commmunity standards, however maybe, sometimes I might make a leap. Or maybe I was asleep. But once an article is published and archived, that's where I would draw the line.

Move forward, that's how this community moves. Backwards has no meaning here. -Edbrown05 10:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As I've said, I am unrelated to this unregistered user who raised their concerns about this image, so I'm unsure why you are using this as an opportunity to reiterate what you have said in the past about the resolution however I continue to disagree that we can use the archiving policy as a barrier to ensuring our images are properly licensed. We are not a printed newspaper who can use the excuse that they can't change what they have published in the past when concerns over image use are highlighted. Our archiving policy cannot be used as a defence because it is physically possible to amend articles where appropriate. The archiving policy should be rewritten to take account of this. Adambro 11:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Archiving policy is not news. -Edbrown05 12:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm afraid I do not understand what you mean by "Archiving policy is not news". Surely all our policies aren't news...? Adambro 12:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There will be so much 'floss' contributed to wikinews that you will not know what to do with it. Start now, with a negative attitude, then... well I'm not going there. You want original? allow it to happen... in the meantime, or should I say earlier and lean time, that luxery was non-existant. So we did what we could. Beat up on the new writers, I dare you, and I stare at you. -Edbrown05 13:08, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Portals will happen. Copyright will be infringed on a regular basis. Wanna go there? -Edbrown05 13:37, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Like many of your comments these are also impossible to comprehend. Adambro 13:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It is kind of nice to know that somebody at oversight has the sense to "restore" a talk page. Sheesshh.. -Edbrown05 10:20, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Again, the cryptic nature of your comments prevent me from determining what exactly it is you actually mean. Adambro 10:25, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I checked in to see if anything happened here, and the content was deleted following my first 2 paragraphs. Suddenly, the conversation that followed from those 2 paragraphs reappeared. Okay, I'm dreamining, not. Oversight killed a conversation, and later restored it (on a talk page for goodness sake). -Edbrown05 10:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm afraid I'm not aware of any such changes. Adambro 10:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm afraid I am. Yes we have our differences, which disappeared (maybe I could have taken a screen shot to prove it to you). I've said ugly stuff. Oversight is it's own animal. I think it needs looked at. I'm an animal too. -Edbrown05 10:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've contacted a user with oversight on IRC who has checked the log and informed me that no use of oversight has taken place. Adambro 10:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There has been no oversight, or any deletions on this page Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 19:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

25 July 2007


I once argued very ardently for this site to be "Sticky". How rediculous I feel now. 'Sticky' has no meaning, relevance does. All these links to Wikipedia are perhaps unnessary. Pointers to where it is at is relevance. -Edbrown05 09:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not sure what you mean in all that but I presume this refers to my removal of plain links from Cindy Sheehan arrested inside Rayburn Building in Washington DC. The external link icon provides a useful symbol to readers that the link will take them to a site external to Wikinews. You say that you're reason for adding plan links is "because a penis symbol beside a link is ugly". Now, there must be thousands of external links on Wikinews, unless you intend to change all of them to plain links I think it is much better to not change any so as to ensure consistency between articles. If you feel so strongly about this issue then I suggest you campaign to change the symbol. I understand you have raised this previously on the Water cooler and it seems that didn't get very far. The icon does not look like a penis, or a male gender symbol, simply it is an arrow going outside a box. I suggest you leave alone unless consensus emerges that this is a problem. Adambro 09:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't intend to change history. Do you? -Edbrown05 09:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The history is that you have raised this before and there seems to be little consensus that this is a problem. If you still feel it is an issue, as it seems you do, then you should seek consensus by raising this again before adding the plainlinks class and thus not informing users that a link takes them to an external site. Adambro 09:52, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So you are a 'sticky' bitch. You don't understand the web. -Edbrown05 10:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adambro, excuse my intervention here. Remain civil, please. Thunderhead - (talk) 10:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

26 July 2007

Advice on image

Hello Adambro. I received a message from Commons letting me know that someone tagged an [image] I uploaded last month. I wonder if you could have a look at it, as I am not sure what the problem is. The message states, "This image is missing permission", yet it is a US Gov public domain image from [here]. I am not sure, therefore, how to respond. The warning says, "there is no proof that the author agreed to license the file under the given license." How does one respond to that for a federal US Gov PD image? Should I e-mail the U.S. Department of State for clarification? Sorry to trouble you with this! Cheers, Jcart1534 23:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nevermind, Adambro, a user on Commons fixed it up. All is well. Jcart1534 16:41, 26 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Glad to hear you've got this resolved, I'm sorry I wasn't able to look into this for you. I had a quick look at the situation earlier but am a bit busy at the moment so I can't always know when I'll get chance to do things. I am happy to look into such issues though where my admin status on Commons can be useful. Regards. Adambro 18:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

27 July 2007

Image interest

Anyone truly interested in who captured an image can click the picture and be directed to a page where that link exists. Should it be on the Main Page or a sub Page is the question to which I have no answer. But I do know this, self-promotion will not be allowed. -Edbrown05 16:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

News agencies are literally dying over an obsession to keep their own content in the forefront when it pales to other content that is available. Would going in that direction be the path that this place would take? -Edbrown05 17:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If we link, and certainly we should, let's do it gracefully and without a point of view. -Edbrown05 17:17, 27 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

28 July 2007


for helping clean up. feel like wielding the mop itself? –Doldrums(talk) 22:02, 28 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'd probably accept a carefully considered nomination. Adambro 10:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Thunderhead - (talk) 16:42, 1 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

3 August 2007

New Pages?

Hi! I'm new to the establishment. Could you give me a few tips on what to do (for beginners). Thanks. Onnaghar 19:19, 3 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

5 August 2007

By Order of the Cabal

I have granted AdambroBot a Bot Flag. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 06:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

6 August 2007

Interview with Tony Benn

See here, and please contribute questions. I'm sure you understand this is a coup for wikinews. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

7 August 2007


Hey, thanks for that. Sorry about the copyvios. Just trying to learn how to use this site! Now I know what to avoid... -- 11:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No problem, take a look at Wikinews:Writing an article for a guide of how to write a good Wikinews article. Adambro 11:12, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ta, will do that. Thanks mate. -- 11:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Coordinates template


Thanks for the welcome,. If you can help me to get {{Coordinates}} working, I'd be grateful. Andy Mabbett 16:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Looks okay now. Adambro 16:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. Andy Mabbett 16:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

8 August 2007

webworx stuff

Hi Adambro,

I was wondering why you removed our news. We were hoping to put all of our news releases up, including the launching of sites. Is this a problem? Thanks for your help, since we are new.

Webworx —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Webworx (talkcontribs) 18:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

12 August 2007

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Issue VI - August 12, 2007
Administrators and Accredidations

This week, no users recieved admin status from the community. There are no ongoing RFAs or RFBs.

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14 August 2007

Excellent Work

Just dropping by to tell you that you're doing an excellent job so far. A few more months of experience here and I'll gladly nominate you for adminship. Please keep of the excellent work :) Thunderhead - (talk) 11:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

too late! :) Adambro, i hope to see you accepting the nomination. –Doldrums(talk) 12:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I thank you both for the positive feedback about my contributors. I have accepted the nomination with some apprehension but look forward to receiving more feedback which I feel can only help me develop as a Wikinews editor. Thanks again. Adambro 12:55, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

15 August 2007


Sorry im on my work connection atm which is REALLLLLLY slow. Think a steward got most of it though. Happy reverting. --MarkTalk to me 11:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

what a mess

Need some help to clean up all this vandalisms?

OlivierEM 11:56, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry about the delay in responding, I think this issue has been sorted now. Adambro 12:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
no problem, it was not a complaint but a help offer :) It's a new type of vandalism mediawiki isn't really prepare for, I think. Those vandals are not from the habitual kid type, I think, they are not afraid of vandalism while registered and they seem to well understand the weaknesses of mediawiki... If it happens a few more times, maybe it would be good to think about a kind of red alert, giving the sysop rights to trustees users, say long registered xand many edits users, don't you think? OlivierEM 13:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
imo it would be better if there was a limit to the amount of moves per min per user to prevent this. prevention better than cure. --MarkTalk to me 13:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not sure whether it is possible to do that in the MediaWiki software and creating multiple accounts as was the case here would circumvent that. A possible measure to discourage this might be to prevent new users from moving pages until their account is 4 days old as is done on the English Wikipedia. I'd welcome your comments on this proposal at Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Recent_page_move_vandalism. Adambro 13:32, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

16 August 2007

Fahrenheit map

Hey, I really like your weather map (in fact it's being linked to on the main page), but do you think you could make a Fahrenheit edition for the people who prefer it? MessedRocker (talk) 12:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've got it working in testing but have yet to finish the development to enable me to begin running it on wiki. My internet access is going to be severely reduced in the next month or so due to a new job but I'll try to get it working before I disappear for a while. It shouldn't take me too long, I'll have a look at it later today. Regards. Adambro 12:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

21 August 2007

Admin status granted

Congratulations, you have just been made a sysop! Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

25 August 2007

Do you think it's possible to synchronize (someway) the en page with the italian one? :) —Tooby 17:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would be very happy to work towards providing the service to other languages although as my knowledge of Italian is non-existent I would require assistance in liaising with the community there to set it up. Would you be able to help with this? Has this been discussed with the community? Would running a bot require prior approval or is that only necessary to obtain the bot flag as is the case here on the English Wikinews. I guess my preference would be to run without the bot flag for a few days so that the community can keep an eye on the edits and then make a bot flag request. As I've noted elsewhere, I am currently in a new job which gives me little time and opportunity to contribute to WN and this will be the case for a few weeks. I don't think it will be too difficult to begin running the service on other languages though so I will begin looking into how to achieve this. Regards. Adambro 19:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
pl.wikinews wants it too. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:53, 25 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No problems at all. We will provide all the help you need (translation, localization, etc...). I opened the request for your bot on it.wikinews, so when you think it's ok, I will flag it immediately. It would be fine if you write a few words on your userpages. About the rest, you ask, we do. :) --Tooby 22:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You can add the city of São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro or Curitiba in this template? They are important cities of Brazil... João Felipe C.S 22:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey! how are you? i just would like to add the Bogotá Weather to the map. This could be the code: "Temp label|lat=4.65|long=-74.09|scale=-1|text=14|unit=c|tooltip=El Dorado International Airport (SKBO)" thank you! 01:51, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your message, I have made note of your request and expect to have it added by the end of today (Sunday). Adambro 02:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

1 September 2007

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--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

13 September 2007

Re: Blocking Edbrown05

I would strongly suggest you read those very blocking policies; they state that blocking should be a last resort, any only a result of complete failure of mediation (aka "educate").

I did not support his block for one week because of sockpuppetry. As a rule, I don't support punitive blocks. The fact that all of his "disruption" has so far occurred on talk pages leads me to believe that his disruption does not qualify as "excessive". Therefore, any block, in my eyes, is absolutely not reflecting policy and I will undo it.

Now, if mediation fails, and he continues to attack me or others, that's different. Note that I stated in my request to not block him: "Please do not block until we can successfully mediate this situation". If mediation is a bust, then block away, I guess.

I won't be the one blocking him; not only because I'm involved in the dispute, but also because any block I issue would be pointless (punitive) if it wasn't infinite. irid:t 14:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am really frightened by oversight. It is the cause of much ill-will at WP. I don't want to see it come over to WN. However it was that said: "we want to be proud of our history" does it no justice by erasing it. That justice needs to be pursued through what ever avenues are at hand. Willy-nilly editing by oversight is just that, it is a mistake against transparency. -Edbrown05 09:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Last oversight was 15 May on Eighteen found dead in a bus in Iraq, the removal of personal information. As I said on Ed's talk, oversight is used infrequently. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:45, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You are an instant asshole. -Edbrown05 09:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually, a long time asshole with all your image deletions, but you have shown your true colors (as friend of BriamMC) -Edbrown05 09:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

15 September 2007

Screw readers over

don't give them the full story, because you are being.... can I say it? stupid? -Edbrown05 11:32, 15 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

26 September 2007

My accreditation and your doubts

I'd like you to reconsider your vote and -if you can bring yourself to do so- change your "oppose" to "neutral". I do hope that an up-to-date accreditation will -as opposed to the out-of-date accreditation on de.- allow for access to press conferences, starting with the upcoming Frankfurt International BookFair in October where all topics are handled and interview access to dignitaries and interesting authors of many countries is possible.

From the moment of my updated user page, which predated my request, I've started being more active than before on both en. and de.wikinews, preparing my own articles and contributing to those of others, which I intend to continue no matter what, but which, as I hope, also lends credibility to my request. --Gwyndon 20:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

28 September 2007

Coordinate uptake

Not very encouraging :-( Andy Mabbett 18:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

3 October 2007


Perhaps I was been a bid bold, in my defence, I was falling asleep at the keyboard when I did that action. I will be more careful before closing any AR in the future. (in the past other users have done similar things fyi). Thank you for bringing your concerns to me. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

23 October 2007

Well, you were right, and I should have simply let the system do its thing.

I'd appreciate your thoughts on bringing Ed to arbcom. irid t i e 05:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edbrown05 Request for ArbCom

I've proposed a request for arbcom relating to the recent situation with Ed. If you take issue with being listed as an involved party, please remove your name from that list. Otherwise, I suppose you'll be expected to make a brief statement on that page. irid t i e 07:56, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

28 October 2007

Webcomics article

I think it was a bit tactless to propose deletion of the webcomics article. A reminder and link to NPOV was required on the talk. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

General Agreement. Seriously? Yes, we have an influx of new users, some of which are hostile. But that in and of itself is no reason to argue for the article's deletion, and while I'm at it, you don't have to treat me like I'm the problem just because I disagree with you on several counts of this. Jigsaw 18:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

29 October 2007


Can you please protect my userpage? -- Spiderpig0001 07:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

30 October 2007

Minor comment in regard to deletions

If the content of vandalism contains offensive remarks or profanity, it might be a good idea to not use the default deletion message as you did at Who recieved the nobel prize of literature in 1907 since it adds the offensive content permanently into the log. JoshuaZ 18:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

4 November 2007

Blocking of User:

You blocked all anons from User: (talkcontribs (logs)block (block log)) forever and ever and disabled account creation. Don't you think thats a little extreme being an anonymous user and all? Bawolff 22:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In fact, looking at his logs, what exactly has the user done to constitute vandalism. He has no edits, no logs, no deleted edits, and no warnings on his talk page. Bawolff 22:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The IP's one and only edit can be seen at The user clearly implies that they are a vandal and intend to disrupt the project. I understand your concern that the block may be excessive however, and would welcome discussion on what might be a more appropriate period. Adambro 22:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
When I looked through his deleted edits, I somehow didn't see that, and thought you were just randomly blocking for the fun of it ;). With his edit in mind, I think the 1 week block which you just changed it to is a more appropriate response. Bawolff 23:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply] has made some strange edits on Wikipedia, he should stay blocked on Wikinews as he could be a disruptive user/anon. FellowWiki Newsie 22:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The IP is a comcast IP that will be at least partially dynamic. An indefinite block is not such a good idea. JoshuaZ 22:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

9 November 2007

Can you also synchronize data in Russian Wikinews? I don't know what should I do to start a bot which will update weather. Please help me. Best regards, Flrn 07:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please add a link to the corresponding pages in the german wikinews (de:Vorlage:Aktuelles Weltwetter Celsius and de:Vorlage:Aktuelles Weltwetter Fahrenheit). We also have de:Portal:Wetter aktuell and de:Portal:Wetter aktuell (Fahrenheit) which also have a more detailled temperature/weather chart for Germany. -- 12:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done Bawolff 01:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

18 November 2007

More weather stuff

The Celsius map does not appear to go below zero. See the talk page. Bawolff 20:33, 18 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Am aware, will address some time this week hopefuly. Been quite busy lately so not been able to get things sorted. Regards. Adambro 21:42, 18 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

23 November 2007

More information on Adambrobot for weather

The Adambrobot for updating the international weather map is very interesting. As a PHP developer, I would like to know how this was developed - is the code open-source?

If not, can you atleast let us know which service is used for getting the latest weather from around the world? Like,, etc? 03:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please, explain what do you want

Sorry, but I don't understand what do you mean with "meaningful edit summary". I think that there is not a lot of things to say about this bot. It generates statistics and puts it at one page, nothing more; and I described that. If you explain me what type of answers you need, I hope I would be able to give them. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 09:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RE relicense

Heh...that one must have hid :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 07:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Weather in fi.wikinews

Could fi.wikinews get this great bot? I think we only need Celsius version, since Finns doesn't really use Fahrenheit. Thanks! --AtteL 18:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes that should be possible although I may need some assistance with the language. Would you be able to act as a contact for me in that respect and do any required translations? I'm a quite busy at the moment so can't commit myself to getting this running just yet but will try to find time to. Regards. Adambro 18:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'll help you happily with the translation. :) --AtteL 19:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Got some time already? :) --AtteL 11:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey Adambro! Our community is curious about the weather. Can you try to add it in our Wikinews? --AtteL 11:35, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's on the to-do list. Could you tell me if you have a process for adding the bot flag to my account fi:User:AdambroBot. Do you have any local bureaucrats or would I need to ask at Meta? In either case could you provide me with links to anywhere this has been discussed, especially anything which shows the community wants me to add this which would of course be useful in any bot flag request on Meta. Regards. Adambro 13:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It appears that you do have some local bureaucrats after all so this wouldn't need to go via Meta. Adambro 17:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC) Opps, look on fi wikipedia rather than wikinews, another check reveals no crats on fi so this will have to go via Meta, could you arrange a vote to run for at least a week where users can support or oppose a request to flag my account. Cheers. Adambro 17:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Celtic 1-1 Spartak Moscow

Excuse me, that image was free because I MADE IT!! Please add that image back onto the page. Celticfan383 13:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Are you referring to the image at Adambro 13:48, 9 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Admin page

Adambro, you inadvertently removed votes for BloodRedSandman when you updated the admin page. Cheers, --Jcart1534 23:48, 26 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hmm, I'm unsure how that happened but thanks for letting me know, I've fixed the mistake. Regards. Adambro 23:51, 26 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: Long term inactive administrators

Moved to User talk:Deprifry. Adambro 18:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]