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-- Wikinews Welcome (talk) 01:23, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikinews, WhaatTF.

Thank you for checking about the possibly vandalism. I appreciate your attention. :-)

Please let me know if you're interested in any of these:

1) editing others' articles to gain news writing practice

2) writing your own article

3) using Wikinews for primary, secondary or tertiary education, or by a parent

Also if you have any other questions, you are most welcome to ask here; to do so, click 'edit' at the top of the section, or of the page.

--Gryllida (talk) 04:14, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I think 2 and 1 applies for me. --Hoo lee sheet (talk) 02:06, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. For number 1, please see User:Gryllida/welcome a bit, this tool can notify you of new drafts creation by email so that you can instantly (or nearly instantly) offer your help. For number 2, I am trying my best to share with you how your articles can be improved; I most greatly appreciate your persistence and perseverance and patience with the process. I am also wondering -- since I can't read the language -- how are Arabic Wikinews (http://ar.wikinews.org) working for you? --Gryllida (talk) 09:56, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

A thought[edit]

Noting the article you're working on (cool!) a general observation: When writing an article, in general, it's a good idea to start by assembling your list of citations of the sources you're going to draw on. Keeping in mind that documenting the sources actually used is the purpose of the Sources section of an article. --Pi zero (talk) 15:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, about your last point I actually thought so. sources should be of relation to the article and taken from the root of information not some other news site, but I guess I still have room to improve. also can you profive me some model articles, I dunno why i should use footnotes on articles. :/ --WhaatTF (talk) 16:23, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
another thing, what's difference between sources and references --WhaatTF (talk) 16:27, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
Here on Wikinews, we don't use footnotes to document where information comes from. We do often use explicit attribution — the purpose of attribution being to document the information bottlenecks that our readers ought be thinking about when assessing the quality of information (so that most often we attribute to where the news outlets got their information from, rather than directly to the news outlets themselves). Sources are the web pages that the reporter actually drew the information from. We don't have a section called References, in modern times (though there may be some ancient uses of that section name, in our earliest archives from before we'd sorted out our modern standards). There are some additional sections we occasionally provide, in addition to the required Sources section. The part of the Wikinews:Style guide that explains about all those article sections is Wikinews:Style guide#Citing your references. (Our style guide, btw, has been deliberately kept short enough that it can be read straight through; which makes it quite a lot shorter that other comparable documents, such as the AP Style Guide.) --Pi zero (talk) 17:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

TikTok is under investigation for children's data privacy[edit]

Hi. I've written up review comments on this. There were a couple of significant problems that I encountered early. First submissions to Wikinews are, of course, especially difficult, as the writer has to get up to speed on all the basics. There are a wide range of common outcomes from first articles, but we try to give lots of support and advice with them, so that whatever happens to the article itself, the experience can provide massive learning for the writer to carry to later articles. See also the detailed history of edits during review; I try to break down those edits into separate steps, and write enough edit in the edit summaries to explain just what I'm doing. If something isn't clear, please do ask. --Pi zero (talk) 19:45, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Two new replies[edit]

Hi WhaatTF,

You have two new messages HERE.

--Gryllida (talk) 06:04, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Re 6.4 magnitude earthquake hits southern California[edit]

I think there is one missing detail, how was the earthquake measured or detected. How did a human being first learn of the earthquake, and what facility was used to quantify it for the first time? Also did it end (and if so, how was this determined)?

Pardon if these questions are obvious to a person who monitors earthquakes. I hope adding this information can be useful to an international audience. --Gryllida (talk) 09:43, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

It's worth mentioning what seismic monitoring organization the basic information about an earthquake, such as magnitude, came from. I recall we once covered an earthquake... somewhere in the Mediterranean, I think... where the USGS and the European earthquake authority (tbh, the name of that org is slipping my mind atm) disagreed on the magnitude, so we reported that fact in our lede. --Pi zero (talk) 12:20, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
personally, I dunno how to address how the earthquake was measured, as for detection we have only witnesses. I added info about the quake recess attributed to Reuters and an official word from USGS seismologist.
The sources so far mentioned USGS only, so I take it as thruth. I'll keep an eye on this if smt arises. --Hoo lee sheet (talk) 13:27, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Re: welcome a bit[edit]

Hi WhaatTF

Thanks for signing up for the 'welcome a bit' notifications! Could you please specify whether you'd prefer to receive the notifications

a) by email or

b) as new comments on-wiki directly at this talk page (example)

Please let me know your preference.

Thanks, --Gryllida (talk) 04:51, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

@Gryllida: should it be one of them, I think I want it in both. But if I have to choose just one, I would go for talk page. --Don't call 911 (talk) 12:35, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
I've set up the list page (email), and the list page (on-wiki), where your topics of interest are listed. Because you haven't selected any, it is the 'Developing' and 'Review' category names, where any new drafts would appear. The script will see it and send you an email page message shortly.
Your first message will be a list of what's currently under development in the topics of your interest. This might be a long list; this is normal. The future messages will only contain newly created submissions.
As you're using the on-wiki subscription, please see this release announcement, which contains a user script that can help you clean up the notifications from your talk page.
When a new draft is created I personally prefer to leave a new message at the talk page of the author, where they discover it more quickly -- perhaps more quickly than at the talk page of the article. I personally prefer to not edit the article directly for the first 12 hours, so that they have an opportunity to do as much work as they can themselves; after that I aim to do everything I can to make the article ready for publication, and submit it for review, leaving them a note of what I did.
Please let me know if there are any issues with this message delivery. It is designed to encourage the recipient's involvement in helping newcomers, but simply testing the message delivery and reporting bugs would be greatly appreciated!!! Gryllida (talk) 00:03, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Deleted chart[edit]

Hi. I have deleted the chart which was used in German authorities confirm first case of novel coronavirus in Germany. I wanted to know:

  1. What was the source of this image?
  2. Why was the file not put on Wikimedia Commons? (In other words, why was it not under a free license?)

The file was replaced by a free media. I am curious why it was under an NC license, and could not have been a free version, because we prefer using free media.
•–• 15:44, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

@Acagastya: Simply because it was time-specific. When new report emerges till all of this dies out (hopefully) in like next few months. The graph will no longer be talking about the 27 January — date of the article. So it made sense to make it WN property. --Don't call 911 (talk) 15:52, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Also source on the article, WHO situation PDF report. (I can't verify atm; I get SSL error. --Don't call 911 (talk) 15:54, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Who was the author of the file? (I am still expecting an answer). I understand it would be better to keep charts and maps on enwn which we don't want to be modified. One local copy can be uploaded for that. But please use a free license.
•–• 15:56, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
I get it now! Free use media goes to Commons not WN. If I'm doing OR — collecting my own data, WN is the place. Thanks for the quick response. Cheers! --Don't call 911 (talk) 16:04, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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