User:DragonFire1024/archiveApril-June2007

image:Rotating earth (large).gif/image:earth.gif

I'm assuming that earth.gif is a derrivitave of the other image. If thats true than it should be under gfdl. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Done :) DragonFire1024 06:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

can you go on the irc? thanx Symode09 13:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Thanks. Made another edit to the digg story. Q: Can the en:wp account be used for wikinews user? If not, do some folks use a different user name than at en:wp? I'm wondering if wikinews folks are more prone to vandalism etc. (oh, I see I should post q at water cooler...) Ciao, HG 19:02, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

wow!

[1] you can read Hungarian?

'coz u removed stuff as unsourced, when two of the sources are in Hungarian. have you been able to determine that the 'unsourced' stuff is not sourced from the Hungarian sources? –Doldrums(talk) 21:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I am attempting to do so now, but cannot find a means of translation. DragonFire1024 22:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

there're a couple of things to try - ask the user who added the statement which source supports the statement and to highlight the particular line in the article. u can then look thro' babel or ask people on hu projects to translate that particular line for you. the important thing is to let the user who added this statement know that u're looking for confirmation. keep in mind that is quite possible that local sources can report details that international sources may not. to simply discard all such stuff even without making an attempt to see if it is valid will simply make wikinews a poorer source. –Doldrums(talk) 22:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Block and protect Example

Can you permanently block the username "Example", and protect the user and talk pages for the user? It's only to be used as an example username. —Zachary ^talk 01:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes :) DragonFire1024 01:14, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Attribution

Re: Image:Delta_before_after.png – I'm not asking for attribution for the copyrighted work within the illustration; I'm asking for attribution for the illustration itself. Anyone can just grab a screenshot and post it; I took the time to arrange and layout two screenshots and two logos in the same image. It took considerable time and effort, and I certainly want credit for that. --Omaryak 05:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Again, I am not claiming credit for the copyrighted work within the image. I am claiming credit for the arrangement and layout of the images contained within. Not to mention, the design of the screenshot. It is not a standard operating system window, it is something I measured precisely. --Omaryak 05:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Taking a screenshot is really no different than taking a photo of something in the real world. Cropping images in a specific way to aid in the news reporting process allows use of the images to fall under fair use and ensures against a violation of copyright law. Because I have chosen a specific portion of the Web site to display and not its entirety, and the image is being used in a news reporting context, I am perfectly within my rights. I chose what part of the Web site to display and how to display it. It was also my idea to create a before-and-after comparison. Please respect that at least that aspect of the image is entirely original and my work. --Omaryak 05:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Apparently you fail to grasp that though the images contained within the image are copyrighted, their selection and arrangement is my original work. You also fail to grasp that fair use law allows for selections to be taken for news reporting and educational purposes, a purpose for which the Wikinews local uploading system was expressly created.--Omaryak 05:51, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I did not make any changes or alterations. I provided an excerpt, which is perfectly permissible and in fact encouraged where it comes to fair use. --Omaryak 05:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

No hard feelings. I ended up voting for the image's deletion anyway because the images that ended up in the article convey the rebranding without sparking a debate over attribution. I do hope to contribute similar images in the future, though, so hopefully we can come to a mutual agreement about fair use and attribution. I'm talking to two other users who deleted my contributions for similar reasons to yours. --Omaryak 21:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Well done!

Just wanted to say DragonFire1024, your coverage of the plane crash, Kenya Airways jet with 115 on board crashes, was off-the-charts amazing. Well done! Jcart1534 19:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

second that. –Doldrums(talk) 19:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

third that from me (it is also WAY WAY better than the wikipedia article so another point to you for that)--MarkTalk 20:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks everyone...I was very much into geting all the Info I could in what time I had. DragonFire1024 04:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

user:Jun

I think Jun wants to talk to you. See his talk page. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:56, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Message from Lcarsdata

Lcarsdata posted something to you on IRC while you were away, so I'm just relaying it here to make sure you see it:

<Lcarsdata> DragonFire_aw: When you get back is it possible for you to upload the new map you did over the top of my map. That is required to comply with the GFDL.

<Lcarsdata> IIRC

<Lcarsdata> It would be better for you to do it since then you would be attributed in the file history.

—Zachary ^talk 09:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Succesful reconfirmation

I've archived your request for reconfirmation which passed successfully! Congratulations and keep up the good work.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Supernova article

Zachary says that you're the resident astronomy person so I should bug you about this article: SN 2006gy is brightest supernova ever discovered. If you could look it over and possibly add to it and decide if it's ready for publishing I appreciate it. Thanks. JoshuaZ 03:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Supernova image

Hi, I just want to give you a heads up. I uploaded that same image from the same place to Commons and they speedy deleted it. After requesting more information as to why they Tom wrote me this:

Regarding the deletion of this image, note that on the bottom of the NASA webpage that you pulled it from (here) there is a link to the original authors (here) at the Chandra X-Ray Observatory. The image is also credited to them (NASA/CXC), which means it is their work. Their image use policy (here) clearly states "The images on this web site may be used for non-commercial educational and public information purposes", which basically means it can't be used here since those are stringent usage restrictions. While the Commons itself is noncommercial and educational, the goal of this project is to create a repository of images that anyone (including commercial and non-educational) can use for any reason. See the Commons' policy regarding these types of images. Also, I meant to post a notice on your page immediately after deleting them, but I became distracted, so I'm sorry if I upset you. Thanks. --Tom (talk - email) 21:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Good luck, but don't be surprised to see it disappear. --SVTCobra 21:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Western Maryland

So where would this user WookiWookie begin to spar off into a category for Western Maryland? -Edbrown05 04:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. I never made a category, and if he would do it without the article, that is now published *sigh*, added to the category, on a DPL, then ok. DragonFire1024 04:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, now I see that article. A published news piece would have to move the process to where-ever that process might end up... otherwise, i don't even want to talk about it. -Edbrown05 04:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Trophy

		Wikinews Trophy
		I, Symode09, hereby award DragonFire1024 the Wikinews Trophy for his amazing coverage on the Kenya plane crash Keep up your work! May 9 2007 —Symode09 06:47, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Nias Yet to Receive Aid 10 Days After Quake

Hi Jason. Did you know that you unpublished an article that has been published since January 2005? Nias Yet to Receive Aid 10 Days After Quake. --SVTCobra 18:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Darn archiving tasks :) Notice anymore please tell me :) DragonFire1024 18:10, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Will do. By the way, I have been nominated for Admin. I would appreciate it if you voted even if it is Oppose for being an arrogant bastard. --SVTCobra 22:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Check China Plans Next Manned Space Mission it is missing a "}" after publish. --SVTCobra 11:40, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Done :) DragonFire1024 11:44, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Skymap3.PNG

I'm requesting deletion on the basis its an orphan, unused and unlinked (and we arn't commons). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks DragonFire for the welcome! -- Penubag  07:00, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Blair's resignation

What do you mean it hasn't happened yet? It's been in the news nearly every day recently. Read the sources. It's on the BBC News front page. Gary Kirk 10:06, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

He is announcing it today, it does not say anywhere that t is taking effect today. DragonFire1024 10:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

deleting personal attacks

thanks for deleting the attack page. it's also a good idea to remove the attack from the edit summary while deleting, otherwise it'sll remain visible in logs. –Doldrums(talk) 08:39, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

UC story

thinking run it, exactly how it is? youThink? -Edbrown05 09:24, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

A manifest of quotes are not news...well they are if its written in a format of a news article, and not a speech...or obtained from copy and paste of copyrighted material...DragonFire1024 09:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind the format. If it is copy/ paste that is something else... maybe not so bad in this circumstance. -Edbrown05 09:44, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

backlog

I mean who cares? Archive what? it already is, i suppose without even archiving it. all that is is protection, i think there is enough of that around here. fuk archive, we already know a news story it dead after two days, so... i don't understand archiving.... does it accomplish anything? (sorry, i'm picking on you)-Edbrown05 10:19, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

does archiving accomplish a thing other than page protection? and if that is all it does.... what a waste of time. -Edbrown05 10:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism DragonFire1024 10:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

• Archiving means less to watch for in the way of vandalism. Articles may be dead after two day to all but historians... and trolls. There's too much scope for things like vandalism and well-meaning but inappropriate edits when we don't implement the archiving policy. Besides, it stops Commons from deleting images without telling us about it. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 10:27, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Obsessive cats

I agree that there are a lot of categories, but it's to put them on the portals. If we would never put Asia, then Portal:Asia would be empty.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:11, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

revert

[2]. what gives? –Doldrums(talk) 14:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I actually meant to revert something else, but it didn't work.You readded the sourcfe, before I could realize i had did it wrong. DragonFire1024 14:34, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Video

Heya!

I see you have previously shown some interest in Wikinews Video Edition and, need your help. As you may already know, the projet is is need of assistance - we have finished all the graphics and need to start actually brainstorming ideas for the first news story. We will cover one news story and, will cover it with much depth - the story will go for 15-20 minutes. We are looking for something which is not of direct interest to the media (ie. tax increases or politics) but rather, a heartfelt or deep story. Could you please help to collaborate and brainstorm here.

thanx, USer:symode09

Smoke from massive warehouse fire in Buffalo...

Hi, that is a great piece of OR. Action reporting if you will. Most OR is of pre-planned events, so this was enjoyable and refreshing (the reporting, not the fire, obviously). My only critique is you first word Currently. Although, I am sure it was true, it might be better to use a phrase like As of this writing or perhaps state when exactly it was. Great reporting nonetheless. --SVTCobra 02:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationales

Please note that removing the template without providing a detailed fair use rationale will not prevent non-free images lacking rationales from being deleted. Statements of copyright are not fair use rationales. If you continue to remove tags without supplying detailed fair use rationales in their steads, your editing privileges will be revoked. Editors who facilitate copyright violations (which is what a non-free image without a fair use rationale is) are not helping the project. Uncle G 07:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

• This is not a detailed fair use rationale. See w:Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline for what a fair use rationale must contain. Uncle G 07:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Rule

Which rule says I have to take it down. I don't even think it's that offensive and certainly not to the community. The 13th 4postle 14:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Apologies

I have personally apologized to everyone I put "On Notice" or "Dead To Me" I'm just trying to relieve the tension on this site and give everyone a laugh. I would like to keep it up there though. I really like it on my user page. The 13th 4postle 14:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I suppose its ok then...but please do not add anymore users to any of those lists as they will mostl likely consider that offensive. I hope that you will still edit Wikinews. DragonFire1024 14:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok!

OK then! The 13th 4postle 14:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

English sources

I have added the link from Reuters already. Please check. Thanks. -- AngusSuen 14:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh! Why? I did not copy from the Reuters' link! Why still counted as "copyvio"? Please check it carefully! It is actually loosely translated from the Chinese version! -- AngusSuen 14:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey! The history is deleted by you already. How can I defense myself now? -- AngusSuen 14:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

i fail to see how [3] is nearly a copy and paster from [4]. –Doldrums(talk) 14:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Global warming

Hey Dude! I'm a new User: in the wikinews. I'm looking for the global warming articles. Probably you can show me a link. Thanks a lot!--Kádár Tamás 09:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

why delete?

Condemned in Perpetuatity for marrying a christian!. this is a real event[5]. –Doldrums(talk) 04:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Well it had no sources, was written like an editorial for starters...sorry. DragonFire1024 04:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

hmmm, no sweat. have restored, tagged it and left a note to the contributor instead. –Doldrums(talk) 04:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok...again sorry. DragonFire1024 05:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Mary Cheney story

Thanks for finding that image. I thought I had searched Commons thourougly.--SVTCobra 03:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

It actually was not on commons. I had to upload it there from the White House website. It was not easy finding a free image of here...I am almost apt to say it's the only one :) DragonFire1024 03:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality opinion

Hi DragonFire1024. Could you please have another look at China warns US on trade? You had expressed some concern on the Talk page re: neutrality. I think it is not too bad, so would like to see if you would take another look at it? Cheers, Jcart1534 17:56, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

minimum wage

Here I go again, but you wrote the story on the Senate passage of a minimum wage increase. Can you put 'Related' on the U.S. minimum wage increase passed by Congress story started. There is some kind of convoluted road this legislation went through that I don't have a fix on. But, I am interested in how long the process took from the Senate to what will ultimately be the president's pen to make it law. -Edbrown05 08:46, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for the tips I hope I do as much help as I can—Hedgehog 03:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)hedgehog

Fix in archived story

My apologies if this isn't the right place to request such things - I'm an inexperienced Wikinewser - but could you fix the giant break in "Super typhoon" triggers fatal mudslides in Philippines, which is archived, for me? Cheers, Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 09:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's great, thanks. Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 10:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Dude Please Help

I currently wrote an article and they have completely destroyed it and put it back in development. I have never seen something like this. They've taken off links and everything overnight. Look at my last revision and what it is now. I understand the pictures part and I was gonna fix that but they have completely destroyed my article I had everything sourced. Here's the article [6] I would fix it but I cna't till I come back home from work at 5. The 13th 4postle 11:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Map

Capital of Australia... Canberra, and there is a weather station for it. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Featured OR

Hi,

I'm promoting the article, before that could you implement some of the minor corrections suggested at Wikinews:Featured_article_candidates#Smoke_from_massive_warehouse_fire_in_Buffalo.2C_New_York_USA_can_be_seen_40_miles_away?

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 17:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Done :) DragonFire1024 18:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Good job

Excellent work on 10 charged with plot to overthrow Laos government. Wisekwai 07:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Greek Actor

Thanks that looks fine now. By the way do you know which Aristophanes comedy he was rehearsing that was to tour in the summer? CWiltshire 09:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Really Nice Job On Weather

I really like that. I hope I can edit it because I'm about to. Momodamonkey 22:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Blog discussion

Hi,

I'd like to discuss how we should proceed with the blog: Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#Content_of_Wikinewsreports_blog.

Also, I didn't understand what you meant with your comment on the Open Door Days idea, that "Google News would be empty"...

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Bob Barker retires as host of "The Price is Right"

Thanks for writing it. —FellowWikiNewsie 16:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Trophy image (re:note on IRC)

The image was marked as nosource for 6 days and wasn't edited, which is why it was deleted. The source was this page which returns a 404; even if it once existed the license of the image can't be verified if the page no longer exists, unfortunately. The uploader was User:Dbenbenn, who received a note on his talk page 6 days ago saying the image need a new source, but one wasn't added; thus it had to be deleted. If you can find a new source or a free image to replace it feel free :) — Editor at Large ^talk 23:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

The Wikinews Bulletin updated for June 11, 2007

The Wikinews Bulletin

June 11, 2007	The Wikinews Bulletin	Volume 1, Issue 1

From the editor: New Wikinews community newspaper established	Wikinews contributor Sean Heron at G8 summit, after issues with accreditation delays
Community mirror proposal for Google searches	Administrators and accreditations: May 28 — June 11
Cascading protection system created for archiving articles	Featured content: May 28 — June 11
Wikinews Weather Service BETA version established

Shuttle news

I put a breaking tag on Atlantis docks, astronauts ready for spacewalk thinking that the story will change in the news cycle for June 11, and that it could possibly be updated once the 'nauts have actually made their spacewalk. Wisekwai 12:39, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

No worries here either. ;) Now the spacewalk has been delayed a bit, and I'm going to go to bed. So maybe the update will wait until tomorrow anyhow. I guess it's not as "breaking" as I originally thought. Wisekwai 19:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Comment Box

Hi, Y do U keep rmv the comment box ? See article discussion page. 67.70.68.121 09:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

On the Singapore/Brunei currency story, thanks for fixing up the headline. I wasn't sure if the question mark was going too far, and I guess it was. The stands fine on its own without a wacky headline. Wisekwai 11:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

NASA extends Space Shuttle Atlantis' mission

What is the source for the Shannon quote as this does not appear in either of the two sources shown? CWiltshire 22:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Woman disclosed by newspaper in sex tape commits suicide

Hi, I wrote a reply to your comment about the redirect, there is a bit of a mess now, as there are two independent articles kicking around. Woman disclosed by newspaper in sex tape found dead (older version), and Woman disclosed by newspaper in sex tape commits suicide (new, although missing history). I am waiting to see if DPL picks the new one up properly. Any suggestions how to fix? --Zven 07:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

The redirect was deleted...so the old is the original article that should not be changed. The new one is the new one you would work on. :) DragonFire1024 07:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

When I created the new article the reverted redirect still existed as the article had not yet been deleted, as I distinctly recall seeing the redirect wikitext. The original article probably could have been redirected as it was still current in Portal:New Zealand which it is most relevant too. --Zven 08:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

There are still two copys floating around at Portal:New Zealand, the old version Woman disclosed by newspaper in sex tape found dead needs deletion. I am still of the viewpoint that the redirect of the article title was a better approach as it was an ammendment to the cause of death. --Zven 22:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

They are 2 different articles...thats how they are supposed to be. One is a new article the other is an old article. DragonFire1024 22:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

And the second one needs to be rewritten to conform to new news...not a copy and paste of the old article. DragonFire1024 23:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Can you point me to Wikinews policy about this issue please either in the Wikinews:Water cooler or other. --Zven 02:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)