- 1 Welcome
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- 4 Elizabeth Taylor
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- 6 Conductor Jeffrey Tate dies aged 74
- 7 Former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl dies aged 87
- 8 European Union conducts State Funeral for ex-German chancellor Helmut Kohl
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- 10 Re: 192m van rundown in Barcelona
- 11 I've left you a message
- 12 Re Spanish Police kills Barcelona attack van driver found dead among the victims
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Tempodivalse [talk] 19:46, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Cool. I've unblocked your bot. Please get it approved before letting it run arround by itself. If you're watching it edit, its probably ok to let it edit without approval. (at least for now). cheers Bawolff ☺☻ 20:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Hola Ezarate, felizmente su nota está ahora publicada. Arreglé un poquitín la traducción desde el español, lo revisé y consulté a otro revisador que lo publicara (ya que con tanto cambio que le hice, no podía hacerlo yo). Saludos, y gracias por contribuír a Wikinews. Diego Grez return fire 23:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Moving article's to review
- Hi. There is a difficulty with the article as you revised and resubmitted it.
- What is on the page now is, effectively, two separate articles on one page. We need to have one article. It may contain most or all of the same content, but it needs to be organized as one article. As it should be, the first paragraph — the lede — is a brief summary of the focal event; it should succinctly answer as many as reasonably possible of the five Ws and an H about the focal event, and in the process it should show that the focal event is newsworthy; I don't think there's a problem with newsworthiness as long as you mention the day of the funeral (which you do, atm). Then additional paragraphs provide details and background. There are different ways of arranging the later paragraphs; one might describe the funeral, then the death, then give the obituary information about Kohl's life; or one might put those things in some different order; but it all ought to flow well, when read through from start to finish.
- I'm going to not-ready the article, to make everyone aware of the need to revise. --Pi zero (talk) 21:33, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
I have some thoughts I'd like to share, about this.
- Not every article works out. It's frustrating all around when one doesn't. In this case, I see that you put much effort into it. Reviewer acagastya also put much effort in, yesterday, but things didn't come out as hoped. There is a bit of advice sometimes given, at en.wn, that I recall a Wikinewsie once phrased as "Don't marry the article." That is, do your best by an article, but at some point it will either succeed or fail, and either way, you will have to let it go and move on to the next article. When things go wrong — and, for that matter, when things go right — you want to learn all you can from the experience, so you can take those lessons with you to future articles.
- In this case, from what I understand, here are some things that caused problems. (I wasn't the reviewer, so I'm not completely sure I understood correctly.)
- When preparing a synthesis article, once a focal event is chosen, before starting to write, choose at least two mutually independent trust-worthy sources that corroborate the focal event, and read them all before starting to write.
- Although the information all comes from the sources (otherwise the article wouldn't be synthesis), the form in which it's presented must be original. The usual way of saying this is "use your own words", which is admittedly a frustrating way to put it. If you don't already know what is meant, being told to "use your own words" probably won't help. There is some compact advice on how to do this at WN:PILLARS#own. This is one of the reasons to read multiple sources before starting to write: it's easier tp say things in an entirely different way if one has already seen them said in multiple ways.
- I take it there were some criticisms (not just by the reviewer) that the treatment was biased by its choice of what to say and what not to say. We don't analyze, but we also should not mislead our readers by making it seem as if a significant side to a story wasn't there. This is another reason for using diverse sources.
Article on queue
- In fact, I suspect the article you translated from may have been translated from the one that's on our review queue here? --Pi zero (talk) 13:22, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Ups, I don´t realize of it, I though that it wasn't here because I don't see it in Recent changes, apologize the inconveniences. Regards!
Re: 192m van rundown in Barcelona
I've edited the article and left a comment. Interesting and controversial story. Please take a look and re-submit for review at your earliest convenience. Thank you. --Gryllida (talk) 11:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Re Spanish Police kills Barcelona attack van driver found dead among the victims
The recent event was that their dead body was found and identified. The leading paragraph needs to say this and have correct grammar.
The provided source says "Younes Abouyaaqoub was killed during an operation in Subirats, west of Barcelona, police said in a tweet. Police earlier said they had shot a man wearing an explosive belt, but did not immediately identify him as Abouyaaqoub." The headline is inaccurate then. It has a different meaning. It is my fault as I misunderstood what happened when suggesting it.