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- Speedy closed. [24Cr][talk] 20:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]@Muluka Ahmed: I think this nomination may have been made in error. The position of bureaucrat is a fairly powerful one, and not one that will be granted to members of the Wikinews community without significant trust and experience. If you're interested in contributing to Wikinews, please do check out Wikinews:Writing an article and Wikinews:Style guide! --LivelyRatification (talk) 23:43, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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Inactive for at least two years since 16 July 2021 (last edit). No recorded log since March 2021. Twice notified about inactivity; no response yet. Per WN:PEP, should be de-sysopped. --George Ho (talk) 19:00, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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Comment: For what it's worth, they've continued to edit at enwiki as recently as this morning. Heavy Water (talk) 19:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- Unsure how this counts. But thanks for the reminder, so I sent a message there. George Ho (talk) 21:21, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Comment: Yes, I've been away from Wikinews for a long while, I'm just busy in real life. Wikinews isn't like Wikipedia, since most articles are written mostly by one person with minor edits made by others. At least, that's it's always been to me. Wikipedia currently fits my workflow better in my busy life. I should note I was contacted by someone from the Foundation recently about the Wikinews Facebook account and trying to regain access to it because currently it is posting semi-NSFW videos using the Stories feature. Granted, I never had access and I think the person who had access was Brian McNeil, who as we know is sadly no longer with us. I will abide by whatever this RfP proposes, however, I don't think I should be de-sysopped for what it's worth. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 16:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Comment I will take action on this before May 15th. Please leave up for now.--Bddpaux (talk) 19:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's been two days after the said date. What action shall you take then? George Ho (talk) 12:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am absolutely swamped IRL, but have not forgotten about this. I intend to take action this week.--Bddpaux (talk) 14:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK, so if my count is accurate, it looks like 4 for de-sysop and 3 to keep. Taking action now. I appreciate this person's past contributions and they are 100% welcome to re-engage with this project in the future, but they have been notable absent here for quite a long time.-Bddpaux (talk) 15:38, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have contacted a Steward at Meta to have this person de-sysop'd/admin'd -- let's let the wheels turn.--Bddpaux (talk) 15:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- I see nothing at m:SRP. Where did you make the contact? MathXplore (talk) 02:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Paul made a request at a user talk page in Meta. I just now requested the desysopping formally. George Ho (talk) 03:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I see nothing at m:SRP. Where did you make the contact? MathXplore (talk) 02:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- But when you don't count the people who, from what I can see, clearly don't have the experience to have suffrage on a request like this on en.wn, there's a 2–2 tie (although, obviously, determination of consensus requires considering more than just raw numbers). Heavy Water (talk) 06:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have contacted a Steward at Meta to have this person de-sysop'd/admin'd -- let's let the wheels turn.--Bddpaux (talk) 15:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK, so if my count is accurate, it looks like 4 for de-sysop and 3 to keep. Taking action now. I appreciate this person's past contributions and they are 100% welcome to re-engage with this project in the future, but they have been notable absent here for quite a long time.-Bddpaux (talk) 15:38, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am absolutely swamped IRL, but have not forgotten about this. I intend to take action this week.--Bddpaux (talk) 14:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's been two days after the said date. What action shall you take then? George Ho (talk) 12:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Desysop Thanks for what you've done, but it seems like you've moved on. No prejudice against reapplying if/when life makes you available for service here. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:55, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
Keep: PeP is both something the community can choose to apply, with discretion and common sense, and a measure to prevent compromised admin accounts or admins unaware of now-significantly changed policy, not a punitive one for simple inactivity. It shouldn't be taken as "better revoke any permissions as soon as the letter of these requirements is met." TUFKAAP is active elsewhere, so the security argument is moot; and I'm aware of no significant changes in customs regarding the use of admin tools in the past two years. Additionally, I think what SVTCobra said at Special:Diff/4730161 about having a shortage of admins makes sense. I'd add, for context about what was meant by "[ceasing] to be familiar with current practice": When drafting PeP and pushing for it to become a policy in 2012, Pi zero and Brianmc specifically expressed a desire to utilize it to revoke the permissions of those who either became reviewers very early on (i.e., about mid-2008 through 2009), when the standards for publishing were much lower, or left for the fork and were aware of Wikinews standards, but openly stated they had a complete lack of care about such, and even which site they were on. Heavy Water (talk) 19:32, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- This is your general view about PeP, right? I don't see how this view helps us trust this admin to use the tools any longer. To clarify, why must your reluctance to enforce PeP and (supposed) shortage of admins be one of reasons to support this person as an admin? George Ho (talk) 17:29, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- This is my view on enforcing PeP on TUFKAAP, and it's in line with my general view on enforcing PeP when the problems, listed above, that motivated the creation of PeP aren't present, especially at a time like this. As for the rest of your comment: WTF? I don't comprehend at all. Much of my vote was dedicated to explaining why those reasons make me inclined to oppose desysopping. I think one of the things you're saying is "you are reluctant to enforce PeP, but that should not matter, as it is policy." If it was like the review policy, you'd be right, but I go back to the first sentence of my vote, where I said PeP is "something the community can choose to apply, with discretion and common sense." Heavy Water (talk) 17:46, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- I now recall you said practically the same thing to SVTCobra when he objected to your suggestion Gopher65 be desysopped, George. Heavy Water (talk) 19:54, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- As you said, you have your reasons to oppose desysopping this person. Are they the same reasons to support this person as an admin? If so, I'd be flabbergasted, but whatever if the direction of the community heading toward your way. I have plenty of reason to oppose this person as an admin any longer, but if my reasons aren't enough for you, then... *sigh* George Ho (talk) 20:42, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Opposing desysopping is equivalent to supporting the admin remaining an admin, so yeah, they're the same reasons. Heavy Water (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, what are your views about this admin besides PeP? George Ho (talk) 21:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- I think they served well. I mean, I've never interacted with them, so I wouldn't really know, but. Heavy Water (talk) 21:29, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- I've not interacted much with this person either, and I honestly can't say much about this person's hard work. However, the past is the past. No reason to hold on the past too long in the present, is there? George Ho (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- I think they served well. I mean, I've never interacted with them, so I wouldn't really know, but. Heavy Water (talk) 21:29, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, what are your views about this admin besides PeP? George Ho (talk) 21:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Opposing desysopping is equivalent to supporting the admin remaining an admin, so yeah, they're the same reasons. Heavy Water (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- As you said, you have your reasons to oppose desysopping this person. Are they the same reasons to support this person as an admin? If so, I'd be flabbergasted, but whatever if the direction of the community heading toward your way. I have plenty of reason to oppose this person as an admin any longer, but if my reasons aren't enough for you, then... *sigh* George Ho (talk) 20:42, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- I now recall you said practically the same thing to SVTCobra when he objected to your suggestion Gopher65 be desysopped, George. Heavy Water (talk) 19:54, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- This is my view on enforcing PeP on TUFKAAP, and it's in line with my general view on enforcing PeP when the problems, listed above, that motivated the creation of PeP aren't present, especially at a time like this. As for the rest of your comment: WTF? I don't comprehend at all. Much of my vote was dedicated to explaining why those reasons make me inclined to oppose desysopping. I think one of the things you're saying is "you are reluctant to enforce PeP, but that should not matter, as it is policy." If it was like the review policy, you'd be right, but I go back to the first sentence of my vote, where I said PeP is "something the community can choose to apply, with discretion and common sense." Heavy Water (talk) 17:46, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- This is your general view about PeP, right? I don't see how this view helps us trust this admin to use the tools any longer. To clarify, why must your reluctance to enforce PeP and (supposed) shortage of admins be one of reasons to support this person as an admin? George Ho (talk) 17:29, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Remove Seeing that the admin in question has been inactive for years, is active on the English Wikipedia, has been pinged there, and still doesn't care enough to engage here. Pecopteris (talk) 06:40, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- "Doesn't care"? Why do you infer bad faith? TUFKAAP may well be too preoccupied in real life to respond here. But I find it highly unlikely someone with eighteen years' work on this project "doesn't care" about a request to desysop them. (To clarify, I'm not asking you to AGF — we have a guideline of never assuming good faith or bad, but drawing reasoned conclusions.) Heavy Water (talk) 17:20, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
Lemonaka (talk) 05:05, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Keep, due to lack of sysop on this project.- Is that the sufficient reason to preserve this inactive admin's tools? George Ho (talk) 12:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Generally, such reasons can be sufficient once the community agrees to that. On the other hand, I do not recognize any Wikimedia projects with such agreements. MathXplore (talk) 02:08, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Remove, but waiting for stewards regular check. Lemonaka (talk) 00:20, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) According to m:Admin_activity_review#Please_note and Wikinews:Permission_expiry_policy#Introduction, local policy (Wikinews:Permission_expiry_policy) will be prioritized. Therefore, there will be no stewards regular check until our admins go to m:Steward_requests/Permissions#Removal_of_access (Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions/Policy#Requests_for_removal_of_permissions). Please let me know if I'm wrong. MathXplore (talk) 02:06, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Is that the sufficient reason to preserve this inactive admin's tools? George Ho (talk) 12:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Keep I am satisfied by the response of the user above. --Bedivere (talk) 02:36, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) According to Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions/Policy#Requests_for_removal_of_permissions, no anonymous IP or new accounts will be allowed to vote. MathXplore (talk) 01:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. I want to note it was me who voted actually. Have removed the IP. It's true I don't have any other edits right now but that might change, so I don't mind if you don't take this vote into the count. --Bedivere (talk) 02:36, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the vote corrections. According to Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions/Policy#Requests_for_removal_of_permissions, our bureaucrats will count the votes. MathXplore (talk) 02:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. I want to note it was me who voted actually. Have removed the IP. It's true I don't have any other edits right now but that might change, so I don't mind if you don't take this vote into the count. --Bedivere (talk) 02:36, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) According to Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions/Policy#Requests_for_removal_of_permissions, no anonymous IP or new accounts will be allowed to vote. MathXplore (talk) 01:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Keep: I don't see inactivity alone as a reason to desysop when we already have a dearth of active admins. Leaving advanced privileges intact leaves the possibility they could come back and immediately lend a hand with maintenance tasks. Having said that, it would be great if @TUFKAAP could use their famous block hammer at WN:AAA. They may not want to write articles and that's fine. There are plenty of pages to be deleted(a specific need here), vandals to be blocked, etc. ツ Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 00:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
RemoveDoesn't have to be viewed as some horrible thing. If this person wishes to plug back in down the road, that can absolutely be considered.--Bddpaux (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Remove Leaderboard (talk) 05:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- A rationale would be nice, honestly. George Ho (talk) 18:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- @George Ho: actually didn't see the need for one here as others have explained why before (i.e, inactivity). Leaderboard (talk) 05:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- A rationale would be nice, honestly. George Ho (talk) 18:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- No clear consensus - after ten months of voting, the balance appears to be four in favour of removal and three against. Although the policy is for these votes to take place, there has to be clear consensus before removal can take place. [24Cr][talk] 20:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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Nominating myself. One of ours is 100% in-the-wind and the other is about 98% in the same category. We need at least one CU active and checked in, although I am heavily focused on Reviewing and developing Reviewers (primarily) at the moment.--Bddpaux (talk) 19:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am withdrawing this request. Any Administrator: Take action. Close this as withdrawn.--Bddpaux (talk) 19:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- I guess you've brushed up on the technical knowledge needed? (I ask since you asked Acagastya last month what CUs' duties are.) Also Acagastya is still fairly responsive to CU-related inquiries, not that having another CU would hurt. Heavy Water (talk) 03:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have, yes. We really need 2 active and involved here.--Bddpaux (talk) 20:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Paul has left a message at his own user page, saying that he's taking a wikibreak after all this. --George Ho (talk) 23:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would like to request that due to recent events, Cromium not close this as no consensus or unsuccessful.Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Unless @Bddpaux has an objection, I would like to say that since Bddpaux has withdrawn I am fine with @Cromium closing this as unsuccessful. Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 23:39, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Support Very active, long-time editor here with advanced user permissions and who has already publicly declared his identity. No issues on other wikis. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions/CheckUser/Bddpaux&diff=prev&oldid=4783146https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions/Bureaucrat/Bddpaux_(2)&diff=prev&oldid=4783137—Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)- Sorry, but I don't know why you use this diff of someone's minor correction (or something). George Ho (talk) 23:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- If I had to guess they meant the next diff, mine ([1]) @George Ho Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 23:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Amended. Sorry/thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- If I had to guess they meant the next diff, mine ([1]) @George Ho Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 23:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't know why you use this diff of someone's minor correction (or something). George Ho (talk) 23:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Support We could definitely use another CU. I don't see anything that would cause me any issues in supporting this request. A.S. Thawley (talk) (calendar) 18:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)- Comment: I stand by the need for another local CU, but I am hesitant to lend my support to anyone at the moment. We'll see. A.S. Thawley (talk) (calendar) 17:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support CUs have less politicking than bureaucrats, and the benefits outweigh any potential issues. Bddpaux doesn't seem like the person to leak CU info because of a spat. This could be a good opportunity to rebuild some reputation. A.S. Thawley (talk) (calendar) 19:18, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Support very nice well deserved user BigKrow (talk) 22:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
SupportI have recently had the need to request CU and unfortunately, neither local CU has responded. And our need for Checkusers will only increase once Temporary Accounts is rolled out. So I see this as both a short- and long-term solution for us. I also agree with Justin's comment above. Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 23:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have withdrawn my vote because the requester has announced a long-term break from the project.[2] I think this request should be closed as it is no longer supported by the requester given their stated, long-term break. Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 13:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Support, I am not entirely convinced that this wiki should have local CUs. It's really too inactive and underserved with admin support to justify having them, and I think this can be taken over by stewards sooner or later, who are quicker to handle CU requests most of the time. However, this wiki does get quite a bit of abuse to the level where I think it does somewhat justify having local CheckUsers, and if there is someone relatively active who wants to help out, then that's positive. EPIC (talk) 08:45, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the issues pointed out here; I am not sure what to think. I need to think about this for a while. EPIC (talk) 01:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Strong Support Very active and experienced editor, already advanced permissions, we need another CU, disclosed identity, etc. Also, this user makes up more than 20% of this entire wikis editing, and is the main reason it hasn't totally fallen apart. Well deserved.Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 23:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose The fact that you don't know what consensus is, and launch personal attacks and are not civil, and fail to comply with don't assume is getting me close to requesting removal of some of your current tools. If I'm that far, yeah I'm definetly not supporting you get more. We don't need checkuser being abused for personal arguements. See User talk:Cromium for more details.Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 23:06, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Support - As one of the current checkusers (and a former steward), I don't want to see this wiki relying entirely on stewards. Most people are familiar with English Wikipedia and often incorrectly judge Wikinews by the activity levels of English Wikipedia. [24Cr][talk] 20:09, 27 May 2024 (UTC)- Support solely on merit. Regarding @Cromium:'s point, I've seen many times that the reluctance of this wiki to take help from other users has been, to the detriment of the wiki. Let's be fair - I don't normally see the level of requests that rise to requiring a CU, and this wiki has a problem in that admins don't seem to be around to do standard housekeeping tasks. How about ensuring that stewards can always action CU requests irrespective of the presence/absence of CU users? That's how it works on en.wikibooks. Leaderboard (talk) 07:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support A worthy candidate with experience in the press. — Виктор Пинчук (talk) 15:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Have enough experience. also having another active CU currently seems necessary. Asked42 (talk) 16:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- As from a very ignorant point of view, I think this is a conflict between editors and should be solved between them. Although I am not in favor of WP:Canvassing, their asking for a vote doesn't change the vote that I might make. Perhaps, I am not active on Wikinews and still lack expertise (very much) to blame anyone. Asked42 (talk) 19:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Support I've been lurking on this project for a while (I was not told by anyone to comment here) and am happy to move this one closer to the required number of supports. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reaffirming support. This project has had a very low bus factor for ages. We shouldn't make it even lower because of internal bickering. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf, Asheiou, BigKrow, Michael.C.Wright, EPIC, Me Da Wikipedian, Виктор Пинчук, Asked42, Ixfd64: Pppery and Leaderboard reaffirm their own support for this CU nomination. Do you now reaffirm your own support for it? --George Ho (talk) 22:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- No, I am changing it to oppose due to recent events and my comment at User talk:Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 23:03, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- As I've also posted on the bureaucrat request, I'm taking a step back from all of the wiki politics for a bit to see if constructive progress can be made before coming to my opinion. A.S. Thawley (talk) (calendar) 02:35, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate your aversion toward politics, but do you still wanna support this CU nomination after the post Paul made to me? (Already mentioned this at Paul's crat nomination) --George Ho (talk) 03:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would just like to retract my vote on both nominations, and that's my opinion for the moment. I don't want anything to do with what's going on. I've neglected to share this here about myself because it has no bearing on my ability to report the news, but I have BPD, and all of the arguments that are going on at the moment are not doing me any favours emotionally. Please do not ask again, I will come to a final conclusion in my own time with the evidence I've seen, present and future. A.S. Thawley (talk) (calendar) 17:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not being a native speaker, I'm not sure that fully understand what's going on; I only realize that this is some kind of small conflict. I leave opinion the same. — Виктор Пинчук (talk) 04:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- To explain it briefly, Asheiou had a reviewer request. Bddpaux didn't realize (or ignored) that there was no consensus, and made Asheiou reviewer. A bunch of users got upset, and then Cromium undid it. So Bddpaux wrote a nasty note on Cromium's talk page, which people got upset about, and then did the same thing on George Ho's talk page for asking if people wanted to reconsider. A bunch of people did change their opinion.@Виктор Пинчук: Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 11:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate your aversion toward politics, but do you still wanna support this CU nomination after the post Paul made to me? (Already mentioned this at Paul's crat nomination) --George Ho (talk) 03:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf, Asheiou, BigKrow, Michael.C.Wright, EPIC, Me Da Wikipedian, Виктор Пинчук, Asked42, Ixfd64: Pppery and Leaderboard reaffirm their own support for this CU nomination. Do you now reaffirm your own support for it? --George Ho (talk) 22:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reaffirming support. This project has had a very low bus factor for ages. We shouldn't make it even lower because of internal bickering. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Support - long-time admin and can be trusted. --Ixfd64 (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Changing to weak support due to concerns brought up by others. --Ixfd64 (talk) 01:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose... reluctantly – A post at my user talk page (begging to support the nomination) and subsequent replies (no.1,no.2), which clearly reveals emotional response, make me wonder whether to trust Paul with the CU tools. I appreciate his frustrations about current policies, like the RFP policy. However, alternatively, he should've raised the concerns at the policy talk page before self-nomination. Furthermore, begging for support reeks desperation, IMO. There are no current local rules against canvassing, but begging for a vote is a lot to ask. Also, hostility toward stewards, especially from
"oppose""support" votes, due to their perceived inexperience with Wikinews sites smells like an attempt to maintain the project's autonomy. I appreciate those wanting to save this project, but giving him the CU tools merely to improve or save the project is hardly a reason to support the nomination. Sorry. George Ho (talk) 12:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC); corrected, 20:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- You are way out of line using the word "begging" and I don't appreciate it one single bit. I am engaged in news work and try to move that forward here. You show up here, flog about re: various permissions (who has them and who doesn't) and then quack crap of this nature. You can oppose and that is fine. Consensus matters around this place - but you'd better check yourself using the word "begging" whenever it comes to me. I hope to help and build up this place, (maybe to return it to some remnant of its former glory days)and little more. My desire for CU is only built around that end.--Bddpaux (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry @Bddpaux:, I think George has a point here. Your actions did seem like closer to "begging" than what's normal. I'm not opposing you; I think you would do good as a CU, but you need to be a bit more patient. Leaderboard (talk) 16:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- You are way out of line using the word "begging" and I don't appreciate it one single bit. I am engaged in news work and try to move that forward here. You show up here, flog about re: various permissions (who has them and who doesn't) and then quack crap of this nature. You can oppose and that is fine. Consensus matters around this place - but you'd better check yourself using the word "begging" whenever it comes to me. I hope to help and build up this place, (maybe to return it to some remnant of its former glory days)and little more. My desire for CU is only built around that end.--Bddpaux (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- I guess my initial thoughts could be wrong about being asked to favor the nomination after reading this. I really do honestly wanna support the nomination when Paul asked, but the replies and frustrations amid the nomination pushed me toward the opposite. George Ho (talk) 12:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- ...and while I'm at it: Thanks for pouring gas on the "frustrations" whatever those happen to be.--Bddpaux (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- This and that and that at someone's unsuccessful reviewer nomination now reaffrim my opposition to this CU nomination: assuming there was a "consensus" (when such assumption was challenged), (sarcastically?) trying to close this as "successful", and saying that the person not becoming a reviewer is the last thing Paul needs. Furthermore, I can't help wonder how Paul would treat someone accused of sockpuppeteering and other anonymous editors. --George Ho (talk) 18:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @George Ho:, wasn't the first two diffs before Cromium challenged the consensus? Leaderboard (talk) 19:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- According to the history log, the diffs must've been. George Ho (talk) 19:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @George Ho:, wasn't the first two diffs before Cromium challenged the consensus? Leaderboard (talk) 19:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose - I have tried to be supportive but this user has made a mess of a request for reviewer by failing to realise there was no consensus, granting the permission but not closing the discussion. When criticised, this user resorted to describing others as "quacking and barking”, which I assume means that he thinks they are animals. After I tried to find a solution, I concluded there was no consensus after several weeks and closed the discussion. This user has responded by leaving an angry message on my talk page], blaming me for the mess he made. For years, we have put up with his incompetence and rudeness. He has no respect for anyone that disagrees with him. He has no regard for any guidelines or policies, often describing them in disparaging terms. The warning bell was when I read that until recently, he had no idea what a Checkuser does. I have lost all confidence in his ability to handle any challenging tasks such as carrying out checks of IPs. [24Cr][talk] 18:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Closed as unsuccessful. [24Cr][talk] 09:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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Request withdrawn. Ternera (talk) 16:51, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
Hello! I would like to nominate myself for the role of sysop on English Wikinews. I am an experienced contributor, particularly on Bengali Wikinews, where I have made over 1,000 edits. In addition, I am also active as an editor on English Wikinews. I am genuinely enthusiastic about contributing to this project and would be honored to take on more responsibility. I hope the community will consider giving me the opportunity to serve as a sysop. Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 12:14, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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Comment Md Mobashir Hossain has been active on English Wikinews for just over three months and as of this comment, has made 139 edits to English Wikinews. —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Reviewer) 14:52, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Question Md Mobashir Hossain, this is a three-part question: what do you see as the current need for an additional administrator on English Wikinews? What do you consider the most important responsibilities of an administrator? And why are you seeking adminship here rather than on Bengali Wikinews, where you have more experience? —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Reviewer) 14:52, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Michael.C.Wright I am responding to the last point. I do not wish to become an admin of bnwikinews because it is not an active project, and Asked42 is ok for this project. I believe that an admin should be both an anti-vandal and an active contributor. Finally, we do need more admins, as currently only 3 to 5 are active in this project. Note: Some times we need global sysop for doing anti vandal works Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 15:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Comment I am also an anti vandal and I am contributing as an anti vandal at English Wikinews.Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 15:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Comment Hi @George Ho @Wikiwide @BigKrow @Lofi Gurl @Back ache @Md Mobashir Hossain @Almondo2025, @Dsuke1998AEOS, @Ternera, @Monsieur2137 @Asked42, @Sheminghui.WU, @excelblue (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire here) A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please Subscribe to this section and to this talk page, and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below:
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Oppose In my opinion he needs more experience in enwikinews. R1F4T (talk) 15:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, @R1F4T. Is experience is everything for a sysop? You should read the Wikinews:Administrators page. Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 14:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Md Mobashir Hossain not only you have less experience in enwikinews but also I doubt you can't apply the terms and policys in an unbiased way.
- This is totally my personal opinion. R1F4T (talk) 14:14, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- @R1F4T Oh! No problem. Thanks for volunteering!
Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 14:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- @R1F4T Oh! No problem. Thanks for volunteering!
- @BigKrow Am I a sock? What you are saying! It can not be a reason! Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 04:51, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- @BigKrow You are saying that my wrong is I am a Bangladeshi!!! Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 10:30, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- Why are you attacking me? I just said Bangla accounts are suspicious. @Md Mobashir Hossain BigKrow (talk) 21:24, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @BigKrow I am not attacking you! Why I will attack you? I have just said that It can not be a reasong that I am a Bangladeshi. And I am not a sock! Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 07:56, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Just checking whether you are still interested in continuing this nomination or you would like to withdraw it. @Md Mobashir Hossain Thanks. Gryllida 08:08, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- No! I am interested but close this. I will re-apply later! Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 16:45, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Just checking whether you are still interested in continuing this nomination or you would like to withdraw it. @Md Mobashir Hossain Thanks. Gryllida 08:08, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- @BigKrow I am not attacking you! Why I will attack you? I have just said that It can not be a reasong that I am a Bangladeshi. And I am not a sock! Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 07:56, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Why are you attacking me? I just said Bangla accounts are suspicious. @Md Mobashir Hossain BigKrow (talk) 21:24, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, @R1F4T. Is experience is everything for a sysop? You should read the Wikinews:Administrators page. Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 14:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Oppose Blocked on bnwiki for violating Wikipedia's Etiquette guidelines. So it’s a no from me, an administrator's behaviour should be polite. You should improve your behaviour and reapply later. Tanbiruzzaman (talk) 05:08, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah! That is completely true and I am seriously feeling guilty for that! But from my last some months activity, I was completely inactive and researched in Wikipedia rules. I have improved my behaviour. But as I have not working on this project for several month, I will be active and worked for this project for some months and then reapply for this positon. Withdrawing this proposal! Thanks @Gryllida, @Bddpaux, @R1F4T, @SHB2000, @Tanbiruzzaman, @BigKrow and @Ternera Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 16:44, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
Oppose per Tanbiruzzaman. --SHB2000 (talk) 08:37, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
Support requesting to connect on some platform for training i.e. irc, discord, telegram, matrix, xmpp, or some other. Gryllida 19:04, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
CommentThat is not a terrible idea -- but can we give it a small amount of additional time, please? I just want to see what he's done around here over the past few months. Just a little more time.--Bddpaux (talk) 21:05, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with @Bddpaux BigKrow (talk) 21:15, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
Oppose Barely any recent activity on this project. I also share some of the concerns mentioned by Tanbiruzzaman. Ternera (talk) 21:41, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
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Closed as successful. Gryllida 08:18, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
(When I went to nominate Koavf for adminship, I opened my mouth and couldn't close it for two minutes. The form loaded on my smartphone and wouldn't let me type my nomination request. I believe the candidate possesses a talent to get things going properly; if it is needed to burn some javascript or networking issues with fire, I have confidence that Koavf is able to do so.) From my point of view, Koavf has shown a reasonable understanding of the project policies, technicalities and is an excellent communicator. I trust that Koavf is willing and capable of supporting the project from administrative side, both for page content administering, taking protected requests, and other tasks. May the force be with you, Koavf. --Gryllida 21:49, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]- Comment I accept the nomination and I am happy to help the community however I can. I have advanced user rights on several WMF wikis, am a generally trusted contributor for over 20 years, and have written a handful of front-page pieces here, including some with original reporting. I would look to fight vandalism, maintain the infrastructure, and be of service for requests. As G mentioned, I also have some competence at CSS/JavaScript/Lua/MediaWiki, so I can sometimes help with those issues. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:55, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
- Question: Will you try to write some news articles? Thank you. @Koavf BigKrow (talk) 00:32, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- I reckon, but I imagine that it will only be a few here and there, which is similar to how I have written in the past. Being an admin will encourage me to generally be more active on the site and I do actually have two interviews recorded that I have yet to publish, so I have some original reporting in the chamber. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:44, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Question: Will you try to write some news articles? Thank you. @Koavf BigKrow (talk) 00:32, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
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Support as nominator. Gryllida 21:49, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
Support BigKrow (talk) 00:31, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
Support -- Asked42 (talk) 15:41, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Support Jianhui67 (talk) 04:18, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
Support No concerns. Ternera (talk) 21:37, 17 November 2025 (UTC)- @Gryllida: as per Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Policy, I think this can be closed as successful and the permission granted. We definitely need more admins. --Asked42 (talk) 07:22, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
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This user's last edit was on 28 Aug 2023, as per WN:PeP their administrator rights should be removed now. -- Tanbiruzzaman (talk) 16:07, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Sysop right removed. This request may be closed. --Gryllida 20:22, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
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Support…removal of privs.—Bddpaux (talk) 19:20, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
Support – I advocated the removal of this now-inactive admin, who promised to be more active when this user was notified about the previous nomination. That promise hasn't come to fruition for at least two years. If only there's a criterion on admins making no more than one hundred total edits and log activities within the last five years.... (That's Wikipedia, isn't it?) --George Ho (talk) 08:23, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
Remove. Codename Noreste (talk) 02:24, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
Remove Regarding George Ho’s comment: the previous desysop request is here. After replying to that request, the user has made no further edits to Wikinews, and their last contribution prior to that discussion was in 2021. In effect, their only activity here since 2021 was responding to the earlier desysop request. The project has changed significantly in that time, and under the Permission expiry policy, that gap in participation provides sufficient basis for removal of the tools.Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Reviewer) 19:44, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
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ShakataGaNai (talk · contribs) — removal
[edit]This user's last edit was on 25 Aug 2023, as per WN:PeP their administrator rights should be removed now. -- Tanbiruzzaman (talk) 16:04, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]- @Gryllida: feel free to remove ShakataGaNai's reviewer and administrator privileges together. There is consensus to remove them. Codename Noreste (talk) 22:19, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
Done; this request may be archived now. Gryllida 23:48, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
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Support removal of privs.--Bddpaux (talk) 21:05, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
Support desysopping this inactive admin. I still can't believe that we are trying to ignore the WN:PEP or not letting stewards perform procedure removals of admins and crats at this time. --George Ho (talk) 08:12, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
- Just as a note here from a steward; we are able to remove local sysop and bureaucrat flags, but in enwikinews' case, bureaucrats on this wiki have the ability to remove sysop flags (but not bureaucrat flags) locally. That's why, per policy, we should primarily leave those duties to bureaucrats at this wiki, unless it's either an emergency or a case where local bureaucrats don't respond. I declined the requests submitted to us for that reason, @Gryllida: perhaps you could assist with these two removals? EPIC (talk) 15:17, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
Remove. Codename Noreste (talk) 02:23, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
Remove They haven't been active anywhere for nearly two years, and here for over two years[3].Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Reviewer) 19:25, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
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