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LinkedIn[edit]

Are we sure I can’t use LinkedIn as a source, just because you can’t access it without an account? I’m severely limited in my Sirr article to what can be gathered from a profile which was last updated a decade ago. JJLiu112 (talk) 18:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is not why we can't use it. LinkedIn hides things behind paywall, and that is what is discouraged and well, we need to find other ways to investigate.
•–• 18:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That is true, however: Once a reporter is accredited, when they document (Talk page or via Scoop or whatever) that they saw/heard/read something, that is the verification. So, even something that is paywall'd, does NOT automatically disqualify it as a decent source. Now, historically, we want our readers to be able to visit/use/go to that source, sure.....but paywall doesn't NOT automatically make it non-usable. Just for the record. Of course, we require 2 sources.....so, if EVERYTHING in the article is just what the reporter says they saw/heard/read, that doesn't quite cut the mustard. It is a critical distinction.--Bddpaux (talk) 17:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Could I have another admin's word on this? --JJLiu112 (talk) 17:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It has nothing to do with admins. Please do not confuse between admins and reviewers. But no, whatever they hear is not verification, it is evidence. And that needs to be verified by the reviewer. And if a reviewer cannot verify the notes, records or recordings about an alleged incident, that is not considered okay. I had given the example before and i say it again, if i claim to have seen a message sent by Leo Messi and I write an OR about it; if I cannot back my claims, in pizero's own words, "there is no reason to consider those trustworthy." Our trust in ARs is for their notes, not for the facts they found. After all, they are looking for facts, not Joseph Smith's golden tablets.
117.198.177.144 (talk) 17:34, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure who wrote that, but as is often the case, things are merely being re-worded here for the sake of talk. Yes: things must be verified. You bet. Yep. Sure thing. I (as an accredited reporter here) watched live stream/live feeds of things, etc. I wrote down word-for-word what was happening or being said. My notes were placed on the talk page. Those notes were approved by the late Pi Zero (or whomever) as source material. Why? Because I have been vetted as a trustworthy person. That is how I became an accredited reporter. My notes, taken in real-time, serve to back my claims, because the community here has stamped me as 'approved'. In the spirit, we shouldn't get too wrapped up with paywalled sources, because all of that can be problematic. My notes ARE the evidence. Reading the notes is THE ACT of verifying the notes. This is also why we need 2 sources. If I saw Joe drop his spoon on the floor, and photographed it and made notes about it, if there is no other 'source material' to back up the basics of what I'm writing, then it probably wasn't/isn't newsworthy.--Bddpaux (talk) 19:14, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You being vetted as trustworthy does not absolve you from requiring to provide evidence. When reviewing your notes, I am trusting the source you used and your memory. Writing about something from a paywalled source and publishing it requires to put my faith in something I cannot myself see, let alone verify. And that is unacceptable. Gaining access to something which the reviewer is barred, and people generally are barred, is inadmissible. The reporter is trying to report without bias in an ideal case, factual; however, the info they provide is still dependent on the source they see. And paywall is a strict no. You want to go ahead and consider it by putting trust in it; go ahead. But I won't consider it verified should the information not be accessible to me. And that is precisely why we avoid the situation of ARs using "Oh believe me, I saw it" situation when they report something that cannot be verified from sources.
117.198.177.144 (talk) 19:32, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As I've tried to make clear, I'm not a big fan of paywalled sources, here or anywhere for that matter. But let's make it simple:before today, have we had any policies that specifically address the topic in terms of guidance for sources?--Bddpaux (talk) 20:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunate, considering that seems to be the most complete source of his work history. --JJLiu112 (talk) 20:12, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
While I'm here, I'd like to give you a heads-up, there's another OR coming pretty soon (interview on Thursday, probably will start writing it later that day), and I don't want there to be too much of a backlog, so if you could put the Sirr article further up your priority queue that'd be great. --JJLiu112 (talk) 20:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Remind me[edit]

.....it's fuzzy: What is the proper way to Wikilink stuff in an article? The syntax, I mean.--Bddpaux (talk) 19:27, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You should be using {{w}} for wikilinking. {{wikt}} if you want to link to wiktionary. {{w|Foo}} will create a wikilink to Wikipedia page foo, if [[Foo]] does not exist. If it does, it will link to local page. {{w|Foo|Bar}} will create a link to foo, but the display text will be Bar. {{w|Foo|anchor=SomeSection}} will like to the subsection "SomeSection" of the page foo.
•–• 04:00, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I get it now. Thanks. And: that new 'Revision Slider' thing is cool! I don't know who made it, but I like it!--Bddpaux (talk) 16:07, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have never figured out its use, and quite frankly, it just slows up the page so I don't use that.
•–• 16:08, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When you get a moment..........[edit]

Could you ask Gryllida to check her Talk page....I requested a 'Crat take action and it appears we currently only have one.--Bddpaux (talk) 22:39, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

She's been around here recently, but seemingly no action taken re: the RfP stuff. I contacted at least 4 Stewards at Meta, and only 1 replied. They wouldn't take action because we have a 'crat. But: well.........whatevs.......I guess we just wait......for who knows how long?--Bddpaux (talk) 15:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
She said she will look soon. However, if you do want to message her in real time, consider joining IRC. Use irc.libera.chat as server, and use a username bddpaux and then type "/j #wn-reporters". Depending on the time, you will find LivelyRatification, gry, mikemoral and me there. Mike is on #wikinews and #wikinews-en too.
•–• 15:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
CC @Bddpaux:.
•–• 15:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please review my article[edit]

Please review Floods in central China kill 25 when you can. Pizza0614 (talk) 00:54, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for changing the categories for my user cat! —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 01:09, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moving the cats was easy. Wikifying and fixing the sources was the annoying part. In case if you use pywikibot, the command is: `python3 pwb.py category move -from:"Mikemoral (Wikinewsie)" -to:"Chaetodipus (Wikinewsie)" -pt:0`. Make sure you use special:BotPasswords and enable editing protected pages. They need to be manually sighted.
•–• 04:22, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK.......[edit]

Go here: Wikinews:Credential verification Why is my email address wrong, but yours isn't?--Bddpaux (talk) 19:47, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bddpaux: it was manually changed.
103.48.105.64 (talk) 01:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

IRC[edit]

Could you get on to complete accreditation? --JJLiu112 (talk) 06:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you.........[edit]

.....still reviewing that COVID article? I might be able to finish it, but I'd need to hear from you in the next 20 minutes, or so. Very busy with work right now.--Bddpaux (talk) 15:09, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am having trouble finding some things, maybe because of rapid fact changes? Maybe if you can have a look, that would be better -- but the numbers seem ot be off.
•–• 15:11, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK....I will; always a pet peeve of mine when source organizations don't actually create NEW articles......they just endlessly tweak a standing article.--Bddpaux (talk) 15:15, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly: sources weren't too bad. I massage'd it a bit more than I care to, but it was a good submission.--Bddpaux (talk) 15:27, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't bad, but they had fluctuating numbers.
•–• 15:28, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bureaucrat[edit]

Gry did respond, indicating she'd voted (I couldn't see where, though).....but was a wee bit vague on when she might take action on the action for 'Crats. Any ideas on your end?--Bddpaux (talk) 15:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To make sure I understand..........[edit]

Once an article is reviewed/published, the article is to be Protected. Auto-confirmed users can edit/add/take away (those changes must be sighted), but only Admins. can actually MOVE articles, right?--Bddpaux (talk) 18:34, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bddpaux: yes, that is correct.
103.48.104.72 (talk) 01:06, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse filter?[edit]

Is that a bot? If so, how does it work?--Bddpaux (talk) 19:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bddpaux: it is an extension. If an edit matches a specified patter, those edits can be classified and further automated actions can be taken. More about it is here.
From a clean-up perspective, can you teach me how to do blocks? I should know how to do those.--Bddpaux (talk) 16:57, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Bddpaux: Do you mean blocking accounts whose edits were caught in the filter? Or blocking accounts in general?
•–• 17:04, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Protect??[edit]

Please make sure I did protection correctly on that Australia article I just published.--Bddpaux (talk) 14:49, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Let's try this again...........[edit]

What is the proper syntax for wikilinking (and why?) Why is the 'bad' way the bad way? Pandemic in that article took the reader straight to the Wikipedia article for the word 'pandemic'.--Bddpaux (talk) 01:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bddpaux: {{w}}. or you can scroll up, it was mentioned there.
103.48.106.234 (talk) 01:58, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK. So the way pandemic was wikilink'd took the reader straight to Wikipedia. Is that good or bad? Are we (by using any links) hoping to ONLY link them to Cat pages here at WN? I'm sort of trying to figure out what the 'crime' is here, so-to-speak.--Bddpaux (talk) 20:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I feel linking to pandemic was redundant. Not like they don't know what pandemic is -- {{wikt}} would suit betteer for that purpose if we really want audience to know what pandemic means.
•–• 03:16, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Catred[edit]

Re:this edit, I’ve seen how other wikis do this and it does not involve the ordinary REDIRECT magic word. They use a table but that is easily replaced by existing templates we already use, e.g. {{ombox}}. Very little of what I added matches other wikis word got word but there are obvious limits. Licensing differences don’t mean we cannot use wiki code. [24Cr][talk] 15:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Licensing difference also means we cannot use wiki code as it is as under the license -- but I don't understand why we need to make it look like other wikis? We should *NOT* have category -> category redirects, after all. So it makes it a very rare thing to begin with.
•–• 15:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The licensing differences do not apply to wiki code unless there is wholesale copying. For example, as far as I know, there is only one way of putting in a condition like {{#ifeq:0|0||. It would be impossible to do that in my own words because those are the words needed for it to work. I agree we should not copy things wholesale but this is a snippet for an unavoidable thing. I’m not trying to make it look like other wikis except to improve wherever possible. As for whether to have category redirects, I have seen several categories which we don’t need because there are more relevant categories e.g. Category:Missing citations has not been used in a long time because we use the Sources template. I’ve redirected it to Category:Sources. Then there is Category:OTRS which needed to be moved to Category:VRT but we shouldn’t delete the old category because it might still be linked to from elsewhere. Finally I’ve moved Category:Interview to Category:Interviews which wouldn’t work well if I’d deleted the original category. So I’d say we need a redirect template to clarify to other users. To be fair, you must have had a reason to create the template in 2018. [24Cr][talk] 17:13, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, of course, those things are too simple to be copyrighted, I assumed we both had that in the back of our mind. When I created it, pi said we won't really require it, because cat->cat redirect is highly discouraged. But he didn't delete it, and it is sitting there, without any good use. Don't know what to do, but yes, your edits seem all right! Cheers!
•–• 17:31, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Team categories[edit]

Not so much encyclopedic as trying to bear in mind the unresolved discussion at Category talk:Cristiano Ronaldo. [24Cr][talk] 09:45, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

IRC[edit]

I've tried to reach out multiple times on IRC, so I'll do so here as well. Could we arrange a time to do the review process, or, if necessary, expedite the process to another reviewer? --JJLiu112 (talk) 22:13, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I ask again, could we find a time? --JJLiu112 (talk) 19:59, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And once again, could we find a time? @Acagastya: --JJLiu112 (talk) 17:11, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And yet again. --JJLiu112 (talk) 20:42, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Switching accounts[edit]

Hello, it's ICameHereForNews. I am now using this account because I have decided that I would like to use this account as my global account. Could you please move my old userpage to my new userpage? CheatCodes4ever (talk) 21:23, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, please do the same thing with my talk page. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 21:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@CheatCodes4ever: I think you should put {{doppelganger|CheatCodes4ever}} on user:ICameHereForNews and user talk:ICameHereForNews. Moving seems to be something I am not sure about; because the account wasn't renamed.
103.48.105.78 (talk) 07:51, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I would like it moved is because I would like to have the history and content of my userpage. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 20:16, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I'm going to use a global userpage now. Could you please delete my userpage? CheatCodes4ever (talk) 00:49, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:61417197c2766.image.jpg copyright violation[edit]

@Henrymyman: and @LivelyRatification: as well; This file, in use on Inter-Korean communication lines restored, is a copyright violation. As has been repeatedly established in various deletion discussions on Commons (example), images from the Korean Central News Agency are not available under a license compatible with Commons requirements. I recommend immediate removal of this file from this news story. Best regards, --Hammersoft (talk) 12:38, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Hammersoft: It'll be replaced then. Henrymyman (talk) 12:49, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. --Hammersoft (talk) 12:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Per archival policy, we can't replace the photo post-24-hour mark. We need commons admin to delete it (@Cromium:) and then we can mark that file as {{missing image}}. •–• 13:17, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Recent attacks in Afghanistan[edit]

Hello Acagastya, how are you doing?

Please see d:Q108905779 - as on some other Wikinews versions, both the recent attacks may be "wrapped" into one single article (to keep the topic "fresh" at the moment it is published, in line with your policy here). De Wikischim (talk) 22:18, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@De Wikischim: hi. If someone could translate and write it here (English sources would be greatly appreciated; as we don't have fr/nl speaking reviewers), maybe one of us could review. I can't promise anything, since I am pre-occupied for my exams. 103.48.104.51 (talk) 04:45, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

@Acagastya:, I just started working on Wikinews and I do not have enough experience. Thank you for help. Miladtayan (talk) 08:48, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Award of Journalistic Magnificence[edit]

The Award of Journalistic Magnificence is given to writers who complete a substantive body of work or series of articles, primarily focused on matters of national and/or political significance for any given nation. This extremely overdue award is being given for two particular groups of articles: match reports for football (soccer) and interviews with scientists, which you’ve been writing for a number of years. The award is also to recognise your reviewing work and admin tasks. Thank you very much for your efforts and I hope you will continue to do so well into the future. [24Cr][talk] 15:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, @Cromium:.
•–• 11:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you enjoy blocking accounts?[edit]

Does blocking accounts make you horny? Oh baby! Does it make you feel good at night? Is it better than porn for you? You know you want to rub oil on the people who you block. You filthy pervert. The only reason you were made an admin is because you can't give a decent bedroom performance. I recommend that you spend some time at the gym and eat something healthy (maybe an apple) instead of Kentucky Fried Chicken.--10s and Thunders (talk) 02:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@10s and Thunders: jokes on you, I am vegan.
103.48.104.14 (talk) 03:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions Wanted!![edit]

In WHO classifies new South African variant of COVID-19 'Omicron' as 'Variant of Concern' a new section can be added which would include recent updates about the news. For e.g. ==Recent Developments==
Is it okay to add it? 2006nishan178713 (talk) 16:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@2006nishan178713: news articles don't do "recent developments" -- that is encyclopædic. News articles are snapshot in time and therefore should be focused around that. If you feel there was a recent development about the new variant -- there should be a separate article discussing just that. See these articles for example Pakistan's National Assembly passes bill to merge Federally Administered Tribal Areas with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Provincial Assembly votes to merge with Pakistani Federally Administered Tribal Areas, Pakistani President signs bill to merge Federally Administered Tribal Areas with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
•–• 05:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

I didn't understand this. Can you please explain?? https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Russian_President_Putin_visits_India,_signs_major_trade_and_arms_deal&diff=4652547&oldid=4652546&diffmode=source2006nishan178713 (talk) 05:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Understood 2006nishan178713 (talk) 06:21, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2006nishan178713: which dollar is it -- better to specify.
•–• 11:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request deletion[edit]

Please delete -

@2006nishan178713: consider tagging for {{speedy}}.
•–• 11:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete[edit]

This article is to be deleted today Killamarsh, UK quadruple murder suspect also charged with rape 2006nishan178713 (talk) 05:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

'Chess engine' article[edit]

This article has been floating, unpublished for quite some time. Do you plan to take some action on it soon? Perhaps move it into a Sandbox maybe?--Bddpaux (talk) 16:44, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My status[edit]

Hi ... long time ... sorry. Unfortunately I cannot commit enough time nor be reliable enough to be a bureaucrat. I will try to check in often enough so that I can remain an emergency sysop. I hope all is well with you. Cheers, --SVTCobra 03:11, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikinewsie[edit]

https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Cloud_VPS_2021_Purge#wikinewsie

You know better than me on whether that's still in use. Leaderboard (talk) 12:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A request[edit]

Could you please delete my talk page? I would like to use my old talk page instead, but then move it. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 22:39, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Which one? You have quite a history. --SVTCobra 02:07, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The one I linked to. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 07:04, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I should clarify as I know what page you want deleted, but what is the talk page you want to move to that space? Also, this is a highly unusual procedure. SVTCobra 12:09, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@SVTCobra: Sorry for the late reply, but I would like User talk:ICameHereForNews renamed to User talk:CheatCodes4ever. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 04:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse filter[edit]

Hi, I think Special:AbuseLog/15502 is a false positive for the cs-spam rule. Cheers, --SVTCobra 17:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It happened again. Special:AbuseLog/15503. --SVTCobra 13:59, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You may wish to consider excluding talk /ns:1 from the filter. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:18, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I have removed all the complex string matches in the second half of the filter, and that didn't trigger the false positives when retested, though did let through one of two positives. Probably better to restart building those sort of straight string matches anew as they are always a little hit and miss. Also noting that that sort of spamming for /38 has stopped for a while now. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:16, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How we will see unregistered users[edit]

Hi!

You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

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Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

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We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Unused files[edit]

Hello. Doing some background admin stuff and saw these files you uploaded a few years ago. They are not in use anywhere and seem to all be marked as fair use although they also have free licenses from yourself. Can I ask what you intend to do with them?

Cheers. [24Cr][talk] 18:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To be moved to commons, @Cromium:. Just that I was going to use either pywikibot, or the APIs, but that is stalled.
•–• 09:01, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. No worries. [24Cr][talk] 09:48, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Test page[edit]

Where can I put the Test page or sandbox?--47.234.198.142 (talk) 23:20, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We have the Wikinews:Sandbox if you want to test something. [24Cr][talk] 00:28, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary change to article length[edit]

Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current proposal. The minimum requirements for article length will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! [24Cr][talk] 23:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse filter[edit]

Hi. Any ideas for how we can improve the spam filters to stop this wave of phone number spam? Cheers, --SVTCobra 16:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SVTCobra: I have added a rather loose rule in #37, which I hope should work? If it does not, ping me here and I will check?
•–• 16:24, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving[edit]

Uff. You have just gone and done what Cromimum and I were avoiding. See User talk:Cromium#Archiving. --SVTCobra 06:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is 10 or a week, as pi used to put it. But if we are sticking to 12, let's put out two quickly, then!
•–• 07:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We were experimenting with trying to fill the whitespace on the front page without a hard and fast number. Cheers, SVTCobra 14:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That depends on the size of the lede. It grows and shrinks -- so that is going to be a rather difficult task for rather trivial problem -- white-spaces will depend on screen-resolution, browser CSS and what not. Is there something more to it, or are we just trying to minimise the white-space?
•–• 10:30, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It was mainly to eliminate whitespace for aesthetics and evolve Pi zero's philosophy of keeping the list longer than the policy strictly proscribes. Cromimum was viewing on a phone and I on a computer, and things lined up. But I can see that things do change a bit when I use the zoom feature on my browser. SVTCobra 16:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The white space is going to be enoromous on phone, (it is not visible if you use m.wikinews as compared to desktop site), if you change skins, or have custom CSS (I have zoomed in, and large fonts for better reading), that will be affected too. Ten + few should be okay, but more than 15, that starts getting too long, imo. •–• 16:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested edit[edit]

Please edit User:Acagastya/popup.js to remove the redlink "Category:X1" example. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should be done now.
•–• 18:14, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re: accreditation[edit]

Thinking of going out—wondering whether I can be forwarded a final copy of my WN press pass. JJLiu112 (talk) 15:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I got a new phone, and now no longer have access to Authenticator for WN login, which means I cannot review OR articles (cc @LivelyRatification:) or make any e-mails. Please can we coordinate a time for troubleshooting. JJLiu112 (talk) 05:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@JJLiu112: Feel free to send me any alternative email if you have one to forward on the correspondence to. LivelyRatification (talk) 05:56, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please forward to jjliu112@yahoo.com. JJLiu112 (talk) 06:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@LivelyRatification: JJLiu112 (talk) 06:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@JJLiu112: Hi, sorry I didn't get to this, was busy all day yesterday. Given the election has happened already, I think the article would be stale, but I've forwarded it on. LivelyRatification (talk) 19:58, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@JJLiu112: I am hoping your phone number hasn't changed since (I don't remember our discussion of the blood group, so sending one with and without one -- you can fill up at your own leisure if you like) -- please check your email which I will send shortly.
•–• 06:19, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@JJLiu112: please PING me on IRC (acagastya@libera.chat) in about 12 hours from now? (Regarding the email problem.) That should be around 1:30 PM in US/Central?
•–• 06:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've school tomorrow. Does 22:00 work (08:30 New Delhi time)? JJLiu112 (talk) 06:56, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
22:30 or 23:00 would still be better, yes. TC link. •–• 07:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have downloaded the images. Thank you very much. JJLiu112 (talk) 06:57, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary change to freshness[edit]

Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current proposal. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! [24Cr][talk] 17:40, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WN-reporters[edit]

I can log in to my email account at wn-reporters.org, but can't actually send an email. How is the status of things there?--Bddpaux (talk) 22:20, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Calendar updates ...[edit]

Is that you or a bot? I know some people want your input on things. Cheers, SVTCobra 07:16, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, long time since we interacted! Good to see you! Anyway, Pi zero and I debated Wackynews in the past. He convinced me it is best left unused. It is far too subjective what is "wacky". Is drinking cow urine bizarre? I don't know, but it is unusual and may not make sense to other people. Doesn't every religion have something that most other people would consider bizarre or wacky? "Wacky Muslims walk in a circle around a stone block in the desert" or perhaps "Wacky Christians think Jesus came back from the dead". Also, the use of Wackynews could be seen as personally disrespectful. If a person died in a freak accident (and 'freak' is a loaded term, too) which was highly unlikely, is that Wackynews? I wouldn't want to read about a relative of mine dying in an unusual manner being consider wacky. I do not know where there are archives of these discussions, but the idea was to keep the category because it has so many old stories and even subcategories, but to stop using it in new articles. I am certainly open to more input on this topic, especially since Pi zero is no longer with us. Cheers, SVTCobra 04:07, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you OK?[edit]

Hi, haven't seen you for a while. Are you alright? Gryllida (talk) 23:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Protection Request[edit]

I notice that you are one of the more active Admins on this project. Would you be able to semi-protect my Talk page to only allow autoconfirmed users to edit it? LTA IP accounts are spamming me and also repeatedly trying to hack into my account (multiple failed login emails). Xania (talk) 04:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- SVTCobra 11:23, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

==維基新聞2022 == 供您採取行動:https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Cloud_VPS_2022_Purge#wikinewsie Leaderboard (talk) 2023年1月3日15:13(UTC)

Are you be right?[edit]

How are You? My friend. I hope to reach some plans and cooperation from various wikinews language programs... But I'm surprised to find that you haven't appeared for a long time. Are you okay? Greetings, happy New Year, I wish you good health and peace...--Kitabc12345 (talk) 05:54, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I seem to have made an error in the above post. Sorry, I didn't mean to. QwQ Kitabc12345 (talk) 05:57, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. We've created Wikinews:Writing contest 2023, which will start on February 1 and end on May 1. It is modeled on the successful 2010 and 2013 contests. As a reviewer and accredited reporter who has recently been inactive, it would be a great time for you to rejoin. If you are interested in signing up, please do so at Wikinews:Writing contest 2023#Entrants and create a category for the articles you submit. Heavy Water (talk) 04:00, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy[edit]

So happy to see you log in. I've been struggling to keep up with the spam. How are you? SVTCobra 06:52, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Email.....[edit]

What is the state of our WN Reporters email account? Is it still active? I am having trouble logging into my account.--Bddpaux (talk) 17:01, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'd like to also reset my password to wn-reporters email please. Alas, I lost a hard drive last year with my wn-reporters email and ssh access info. (Note: in this instance 'lost' means I still have possession of it; it's bricked as a part of the laptop melted.) Regards, Gryllida (talk) 23:36, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I guess too late to bring you all in a ping, but I can look into it tonight. Sorry for being AWOL, folks.
115.242.145.126 (talk) 11:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Glad you're still alive! What is the status? I need a password re-set for my email account.--Bddpaux (talk) 20:41, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just checking in... I need to access my email... as do many other people.--Bddpaux (talk) 16:45, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For some reason, I am locked out of IRC, @Bddpaux, Gryllida:, how can I connect with you guys to get back the access? •–• 06:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
did you get back onto irc? Gryllida (talk) 16:26, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. I don't really mess around in the IRC world.....sorry. Can you contact me via email to give me my wikinewsie email log-in credentials? --Bddpaux (talk) 20:50, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Got your email... thanks. The re-set didn't work, though.--Bddpaux (talk) 15:28, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And, furthermore: I would be glad to help you with the co$t of maintaining that space/service.... just tell me how I can do that.--Bddpaux (talk) 16:53, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Bddpaux: what do you mean the reset didn't work? It was supposed to be done at "https://mail.wn-reporters.org/" -- and just put the username (that is, if your email was foo@wn-reporters.org, just enter foo there, then the current password. Then the new password.)
2401:4900:1F29:4263:4C15:9A2C:3D72:6BE2 (talk) 14:42, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Acagastya:Yeah, well: it appears I've lost my old password. Can I get a fresh re-set, please?--Bddpaux (talk) 21:02, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Acagastya: Hello?--Bddpaux (talk) 18:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS[edit]

Dear interface administrator,

This is Samuel from the Security team and I hope my message finds you well.

There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed policy governing the use of external resources in gadgets and UserJS. The proposed Third-party resources policy aims at making the UserJS and Gadgets landscape a bit safer by encouraging best practices around external resources. After an initial non-public conversation with a small number of interface admins and staff, we've launched a much larger, public consultation to get a wider pool of feedback for improving the policy proposal. Based on the ideas received so far, the proposed policy now includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, best practices for gadgets and UserJS developers, and exemptions requirements such as code transparency and inspectability.

As an interface administrator, your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on the policy talk page.

Have a great day!

Samuel (WMF), on behalf of the Foundation's Security team 23:02, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you asking this here? Would the proposed policy change affect any of the gadgets at this wiki? Gryllida (talk) 16:27, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! This file does not have a license. Perhaps you could add one? Also I'm thinking most of the ComicCon files should be moved to Commons. If they are free they can be used on other wikis. If they are derivative works then they should be deleted anyway. So there is no big risk moving unused files to Commons. As I understand it Commons allow most files now. It is mostly a problem if the photo show a mask. --MGA73 (talk) 14:50, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MGA73: It appears the organizers of that ComicCon forbade Acagastya from using media produced there anywhere but at Wikinews, yet Acagastya said above they had planned to export all those to Commons. Well, I don't know how that'd be compatible with the restrictions given. At any rate, I've copied over the licensing used on other files in that cat to this one. Heavy Water (talk) 18:02, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Heavy Water according to c:Commons:Non-copyright_restrictions#"House_rules" that is no problem for Commons. However it could perhaps limit the future access to making good photos if the organizers of that ComicCon find out and is upset about it. --MGA73 (talk) 15:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DEFAULTSORT and EzPR[edit]

Can I ask why you did this? It seems to me we'd want to keep DEFAULTSORT, especially as the DPLs think an article was published on the day DEFAULTSORT was added, so adding it after the day of publication creates problems — I've seen admins add DEFAULTSORT to archived articles like your 'Rock and roll never dies': Italy wins Eurovision after 30 years, pushing them to the top of the DPLs (which is why WN:ARCHIVE says not to). Heavy Water (talk) 18:42, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please take some time out of your busy schedule[edit]

Dear Acagastya,

Hello and I hope you and your family are doing well.

  • I'm getting digital ocean failed payment receipts
  • Lacking access to wn-reporters, either via
    • ssh or
    • scoop email,
as my previous laptop melted and hard drive died

Could you please take around 10 minutes out of your busy work or family schedule and investigate.

1) For ssh access my new pubkey is included below.

ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABgQDII+mNsj5JW5bDVL0qS+H5fHwqWrmfKxOcZ0e5Cmr5o5ueb7ZveE4+sRTp6May8/gXdv5/LEbX0gfKhDBWBA8n5N86QL2l47wdubs1Ot16N5Z4BGfA46uVJpOuzMumkiBp08s1E5uAPzpgJ65YPOu0VvYxthBm0V3ZDiDVZ4Y8TMiYCJes3GFkwyy+og7Wmcyxm5BHAL3X/bfoVc568BXvsiZZwZsLiFYQEQcdtAU3M6CTfjaw/F2VE1lBU7vA6GWHnWl0NIDvLNg1hVUwZ/TXvb9Co+I/Na9S6XM0Xb2WsoHvggIxPi1EACckJDHXAHP9VA8Dg9bjUjKKdUKkHQwXi4cKDtw95TCYNWFUt+9N+7bVOmivH9lQ1dfU++kbQXNQ2Tck8u2YtGia8kN95t6RcMCAdPadl77vUyTBaOQBddlpEl5FYiCkhmg7BvMsUhuqITy9t4QOytUVVTPfHXCt0xo4x2BGil4cr29wcV38LPVShSh18tD411GDwOBT1CM= ADUNSW+z3480510@L-B2HDRG3

2) For digital ocean payments I will require my own digital ocean account to be added to the list of people who can pay bills for wn-reporters. My digital ocean ID is "svetlana.tkachenko@fastmail.com" and it may or may not work. Testing may be necessary to see how this will work. (This may require additional time from you at around the time the invoice is due, or repeated follow ups in case it doesn't work and requires support from DigitalOcean.)

3) For scoop email I believe that I require a password reset, ...

3a) ...and instructions how to set and reset passwords for other users such as new reviewers.

Many many thanks and I hope to hear from you soon. Gryllida (talk) 00:08, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gryllida, did you try Acagastya's link for a password reset? Heavy Water (talk) 05:29, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Don't have my current passphrase. Gryllida (talk) 09:00, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I had emailed you, do you require a new one? •–• 12:53, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The SSH key was added (for the `gry` account, not the `svetlana_tkachenko`.) You can check groups(1) for both. •–• 12:58, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Freshness on this interview[edit]

Hi, I was wondering if you could advise, when you have a chance, on your assessment of this interview's freshness; it was conducted (by a newbie) on August 25. With the not-ready-revise-resubmit cycle (which included another reviewer judging it stale on September 26 but then agreeing with my disagreement with that assessment, after which I left it untouched for a while because it'd seemed they were going to re-review it) and myself getting distracted with other reviews (prominently, this), the first month or so in which I'd be comfortable with the freshness for its sort based on precedent vanished. And, now, even if the author is able to respond immediately to my latest query on the talk page, I don't feel comfortable with it. :S Heavy Water (talk) 16:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Heavy Water: a quick glance at the interview, it doesn't pass the WN:SG, and it looks more like a promo, tbrh. I am not comfortable with the tone. But given there isn't an immediate expiry of freshness, should those problems be addressed, I don't see why it can't be moved forward.
•–• 04:27, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. I'll take that into account if and when I do a full review on it. Heavy Water (talk) 05:08, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Use of geocats on cats[edit]

Sorry to occupy your time with this. I think these 2019 discussions were where I got that notion from. Pi zero said therein, "[G]eocats themselves usually only belong to the next category up the ladder: Category:Boston, Massachusetts belongs to Category:Massachusetts, but not to Category:United States nor to Category:North America; which is done that way to avoid cluttering up the list of subcategories of the larger geocats." (here, the same principle is treated as not just usual, but SOP). Later in the same discussion, he extended it to categorization of other cats: "Re geocats, as I already noted, the category relations don't get transitive closure: if he's [Robert Dziekański, beaten to death by police in Vancouver] in Vancouver, he wouldn't be in British Columbia, nor Canada, nor North America; we'd choose one of those." (For what it's worth, I agree these shouldn't be categorized into geocats higher than the lowest-level to minimize clutter. It seems to me that's a main reason we would subcategorize within the tree, instead of their existence being simply for collating articles for and providing more specific reader-facing DPLs.) Heavy Water (talk) 19:14, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For categories, yes, it should be just one higher-up, but we even had discussions for country-level, because states will be many a times empty, other than a few popular places.
•–• 04:43, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, so you're saying a geocat's only parent geocat would be next-level, while, say, the Delhi Sealing Drive cat's would be the Delhi NCT and even India? Heavy Water (talk) 18:54, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, that was my mistake. 2401:4900:1CC4:C3FB:88FD:55C0:33ED:D599 (talk) 19:22, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question about DR and comment about bot[edit]

Hi!

There is not much action on either Wikinews:Bots#Requests or Wikinews:Deletion_requests#825_sxw-files. With no active crats I will try to ask a steward on Meta about the bot flag.

Is there any chance you could have a look and decide what to do with the DR? If I'm granted a bot flag it would be nice to know if the sxw-files are to be deleted or not. If they are deleted I will skip them. If they are to be kept I will fix them with my bot.

The background info is now located at Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance/archives/2023/August.

Thanks a lot --MGA73 (talk) 14:39, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source of files[edit]

Hi! You have uploaded some photos in Category:Acagastya (Wikinewsie). You have not added a source. Are you the photographer? If yes perhaps you could chose a free license instead of fair use? --MGA73 (talk) 09:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you're referring to the Tippu Express images (which are the only source-less images I see in there), they are credited to "Mysore Division, South Western Railway" by the relevant articles. But I also note this. Heavy Water (talk) 04:51, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Heavy Water. Yes it was those. --MGA73 (talk) 12:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Heavy Water and Acagastya, I fixed File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (1).jpg. You are welcome to check. Can copy to other files once checked. Template:GODL-India does not exist here on Wikinews so I made a link instead. But I think we should have the license here too. --MGA73 (talk) 19:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

social media[edit]

Hi, Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#social_media_for_reviewers_and_authors_and_developers may be of interest to you as a reviewer, thanks and regards, Gryllida (talk) 05:52, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Any chance you would relicense those photos and remove the NC and ND? If not they need a fair use rationale. --MGA73 (talk) 10:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting a review[edit]

Hello @Acagastya, I'm new to Wikinews and have been looking for someone to review my first article, submitted on Saturday here. Unfortunately there are few active reviewers, so I am trying to reach out to see if it can be reviewed before it goes stale and gets deleted.

I'm interested in sticking around and contributing more, so I would be happy to review one of your future articles in return if I can become a reviewer in the coming months. If you aren't available, I was wondering you could approve Asheiou's RfP so that they might be able to review it?

Thank you, --Habst (talk) 19:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]