User talk:Blood Red Sandman/Archive 3

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Talk page issue[edit]

You May Proceed Of If You Would Like to, I Will Do It, In case I Don't Know, I Will Come Back With Your Message.. Sorry For The Long Wait. --Lyoko2198 (talk) 16:21, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Copyright violation on NYC's MTA proposes service cuts for 2010[edit]

Hello, I understand that there are some issues on the article, but I don't believe that is any copyright violation. Also I think i fixed the POV issue. Thanks, -- Cocoaguy (talk) 21:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. I'll play with the article some more. Happy editing-- Cocoaguy (talk) 21:41, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I do think our paths have crossed in the past Cocoaguy (talk) 22:04, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Ok I think its ready, I added a link to a local television news station. Cocoaguy (talk) 22:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


Thank you for your support on my RfA, even if I did think it was an oppose at first glance! the wub "?!" 23:45, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Climate contrarians in Copenhagen[edit]

Please join the discussion, if you can do it attentively, if you have some free 30 minutes?

I'm just afraid that this novice user Wikiwide, the author of the article, being probably a scientist (you just look at the first version of this article), has a very little understanding of what Wikinews is. And probably has lots of other work to do, is not interested, etc. Even the topic of climate contrarians near UNCCC sounds scientific, doesn't it? I think that if you revive this article, it will be very good

  • for Wikinews,
  • for this user, and
  • for the environment
    • (as some of the "skeptics" or
    • just common diesel car drivers can find this article realistic)

Please be informed that only an experienced Wikinews user can manage with such significant and responsible task. Q/0/k 04:13, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Today's quiz[edit]

Hi Sandman, due to an unfortunate error in this week's quiz one of the answers was wrong. Just a heads-up, please take a look at Wikinews talk:World News Quiz and adjust your score if necessary. Sorry. Tempodivalse [talk] 03:16, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

No worries. It didn't have any impact anyway. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:40, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

UK Wikinews Shorts: December 23, 2009[edit]

Can you please change the date to December 22, 2009 in the title? Thanks, Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 15:32, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to have to ask you this, but can you please change "Wikinews Shorts:December 24, 2009" to "UK Wikinews Shorts: December 24, 2009"? It's just that I wasn't sure if all the articles that I would be writing about in this would be UK based. --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 20:38, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

I've just spotted a problem with the opinions page on this article and where it redirects. --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 20:48, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for the creation of Category:Aircraft hijackings. Much appreciated, Cirt (talk) 17:27, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


Blood stop 4chan! --AtwoodChino20 (talk) 13:05, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Eh... I think wtf is indeed the correct comment to make here. What have 4chan got to do with anything here? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 13:07, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Your support for my RFA[edit]

I would like to thank you for supporting my successful RFA and for your confidence in me. I look forward to serving further the English Wikinews community in this new capacity. I shall take the new tasks required of an administrator on board step by step and will make the utmost effort to fulfil the role to the best of my abilities. Kind regards Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 12:34, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

re. Water cooler[edit]

Regarding [1] = Sorry if I irritated you. I just though displaying the image defaced the water cooler page too much, and would be better provided as a link. I wasn't sure whether to sign it or not since it wasn't really a comment. Tempodivalse [talk] 22:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

It's no big issue. I know you weren't trying to irk me so I don't mind, but it did a little bit. I deliberatly picked what seemed at first glance to be at the more extreme end of Commons since thats the most controversial aspect. Maybe just not sign at all? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, no sig might be best. Also, if it's okay, I'll change the image caption since the issue is not to censor, but rather to provide warnings for instead. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 22:50, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
  • It would have made the point more quickly if the image had not been obfuscated. It is the perfect illustration for [[Untreated syphilis among <country> women up <newsworthy> percent]]. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:47, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
  • I truly despair at the "voice of tolerance and reason". --Brian McNeil / talk 23:14, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Some of it is to be despaired at ("Boobs! Ugh! I'm shocked!"), but to some extent it is an issue we probably needed to discuss. Not all of the community will have thought long and hard and seen a lot of the arguments already; I only have since censorship interests me to an extent. I remain confident the thread will help people realise the inherent problems with censorship. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 23:18, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
I thought the Wikipedia link I posted might clue people in a bit, perhaps it went unread. If a free press is to act as the "watchmen" then it is up to said free press to decide what is appropriate material to present to the public. And, as I assume you'd agree, that can involve challenging what is legal and illegal in certain parts of the world. Words, I would assert, should be legal anywhere as a basic human right – the sunshine-and-shit principle of free speech. Censorship through the law can be a troublesome area, there are those who will fight tooth and nail to include what they find offensive. I understand why the government got the IWF to add hate speech to the blacklist criteria – it helps recruit morons to their cause. Ironically, the images they might choose to use can be far more newsworthy in illustrating what they're about than simply pretending they don't exist. I do understand the sorta-prudish concerns; but, people need to do their own background research into this and reevaluate their own position. Not censored is not censored, I can't give them all the same education as got me taken off one of the English Wikipedia OTRS queues (I sent a Mohammed image removal complainant a link to Wikipedia is not censored with a footnote see Autofellatio. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
It's a while since the written word has made me burst out laughing, congratulations for achieving it there. Yes, I can agree there. I have long fancied being prosecuted for having a copy of Virgin Killer; while technically it breaches the law as written I am confident that rights law would provide an adequate defence, even if I did have to spend several years fighting and go to Strasbourg to do it. I was disappointed to see the Girls Aloud obscenity thing dropped, that was similarly looking like it would be an entertaining ass-whipping for the police and CPS. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 23:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Alas, the polite "go blow yourself" response to cries for censorship is likely lost on 99.9% of the victims. Those interested in that particular article are likely socially awkward male teens going through the latter stages of puberty. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:04, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
In need of an instruction manual and helpful illustration. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 01:48, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Latest Icesave story[edit]

If you're still about can you review the latest Icesave story Alexandr and I worked on? There's an issue with the details around the previous use of the veto. It isn't 100% well-sourced - even on Wikipedia. But, I've seen mention of it in google news archive summaries. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

It's a big article, but I'll see what I can do. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Many of the related news won't need read; the thing is they're readily-available background for readers. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Review of US closes embassy in Yemen[edit]

Ok, I understand the failed review. At the time I first wrote the article I only knew of the US embassy closing. But I never got around to changing the title because of the merger with the article US, UK embassies in Yemen close due to al-Qaeda threat. By the way, if you wouldn't mind helping me merge... Cocoaguytalkcontribs 19:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if you're done by now but if not I'll take a look. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
It would be a big, hard job. Both articles could use some copyediting as well. I just don't have the heart for it. It is quite an interesting event, though, so if you are lucky I may try and do some of the work. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm a noob[edit]

I am a editor on the en wikipedia and I am interested in helping out here. I have never been much for writing article, although that may change. I have usually been involved in gnomish activities and meta discussions. Can you point me to the best place for me to jump in?--Adamfinmo (talk) 22:05, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


Looks good so far. Nice idea. ;) Cirt (talk) 22:06, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Wasn't actually my idea, I just suddenly thought we had it. I want a murder one as well. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:07, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Liquid diamond found to be like water[edit]

BRS, are you going to add anything to Liquid diamond found to be like water before it gets marked stale by someone? I'm holding off as I know you were thinking of adding some OR. Regards --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 06:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

INDECT followup[edit]

Any chance of getting you online (IRC) this evening? As you might've seen from emails I've got a very interesting line on INDECT. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll try and make some talk time. No promises, but I'll do my best. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

en-WP ArbCom[edit]

Most amused that we also meet at en-WP ArbCom. I was recently appointed a trainee clerk there. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 12:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry abot that edit.[edit]

I just felt that the Multiple lines describing The "Turnout depite snow and rain" to be a bit redundant, is all. wait..this isnt a quote... (talk) 15:45, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Also, Unrealated question, but what are those red and green numbers that appear near someones name when you go to the Recent Changes screen? (talk) 16:07, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

(Sorry for butting in here, BRS, but i couldn't resist answering a question.) The numbers indicate how many characters of text were added to or removed from the page. The number is green if that's the amount that was added, red (and negative) if it was the amount that was removed. Tempodivalse [talk] 16:09, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
No problem Tempo, I was away anyway. Thanks. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:41, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews writing contest reminder[edit]

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Article Leaders of UK, Ireland meet for emergency justice talks[edit]

see Talk:Leaders_of_UK,_Ireland_meet_for_emergency_justice_talks
I have tried to make changes clearer, will you review again Mrchris (talk) 02:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Welcome[edit]

Yup, I'm the same Wizardman from enwiki, getting my feet wet in new waters. Thanks for the welcome :) Wizardman 20:03, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The Wikinews Writing Contest 2010 Newsletter[edit]

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Bot is working just fine[edit]

While you may think the bot has "malfunctioned", it hasn't. The archive bot checks sigs for date/time stamps. If there are no comments in the last two weeks (Which there haven't been), it will archive it. So if you don't want it to archive something, I suggest you add a comment. Additionally, please remember to undo the archive too. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 19:03, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Writing contest newsletter: week 2[edit]

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Brit English[edit]

Whoops, I didn't know about that one. Sorry. --Mikemoral♪♫ 20:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Begging a review[edit]

Any chance you can do a review on UK loses appeal to conceal Binyam Mohamed torture? Kept sources to a minimum, but did draw from the related news and Today programme transcript. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll do it, unless you've got someone on IRC to. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:50, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Wp attitudes[edit]

I see that you are a multiwiki user. I've found that Wikipedia to be a very hostile place in terms of trying to keep useful stuff from being deleted, driving me nuts! - Stillwaterising (talk) 00:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry you're having an emergency in your world. Thanks for the referral. - Stillwaterising (talk) 08:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm back from the emergency itself, but I'm leaving the notice up for the time being since I'll mostly be staying away from my computer. I'm only really active here and Wikipedia (admin on both, Arbcom here). Wikipedia is almost a dirty word here; the irony is that even though a typical 24 hours here would earn me a civility block in the Other Place, I find Wikinews to be a more relaxed, easier going project. Of course, with the community small here it helps that in any given argument you know who you're arguing with, and often have done for years. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:44, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

LQT deletion[edit]

I played around with LQT in the labs, so I believe you missed a few. --Mikemoral♪♫ 18:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with any of those comments, or am I missing something? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:25, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Whoops, I'm missing it. Sorry, Mikemoral♪♫ 18:29, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
It's ok. Something you can help me with - do I need to do anything to ensure the next reply is threaded properly? So far it seems to recognise that I've deleted something so the gap in the naming sequence isn't a problem. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:32, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't think so, but I didn't expect no gap. The labs are there for testing. --Mikemoral♪♫ 18:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Contest newsletter: weeks 3-4[edit]

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I'm willing to help MW out here. I'd still like to see him unblocked on WP (I've been talking to him via email for a few weeks and I'm confident it would be a good thing) but if I can be of assistance here, I'm more than happy to oblige. Best, HJMitchell You rang? 22:09, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Apologies, I like to keep things one place or I get confused sop I replied to your reply on my talk page ;-)! HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 22:48, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Your Support of My RFE[edit]

Thank you for your supporting vote. I very much appreciate it. PSD27 (talk) 19:42, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for the welcome, and thanks for passing my first article! I see that you moved the title - do you think it would be better at "Rwandan army officer sentenced to 25 years for genocide" or is it Ok as it is? I meant to put it as Rwandan not Rwanda - that was a typo, but maybe it's ok as it is. --Belovedfreak (talk) 22:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Dude, Chill[edit]

In regards to this. I know you got shit going on IRL, and we all have bad days... but stop antagonizing the newbies. Granted the newbies don't always help their case... but still. If someone asks you to tone down the language, try to at least play nice. Not everyone appreciates our usual level of bullshit around here. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 02:57, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews:Requests for arbitration[edit]

(Soy Rebelde v. Blood Red Sandman & Microchip08) I have requested and arbitration. Per the format, consider this satisfying the "Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request" requisite. --Soy Rebelde (talk) 06:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


Do not make threats against me. Do not put words in my mouth. Keep this to arbitration. --Soy Rebelde (talk) 18:18, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Response to your recent comments:

  • You used that word; never mind that you set out to antagonize someone new to WN, that was just petty. I also could have lived with the other colorful language for the same reason; petty. However, a combination of these made it difficult and I proceeded to address it in a manner parallel to the offense and which follows protocol.
  • Ultimately, the issue is: Are you the type of person that will allow this behavior to continue and do you understand what it means to be on the receiving end of it? The problem is, I think the answer to the latter part of that question is yes and consider it the very reason you did it in the first place.
  • You should know a handful of your WN peers have your back and I'm pretty sure I've made some "Wikinemies" from what was nothing more than an intention to contribute a proposal at the watercooler. People are calling me a terrorist (via a headline no less), amongst other things; not to mention WN is now plagued with that word; as is my discussion page. I have not entertained the hazing or exposed myself to reading offensive material that took others time to write. You are not helping the issue and only contributing to a hazmat area.
  • Wiki is a foundation open to everyone, that receives funding from donations and is meant to embrace and enhance the world. It is not a private club made up of exclusive members with organized underground network of rules.
  • I would appreciate if from here forth, every communication between us regarding this issue be through higher means; or not, just don't be surprised if you do not receive any response. --Soy Rebelde (talk) 19:12, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


Can you protect my page? --Mikemoral♪♫ 00:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Done Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 00:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. It was getting really annoying that I couldn't block the guy. --Mikemoral♪♫ 00:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
No problem. Brian is playing with the settings now. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 00:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Contest newsletter[edit]

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Wikinews Writing Contest Newsletter[edit]

"Rochdale gaff"[edit]

Hey, any chance you could restore or userfy that for me- I'm in the process of getting the WP admin who restored it to provide me with the history so I can give attribution to the original authors. Best, HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 17:40, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll get back to you. Thanks for your help. Always a pleasure to bump into you :). HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 17:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Looks like there's not much to be done and I've had it re-deleted back on WP. Thanks for your help, though. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 17:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)


I contacted James Pain a while back but when he never replied I just decided to re-launch AW myself. I've rebuilt a lot of the infrastructure to make doing these easier and to spread out the responsibilities so that no one person feels like they need to do everything. Hopefully, in time, more people will want to take part. It would be great if you want to write briefs whenever you can. Don't worry if you can't do them all the time, just jump in whenever you want to and do as many or as few as you are comfortable doing. I have a Wikinews:Audio Wikinews/Workspace page set up for scheduling and on the discussion tab is where all the discussion takes place when making the show. Really, all that is needed is to sign up on the schedule and then as stories are posted on the discussion tab, just add "working" and your time stamp under the story. Once you have the brief written, just post the text under that. Thank you for your interest and I really look forward to having you on board! Turtlestack (talk) 20:22, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

UK elections: Hung parliament, Cameron to negotiate with Liberal Democrats[edit]

I normally dislike pestering people to review articles like this, but ... any chance you could review - or get someone else to review - the above article, when you get a chance? I'd like to get this news out as quickly as possible while it's still fresh, and nobody on IRC is the least bit interested in publishing. Most of it is quotes, so it's actually not as hard to fact-check as it may firs appear. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 16:34, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia founder Jimbo Wales moves to purge pornography from Commons[edit]

Hi again. This article really needs to happen, in my opinion, because it is already available to the public and if it doesn't publish it will add to Wikimedia's shame and darken the reputation of Wikinews. - Stillwaterising (talk) 07:51, 8 May 2010 (UTC)



Bronze Medal

Blood Red Sandman has received 3rd place in the May 2010 Wikinews writing contest, having contributed 3 articles and earned 107 points.

Disagree with comment deletion[edit]

Hi Blood Red Sandman. I'd like to talk to you about this comments page that you deleted. It appears that the comment was mainly a criticism of Wikinews, which I think should be deleted only if it's extremely offensive or disruptive. To remove mild criticisms of our own website would seem to go against free speech (albeit limited) and the very purpose of the comments page, IMO. Without criticism we can never improve as a news source, and I think that comments such as the one you deleted should be kept. Thoughts? Benny the mascot (talk) 10:55, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I disagree. No actual criticism was made. The aim of the game was to trigger an argument. Had they said "very bad website the layout is poor" that would be fine. They are merely causing trouble. They want a reaction, preferably upset people leaping to the defence - but they don't really care what reaction, so long as they get one. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 10:58, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Canada keeping eye on Deepwater Horizon spill[edit]

We have updated the article with newer sources, and I would like to point out that its mildly an OR article, considering no one has ever reported this before, so I feel that it is newsworthy. I was hoping you could re-review it?  Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea - (T)(C) 00:30, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Coltra. I was away for the night (I'm a Scot) when you contacted me. It looks like someone else has done it now. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 11:25, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Supreme Court[edit]

You're going to make me write a story about the UK Supreme Court now, aren't you?! Bencherlite (talk) 21:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


Is not a Human Right.

I'm rather surprised you put that on the article. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

My mistake![edit]

Thanks to pointing out my mistake, now i should have done it right. Best regards!

Failed article about Obama and appointment[edit]

Just come here to rant really. I have had to correct basic stuff on just about every article up for review at the moment, from broken Wikilinks to incorrectly formatted and ordered dates via copyediting, adding infoboxes, adding categories to uncategorised articles up for priority review and a whole host of WN:SG no-nos. I shall point them this away next time someone complains that articles are not reviewed fast enough (especially when people insist on putting in 15 sources). End of rant. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 12:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Your rant was very welcome :). And people wonder why it takes so long for their articles to get reviewed. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiousity[edit]

Who conducted the Saville Inquiry? Was it really seated under Trimble? - Amgine | t 17:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

My apologies for poor phrasing. Under which government's auspices was the inquiry seated? That is, did the UK pay for this, or did NI? In the former case, then the UK released the report, which is what it appears to be in other sources. I'm only mildly curious as I assume there is little fact to be discernible in the entire fiasco, just spin. - Amgine | t 18:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
<chuckle> Or we could be forthright and state the United Kingdom allowed the report to be released... but that might be a bit too blunt. I'm actually surprised Cameron allowed it so soon, but will avoid drawing any conclusions from it. - Amgine | t 18:20, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews interviews Chiaki Hayashi, Asian Projects Coordinator at Creative Commons[edit]

Hi BRS, As per our IRC discussion yeterday, are you going to improve subject article.

In Japan, some major universities Kyoto University, Keio University, Kagawa Education Institute of Nutrition using Creative Commons ...-- (talk) 19:21, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Question 8: In Japan, some major universities, such as Kyoto University, Keio University, Kagawa Education Institute of Nutrition, using Creative Commons licenses for their content so we also have that kind of open projects. In creative industry, Loftwork Inc. is also using Creative Commons and we also have photo sharing website Photozo, its similar to Flickr and also have Japanese Wikinews, [[w:Japanese Wikipedia|] and

"President" Obama[edit]

I was under the impression that you were supposed to address foreign leaders as president/prime minister/title ______, as a sign of respect. You'll notice serious print journalists, at least on the first mention, will write in the title. -- Poe Joe (talk) 16:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me for butting in. This convention applies in some countries. In others it is Mister/Missus/Doctor, and some places like to use the first name at first mention. --InfantGorilla (talk) 18:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Butting in is perfectly discourteous, rude, and inappropriate. Which is why I do it myself from time to time :). More seriously, I was mistaken in which part of my edits Joe was commenting on. I'm happy enough to let this stand; some may argue pleonasm, but there is some functional meaning in reminding people of rank and title. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:22, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Mention their title the first time and then pick either their last name or the title to address them as for the rest of the article.

P.s this sub-heading made me think of the birther movement, "president might be born in Hawii, might be born in Africa" Obama =P

H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk 09:35, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Lol. The Birthers are a bunch of morons. I fear the States are gonna get Palin in government. That will be a sad day for humanity: the day we lost the US.
I want an independant candidate to get in over there. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


whats the policy on publishing interviews? H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk 11:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

If you interviewed someone, see WN:OR. Hope that helps while BRS is offline. --InfantGorilla (talk) 17:32, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Basically what IG said. We are very strict on checking out the veracity of interviews and the like, though, until you build up a reputation. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:10, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


/me turns on sickening voice synth... "You've Got Mail!" -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talkmain talk 20:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Received Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 20:41, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

BNZ v Amgine correction[edit]

Hi, Blood Red Sandman. I've posted a comment regarding your removal here. Cheers! Benny the mascot (talk) 16:02, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Case filed. :) Benny the mascot (talk) 16:52, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Noted, thank you. *Grumbles about never agreeing to actually do anything as an arbitrator* ;) Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Lol. If he really wants to kill it, I won't miss it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Policy changes[edit]

Generally policy changes are discussed at the water cooler, or at least discussed *somewhere* before being implemented. - Amgine | t 16:42, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

<giggles> - Amgine | t 16:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
THIS IS SPARTA!!!! -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talkmain talk 16:51, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

David Reutimann wins 2010 NASCAR race in Joliet, Illinois[edit]

I fixed that one quote. I didn't see any more, so how is it now? It is also the first one of mine to have been failed. --Nascar1996 22:48, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I am going to remove it. --Nascar1996 23:18, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: WN:ARCHIVE[edit]

Thanks for the heads-up, I'll be sure to follow this. Tyrol5 (talk) 17:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


Congrats on 8,888 edits! MC10 (TCL) 01:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Cool number... Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 10:21, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


Hello, I would like to see your up to date vote on my reviewer nomination. If you havn't notice (I know you have) I have created more articles and I have copedited an article or two. --Nascar1996 04:01, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm on it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 10:21, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Hello, could you help me by telling me where the scripts are for vector and monobook? --Nascar1996 15:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Certificate of participation[edit]


Certificate of Participation

This certifies that Blood Red Sandman participated in the May 2010 writing contest, writing 3 articles for 107 points in the course of the competition. Good work.

Furthermore you came in third. Good work! Bawolff 08:49, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

CU request[edit]

I have dealt with your CU request --Skenmy talk 17:57, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Skenmy. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

RE: Actress Patricia Neal dies aged 84‎[edit]

You are right, i thought i was logged in but after doing the edits i found out that i wasn't logged in. by the way, what does "hide your IP" mean? --Srinivas 13:34, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

And it would be nice if you review this too, otherwise it may go stale. Flash floods kill over a hundred in India, 500 missing --Srinivas 13:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay, if you suggest so, do hide my IP and, of course, thanks. --Srinivas 13:38, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

New Messages[edit]

Hello, you have new messages here. --Nascar1996 14:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Downed Airplane[edit]

If you could, would you please re-review Former US Senator Ted Stevens and former NASA chief Sean O'Keefe aboard downed airplane? It seems ready to be okay'd, and definitely overcame all the issues you pointed out. Aido2002 (talk) 16:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


I didnt mean any harm i was just voicing my opinion thats all. --Sorcagei (talk) 21:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I would like my IP hidden[edit]

Hello. Yes, if you could, I'd like my IP hidden. Sometimes I forget to log in, so I edit with my IP by accident. Thanks, --Shankarnikhil88 (talk) 21:37, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


If memory serves he is one of the foundation employees doing work on flaggedRevs (Specifically I think he was involved with making it palatable to the picky en wikipedians). He was probably given temp reviewer so he could see how we use the extension over here. Just in case you were curious. Bawolff 20:58, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

William Pietri[edit]

(show/hide) 20:21, 13 August 2010 Blood Red Sandman (Talk | contribs) changed group membership for User:William Pietri from Reviewers to (none) ‎ (Huh? WTF? Why does this random guy have Reviewer?)

Just to respond to that: I'm not sure, but my speculation would be that it's due to the contract he had with the Foundation. He was the project manager for the flagged revs deployment on English Wikipedia. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 01:00, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

err.... I just realized this was pointed out above. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 01:01, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Lol. Never mind :P Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 01:13, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
You really do spy on us don't you Philippe? :P. Bawolff 01:23, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I like this project. It gets a little more of my attention than some others because I love the concept of citizen journalism. But "spy"? Such an ugly word... no, no spying here :) Philippe (WMF) (talk) 15:10, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
lol, don't worry, you're always welcome here. Bawolff 16:39, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Haha. And I was all set for Wikimedia Foundation staff member admits spying on volunteer contributors. :p Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:09, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Probably unnecessary to create that story... wouldn't it be easier to just use [[Category:Wikimedia Staffers who are nosy]]? Philippe (WMF) (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that works. I'll go get Diego to populate it with his bot. :p Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Flagged revs RFP[edit]

I don't know if this is intended, but you don't seem to have signed this edit. Kayau (talk · contribs) 13:56, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Why would I? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
In Wikipedia the closing admin (or non-admin, in NACs' case) signs the decision. And Mikemoral signed the one down there too. Kayau (talk · contribs) 05:38, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I saw no point in signing because I made no real comment, just a brief note recording the outcome. Tempo, I think, really sealed it as a trend for people to sign even these but I've never seen the point. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 11:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


<rc> Special:Log/delete revision * Blood Red Sandman * changed revision visibility of Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions: hid content, username for 1 revision: Hide exposed IP address: Diego's just jealous he can't do this

Haha. Diego Grez return fire 17:28, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:) Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:01, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Commissioned piece - check email[edit]

Just got first commissioned piece. Check yer mail. I'll be off the train and in the house in a half hour.

700 words on Net Neutrality? Piece of cake. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:47, 18 August 2010 (UTC)