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stylesheet: some gratuitous opinion


i think the contrast b/w the white text background and the dark blue margins is too much. a slight blue-gray or blue-green background for text? Doldrums 06:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

hmm, I kinda like the contrast. I might try some different backgrounds later. Thanks for the opinion. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Sorry I misread your comment. I might try that, the problem is many templates are designed to work with white backgrounds (colored slightly offwhite, etc), I may try it though. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply



Where can I see the old v. new stylesheets? On the links you provide I can only see the old??? maybe I am mistaken? Jason Safoutin 18:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Can you rephrase that? In firefox its view→Page Style→Datrio+MrM. By old do you mean standard monobook? Bawolff ☺☻ 23:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
I got an e-mail from you about the redesigns you are doing...I recall seeing a layout for articles?? something [fancy...]. The so called "old version." I see the old but where's the new above it? :) I rather like the old one but the headline should fill the grey or blue space or have the "breaking news" across there. Jason Safoutin 00:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
I would assume monobook...but for some reason in the past with the roll back button, before becoming an admin, I could not get it to work. But I also could have done it wrong. Jason Safoutin 00:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Nope, Wikinews:Custom skin is a seperate, dead project that I have nothing to do with. I Just propose changing the CSS. I could change the CSS for you to my version to show you what I mean if you want. (Also go on IRC to discuss too) Bawolff ☺☻ 00:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Aww dead? I was thinking of more along the lines of a regular use in articles...Would that be possible? Lets bring the dead to life ;) Jason Safoutin 00:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
I don't have the necissary skills to develop that type of skin (also tried to get it to work on my own mediawiki install, but failed misrable. CSS for that is missing as well) I'd love to do that if I had a clue what I was doing on that front. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
And I have to admit as well I also have no clue how, or the tools to do it. I just think that the white background and same style just get kinda there any easier way to do it? Jason Safoutin 00:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
As for tools, its just php for that and you can do it in notepad, unfourtanatly I don't know PHP. Could I set your user account to use my CSS to show you what I mean for a CSS redesign? Bawolff ☺☻ 00:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply



hi, will try it out. btw, there appears to be a glitch with the page footer (with the copyright notice, "Wikimedia" and "Mediawiki powered" thingies - its background turns white on mousover, and reverts to its normal translucant blue when the mouse is moved off (on Firefoxes old (1.0.7) and new ( Doldrums 04:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes, thats intentional. Should I kill the effect? Bawolff ☺☻ 18:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
oh? what is it for? Doldrums 09:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
To look cool (: Bawolff ☺☻ 21:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply



Great! Didn't know about those, glad to see they are already quite popular! --Fastfission 14:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply



Yeah... but that doesn't seem to be the case, now does it? ;) irid:t 04:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! I was working on it till 4 O'clock in the morning. Yawn... Nice to know you like it :D --Errant 09:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews User Statistics Image


Hey Bawolff, NGerda here. The image was created by me from the Wikimedia official internal statistics data, so I'd assume it was fair game for Wikinews, but it really doesn't matter, since it's over a year old now. Best of luck to you! -- NGerda 06:37, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. If you created it from the statistics data, then its whatever license you choose for it, as only presentation can be copyrighted, not data (I think. IANAL don't quote me on that). So anyways, if you could tell me what license you would put that image under, that would be great. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:55, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Public Domain is fine.  :) -- NGerda 00:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Thankyou. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

"Cat food"


Nice edit summary. —this is messedrocker (talk) 05:22, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

You know thats the second time I've done that, and someone's pointed it out. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Lol. I just noticed that now. FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 00:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)Reply


For hardwork, building up numerous articles, going through doing the mindnumbing tasks, working hard on the wonderful new stylesheets, I give you this barnstar as a thanks. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 07:10, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thank you very much. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

date template


good job!... now let's see what people have to say about it. Doldrums 12:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'm glad you got my message!


I'll be seeing you around hopefully. :o) Rubikfreak 14:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi Admin


Could you delete Extremely drug-resistant tuberculosis strain emerges in South Africa per copyvio, and replace it with the new Extremely drug-resistant tuberculosis strain emerges in South Africa/Temp? Thankyou!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

no problem. done. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
I really hope you don't mind... think it was slowing computers like mine here, plus it took like forever to Show preview...--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Don't worry, I don't mind. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Please make a better one because I didn't do a very good job. Mabie you can make a better one. FellowWikiNews (W) 20:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)Reply



Sorry about article didn't know I had to use my own words.

Don't worry, Its your first article. Everything has to be original, if its not a quote. Happy editing, and good luck with your article. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Reply



It was ok. One thing I could not stand though, is the repeated logo in the background. To tell you the truth, I come here very rarely, so I just removed it because I only wanted to try it. notafish }<';> 22:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Okay thanks for trying it. By the way, Datrio is basicly this minus the background. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)Reply



Just want to draw your attention to the current admin nomination vote. Crimson 21:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Admin Alert


Please visit this, there is a dispute that this user is webhosting his stuff. It says on top "THIS IS A SELF MADE SITE TO SHOW MY WEBPAGE". Anyways is there a wikinews template message in relevance to be placed in his page? Zer T 23:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)Reply



You seem to be consistently misspelling "mathematics" as "mathamatics". The following pages need to be moved from Category:Mathamatics to Category:Mathematics:

And then, in my opinion, Category:Mathamatics should be deleted. - dcljr 23:31, 24 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

<sticks nose in> articles in cat:mathamatics have been fixed. am nominating the category for deletion. Doldrums 08:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for fixing my spelling. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Doldrums' main page


hi, saw ur comment in the redesign page. have since then unhidden a leettle more. i'd appreciate it if u could take another look and comment (perhaps here). thanks :), Doldrums 08:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Admin vote


Thanks for supporting my successful admin nomination! I will try to live up to the confidence that's been shown in me. Crimson 17:17, 29 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

RE: wireless talk thingy


I do, however, I don't know anywhere I can upload PNG files. If you can find a place, I will... Thunderhead(talk) 23:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

[[Image:WirelessPNG.png]] There you go! Thunderhead(talk) 23:50, 4 October 2006 (UTC)Reply



Hey Bawolff!

TimLee90 here, my apologies for violating wikinews policies. Thank you for informing me!

Don't worry, we all make mistakes. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Amgine can not de-admin himself


See this "Stewards are the only users who can remove administrator privileges." on the administrators' page. MrM wanted to be taken off the admin list and Eloquence said "No; not unless he was deadmined by the Stewards." 00:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

No, you don't know what you are talking about. MrM wanted to hide that he was an admin, Amgine IS NOT AN ADMIN. Stewards removed his admin privs. you can go talk to them if you don't believe me. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Please be helpful and provide the link showing the Stewards stripped him of his authority. Messed and you have been wrong more often than not. 00:46, 8 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Edit removal


NO! Cspurrier said edits must be left; see here where he put this personal attack back.[1]after someone removed it. 01:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

These are two different situations. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)Reply



I have no problems with his block length being reduced, and agree that an indefinite ban might have been harsh. I do ask, however, that his user-page (the one on which he was spamming) not be undeleted. Thanks. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) 07:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I agree that the user page being deleted is a good idea. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Categories on Commons


Would you mind sending me some cats on Commons? Thunderhead(talk) 21:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! Although it does seem like i'd actually look at the main page. :P Thunderhead(talk) 01:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

RE: Snow in Iraq


You know, I didn't really think about that. So much for my trust in Google. You would think that 'American Embassy in Iraq' would bring some reliable results. Let me see if I can find another. Thanks! Thunderhead(talk) 01:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I actually would never thought of that either, it was the anon that brought it up, then I noticed RCMP outside the building, and that just seemed odd. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:13, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
yep and the anon is the guy they keep blocking; me. 01:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Messedrocker is Amgine; here's the undisputable proof


[2] " I restored his talk page history and replaced it with a notice. —this is messedrocker [[User talk:Messedrocker|<font "

[3] [4]

Abba 12:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

And you are neutralizer as well as being full of it. Look at the dates. MessedRocker restored Amgine's page on the 5 (As noted by special:log/delete - put user talk:Amgine in the title there). Then 5 days later (on oct 10) Amgine screwed arround with his page, as he can do if he whishes. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:24, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
See my response on Eloquence's talk page. —this is messedrocker (talk) 23:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Re: Radio


That was on MessedRocker's talk page. I knew about Wikinews Audio, but I didn't know if I could compile those or not. Thunderhead(talk) 03:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Reply



Hey Bawolff, thanks for the welcome message. I am indeed the same Khoikhoi from the English Wikipedia. Khoikhoi 02:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thats good. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Tamil wikinews


Bawolff, thanks for leaving message at my user page in tamil wikipedia. glad that u took steps for the prelaunch pahse of tamil wikinews..but i don see a mention of it in ?? - w:ta:user:ravidreams-- 08:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I actually don't know any tamil (or any other language for that matter other then english), so I can not start anything in the pre-launch phase as I don't know the language. I just put it there as its definitly ready to start translating stuff. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Reply



Thanks Bawolff for your help on this image. However I'm not sure if Jerome Chen will agree to let this image to be fair used. I will call Jerome Chen by phone to have some double check for copyright issue later.--H.T. Chien / 眼鏡虎 (Discuss|Contributions) 16:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I think we're legally allowed to use any logo under fair use if its the logo of something thats the subject of a story. (IANAL, so I proablly don't know what I'm talking about.). I have also emailed him. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Reply



Thanks for letting me know. That was me, but it was one of my wireless IPs. Thunderhead(talk) 06:53, 15 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Ok, Just wanted to make sure that it was you. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the concern. Yep, then I edit alot from Lab at school, so I'll try to login @ school. Thunderhead(talk) 00:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Re: WN, WN:A


Sorry about that! Hey, worst that can happen is not get accepted, right? check WN:A Thunderhead(talk) 22:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I think you proabblly will. Best of luck. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I'll probably need it. I think I destroyed my fingernails when I tried for AR! :P Thunderhead(talk) 22:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
WN:AR is harder then WN:A. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
So I could tell. I'm glad though. My doctor advised me not to do WN:AR for a while. Thunderhead(talk) 22:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Reply



I am interested in doing the "Today's Matches" section on the Football Portal. Ross-1 17:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Excellent. Basiclly what you have to do is just create a page for everyday, and what matches are on that day, and it will automaticlly rotate through them. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
In more details, what you have to do:
  1. === [[Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/1|01, February 2006]] ===
    *Arsenal v West Ham, kick off at 20:00
    *Aston Villa v Chelsea, kick off at 19:45
    *Blackburn v Man Utd, kick off at 20:00
    *Liverpool v Birmingham, kick off at 20:00
    *Man City v Newcastle, kick off at 19:45
    *Portsmouth v Bolton, kick off at 19:45
    ===[[Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/7|07, February 2005]]===
    No football games today.
    • For days with games, transclude it into the month page
    • Should use this format (note the artificial line doesn't need to be there as subpages has been enabled in Wikinews now.
    <noinclude><small>< [[Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006|2006]] | [[Portal:Football|Football]] </small><!-- artificial t'll its truly enabled --><br style="clear:both;" /></noinclude>
    <!-- more to come -->
    [[Category:February 2006|F]]
  2. Every year, make a new year page. see Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006 for details.
  3. Note none of this is set in stone, If you think anything would be better another way, feel free to be bold and change it. This is just how its done before.Bawolff ☺☻ 22:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Reply



Were you slightly ebrious when you posted this?

  • user:Stevenfruitsmaak is an admin!!! He will weild the mop and bucket like it never has been before, we will enter a new age of enlightenment! [5]

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Well, now you know that people read it, and I promptly added it to my watchlist . I already added the word elsewhere in the wiktionary, but for your courtesy I've created, for the first time on wiktionary, a new entry: wikt:ebrious.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:04, 20 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
I'm glad your reading it. And to answer were original question, no. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Re:Poll on Cat:Israel


Thank you for offering to cast a vote on my behalf. I have since been unblocked and have responded to the poll. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) 03:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Talk:Mars rover engineers build test sandbox


Hi and sorry for late reply, I don't come here very often. I know it looks like a valid question, but this user has been leaving this message on many projects; see for instance fr.wikipedia, en.wikiversity, meta.wikimedia. He has also left it on Commons and en.wikipedia, but it's too difficult to search the logs. guillom 14:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

See also [6] --Cspurrier 18:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, I've been told that about that by a number of people now. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply



What is this for? Thunderhead(talk) 00:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

See Dragonfires recent edit summary, and talk page. Bawolff 00:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Alrighty. Mind putting Template:Nopublish so it won't show up in Developing Stories? Thunderhead(talk) 00:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Well the entire point was to have it show up in developing stories. Actually we could proablly delete it now. Bawolff 00:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
Okay, I'll take your word for it, administrator! Thunderhead(talk) 00:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply



Yep, that's what I was trying to do. Course I've always been bad at anything other than Wikicoding and Javascript. I've never really understood CSS. Thanks for your help. Thunderhead(talk) 01:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Glad I could help. I've always been bad at js (slowly learning), but love CSS. You know you can edit your Javascript at user:Thunderhead/monobook.js too. Bawolff 04:33, 4 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

My RfA

Bawolff, Thank you for your comment on my recent RfA, which passed with a final tally of 6/2/2. This is a great achievement for me - and I cannot express what it means to me to become an administrator. If there is anything I can do to assist you in any way, don't hesitate to contact me! --Skenmy(tcwi) 16:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Your welcome. congratulations. Bawolff 00:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply



Your CSS file:

@import "";

I tried to use this, and It worked in the preview, but when I saved, it didn't. Mind being Tech. Support? Thunderhead(talk)(Check out my RFA test) 00:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Never mind, it just kicked in. Great work! Thunderhead(talk)(Check out my RFA test) 00:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Glad to hear your trying it - Also, theres a couple of other ones you can try as alternate style-sheets (In firefox View->page style->selection, in other browsers something else, in Internet explorer nothing 'cause IE sucks. might not work though if you have other stylesheets and stuff in special:mypage/monobook.css). Yeah you generally need to wait a while or do a hard refresh (ctrl+R depending on browser) to get it to work. So, what do you think? Bawolff 00:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Also check out Wikinews:Skins. Bawolff 00:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Awesome work! Everthing is great, except for the tabs, which are now capitalized. Good work on that, but it takes some getting used to. Thunderhead(talk)(Check out my RFA test) 00:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Glad you like it. I personally never understood why the tabs were all lowercase - I always thought you capitilized the first letter on a title... but If you like it better lowercase, there is a line you can add to your monobook.css to make that happen. Bawolff 00:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Nah, I love your design, it just takes a while to get used to. Thunderhead(talk)(Check out my RFA test) 00:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Glad you like it, but I can't take all of the credit. It was mostly pl:wikireporter:Datrio's and MrM's [7] work. I just put them together. Bawolff 01:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Re: Wikinews capitilization in Mediawiki:Sidebar


How do I get capitalization in the sidebar when using IE? —FellowWikiNews (W) 02:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Basicly a slight variation on what you did. You added a different redesign/css thingy I did to your monobook (Thats also included in the stylesheet you need however as well. see User:Bawolff/Sandbox/MessedRocker based main page redesign. I added the correct one. do a hard refresh (ctrl+R . If using AWB then I don't know if that keystroke works or not).
Nice design! It just takes a while to get used to. FellowWikiNews (W) 02:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Glad you like it. know if only I could convince people to make it the default.... Bawolff 02:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Image:Logo collage.png


Did Wikispecies change thier logo? I remember that there was a poll to change it from 3D to 2D. Thunderhead(talk)(Check out my RFA test) 02:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes the collage is outdated. Bawolff 06:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)Reply



Absolutely not. Got for it! --Skenmy(tcwi) 19:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Baghdad story


Can the Baghdad story be published yet? Sugarpine 00:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

responded on articles talk page. Bawolff 00:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)Reply



Sure you can put the numbers on the front page, just need to set my alarm earlier so i can have enough time to record. terinjokes User Page / Talk 03:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! I guess I have to update it now :) If anyone wants to help out, please leave a message on my talk. terinjokes User Page / Talk @ school

RE: Review


Hey, Bawollf. Thank you for the comments on my Peer Review, but what do you mean "this page"? Thunderhead(talk)(Check out my RFA test) 21:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

speedy dpl


thanks for catching that! shld've looked myself, i guess.  — Doldrums(talk) 08:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

No problem. Bawolff 23:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Adminship thanks


Hi there! I'd like to thank you for your support to become an admin, it's greatly appreciated! -- Zanimum 14:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)Reply



Google ruined my life, because I was listed in their search results! I'm forever doomed! terinjokes User Page / Talk 17:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

umm, okay. Bawolff 04:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

The Cabal


Actually, I meant for that to seem like the "cabal" had marked that out. I have changed the link to Special:Cabal so that it is more clear. Thanks for the concern, though! Thunderhead(talk)(Check out my RFA test) 08:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

What cabal? Bawolff 00:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Exactly. By the way, thanks for the island. It is freezing down here :) Thunderhead(talk)(Check out my RFA test) 04:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Your welcome, Happy Birthday. Bawolff 04:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Reply



I answered your question regarding the picture in my talk page Towsonu2003 04:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Venezuelan Rally Photos


No, I received permission from the person who took them.

Okay. Could you Please put who you recieved permission from, their exact words, how you recieved it (EMail, in person written etc), and if the picture is avalible online, where online on the image description page. (What would also be really great is if you did this but that's a little complicated and not required, but it would make it so all wikimedia projects in all languages could use that picture) thanks. Bawolff 07:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
I am not the author I have had emails with him, and he didn't mind. I deleted the e-mail I cna e-mail him again if need be, but he is a busy blogger and might not check it for a while.
If you look at the articles's sources they are right there at as the bottom source.
Just delete it then, I know his e-mail, but he is extremely busy on the campaign trail and this is a small reason to bother him. If you still need the e-mail just ask me. The 13th 4postle

Revamp Main Page


I propose that the front page be revamped to display more articles at any one time and should displya categories like any news site. In order to sustain people's interest in the project, we need plenty of updates all the time and that featured main page stories be categorily arranged. Please check normal news sites such as googlenews for an idea on what I am saying. The revamp would include the following changed.

  • More stories on the homepage.
  • Bigger Picture for main story.
  • News Categories
  • Change title fonts back to Arial.
  • Change logo to resemble Wikipedia's main logo.

Please discuss this matter. TownCrier 01:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Reply



thanks! i always enjoy a cuppa :)  — Doldrums(talk) 08:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Your welcome. Bawolff 08:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletion of images


Hello Bawolff, sorry for troubling you. The google is not responsible for the copyrights. The uploader on picassaweb has their own copyrights. I have contacted the uploader, may be he could clarify the copyrights of the images. He claims the gallery as public album. May be they could use as in public domain once the uploader confirms the copyright. Regrads, Shyam (T/C) 08:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes google is not responsible for the copyrights in any way. its all the author. However public album definitly does not equal public domain. Could you perhaps forward me his responses to you contacting him? Thanks. User:Bawolff / 09:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Reply



Bawolff, I am not that guy. Yes, you are correct. Someone else is using my name to spam the commons mailing list. I did not subscribe the commons list, so I was not aware of it. Very thanks to you for letting me know. Could someone warn/ban that user? Shyam (T/C) 06:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'm sure they already have. (I have no idea how that works on mailing lists). I just thought you proablly wanted to know what was happening. Bawolff 04:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

free culture


I replied with another link regarding Lessig's free culture on my talk page Towsonu2003 07:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

User notice: spam2


Excellent work with your Monobook file! I love the live spell check, and the templates at the top are perfect. We bow down to you, O Modifier! Thunderhead - (talk) 03:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. But it's impossible to put a live spell checker in css, you'd have to use JS for that. have you updated to Firefox 2 recently? Bawolff 01:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Yes, that I did, Bawolff. But I'm just telling you what I saw on the skin. Toolbar. 02:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Boy, I feel stupid for not adding {{WikimediaMention}} to the interview. I was caught up in the moment. Thunderhead - (talk) Congrajulations to Kat! 02:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Don't worry. Everyone always forgets that. Bawolff 02:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

On subject of modifications to the skin: Well, I didn't do it. Firefox 2 includes an inline spell checker. Whats on the toolbar? (I didn't notice anything new, so I'm curious as to what you are refering to). But thanks for the nice words. Bawolff 02:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

PD image


Image:1971 surrender.jpg may not be PD.  — Doldrums(talk) 07:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Oh sorry, I could of sworn the version I read said PD. Bawolff 20:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas, Bawolff/archives/2! I have really enjoyed working with you this year, and I am honestly looking forward to another year just like it. Wikinews is a great community, and I am really excited to be a part of it. Again, Merry Christmas! Thunderhead
Thanks. Merry Christmas to you too. Bawolff 20:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas!

File:Santa arrest.JPG
HO HO HO! These people got no presents from me this year.
FellowWikiNews is whishing thou a Merry very pegan Christmas , Seasons Greetings, Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, or whatever thou calls it, and
realised they had purposefully forgotten about thou. This user is completely thoughtless, doesn't care about Season's Greetings,
and therefore DEMANDS you have yourself a Merry Christmas... NOW!

Failure to comply will result in going to jail with Santa. (Note: Santa is Satan spelt backwards)!

Christmas Story (Children Friendly):

So kids, is Santa Democrat or Republican??!

Often depicted as an obese man wearing a tasteless red, ermine trimmed suit, Santa Claus is a self-employed Caucasian male who's been married to the same woman for several centuries. It appears likely that he is a churchgoer, insofar as he is a Catholic saint and a former bishop. It has to be assumed here that Claus was released from his vows, or else he would not have been married.

Frequent arguments have erupted over the political affiliation of Claus. Ten years ago, Dick Cheney inadvertently dealt a savage blow to the morale of the Republican Party when he misidentified the political affiliation of Santa Claus in his best-selling book, Parliament of Whores. "Santa Claus," he said, "is a Democrat." However it is perfectly obvious from his demographic profile alone that Santa is in fact a Republican.

This assessment is often rebutted by Democrats with Anne-McCaffery counter-analysis: Santa Claus has no children. High-achieving professionals without children trend Democratic. While the Clausian canon does not specifically address the issue of Santa's children, numerous extra-canonical sources suggest that Claus did, in fact, reproduce. Numerous Christmas TV movie specials alone support this point.

Santa is renowned for an aggressive adherence to a binary naughty/nice list, which suggests an impatience for nuanced moral positions that betrays his Republican preferences. Santa's mere willingness to define individuals along a naughty/nice axis demonstrates his indifference to the philosophical stance of, say, The New York Times. And note that no canonical or extra-canonical Clausian text indicates that Santa ever attended college or, God forbid, graduate school.


FellowWikiNews approves of this story.

I'm just going to say ummmm, to this. Merry Christmas Bawolff 21:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

P.S. What about Festivus (you seem to list every other holiday)? Bawolff 21:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

It's ok if you didn't think that it is funny. I got the story from w:Uncyclopedia, anyways. FellowWikiNews (W) 21:40, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
I think Santa is more likely a Liberal or an NDP. (he lives in Canada after all, despite whatever North Pole, Alaska may say.) (: Bawolff 23:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Do they even have polling stations in the North Pole? I think he would vote for Frosty the Snowman or mabie Mrs. Claus. lol. FellowWikiNews (W) 02:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Special ballot. Bawolff 04:22, 24 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas!


Merry Christmas! Wishing you all the best for the forthcoming year. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas to you too. Bawolff 21:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas!


Here's wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a happy New Year! Zeest(Talk)(Newpages) 03:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Merry Christmas to you too. Bawolff 04:20, 24 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Temporary adminship


There was no sysop seeming to be present at this moment, so, after having seen vandal's contributions and his former blocks, in order to stop the vandal IP, I requested help on IRC channel #wikimedia-stewards ( One of the steward, knowing me well and being sure that I would clean everything in a few minutes, has chosen to give me temporary rights of sysop to help, as it happens sometimes for other projects when it's needed, and he removed those rights when it was no more necessary. smiley Hégésippe | ±Θ± 04:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

okay, Just was wondering what was going on. Glad you were there. We've seen to have had a lot of vandals arround today and yesterday, and most of the regurals have not been here. Bawolff 05:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

P.S. you don't show up in that log when I put your name as the title. only when its set to all entries, I looked there and didn't see you. Really glad you were there. Thanks Bawolff 05:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Sometimes, when there are for example little waves (or "tsunamis"...) of spam or vandalism on "small" projects without sysops (and there are a lot), a steward can also give adminship for him/herself (after having created his own account, at this time where single user login is not ready), delete or revert what has to be and block who has to be, and then remove his/her temporary adminship. In another way, Anthere (steward and chair of Wikimedia Foundation) gave herself adminship on some French projects for working on the MediaWiki message about the current fundraising. The log of rights, on Meta-Wiki, is full of this kind of "technical" temporary adminships. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 14:22, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Kicked from IRC?


Why was I kicked from IRC? 05:37, 27 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

image uploads


Thanks for the tip. I didn't see the particular licenses in the drop-down, so I went without. It wasn't even clear to me whether I should label them as the right CC or as Grant of License. Of if they would even be allowed past breaking period. - KeithTyler 20:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Well honsetly our image use polcy is very lax and allows almost anything under GoL (Unlike the drop-down menu), so I personally think the most important part is to make sure they're labeled. user:BAwolff

I'd appreciate your feedback:


on my latest post on WN:AW.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)Reply



Please convince my local RSS reader (erm, Opera) as well as some of the online RSS readers [8]]. They all display correctly (it is just raw text...)

I don't think Firefox will for text/x-wiki. (checking) Bawolff 17:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
well look at that, it worked. I swear that didn't work six months ago. Bawolff 17:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Still not the best practice to send things with a wrong mime type though. Bawolff 17:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Half the web still sends out the wrong MIME type for half the stuff they send... terinjokes | Talk | Come visit the WikiBistro 18:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps, but this is really thew wrong mime type. Not even remotely close to the correct one. Bawolff 18:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews contest


Hi, I believe you owe me a Gmail invite for my friend. But I cant think of any friends who don't have Gmail (and would use it). And if they wanted a Gmail invite then I probably already gave them one because I have a Gmail account already. So I don't really need your prize of a Gmail invite, sorry. --Nzgabriel | Talk 19:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

yeah I thought so. Bawolff 08:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Main page experiments test redesigns etc


Talks for the feedback on the audio and for rmv the cats, completely forgot about that: obviously the test wasn't very succesful...--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

your welcome. Bawolff 08:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

CommonsTicker: Ticker Trouble



As you may have noticed, there have been some problems with CommonsTicker lately:

  • first, the toolserver was down. After it was back up, we had to wait for fresh database dumps.
  • also, many updates where failing because ticker pages where growing too large. Updates that went through half-way somtimes also caused entries to be posted multiple times, making the problem worse.
  • when I tried to improve performance, I introduced a bug that caused the ticker to post trash sometimes. I disabled the ticker again when I was told about it, and I have fixed all effected pages yesterday (I hope I didn't miss any).

To sort this out completely, I have to rewrite parts of CommonsTicker. For now, I will enable the ticker again for most wikis, but not for the ones that where having most trouble - namely de-wikipedia, en-wikinews, eo-wikipedia, es-wikipedia, fr-wikipedia, ja-wikipedia, ru-wikipedia, simple-wikipedia and zh-wikipedia. I'll have to investigate those more closely.

So please keep an eye on CommonsTicker in the next days - if there is any more trouble, please tell me, preferrably on meta:User_talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker.

Regards -- meta:User:Duesentrieb 13:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker -- CommonsTicker 13:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

new here


I´m new here , can I ask why you reverted my edit?

Responded on your talk. Bawolff 09:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)Reply



As you may know this wiki is being mismanaged and will have to be dismantled if it can't interwiki with the big sister. A new mainpage design hasn't been selected and most new members lose their resolve after one day, like me. Please let me know how we can go about sorting out the new main page and then we can talk about the sense of purpose. TownCrier 05:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sorry I'm a little tired, so I might be misunderstanding you, but we play fine with Wikipedia, wikibooks, wikispecies etc. We obey all wikimedia global policies (that I am aware of). Weather its mismanaged is in the eye of the beholder, but it certainly isn't getting dis-mantelled anytime soon.
Anyway, in regards to the main page, well their have been some changes, and that has resolved quite a few peoples problems with it. Currently there is nothing so seriouslly wrong with it that so a new version would have to be significantly better to take over. All the centralized efforts to replace it have failed so far, but there is some that are no longer active but say what is needed in a main page. Bawolff 06:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

P.S. Have you considered going on Wikinews chat. its a lot easier then talking on talk pages. (Avalible at web interface or #en.wikinews on on your favourite w:IRC client.

I would use the wikinews chat to generate interest but i don't want to do that. as it seems to me, less then 5% of members who opened accounts actually participate here because of the right with WP current. What is worse is that the readership level is much less than the editorial level in comparison to WP. This is what i meant with the lack of interwiki, they can't coexist, wikinews either has to be a template within WP, or WP current has to #R to WN. Its really very simple and this proposal was talked about with no consensus to its regard. I don't want to start a conversation in public talk when i don't know what response i will get, i want to start a lobby to bring to meta wiki to bring up these issues. about the main-page its not good, especially with the font choice for the headlines. the MPs of all WMF wikis need to look like the MPs of all the sister wikis, period. i think WN has a great future if it sorts out the interwiki issue as i put it above. Are you interested in joining the lobby? Sleep well. TownCrier 06:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Okay, so you want all the wikimedia wiki's to be in one wiki, (like Uncyclopedia: and friends), or at least merge Wikipedia's current events. Well I disagree with you on quite a few points there. We are doing well in my opinion. Ever see Wikipedia in its early days? it was not anywhere near where it is now. We are currently just bit over two years old. We are doing well. If only 5% of people registering accounts here edit, you should see the number of accounts at wikipedia versus edits. As for chat, I don't mean to try and get support for your position (especially considering that this time of day only me and Doldrums are online) I just find it easier to understand what other people mean in an instant chat as oposed to a talk page chat. Happy editing. Bawolff 06:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

P.S. heres a previous discussion page, that might have some ideas on it if you're intreasted. Wikinews:Main Page redesign. Bawolff 23:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

newsletter idea


Hi, (I hope you don't mind this general message, I'm just randomly contacting people from my talk page)

I've had an idea after reading User:Kinnerc/WhereToWikinews? that might make people more aware of what's currently going on on this site, what discussions are being held, where help is needed etc. I've designed a little signpost-like box that I would like to introduce as a newsletter to post on user talk pages. Of course, the majority is copied from the Newsroom, which I think people don't visit often enough. Oh yeah, and the title should probably change :-D

I would appreciate some feedback on the idea, and also I'm interested to know if you would subscribe to such a newsletter. Please go to User_talk:Stevenfruitsmaak/Goings-on.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

The Fruitsmaak Goings-on Selection


Wikinews community

Wikipedia news - Wikimedia news

edit this

Collaboration requests


Post new request

Flagged discussions


Dan100 history


Dan made close to 20 edits on January 5. Now his edit history only shows three. What's up with that? -Edbrown05 03:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I don't know what your talking about. he has 29 by my count on his contrib page . Bawolff :-)(-: 04:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Please Bawollf link to Dan100's history page. I know sometimes my route to something is rendered differently than anothers. -Edbrown05 04:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Sometimes that happens to me too. :D .See messedRockers talk page (I have problems spelling that word, and I don't want to look it up again). Bawolff :-)(-: 04:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
yes. try special:contributions/Dan100. Bawolff :-)(-: 04:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Re: UFOs


"However I just want to make sure I am correct in the assumption its not ready to publish." Very. we don't know how old the reported statements are. all we have is "some were made in recent moonths", so not sure this is news. plus i've raised npov concerns.  — Doldrums(talk) 06:51, 12 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Okay, just wanted to make sure. Bawolff :-)(-: 07:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Oh look I'm getting popular. 3 (at least) vandilizations of my page in about a week (And its the first three times too). Intreasting. Bawolff :-)(-: 07:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well what do u expect, when you go against the vatican and ETs? :) btw, ur arbcom comment hasn't been signed.  — Doldrums(talk) 07:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well that was the mumfum guy who did it last (presumably because I blocked him) and the guy before had no apparent reason that I can think of. oh well shows that we're growing as a site (:thanks for reminding me to sign. Bawolff :-)(-: 07:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)Reply



Hi, I can't see the comments tabs at the moment, if they are there that is. --Nzgabriel | Talk 05:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Try doing a hard refresh (proablly ctrl+R depending on which browser you use) (I made a screw up with the JS, that sort of made everything in mediawiki:monobook.js stop working. (RSS, no main page title, comments alt stylesheets etc for a short period of time.[which makes me feel really stupid. for some reason when I edited it, it randomlly deleted some lines] ) you may still have it in your cache of your browser. user:Bawolff


dear Bawolff

this is not a simple copyright violation. I work at a newspaper and am perfectly capable of knowing about plagurism. Our newspaper pays the AAP (and reuters for that matter) to supply us with stories. these stories have no copyright if we have paid for them. we publish dozens of these stories everyday. I do have premission. Everyone at my newspaper does


Symode09 23:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

The Goings-on Selection


Welcome to the first edition of this fortnightly Community Newsletter! If you have comments, please voice them. If you no longer wish to receive this newsletter, you can unsubscribe. If you have news for the next edition, please submit it here.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews community

Wikipedia news - Wikimedia news

edit this

Collaboration requests


Flagged discussions


Open polls


Please vote in open polls! Add {{poll}} to a page to have it listed here.

RE: Infoboxes


No problem at all! You mean the Template:Weather news infobox? Sure! Thunderhead - (talk) Congrajulations to Kat! 06:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

okay, good. Bawolff :-)(-: 23:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Your Wiki Check

Thunderhead                                                        January 16, 2007
123 Wikinews Ave.
Wikiwiki, WN 94541

PAY TO THE ORDER OF '''Bawolff'''                                  $1,000.00

IN THE AMOUNT OF '''One thousand dollars and 00/00 cents'''

Memo: '''©opyVio'''                           X ~~~~

Thunderhead - (talk) Congrajulations to Kat! 09:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I love recieving $1000 checks! However, I'm not really sure what this is for... Bawolff :-)(-: 23:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Remember the Copyright violation payment I owed FWN? I gave him $1,000 for the infrigement, and I'm basically bribing you... Thunderhead - (talk) Congrajulations to Kat! 23:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I have spoken to my company lawyers and they essentially said that it was alright to publish stories as long as the company is paying a subscription however, to play it safe and to comply with some other overseas laws, the story should still be credited to the origional Journalist


Symode09 00:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

You are aware that by publishing it here, you are agreeing to let eny other website/newspaper/whoever to re-publish, and do whatever the crap they want with it, without paying for it? (just want to make sure) Bawolff :-)(-: 01:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

No seriously, I think we should get over the whole copyright thing, it is two difficult to be involved in this debate everythime I insert a story so, I shall just write it, it shouldn't be to hard

thanks anyway, it is mainly my fault I should have just given up because it is not worth it

Let's mov eon and focus on improving wikinews

thanks Symode09 06:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Philippines article


hi, can u take a look at Upcoming elections in the Philippines may be violent? needs some pov work i think, and have done my share of unpublishing and commenting (not actually editing, though:( ). would like to see some more views, thanks — Doldrums(talk) 07:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Prof shot in front of students and Philippine partylists announce nominees for upcoming elections are copied from a source which has a "Permission is granted to reprint or redistribute the articles, provided the author/s and Bulatlat are properly credited and notified.". i don't think the notif. requirement is compatible with our license. i sent an e-mail requesting permission and haven't got a reply yet. any ideas on what to do?  — Doldrums(talk) 09:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
hmmm, I geuss we'll have to remove the articles from wikinews, if they don't respond. I'm fairly certain that you're correct in saying that their license is incompatible because of notification. Bawolff 21:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Reply



Oops, I just clicked on edit section and deleted the section. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 11:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Don't worry, I did a similiar thing too, a bit ago. Bawolff 19:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I'm not making wrong informations


Hi Bawollf i see that you reverted my edits to the verison of the wrong ones and you could just use your and you could do good edits and the five edits. —Daisy's Gamer 00:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Series of earthquakes hit Korea, Indonesia, Turkey and Norway


In the page there only times on the clock on wiki means five and zero because it has the hand on the time line. —Daisy's Gamer 00:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Reply



I have replied to the message you left me on my talk page on my talk page here.



Yes I took it. I work in Russell Square House (you can look it up on a map), my Camera is a Canon Powershot A300. If you would like proof that I work there, please email me using the "email this user" form. - w:en:User:Francis Tyers

wikipedia images


Are not always okay here. We have different policies then they do (Specificly, If the image is fiar use and from a news organization or blog, it is not okay, and everything needs to have a url on it if its from an online source). Bawolff 01:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I know :) I think you're talking about - It's public domain as specified in its page... Towsonu2003 01:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
yes, And that one is okay, I just wanted to make sure you knew that as a general rule, that is not always the case. Bawolff 01:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
On a similiar note, Image:Masum.gif met speedy deletion criteria. Bawolff 02:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
I don't know / remember what that is. Towsonu2003 04:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
It was an image from an online newspaper. Bawolff 04:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
looks like some cops, poking at some dead guy on a bench or something like that. Bawolff 04:34, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Oh yes, that should be the pic for the pic for Turkish homeless man burns to death after being neglected -it was a breaking news item, than I just forgot about the pic... Towsonu2003 06:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well we're on the subject of images, just to confirm, you took Image:Linux sreenshot.jpg yourself? (and if so, what theme was it using (specioficly a free or not free one)? and are there any proprity programs runing)? Bawolff 00:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
You're strict, aren't you :) No, it came either from commons.wikimedi or wikipedia... don't remember... keep in mind that
This is a screen shot. It is believed that screen shots may be exhibited on Wikimedia projects under the fair use provision of United States copyright law. Use of the screen shot here does not imply endorsement of the software by the Wikimedia Foundation, nor does it imply endorsement of the Wikimedia Foundation by the software authors.
thanks Towsonu2003 00:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
okay found it (w:Image:Linux sreenshot.jpg) . thanks. Bawolff 00:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
wow good work :) I looked for it myself and couldn't find... Towsonu2003 00:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
lol. Bawolff 00:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Re: Burlington map


I copyied the source info from Wikipedia. I guess they will have to change it to Crown copyright too. FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 01:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

yes, sometimes wikipedia lies. But the important thing is that its all sorted out (On wikinews, I can't make heads or tails about what your supposed to do with that on wikipedia). Bawolff 01:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Image HrantDink asassin


I have left a comment on the talk page here and would appriciate your help. Cheers --Markie 15:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply



i don't think UFOs belong as a Space topic, at best, this is partly true(meteorites) or disputed, at worst, simply appears to lend legitimacy to a what is labelled as a Pseudoscience topic on WP.  — Doldrums(talk) 20:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Well its (potentially crazy) people believing aliens are coming from space. It probably isn't true, but its directly linked with space. where else would you put it? Bawolff 20:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
sorry for the late response. i would do the following - use cat:UFO whenever there's a claim. add cat:Space to article if there's a suggestion/claim that the event is a astronomical one, use cat:wacky if it seems so. i would make subcat UFOs under Science/Tech - whatever the explanation for the event - it is going to be a natural or manmade event; rather than make it a subcat of Space - that wld be claiming that the explanation is of extraterrestrial origin. sounds good?  — Doldrums(talk) 04:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
ok, sounds good. Bawolff 08:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

template specialPublish


I see you are working ahead of the curve for sorting MainPage news stories from Portal pages. I am a bit of a stickler for naming conventions. I also believe that the 'Comment' tab suffered for a lack of a good naming convention. With certainly, some news stories will not make to the MainPage. The tag name to make that so must be suitable. -Edbrown05 09:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I am a little tired right now, so if I misinterpret something you say, please tell me. I'm assuming you mean specialPublish is a crappy name for the tag, which it is, but currently its not really used (as we're small enough, that every story needs to count), but if it is ever is, it should probably be renamed (if you feel like it, you can rename it now, just make sure to make everything in portal:quaker work). As far as the comment tab thing goes, that was one of the main issues with it, but its very hard to express the difference between discuss and comment (and add comment) in less then a sentence. Bawolff 09:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Smiling, and thinking too, that's all I had to say right now. -Edbrown05 09:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Sort of thinking Category:PortalNews is accurate, fair, and neutral. -Edbrown05 08:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
That sounds good, or maybe something like category:Local publish (to go along with category:Local only) maybe. Bawolff 21:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Local only news


Note the correct category for local news is category:Local only (ussually acompined with something like template:specialPublish). However I disagree with Discriminatory job ad by Central Bank of Turkey asks for men only being considered local only. I think, especially at this stage in wikinews development, that it is intreasting enough for a global audience. Bawolff 06:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure how to go about this. I added this "local" tag to it because of the discussions on having single non-english sources... so I used that local tag to show that that news item was not subject to the single source non-english issue... I don't want it to be seen as "local only, don't read it!". Rather I wanted to convey the message of "this is local, I can't find english source"... Here's the discussion I have been dealing with about foreign sources. Towsonu2003 09:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
hmm, somehow I don't think that will solve the underlying problem though (If its not english, no one else canread it, so they can't verify it). Bawolff 09:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Help?? Yes!


I was trying to make it work with an optional second parameter, but it didn't seem to work so I had to settle for a "name=" parameter. Could you make it work with just {{{2}}}? It should work I think, maybe I just didn't look hard enough... anyway works now too and is explained. I ocasionally try to show some template skills but usually reach my limits pretty fast :-D
--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

How's it look now (You need to purge the cache ( ) to make the template update if its included on its own page. Bawolff 21:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Ah yes... I refreshed but of course I should've purged... thank God for the computer-gifted! Thanks.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
your welcome, glad I could help. Bawolff 21:40, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Re:Santa image


I found the source but I'm not sure about the copyright :( Please help... FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 17:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

sure, just I can't look at it today (just checking my messages right now, don't really have time to do anything at the moment). Bawolff 21:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Reply



Hey, thanks for fixing these mistakes and leave-outs i've been making. It's 3:05 in the morning here, and honestly, my mind is cloudy. Haven't been getting much sleep latley with school and all. I'll try to be more aware in the future, and attempt to change my edit / sleep habits :) Thunderhead - (talk) 08:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

your welcome. Bawolff 21:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Image:Olympic rings.png


I honestly don't remember. Replace as desired. Ral315 (talk) 03:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

okay, thanks. Bawolff 08:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply



Please help me, O' Lord computer-gifted Bawolff. I was removing the deleted firefox image off User:RossKoepke's user page but I got a notice saying:

Spam protection filter
From Wikinews, the free news source you can write!
Jump to: navigation, search
The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to an external site. 
The following text is what triggered our spam filter:
Return to Main Page.

I removed the links so I could remove the image but now it won't let me re-add the links. What should I do? FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 02:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

You can't reinsert it linked (without somehow getting it off the meta:spam blacklist), however you can replace it with ross__dot__servebeer__dot__com or something (if you omit the http:// it might work). Bawolff 04:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply



ah! so that was the problem.  — Doldrums(talk) 07:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

btw, what do u think of the Shorts idea?  — Doldrums(talk) 07:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

RE: Bulladelah photo


Hey, I've added the email. Sam doesnt want his address published though. Cheers - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews RSS Feed


Thanks for your kind words about my rss feed. I was just getting to much dos on my rss and had to shut it down. Once I pulled the feed I was getting this every day.

Analysed requests from Thu-01-Feb-2007 00:00 to Fri-02-Feb-2007 00:47 (1.0 days). Total failed requests: 343,181

Happy editing to you as well Inic 05:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Appointment to Wikinews Arbitration Committee


To whom it may concern.

Following the elections of January 2007, the Wikinews Arbitration Committee Appointment Committee (WNARBCOMAPCO) hereby appoints you, Ma'am or Sir, to a seat on the Arbitration Committee (ARBCOM) for a term ending on January 31, 2008. The WNARBCOMAPCO congratulates you on your election to this esteemed committee and wishes you the best of luck for your tenure.

Yours sincerely,

--+Deprifry+ 03:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Head of the Wikinews Arbitration Committee Appointment Committee Board of Managing Directors (HOTWNARBCOMAPCOBOMD)

yipee, another year of being on the cabal, err, I mean arbcom. TINC! Bawolff 03:32, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
On a serious note. I wanted to say thank you for everyone who voted for me. I hope to continue to serve everyone well as an arbitrator. Bawolff 03:32, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
You deserved it! FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 03:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
thank you. Bawolff 03:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply



How long ago was this poll? Mabye time for a new one... Club2007 00:34, 4 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

  • Okay, I won't argue. I looked at the poll and there were only about 60 votes. Time for a re-vote?



Yeah sorry about that. To be honest i didn't check the source on 'peida so it's my fault and yes it should have been deleted. Thanks--Markie 12:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC) Also related to this i would like to upload from 'pedia but does "SkySport" count as a competing news source??--Markie 13:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I don't think that image would be allowed. That tv station does news too, and its proably from their news broadcast. 21:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)



No problem, sorry about the confusion. I think I might also have found an image on Commons that could have superseeded (sp?) that. Can't remember the file name, though. --Thunderhead - (talk) 15:09, 4 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I highly doubt that, as images like that are not really allowed on commons. Bawolff 21:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Soccer results/fixtures moderator



I saw you are in need of moderator for soccer results/fixtures section. I could provide you with (free) accurate XML feeds with results/fixtures for over 600 soccer competitions world wide.

Please contact me if you are interested:

I'm currently discussing this with someone. Bawolff 21:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hi Bawolff, have you already decided about this one? As said, we could embed our results/fixtures data for over 600 leagues inside Wikipedia.

"Shrinking Cities" Image


Thanks. --Elatanatari 19:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Do you know how to get the article on the Culture & Entertainment list of the North America Portal?

It is there currently. Usually you just add the two categories (category:North America, and Category:Culture and entertainment). Bawolff 23:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again.--Elatanatari 16:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Removal of title tag


Thanks for the title tag tip... it worked! :-) --user:jgladding

your welcome, glad I could help. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask (just not on w:Talk:Main Page as that's actually the wrong place) Bawolff 06:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
yeah, I figured as much, but I'm still learning Witiquette... it's so hard to follow all the "rules" around here. ;-)
yes, well around here (wikinews) its a lot simpler. On wikipedia its complex due to the extreme amount of people there. they have to have lots of rules, or stuff would become over-run. Bawolff 08:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

photos (animation) thingy


Good job with the photographer thingy for Annie awards. Bawolff 22:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Any sort of pre-planned event in a major metro area, I'm willing to try and get professional photographers to come out to it. I didn't expect many people would want to take pictures of people that are only famous within such a narrow community, but it's amazing how much interest that I got, just through a single Craigslist posting. -- Zanimum 16:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
I just think that it is really cool. Bawolff 03:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

fur story


How does it qualify as an interview? Bawolff 03:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

See this revision - Zanimum was the person who decided to add that to the article. I'm not a regular at Wikinews, so I don't know what qualifies as an interview. It wasn't exactly one-on-one, but there were more board members than people attending the meeting. GreenReaper 04:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well that's slightly pushing it, but I think its okay. Bawolff 04:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
p.s. do you want me to revert the crap on this page? Bawolff 03:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
It is history. Let it remain. :-) GreenReaper 04:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

GFDL images


can't be used, i take it. place a note to that effect on WN:IUP?  — Doldrums(talk) 07:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

WN:IUP is not reflective of current practices. The correct answer is they sort of can be used — Category:GFDL images. They should (in ideal world) be at commons. However they are allowed here because people got pissed at commons a while back, and its a slippery slope from there. Also by the same logic, we'd have to remove all CC-bY, PD CC-BY-SA, and other free images as well (which we should do eventually). Bawolff 07:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
See also Wikinews talk:Image use policy. Actually I just made a post to commons-l, discussing how wikinews and commons have sort of drifted apart (IMHO) [10] Bawolff 07:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
hmmm...i still haven't figured out the answer to the question i has in mind - whether i can use Image:Al aqsa moschee 2.jpg (GFDL licensed on Commons) in the Al Aqsa mosque article, there does exist a CC alternative - Image:Al_Aksa_Mosque,_Mount_of_Olives.jpg.  — Doldrums(talk) 07:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Oh, yes you could use it. We can use a lot of variations in image licenses, we just can't use GFDL text in the article. Anything on Commons we can use (unless it has a speedy delete template on it, then it ight not be okay) Bawolff 08:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
thanks, will do. (note to self: ask the right question to get the right answer.)  — Doldrums(talk) 08:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply



If you look at the history of these pages i didnt actually add the licenses as i admit they confuse the hell out of me but Doldrums added the licensing info for me. I don't add licensing ifo because im never sure which it is so i leave it to others such as Doldrums. Any chance of a simple guide to which one to use. Also please feel free to change the licensing to the right one as i have no idea about them.

Thanks--Markie 10:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Reply



No need. I should be thanking you for spuring me to figure out how that worked. Thanks--Elatanatari 02:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

By the way, if you want a better edit counter, try (gives you a bit extra info, for example here's mine) (slightly outdated (about a month) for the english wikipedia, everything else is about a day and a half behind). Bawolff 03:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Re: Missourced images


Image:Hospitality Club - Brussels 2004 meeting.JPG and Image:Hospitality Club - Monnai camp 2005.jpg were both taken from [11] (which unfortunately is now answering 403) along with the licence text that I put under the photos. The authors (which I both know personally) have given their consent that the photos be used in the context of a news story but retain copyrights. From there on you know the policies better than I and it's up to you whether you keep or delete them. -- 04:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC) (w:User:Valmi)Reply

Thankyou for responding. Bawolff 04:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

images, images


are the images here and here fair game? the copyright statement is a restricted one.  — Doldrums(talk) 11:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

found (and used) from here instead: [12].  — Doldrums(talk) 12:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
They're (all of them) are probably okay as fair use - publicity (but free-er images are preferred if available). Try clicking on the validate xhtml link at the bottom of the first site you linked. Bawolff 04:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, sorry about that, wrong pic.--Elatanatari 19:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

renaming ok?


is this way out of line:

original headline aws considered pov.  — Doldrums(talk) 06:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Umm, if its in quote marks I think it'd be okay. I'm not really sure though. Bawolff 06:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)Reply