User talk:Cirt/Archive 2

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Congrats

I see you've been granted Check User so well done & well done to everyone for getting 25 votes! Use it wisely. Regards.   Tris   20:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! –Juliancolton | Talk 20:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
congratulations. Smile.png Tempodivalse [talk] 21:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Cirt (talk) 22:55, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Now you're CU, I've got a short list of people that need... Investigating.... mwahhaha --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 23:22, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • If nobody has been in touch with you about getting on the checkuser-l mailing list, give Cary a shout. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Subsection concerning my opposing vote

Please do not think for one second that that I didn't trust or that I don't trust you now. The simple fact is that I do think you will be a great check user, and further asset to the Wikinews community. My dissent was based solely on the number of users with CU status versus my views on how many check users we should have. I said here that I did not think you "would abuse the tools in anyway ... , however, the number of CU users is already high enough. That said, if one or more the existing CU withdrew they CU status, I would see the need for the Cirt to get the tools as he is a frequent contributor/admin." As you have now been promoted to CU, this line of discussion seems pointless, but please remember that I fully trust you and now that you have the tools, I fully support you're having them as it was decided by the community (both Wikinewsies and others) and one of the foundations of Wikinews is collaboration and general agreement about things I'm not going to go against that trend just because I though 5 check users was one too many for this project. (On a side note, if you're CU vote had come on WP, I would have supported it in a heartbeat, as I realize that the English Wikipedia is far larger and needs all the help and support it can get.) So again, good luck. I know you will use the tools well and I hope you have little occasion to, for as far as I know, CUing is only when problems arise. Oh yeah, congratulations. Calebrw (talk) 04:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Cirt (talk) 04:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

w:Template talk:Recent death

I'm pretty sure we've got all the input there's going to be on this for the moment. Anyone strongly opposed to the change to link to Wikinews could probably still decide to assert there is no consensus, so I'll leave it to you to decide if you want to highlight it on the WP Village Pump, {{editprotected}} it, or make the change. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

checkuser

Can you get the abusive usernames and couple of nasty trolls and post details to checkuser-l? I'm kinda busy and they seem like known vandals who tend to use open proxies. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay have to run out now but will do in a couple hours, good point. Cirt (talk) 13:18, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
most posts on checkuser-l contain the log details. The useragent details can do a good job of tying vandalism from different wikis together. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah alright, sounds good. Cirt (talk) 11:29, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Dates

Please don't forget to bump dates on articles before you publish them :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:32, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Good point, okay. Cirt (talk) 20:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Former U.S. Senator Norm Coleman diagnosed with Bell's palsy

Thanks for the help clean it up. I guess I just don't mind dashes as much as some people do. The other thing is since it was probably written by a Rich Kupchella -- a former TV news anchor -- it may have had a bit more of a broadcast style to it. Calebrw (talk) 21:38, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for working on Lightning strikes Mumbai. But it has failed review. I am searching for sources. Can you help me by making the article non-copyrighted? --Srinivas 06:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Make lead removing page from watchlist

I confirmed it happens to me to. This is an issue with the api. I've filled bugzilla:20816. Bawolff 00:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Cirt (talk) 02:41, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

FYI - DEFAULTSORT

Adding DEFAULTSORT to an article resets when the article was added to a category. So adding it to an article from 4 years ago, makes it show up at the top of DPL's it could be included in. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 03:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Lots of things reset the DPL to a category n stuff, so far, I have not heard of a solution for that yet. Cirt (talk) 04:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

New Rhode Island articles

This seems worthy of a story, but I'm no good with business stuff. *hint* :)Juliancolton | Talk 21:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

LOL! You want me to write a Rhode Island article? I'll try to sit down with some time in a few hours and slap something interesting together... Cirt (talk) 21:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks great, thanks! –Juliancolton | Talk 19:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. ;) Cirt (talk) 19:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Project INDECT

I need all the help I can get on this. Take a look at the in-prep article text, the video, and my notes on the talk. At the moment I'm going to look at the NeoConOpticon report - will be speaking to the author in the next couple of days. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Creepy stuff. I will take a look. Cirt (talk) 17:03, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

New user

Hey there. I would like to contribute to Wikiquote, but I'm not really sure of the guidelines and policies here. I'm an active editor over at Wikipedia (User:Netalarm), but it appears that there are some differences between the two projects. Could you point out some things that I need to know? Thanks. Netalarm (talk) 07:16, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey, you realize this is Wikinews, right? :P Cirt (talk) 07:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Meh, I'd like to contribute to both. xP. So many projects tend to get just a bit confusing =D. Netalarm (talk) 20:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Heh, no worries. We could use good article writers and reviewers, here at Wikinews. :) Cirt (talk) 20:51, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Canadian news doesn't interest Prime Minister, prefers to watch American

The above article's problems didn't take long to fix, so I went and did it. Could you re-review? Thanx Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 21:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Hrm, actually I see a bit more POV, moment... Cirt (talk) 21:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Regarding space

[1] = I see a significant whitespace underneath the infobox when the quote is on the right side (maybe it's due to my rather low 1024x768 screen resolution). Perhaps you could consider moving the quote back to the left side (and moving {{HYS question left}} to the right side, to balance it out)? Cheers. Tempodivalse [talk] 18:46, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I see everything perfectly, I don't think anything is wrong with the current layout. I looked at it at multiple different computers. Cirt (talk) 19:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps this looks better for you? [2] Cirt (talk) 19:16, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that looks a lot better, there's no whitespace in that version. Thanks. Smile.png Tempodivalse [talk] 19:31, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Fairly popular

Enjoy --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 02:39, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Cirt (talk) 04:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Poetlister

You did the block on poetlister (talk · contribs). Can you comment on the Water Cooler before xe sends me another unblock-begging-email?

When I first got one a while back I asked a few people on IRC and got a general, "you want to accidentally mark that email as junk and forget about it" hints. I could not be bothered wading through all the linked-to Wikidrama, and I have zero interest in arguing about cross-project bans or authority. Based on contributions here Poetlister was okay; but, sockpuppeting? What's the "pop psychology" diagnosis? Megalomania? Planned vote-stacking? Would we face someone creating two personae to write and review their own stories?

What does the evidence suggest? I doubt access logs go back far enough to checkuser Poetlister's contributions here pre-block. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:36, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Tea

☻ Someone has poured you tea

You welcomed me on Oct 21. Can you help?

Please help me with the article British Climatic Research Unit's emails hacked (talk). I've not created it, but I hope you can suggest something and/or review it. Q0k (talk) 09:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Suggest contacting Brian McNeil (talk · contribs) regarding the points that could be addressed. Cirt (talk) 09:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
But he is an involved editor, as you can see:[3]. I need help of an uninvolved editor to publish the article. Q0k (talk) 09:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
These is what Brian McNeil says at the talk of the article: "I'm also not about to review it (again). The way the story came up prejudiced me against it". Q0k (talk) 09:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes but he might have advice on how it can be further improved. Cirt (talk) 09:45, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
You see, Brian McNeil (talk · contribs) does not want to see this article again: "I'm also not about to review it (again). The way the story came up prejudiced me against it". Q0k (talk) 09:54, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
You are now making me repeat myself. He said he would not review it again. That does not mean he would not offer advice on whether or not it has been improved since his prior review. Cirt (talk) 09:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
At the talk page, you see that that user is busy now. While we are talking here, the news is getting 5 days old. I hope there is a way to work a lot and to publish it today. But I'm a novice, I have done everything the "to-do" list at the talk page of the article has offered. Help? Please? Q0k (talk) 12:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you anyhow, the article has been published. Q0k (page, talk, contributions) 05:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Block of Anthony 5432

Hi Cirt! Could I ask why specifically you blocked Anthony 5432 (talk · contribs)? Your block summary wasn't very specific. Was he socking? Just curious. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 19:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

[4]. Cirt (talk) 19:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Cirt, just popped by to say thanks for your support in my RfA. the wub "?!" 23:45, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

No worries, Cirt (talk) 06:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Please see Wikinews:Deletion requests#December 26.2C 2009

You recreated a previously by-consensus deleted category. I have nominated it for deletion again and highlighted the important NPOV reasons laid out in the prior discussion. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:32, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. Cirt (talk) 04:23, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


Flood flag

Better use it if you're doing that cat. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 21:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, good point, but I'm pretty much done now. :P Cirt (talk) 22:00, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. I'm sorry I was so quick and blunt, but I needed to get it in fast. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
No worries, Cirt (talk) 22:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

user:Cirt/top

Just a heads up, using <div class='float_in_title>....</div> (instead of the big long style='position:...') will work in all skins, as opposed to just monobook. Bawolff 01:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Can you fix it? Cirt (talk) 01:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Done Bawolff 01:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! Cirt (talk) 01:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Billion Year Contracts

I've read the emailed OR stuff - looks good. I copyedited the lede and intro and have scanned through to check the quoted interview is substantially accurate (not as nitpickily as I read in the original document). Can you work Hubbard into the intro to move that wikilink out of her question answers, look at the comment on the talk about appropriate corrections - there's the example, some inappropriate capitalisations, and probably a few other points you could correct without altering the meaning in any way or (sic)ing her.

Can you do that, as well as try to cut out all wikilinks in her answers and keep those in your questions to a minimum (eg, list in intro the other preceding publications). This is mainly to minimise people's temptation to wander off in the middle of the interview.

You may have done some of this - give me a shout, about for another hour, possibly two, and I'll review and publish. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Deletion request

Hi Cirt. Would you please reopen the discussion you just closed? The debate didn't last for the normal three days given to other articles going through PROD, and I had an unanswered question. Benny the mascot (talk) 01:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Nope, sorry. Consensus was quite clear, unanimously so, for deletion. Cirt (talk) 01:37, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but the discussion was only open for a day, preventing other less frequent users to express their opinions. In addition, an unanswered question indicates that the discussion hasn't finished. Benny the mascot (talk) 01:41, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Feel free to ask that particular question at that particular user's user talk page. Cirt (talk) 01:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Questions on deletion procedures are best directed towards closing admins, which in this case is you. So since you insist on keeping the debate closed, I shall ask you: why wasn't the article allowed to go through PROD, and why did you close the discussion early? Benny the mascot (talk) 01:50, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
  • You want the answer Benny? You should've asked me. I nominated it, and – if you looked at it, and the god awful cesspool sources used – then you should understand perfectly clearly why it was nominated for a swift and ignominious death. I will not go into details around the checkuser results on the team of sockpuppets that kept trying to build a fake consensus, publish what they'd written with another account, or talk up the trash. Wikinews doesn't need it, your question was stupid if you had not reviewed the article talk page, the article's edit history, and the fact that virtually every contributor to it, plus several IP addresses and proxies, all got blocked or permabanned. Redtop journalism is garbage; it isn't even fit to use to wrap your fish and chips in, plus they probably use toxic ink that comes off on the food - the actual printed content is indisputably toxic. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:42, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Yea, um, that. Cirt (talk) 06:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
People write terrible articles all the time, and when they do, we just fail the reviews and delete them through prod! And when we DO have a deletion discussion, everybody should at least have the opportunity to voice their opinions! Benny the mascot (talk) 18:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

undeleting {{ready}}

Hi, just a heads up, I undeleted {{ready}} since its linked from a lot of pages, and redirects generally don't hurt. ezPeerReview does recognize it (actually it recognized {{ready}} {{review}} {{breaking review}} and {{under review}}). There was a bug introduced when adding i18n support for FR that caused it to not replace the review template when reviewing articles. It should be fixed now. Cheers. Bawolff 01:05, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

No worries, Cirt (talk) 03:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Upcoming articles

  1. tardis
  2. conlang
  3. author interview
  4. free speech interview
 ;) Cirt (talk) 21:10, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: nice job

Thanks :) Wasn't too bad for my first article. Just have to keep an eye on what categories i should/shouldn't be adding in. Wizardman 20:07, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Single source policy

The single source policy doesn't apply to local news. See {{single source}}. Also, I would appreciate it if you give details on what exactly I need to copyedit on the article you just failed. Benny the mascot (talk) 12:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Probably best to get more eyes from additional reviewers. Cirt (talk) 13:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Although {{single source}} says local news doesn't have to follow the multiple-source policy, I've noticed that in practise, that's almost never done. Articles with one source/publication cited will almost certainly get tagged, regardless of how local they are. Tempodivalse [talk]
  • The key text on the single source template is (emphasis added): "Exceptions may be possible". Not a carte-blanche to publish from a single source due to something being ultra-local. An element of discretion is required to permit reviewers to critically assess a single listed source which may be very closely related to the author of the Wikinews publication. As Cirt knows, there are very good reasons why WN:AGF is a redlink. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Nod, both comments have some good points. Cirt (talk) 20:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Search engine optimisation spam - abuse filter

You seem to have developed most of the abuse filter entries; is there one from Wikipedia, or can one be created, to watch out for terms related to using search engine optimisation where there are multiple links to external websites not included in appropriate templates? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Another currently common one is martial arts related nonsense. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:26, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
How about just try adding all those links to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist? :) Cirt (talk) 15:37, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Because the modus operandi is: Create domain, spam for about a week bax, once blacklisted create another. The same spammy text is always used though. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:57, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Ohhh. I would suggest asking for advice from w:User talk:Werdna - and/or at w:Wikipedia talk:Edit filter. There are folks there that are much more experienced than I. :) Cirt (talk) 16:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Hat hab at en.wikiquote

[copied from my talk]

Hi Bawolff, I hope you are doing well. See my "test" subsection, here [5]. Perhaps you could tell me why the Hat/Hab templates are not collapsing what is inside? Cirt (talk) 04:20, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Your missing the required javascript. (specificly stuff relating to navboxes) From which wiki did you get the template? Bawolff 23:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Thank you

Your welcome. Happy Editing Cocoaguytalkcontribs 22:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Your Support for my RFE

Thank you Cirt for your support. I won't let you down. PSD27 (talk) 19:40, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Note

Hey Cirt, just a heads-up as an arbcom member, there's a case that's come up that needs your consideration. [6] You're the only one who hasn't commented yet, thought I'd just make a friendly ping. Smile.png Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 03:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Commented there, thanks. ;) Cirt (talk) 17:05, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

IRC

I saw you privately ping me in irc, but i was AFK at the time, by the time i returned you were gone. :-( Was there something you wanted to contact me about? Tempodivalse [talk] 20:43, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Got advice on something from someone else, thanks though. -- Cirt (talk) 21:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Rubber stamp

It looks alarmingly as if you recently rubber-stamped a bunch of articles, publishing five in less than fifteen minutes. Our reputation — and therefore our future as a project — hinges on the fact that we absolutely will not ever publish an article without a rigorous review, even at the cost that some articles go stale and are ultimately deleted because they weren't peer-reviewed in time. (See Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/archives/2010/February#How to peer-review.) --Pi zero (talk) 20:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Wholly incorrect assessment. I read and reviewed them earlier. They were up for over 10 hours or so. -- Cirt (talk) 21:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Glad to hear it. And yes, I was aware of about how long they'd been waiting. --Pi zero (talk) 22:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 22:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Block of OP

Hi Cirt, just a heads-up that I reblocked 69.39.232.101 (talk · contribs) to indef, more in line with our current practise. Feel free to revert if you disagree though. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 00:17, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Current practise? As defined by? Griffinofwales (talk) 00:49, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
? ... in other words, we've always blocked open proxies this way. Tempodivalse [talk] 00:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Five years, or indef, either way is fine with me. -- Cirt (talk) 00:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Sports Prefixes

Could you please take a look at Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Sports_Prefixes. Please give your thoughts there. Calebrw (talk) 18:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Clusterfuck

I assume you have read everything on recent moronic activity?

If you have email enabled, I will be in touch once I get to work because, frankly, I think several of those who severely escalated this into a people leaving and getting de-privved issue should, themselves, be subject to votes of confidence. They did far, far more damage than I - and I now cannot checkuser our latest vandal/abusive username. --Brian McNeil / talk 05:59, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Okay. -- Cirt (talk) 11:27, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

nice ;-)

Wish you'd write more; you could do with some practice. ;-)

But, a classic headline to dig up. --Brian McNeil / talk 05:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Cirt (talk) 05:01, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Scientology article question

Cirt, I have a question about part of the article you wrote at Talk:Women reveal accounts of forced abortion in Scientology if you wouldn't mind taking a look. Thanks! Either way (talk) 03:32, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

International Committee of the Red Cross condemns Gaza blockade

EPR didn't sight. (After all that.) --Pi zero (talk) 03:47, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

A quick note

Please see Talk:Car_bomb_attack_in_Iraqi_town,_at_least_two_dead_and_45_injured#No_verb_in_title. Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 09:36, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Nod, agree with both comments there. :) -- Cirt (talk) 15:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Janwikifoto comment

Dear Cirt, you have to read the Discussion page for the story Talk:UN to protect free speech on internet to see the changes, and the points that I do not understand. If you make an affort to sxplain, maybe I can write a few more stories. --Janwikifoto --Janwikifoto (talk) 19:45, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

CU request

I know, this is painful. Those checks need done, otherwise the people who picked the "fluffy bunny wallpaper" win with the idiocy that is AGI.

Skenmy's exceedingly terse response does not take into account the blocks & checks around sundry socks associated with this permabanned user. IIRC, I had to go as far as a block of a /10.

As you will see, as evidence builds, piece by piece, Xe - the troll - tries to retreat for a later attack. The interview is fiction. God-only-knows who the Japanese-looking woman in the pictures is. Look up the purported interviewee on a non-misregistered CC site. It looks like the interviewee photos are about 5-10 years older than the PR ones.

Good luck with this one, it is a mess. You have my private mail, you can as-appropriate ask others who will not share result. And, to close, you need to look at the non-user CUs I performed around Saqib, and related users blocked. You are talking about a lot of sweaty socks. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom case filed

Hello! I've filed a new arbitration case. Benny the mascot (talk) 16:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. :) -- Cirt (talk) 09:22, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom

I have nominated you as a candidate in the current ArbCom elections. Please see the sitenotice, and be sure to clearly accept or decline the nomination. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:02, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the nomination! -- Cirt (talk) 09:22, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

election certificate

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Election Certificate

The election committee for the 2010 Arbitration Committee election certifies that this user was elected to be an Arbitrator until July 31, 2011.


Benny the mascot (talk) 19:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Note to self - cleanup stuff

Cirt (talk)

RfCU

Per here, please respond. This, I believe, should be treated as a serious matter. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:35, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Researchers find moonlight influences owl monkeys' nocturnal activity

See talk thread #Serious errors. --Pi zero (talk) 07:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, might be helpful to also notify the user that wrote the article itself, for future reference, at the user's talk page. -- Cirt (talk) 16:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks in return. Being at least as absent-minded as the next entity, I appreciate reminders. As it happens, I did. --Pi zero (talk) 16:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Checkuser

PacketFactory (talk · contribs) has just popped up and made exactly the same kind of attempted Peer Review circumvention as Mike3620 (talk · contribs) in an effort to get xyr propaganda published. Can you run a CU please? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Can you post a request, to WN:RFCU? -- Cirt (talk) 15:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Done Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 16:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

but...

Alviner (talk · contribs)

That comment is a seo/spam link methinkst. - Amgine | t 05:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Possibly, but only one edit so far. Please do monitor and keep me apprised above it, or generally admins at WN:AAA. -- Cirt (talk) 06:01, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: WN:RFP

Replied. :-) --Diego Grez return fire 19:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 19:14, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Adding info

Please don't self-review when you add info; per WN:REVIEW somebody else needs to do it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Really? It's pretty simple stuff, each diff is tied directly to the source. -- Cirt (talk) 19:18, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Really. Otherwise, you effectively bypass peer review. Which is A Bad Thing™. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Alright, okay. -- Cirt (talk) 19:27, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Early archiving?

...fifteen hours early? Pourquoi? --Pi zero (talk) 00:08, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Eh, couldn't hurt. I just did a few a tad bit early. Two days might be a bit much, but can't really complain about this short of a time span. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 00:27, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Well... it could hurt if it early-archived an article that was still on the main page. Over the past few weeks we've often been only one or two articles away from archiving off the main page, and we've crossed over the line twice (once for several consecutive days, as I recall). I'm all in favor of forcing an article off the main page by archiving it when it's actually seven days old, but until then I'd rather not artificially shortchange the main page list. Also keep in mind that when archiving an article that's still listed on the main page, it's important to add the archive tag and sight that edit before protecting it; otherwise we'd be listing an article on the main page that most users actually can't edit, which would be un-wiki of us. --Pi zero (talk) 15:00, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Ah, understood. Thanks for the explanation, and for being so kind and polite in your conduct when imparting it. Most appreciated. :) -- Cirt (talk) 19:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Note to self - comments about articles

[7] - Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 00:50, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

IRC

Can you come on IRC? I want to discuss a potential story but no one else is around, and you're the last person at Recent changes. Thanks, :) Matthewedwards (talk) 05:08, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Done. -- Cirt (talk) 05:42, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Interviews

Hello, Cirt. I had a query- what are the interviews, like 'Wikinews interviews Ubuntu developer Fabrice'? How are they taken and by whom? Thanks, and awaiting reply --Sainsf :) (talk) 14:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I am not Cirt (obviously) but if it helps, please take a look at WN:OR. Original reporting, such as interviews, is the reason we are here (imo). They are (usually) taken by a Wikinewsie in good standing, often by accredited reporters. Method is whatever method suits the interviewee: email, im, irc, phone, in person. --InfantGorilla (talk) 21:51, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, InfantGorilla (talk · contribs), much appreciated. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 22:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Texas Agriculture Commissioner article

You know, man....I'm really trying to hang in here.....I really am......I've submitted a'lot of stuff lately that's ended up in the toilet.....but again, I'm trying to hang tough. Re: the Texas Commissioner of Agriculture article....I really don't disagree with some of your observations....and admittedly, I might've rushed it a tiny bit into review status. However, re: NPOV, you stated that it seemed a little bit like Spam/advertising........um, the article was about The Texas Commissioner of Agriculture coming to a school......he did it, it happened....he was there.....I was there.....someone being there isn't spammy....they were there or they weren't there......a notable political person being at a place isn't spammy....it just is what it is.....the topic was clear......the article was about the visit.....what's spammy about a visit?Bddpaux (talk) 13:27, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I see it still only uses one source. -- Cirt (talk) 20:16, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Category templates (or whatever the issue is)

I do not understand the motivation behind your reversion of my edit to Category:Abortion. Could you please explain? --Pi zero (talk) 02:25, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, if you have a concern, you could help suggest changes be made to the category templates themselves, such as {{latestcat}}, instead of manually changing things, at individual categories. You see? -- Cirt (talk) 02:31, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
  • I'd tend to agree that latestcat is pretty shoddy as it stands. Was what you'd put in lifted direct from it? If so, the DPL needed sundry hackery anyway - the listed articles shouldn't include disputed or nopublish items (see main page dpl). A quick glance also suggests that, in this case, it is grammatically incorrect too. How about trying a new {{topical category}} template? That is, being mindful of the current main page look, that some will be sparse, others well-populated and merit a geo-breakdown. Of course, the actual 'raw list' should not be pushed completely out of sight.
This was what I was trying to do with the portal template design, but quite a bit of work on MakeLead &EzPeerReview is needed there. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:51, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
I have started a discussion, at Template talk:Latestcat. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 02:54, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
  • I did copy the DPL from {{latestcat}}. (Fixed, I think.)
I've been envisioning standardized category format as rather no-frills compared to portals. Roughly like {{Areacategory}} (e.g., Category:Alberta, Category:Bengaluru). --Pi zero (talk) 04:31, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
The changes to {{latestcat}} look great, thank you! :) -- Cirt (talk) 06:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

wikiquote user welcome

responded on my talk. Bawolff 18:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Cirt (talk) 20:31, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Unpublishing

I've unpublished Nevada Republican opposes Angle for US Senate over 'extreme' anti-abortion position due to the defamation of character unsupported by the sources for the article. There is no mention in any of the sources of Scientology. - Amgine | t 19:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Wrong. Cited in the Related news subsection. -- Cirt (talk) 19:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I have examined the prior article. She was criticised for supporting a prison program. In no way does that article, or any other source connected to this news article, assert past criticism for membership in Scientology nor her support of alleged Scientology forced abortions. When you add explicit sources which do so I would withdraw my current opposition to publication of such an otherwise baseless defamation. - Amgine | t 19:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Wrong. Info in article at present is Artículo bueno.svg Confirmed to multiple secondary sources [8]. -- Cirt (talk) 20:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Pakistan's former president Farooq Leghari dies aged 70

Is it ready for review now? We have image of Leghari but fair use, can we use it? --Saki (talk) 10:50, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Best to try to find a free-use version. Who is "we" ? -- Cirt (talk) 10:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
We Wikinewsie. --Saki (talk) 11:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
If it is already on Wikinews it might be ok (though I can't find it on English Wikinews.) Please post a link. --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:05, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Image link, [9]. --Saki (talk) 09:12, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Sources

Of course. Such a way? Talk:Wikileaks_releases_Iraq_War_logs#Source for Iran involvment. thanks--Pierpao (talk) 09:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I [added] the right template with all necessary data in the sources section. But someone deleted it with the news. I do not understand why Iraq tortures are not Pov and Iran renforcement are Pov. It seems not a such free and open newzine. I'll never write for the third times the same period. If you like to do you are welcome. Take care--Pierpao (talk) 10:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the sourcing of "WikiLeaks Releases Iraqi War Logs," please see the notes I'd added in the "Collaboration" section of the article. I hope you find them ok, and will reinstate the changes I'd made. Best Wishes.The san gabriel mountains (talk) 18:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello!

Hi there! I'm an improving news-writer and trying to become an efficient one. I also want to review articles and improve my knowledge. I frankly address that my previous reviewer request (3 months ago) had been rejected because I couldn't understand the Style Guide. But now I've improved. Please help me in becoming a reviewer! Thanks --Sainsf :) (talk) 13:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

fetch·comms 22:56, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 05:09, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

WN:RFCU - Assistance needed

Hi Cirt. As you get time to, would you please be kind enough to go to WN:RFCU and possibly take a look at the additionals to the KittiesonfireXX range you confirmed for us please? There are new accounts appearing, and I was wondering if I could get confirmation or denial as to whether they're tied to the original set you CU'd previously please? Many Thanks. BarkingFish (talk) 21:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Done. -- Cirt (talk) 22:50, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

re: Welcome

Hey! Thanks for the kind message. I've actually edited as an IP before on Wikipedia, so for that reason I'm familiar enough with wikis to be able to edit here! I've actually been considering working with your team here at Wikinews, although I do have a few questions. I've noticed that the articles here on Wikinews are primarily syntheses of other news sources; is that an article format that you generally prefer? Would you accept articles that draw from non-news sources, like academic journals or newsmagazines? How much leeway is there for a writer to argue in favor of a particular viewpoint, given that a writer can never be completely neutral?

I look forward to discussing with you further... I realize that my questions may be quite vague, so I might end up writing a few articles to try Wikinews out anyway. Since I don't have a talk page that I can easily check, you can respond here if you'd like. 128.135.100.102 (talk) 06:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest asking at Wikinews:Water cooler/Assistance. -- Cirt (talk) 18:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Block based on CU

There is some discussion on the blocks of this IP going on on WN:AAA.

I know about the issues with CU disclosure; is there any information you can give regarding this block? Since there are no contributions, or deleted contributions, for this IP - and no apparent rangeblock - can you shed light on this? --Brian McNeil / talk 14:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I will comment there. -- Cirt (talk) 18:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Early archivng?

Some reason to have not waited until midnight UTC? (Just curious.) --Pi zero (talk) 19:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

It was only a few hours. It couldn't have really hurt. -- Cirt (talk) 19:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
I was just wondering if there was a particular reason. It's certainly not earthshaking (though, due to our somewhat low output recently the articles that get archived are pulled off the main page thereby). --Pi zero (talk) 20:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
You think something should stay on the main page as "news", for over 6 days? -- Cirt (talk) 20:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Personally, I'm not in a hurry to archive it before the appointed moment when we're short on stories on the main page listing. But like I said, it's not earthshaking; I was only wondering if there was a particular reason, and I gather 'no'. That's fine, my curiosity is satisfied :-). --Pi zero (talk) 20:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
I am not really sure if it is even worth devoting this much time to coming over here and discussing this relatively insignificant issue. -- Cirt (talk) 20:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Dynamic IP

Just as a reminder, you really shouldn't block a dynamic IP for longer than 24 hours. That's the limitation in the BP, and any mildly competent vandal knows how to get a new IP from their ISP so it's not an effective tool in most cases. - Amgine | t 19:58, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the input. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 19:59, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

re disruption

Hello, I was not trying to be disruptive. I was following the [[Wikinews:Despite resolution - Step three. I apologize for any disruption I caused. Since I have no "off wiki" communications, I don't know much about how to go about things here, and the directions are very unclear. Again, I am sorry for the disruption. It was done out of misunderstanding "Step three". Is there a place to get advice here that is not considered disruptive? Is there any way to get help? Regards, Mattisse (talk) 01:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

You "notified" at least eleven (11) different users, in posts of quite similar texts, to each of their user talk pages. That is disruptive. -- Cirt (talk) 02:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

epic fail

fixing now, thanks Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 05:01, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

fixed Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 05:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Categories?

How can i make one thats easy to do? thank you. --Beginner2 (talk) 20:04, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps ask at Wikinews:Water cooler/Assistance. -- Cirt (talk) 16:28, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

thanks for reviews

Dear Cirt, Thank you so much for reviewing Gay couple elected prom king and queen in Maine's Sanford High School and YouTube allows users to share videos under Creative Commons license! I appreciate the edits you made to the first article before passing it, and I also appreciate the suggestions you made for the second article. Hopefully I have sufficiently revised the second article, so that it is now ready for publication. Best, Ragettho (talk) 06:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

You are welcome. And, Done! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 06:43, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

What does that mean?

You told me that the merger between my article and another article had to be addressed. What do you mean by this? I have already incorporated information from Tyrol5's article into mine. What issues need to be addressed? Can you please help as soon as you possibly can? --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 12:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I mean that the issues had to be fully addressed, discussed on the talk pages, and the merge tags removed, and then one article redirected to the other. That had not yet happened. -- Cirt (talk) 15:46, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Comment

I'm serious about the compliment as I have seen you on multiple sites, always constructive. Do you remember that I reviewed at least two of your articles for GA? You were a pleasure to work with! Best wishes, and thanks! Mattisse (talk) 01:39, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Not exactly as I recall, um, but thanks, I guess ... -- Cirt (talk) 01:44, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Should I have not said that? Mattisse (talk) 01:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Your words are appreciated, as are the complements. Your memory and your recollection of the situation is a bit ... off. -- Cirt (talk) 02:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Well I found one, not under the best of circumstances I guess Talk:Being Tom Cruise/GA1 - but I was always trying to edit well. That was my goal. I hope you have it in your heart to understand, since you are prolific also, and I always sought to improve wikipedia. Mattisse (talk) 02:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Alright, thank you for the good faith comments recently, Mattisse. I really appreciate that! :) -- Cirt (talk) 02:48, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Interview sketch

I've put together a few questions on User:Ragettho/Interview proposal for National Archives Wikipedian in Residence. Feel free to add any other questions you might have. Ragettho (talk) 02:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

ArbCom nomination?

Would you accept nomination for another year on ArbCom? The deadline for nominations is 2000UTC on the 17th. --Pi zero (talk) 17:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

To be sure of getting in before the deadline, I went ahead and nominated you. Hope that's okay. --Pi zero (talk) 14:54, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Question (re election page)

I'd like your opinion of a possible alternative. I understand your discomfort with a deceptive TOC; indeed, I recall that bothered me last year. I am also uncomfortable hiding part of the record of proceedings.

What would you think of having an archival section with a different name making it clear from the TOC that it's not an active candidacy — perhaps "(withdrawn) Cirt", or even "[WITHDRAWN] Cirt"? I'd have no problem simply omitting the comments/votes subsections since they never had any content (or we might choose another way to prevent them from appearing in the TOC). --Pi zero (talk) 17:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Libyan rebels story

can u help? --Dustbowlhero (talk) 21:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello

I saw your name at WikiNews: List of WikiNews Welcommittee volunteers and would like to ask you a question: Why exactly should I create an account here? 03:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC) (Never mnd.)

A thought on archiving

For perspective: My practice when archiving has been, for the past year or so, not to archive below 10 articles on the main page. If there are only ten articles on the main page, to my mind, the articles there are serving primarily as representatives of our work, and it makes no sense to me to hide our work; indeed, truthfully, it seems to me more detrimental to the project to leave too small a sample on the main page than it does to leave some older articles visible there. I've been diligent about archiving; when we get down to ten articles on the main page, I archive one article for each article that is published, until we pull out of the slow-down. --Pi zero (talk) 12:20, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Btw, I realized a bit later, I usually thank you on WN:CU when you've helped out there, and this past time, in the press of events, I forgot. Thank you! --Pi zero (talk) 12:22, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Okay, sounds good, I'll keep that in mind in the future. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 20:08, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

User:Sensesfail123

...whom you blocked yesterday as a sock, is requesting unblock on grounds of mistaken identity. Based on rather ordinary-looking contributions on other projects, I'm somewhat inclined to grant the request, but thought I should check whether you had any objections / supplementary comment on the case. --Pi zero (talk) 18:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


Category:Hare Krishna movement

Just a note, because I notice you created Category:ISKCON. I renamed it. In discussions in recent times, the community has generally preferred to avoid acronyms in category names (rather like headlines, I suppose, where the advice is to avoid acronyms unless length is prohibitive or they're better-known than the full name (like NASA)). I seriously considered using the expansion of ISKCON for the new category name, but decided to go with the common name in keeping with the precedent of Category:Mormonism.

If you really feel strongly that it should be Category:International Society for Krishna Consciousness, let me know; my preference isn't that strong, and if the rename is a mess that needs cleaning up, I did it so I won't shirk my responsibility to fix it. --Pi zero (talk) 15:45, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I was probably going by whatever was the convention at en.wikipedia at the time. No worries, -- Cirt (talk) 21:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

re: Woman gives birth on New Jersey PATH train

Thanks!!! hopefully I can find a better picture. Cocoaguytalkcontribs 00:04, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

WN:AAA

Since I believe you're active on a range of projects, and therefore see a real variety of users and reactions, I'd be most interested if you could comment on the ban proposal at AAA and let us know one way or the other what you think of it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 23:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Done. -- Cirt (talk) 04:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. :) Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:14, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 14:53, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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