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 ~The bellman | Smile  00:22, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vandal

Hi! Good work reverting that vandalism today.... - Borofkin 23:46, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thanks. Bawolff 23:50, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image caption

Seems to work for me... "fetal errors"? <grin> - Amgine/^talk 29 June 2005 05:36 (UTC)

I think i need to add "/usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/EditPage.php" to obituraies (: Bawolff 29 June 2005 05:40 (UTC)

Thank you...

Thank you for adding the transclusion to [[Category:Protected]]. I thought about doing that, but I was sidtracked. --Chiacomo (talk) 01:24, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Your welcome. Glad someone noticed. Bawolff 01:28, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the cup of tea :) I really appreciate it :) Jason Safoutin 15:16, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:58, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

hey thanks for the heads up on the userbox war. --Zachjones4 21:08, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

New Main Page design proposal

I invite you and others to see Main Page Talk, where I have proposed a new Main Page for Wikinews. Best wishes, NGerda 01:50, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Wendy's infobox

Hi ya'! This infobox was the very first to be developed here at Wikinews. Kinda rough, huh? :0! Best regards. -Edbrown05 23:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

yeah. Bawolff 23:02, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for getting the box and cats up... I'm gonna get to the story text in a bit (it's rough yet I know) -Edbrown05 23:06, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Cats

Yes you can add google and anything like it - the only condition is that it should be useful, practical and does not overlap with other existing categories. Redundant catagories will be removed. -> CGorman (Talk) 11:54, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Astronomy Category

Thanks for the reorganization. I was just trying to offer constructive criticism and to define that there can be a difference between the two categories. Recent news stories such as the large Kuiper objects pushing the limits of the definition of a planet would clearly be considered Astronomy articles, and have some real general interest as well. I'm just trying to give Astronomers their due. Again, thanks for the work. --Robert Horning 23:36, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

no problem Bawolff 23:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Google Homepage

Yes, it is an RSS parser. I'm not sure of the specifics of it, but it seems to parse RSS 1.0 and 2.0 feeds (haven't tried Atom yet). --Mrmiscellanious 02:09, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Adminship

I was wondering if you'd be opposed to my nominating you for adminship? - Amgine / ^talk 22:30, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

not at all. Bawolff 22:48, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

<grin> I hoped not. You're now nominated, and you will need to accept the nomination there (just say you accept and sign it.) Hope others share my opinions about your value to the site! - Amgine / ^talk 23:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you again. Bawolff 23:11, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for nominating the Iraq ballots story! --Wolfrider 23:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC) No problem. I really enjoyed reading that story. Bawolff (- 23:02, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Template:W

Template:W is a shortcut for links to Wikipedia. Instead of having to type both items, users can use the template to link to WP and only type the item once. (For example, United States of America) --Mrmiscellanious 23:29, 19 October 2005 (UTC) respomdes on user page.Bawolff (- 21:55, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Spanish-language Wikinews Print edition

Hello. I downloaded perfectly the three PDF files of the Spanish Wikinews print version. Maybe you've having a problem with your Acrobat. Try reinstalling it or updating it if needed. Thanks for your comments. Cheers! Julián Ortega 14:52, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Wal-Mart Article

Either fix the article to you're liking or make some suggestions. I edited the article substantially to make it neutral. You can't just censor articles.

I'll cite the Wal-Mart source as well.

65.190.139.230 22:59, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm stuggling to keep cool. The reason you suspect that there is copyright infringement is because Wal-Mart Watch, and a number of other groups, sent out the information in a PRESS release. Press releases are not copywritten.

65.190.139.230 23:06, 22 October 2005 (UTC) responded on your user page Bawolff (- 23:27, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congrats — the community has voted and you're now a Wikinews Administrator. Thanks for volunteering for this thankless job of cleaning up after vandals and processing deletion requests. Have fun! :-) -- IlyaHaykinson 07:48, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Ditto; congratulations. Neutralizer 11:56, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Bawolff (- 23:05, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Late congrats! -> CGorman (Talk) 17:47, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Re; Student demonstration article

Since you had previously edited the article/talk; I thought you may wish to get involved on the talk page after seeing what happened to the article within a 5 minute period. [1] [2] [3]. Neutralizer 11:55, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Hope you will help me if this happens

An anon put this on my talk page today; "== Warning == theres a plot to perman. ban you. see: [[4]]"

In the meantime I have decided to take a wiki-break from editing (pls. see my talk) Neutralizer 21:20, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks Bawolff! I feel guilty as I've been quite inactive lately! I'm trying my best to contribute; but i'm in the middle of quite a lot at the moment... -> CGorman (Talk) 17:49, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

your welcome. Bawolff (- 19:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Pre-war intelligence category and WN:DR

I knew there was a person who would ask! Anyways, the changing of the category is a pretty subtantial change, so I want the fact the name has been changed in a reletively-public area. You know, so people aren't shocked when they find their favorite category has gone away. --MESSEDROCKER (talk) 22:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Ok, sounds like a good idea. Bawolff (- 22:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

News categories vs encyclopedia categories

I see you're doing a lot of category work. Have you considered whether these are news-oriented categories as opposed to encyclopeida categories? Wikinews is not an encyclopedia, and many of the categories which are being created (not necessarily by yourself) are not NPOV. - Amgine / ^talk 23:54, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry If i'm adding categories to pages wich are not news categories, I'm just adding categories that were already there. Which categories do you specificly mean? the only when I can think of is really Category:Disease, which is livin' on the edge.Bawolff (- 23:59, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

<nod> That one caught my eye, but items like the Plame category/Pre-war intelligence/whatever the current name is and the Human Rights category are clearly being used in a POV manner, and are nearly useless as a news category as well. If I were to look I'm sure I'd see a large number of non-news categories. - Amgine / ^talk 00:02, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Pre war intel's being taken care of (WN:DR), however Human rights and some other categories that look useless at first site are very useful on various infoboxes and would brake DPL's If they wern't there. Bawolff (- 00:07, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Some of the categories were designed to create POV infoboxes, such as the Human Rights one. Some of the categories are only used by people pushing a POV because they are sub-sub-categories or further down the chain. Earlier discussions about categories continually found that, excluding regional categories, top and first level categories are the only ones used with any consistency, and usually only top. - Amgine / ^talk 00:18, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Unnecessary? I never said it was unnecessary. I said it was POV, and is causing fights in the community. For these reasons it is necessary that it be removed, IMO. - Amgine / ^talk 00:57, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I was refering to Mr.M's comment not yours in regards to it being unnessary. Bawolff (- 15:38, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks re; infobox

Thanks for the kind words and your help with the infobox. It has been a new thing for me; and quite enjoyable. Neutralizer 01:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Well I place my thanks here too as that was exactly what I tried! --Ameer™ 19:45, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

np

just weird trivia I've picked up along the way. - Amgine / ^talk 23:46, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: File:Google Print.gif

Yes, feel free to delete it. I uploaded it by accident. Thanks. Cllewr 01:06, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!

New here, but active on Wikipedia for almost a year. I can see I've got a few things to learn about writing news articles here, but I'm learning. On that note, your welcoming remarks and links were very useful. --Skyring 07:20, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad you apreciated it. Bawolff (- 22:05, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Passed-dr template

Good question. I made the link to the archive external-link style so that people will simply copy and paste the link from their browser. Simply a convenience thing. --MESSEDROCKER (talk) 22:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

ok. Bawolff (- 22:56, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

re: welcome

you are more than welcome. ~The bellman | Smile 04:27, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Cartoon

Glad you got a laugh! :) Cartooning is a recent interest of mine. Sometimes the mood strikes, and then the drawing comes hard to me, as I am certainly no pro... But if I doodle another that is half-way decent at least in its thought, i'll probably upload it. -Edbrown05 02:50, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Moz 1.7

Yuckies. The justification is full width, and has the nasty over-spacing of most browser-based text justification. - Amgine 04:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Okay, it's a bit of an odd thing. I don't get any columns (that is, only the normal layout), but the long article with the scroll bar(s, for me) is cool! - Amgine (not logged in, second browser ff 1.0.7)

Its only goining to work with 1.5. I think. which should be coming out in the next week I think. Bawolff (- 05:38, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Just downloaded the rc. - Amgine 05:41, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

w00t! yes, that looks *very* nice in 1.5. <wonders if the new IE will have this feature> - Amgine  05:49, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

doubtful that IE will, but we can dream about it.Bawolff (- 05:51, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

What's interesting is it *may* work just fine with other browsers. It showed up as just normal layout in Moz, plus a scroll box for the long tail article. We should test, because if so the columns could be used without harm, and it makes a nice newsy layout for people who *can* see it. - Amgine 05:56, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

I tried in MSIE and it looked totally normal. not even scroll bars apeared. checking in opera. Bawolff (- 06:01, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

In Safari it has the vertical scroll, but no horizontal scroll, and was clipping about 2% of the visible width. - Amgine 06:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

In opera it doesn't do the scroll bar, and clips most of the article :( . Probaly would work fine if there was no height style, but thats what makes it go horizontal.

Maybe there is some way to make a Mozilla only style-sheet. If you look in the source of Wikinews theres tons of IE only stylesheet fixes (at least in Monobook), Maybe we could do the same with Moz(FX). Or maybe some Java-script to hide it from browsers that cut-it off( I know nothing about Javascript so I don't know if thats possible).Bawolff (- 22:45, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Other problem is Images. They don't do well in the columns as far as I can tell. see User talk:Bawolff/Sandbox/Column-test. Bawolff (- 22:45, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Baha'i Portal

Thanks for advice & support at the watercooler Bawolff - I'v corrected the link. Could you start by setting up the portal for me? That would be a great help - I'm still a wikinewbie so it would take me a while. I like the way the Quaker one has been set up. I think NPOV would be ok - the items in BahaiMonitor are quite factually based, not pushing the BF or anything. However, they would only really be of interest to Bahais and those with a close interest in Bahai - would this be a problem? I'm thinking of stories like "Tunisian Muslim says ask forgiveness from Baha'is". This is of interest to Baha'is but a Jewish person might report the same story with a headline "Tunisian Muslim says ask forgiveness from Jews" AndrewRT 14:13, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for setting up the Portal Bawolff and also sorting out the floating text problem! Really appreciate it! AndrewRT 23:55, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

No problem. glad i could help. Bawolff (- 00:01, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

What is wrong with your sig

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_fix_your_signature --Cspurrier 00:24, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Image location

Hi there!

The Greenspan image I'd put up came from Wikipedia, that's where I usually look to "borrow" them from. I'm not 100% sure on what goes on Commons and have had stuff deleted from there. Brian McNeil / ^talk 10:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

New sources for wikinews?

Sources - cats food & health (see)
Almost looks like "Cats food & health" is a journal! --JWSchmidt 20:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Copyright

Hi there. I've reverted your changes because it screw up formatting both at me, Brianmc and presumably quite a few other people and I was too stupid to fix it. Maybe you could take another look. --Deprifry|+T+ 10:49, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the trophy!

--MESSEDROCKER (talk) 01:28, 27 November 2005 (UTC) no problem. Bawolff (- 01:30, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Template

[Moved from user page]
ok; what i need is a blank page to keep this stuff in? Neutralizer 02:18, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

ok ,Chiacomo set up a special page for me so I will get rid of that template I made. Thanks for the heads up. Neutralizer 02:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Template:iff

Just a handy tool :) I've been experiment with making a filtered list of headlines. See User:Zocky/News digest for results. Zocky 22:31, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Religion

No, I'm afraid I still feel it is a biased name, and cannot be made otherwise.

I would suggest you create a Portal:Spirituality, which at least is more inclusive and to me represents news about spirituality rather than news which may have an element of religion (for example, any article about the violence in Kosovo should belong to a religion category as it is directly related, while it would not necessarily belong to the category spirituality.) - Amgine | ^talk 00:04, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Main page design?

I'm confused by your post to my talk page. I probably don't mind, but what is it that I don't mind? Theshibboleth 07:41, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

RE: FBI before 911

Bawolff, the article was an editorial. It is my policy, that is in accordiance with the NPOV policy, that they are deleted on sight. As the user should have viewed the style guide, linked to is the NPOV policy, I do not feel they need an explanation, but am welcome to give them one if they request. --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 16:48, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the welcome! I will try to make some good contributions. Mushroom 01:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC) No problem. Glad to see your enthusastic. Bawolff (- 02:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello

Thanks for the Welcome. I've registered at Wikinews when it opened but I don't contribute much here. sq stands for shqip which is Albanian, and yes I can communicate in English. Dori 03:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Request on WN:A

As requested, I will now state my reasoning for not participating in the mediation process between myself and Neutralizer (originally posted to WN:A at 17:11 UTC on 10 December 2005, striked-out due to user request):

Quote

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I do not like to bicker about other users. I feel all contributors here deserve more respect than to see two of their fellow contributors accusing each other of being 'mean' or 'unfair'. If there was a better solution to the problem, then it should have presented itself. However, I do not agree with the current mediation process. Preventing further disputes doesn't mean bringing up 'points' for a 'neutral party' to decide which one has a better point, it means working with the two users to settle their dispute. And having a long-run war with someone and letting only one person decide what should be done isn't fair to the rest of the community. So, if there were suggestions by all users of the community to solve the dispute, it would be welcomed by this party. But I do not like having a neutral party taking any sides. There should be more than one opinion on the outcome.

Cheers. --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 16:30, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Logos

I'm just replying to the message you left on my talk page regarding the logos I uploaded. Thanks for your comments. Sawran 18:01, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I see you're online from the RC page. Thanks for your support before on Template:Xt. Care to support me again? I have posted a link to WN:NOT and now I worry. :) Unforgettableid 05:28, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

RE: unblock user:67.165.217.42

Yes, the user has been assigned a static IP from Comcast, which only updates consumer IP's on an average of 2 years. For this, I have only blocked the user for the period of one year, which is enough to stop the disruption he is trying to cause. --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 11:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Stanley Williams mugshot.jpg

Yeah, I realized that after uploading it. I tried to get an admin on the IRC channel to delete it, but apparently nobody did. Feel free to delete it. It is on commons under a different name, but since nobody's using it, I suppose there's no need to find it. Ral315 16:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: WN:A Question

Bawolff,

My visions for a more effective dispute process would be most users, rather than just one, act as a mediator between a dispute. There would be no "points" to make for either candidate, as their actions speak for themselves. Users could ask for explanation from users, but are not obligated to. I realize this would require many users of the community to be present, so it'd be best to only use it in extreme cases. Certainly when users wish to list someone for de-admin'ing vote after vote, there's a dispute. But in my eyes, one person to mediate isn't enough. Users should submit their suggestions, and those in the dispute should do their best to meet that suggestion (if it is reasonable to achieve). But, I don't see how bickering about someone's every single edit is going to help any dispute. Last I heard, Neutralizer and Amgine still aren't on best speaking grounds, which is proof for me that the existing dispute resolution is not as strong as it needs to be.

The ArbCom is an issue of itself. I don't like having people up on something similar to a 'trial' for editing a wiki - especially a news wiki. If they break the rules, they should plainly be warned, then blocked. In my eyes, the ArbCom also isn't here to solve disputes, it's here to take a side of a user or users who are mad at another user. We should be acting more civilly than that. The community should have a say in what disputes are active, however I am not seeing much done by anyone to prevent or even tame disputes with the current methods.

--MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 16:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

iff

All Iff can do is check if the first argument is the same as one of the other unnamed arguments and do different things based on the result.

I don't think there is currently a way to test for existence of a page in wikisyntax. It could conceivably be done with some serious abuse of includeonly tags and css, but it would be really ugly and non-flexible. You may want to ask a developer for an extension that could do that. Zocky 08:30, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Bawolff (- 08:33, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Policy proposal Re; Time limit for Administrators

hi,; hope you can support this I just put this on the watercooler policy section

This is an urgent issue that must be addressed now,imo, because an integral condition for exercising administrative authority here on wikinews is stipulated to be "You are trusted by the community"[1].

I have designed a very simple policy proposal. Our past attempts at dealing with this sensitive issue(e.g.ArbCom proposals) have been unsuccessful,imo, because of their complicatedness. I would simply ask, if possible, that this proposal be given an "up or down" vote (with associated comments of course). Any attempt to complicate OR DELAY IT (especially by existing administrators) could be seen as suspicious behavior, I think. Administrators who have the community's trust have nothing to fear with this proposal.

Proposal;

1. As of Feb.1,2006, adminships will be for a 1 year term. 2. All existing non-Bureaucrat adminships will terminate Feb. 1st. 2006.

3.Nominations for renewal of existing adminships will begin on January 24th.

SUPPORT;

OPPOSE;

COMMENTS;

RE:I hope you don't mind...

Thank you for reminding me, thanks to all those hurricanes, i forgot i was making that page, got to recreate that page, based on the current home pageterinjokes 19:32, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Image Policy

Hi, thanks for the heads up on the image policy--- is it still acceptable to use that image if it's on Wikicommons or is it a no no for this page because of the license? Sinblox 08:08, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

okay

Alright, I accept. An initial more thoughtful reply was on [user_talk:Nyarlathotep my talk page], but then I remembered proper talk page etiquette.  :) Nyarlathotep 17:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

At present, I feel the most effective way to deal with what wikipedia calles "POV warriors" is to provide them a strategy / "stay out of trouble" guide, which I'll try to write at some point. For example, we often see these long POV article which would be much easier to make NPOV if they were two or three articles about "seperate events", which still communicated the original POV via short crosslinking paragraphs. In a news format, shorter stories are much more effective at getting people to read them, plus they tend to end up on multiple days, thus increasing the stories visibility (in RSS too). Plus they are not so intimidating to other wikinewsies, making it much more likely that all eventually become NPOV. Nyarlathotep 10:07, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

UN 'optimistic' on tsunami aid effort

You just protected UN 'optimistic' on tsunami aid effort, can you fix the w: link to "Indonesian". Thanks! --Brian McNeil / ^talk 22:00, 22 December 2005 (UTC) Done. Bawolff (- 22:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Spinning globe on WN:A

Hey, I've reverted your image addition on WN:A because of the animation; I found that the image was quite annoying, personally, and felt as if it really didn't have much to do with the page itself. I did like your analogy, however, and felt as if we could use it as a quote on the page (which I will bring up on the talk page as a suggestion). --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 00:43, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

No problem, After looking at it today I almost did the same thing. Bawolff (- 05:05, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey

Why does the User:Bawolff/idea page not update the comments immediately? Am I missing something? Nyarlathotep 01:21, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

need to press the refresh to see new comments link. Bawolff (- 04:15, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Bawolf nice smiley face cheers just like to say about the news missouri woman swallows cell phone and iraq and other stuff i hope you and wikinews expands and gets more help also the speed on wikinews is medicore i hope it goes faster cleanuping articles thanks ba!

Thanks for the reponse

I wish I had more time now to actually work on articles. Hopefully you might keep an eye on the block log in case there is more strange activity (reblocks)? I will be just working on articles from now on; this internal conflict is too exhausting for me. Thanks again; Neutralizer 20:56, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikireason

Thanks for checking out how Google indexes Wikireason. Don't know why it would rank pages like that, but hopefully as the site gets more incoming links, the homepage will look better.

I monitor spam/vandalism, and revert it as soon as I catch it. I occasionally block IPs, but I don't think it is too effective. thanks for the note. --adam from Wikireason

Apparently MediaWiki now incorporates a "partial protection" system to prevent spam/vandalism on frequently defaced pages. I'll check it out. -adam

RE: Block of User:Gyre

Alright, then I'll talk to him about the meatpuppeting. --MrMiscellanious – Happy Hanukkah – 17:33, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Static infobox

It creates a buffer overflow here, it seems to list all articles ever published. --Deprifry|+T+ 23:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I think this is actually a very serious security bug. Just imagine someone would put it in Template:Latest_news. --Deprifry|+T+ 23:11, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

RSS

What happened, my RSS feed just went down? Brian New Zealand 00:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Howdy, good job on the http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Syndication article it looks great, I have been trying get the wikinews original reporting rss feed going, and your very nice looking page will help, thanks again Inic 14:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem Bawolff ☺☻ 19:39, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Your idea for comments

I'm considering starting a wikiblog wikicity to handle comments for the various wikimedia projects. It would involve a small MediaWiki extension, which I could probably write, if no one has done someone similar already, but it should be basically viable. And you seemed like someone who I'd like to have some input from.  :) Nyarlathotep 03:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

For your hard work

☻ Someone has poured you tea ☺

- Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 06:07, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. Bawolff (- 06:24, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Re Baseball etc

No worries re the baseball thing. I actually wasn't sure myself for a moment and had to check. I'm not sure why Wikinews is popular in Australia as opposed to the rest of the world. I've never seen it promoted here and I don't remember hearing about it while I was at uni, so I don't think it's had any great exposure or anything. I only stumbled here by accident from wikipedia last month and thought what a great idea it was and that it would be a good opportunity for me to exercise some of those skills I paid a lot of money to get but seem to have forgotten. lol. Sarah Ewart 06:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Forward

I sent you the newsletter. Peruano 15:45, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

So, is the article gonna be undeleted. Peruano 17:45, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Welcome message comments

Thanks for the welcome. I have just figured out a way to respond to your message. Perhaps there are other ways that are more useful?

For newbees a how to respond link would be useful - is there one?

As I said in my notes in reply to your comments: I hope this gets to you??? Your help will be much appreciated as I sort out how to do this. I'm on Firefox and don't have IRC installed. -I don't think this go to you.

It might be useful to have a few annotated examples of what makes up an article. Is this somewhere?

My first article: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Bolivian_President-Elect_takes_50%25_pay_cut_to_aid_social_program_funding has two photos that I added to the commons. I'm not sure how to decide if either is considered 'public' can you point me to someone that can help me with this? The details of the photos are with the photos in the commons. I'm not sure how to put links to this quickly, if you can show me how this is done I'll use it in future talks.

If you are interested in further newbee comments about how to help people learning the Wikinews ropes from ground zero let me know.

User:Easy / ^talk

More Images in the Commons

Thanks very much for helping sort out the images. Good to hear one was ok.

There needs to be a better way to get more photos into the commons. In my second article there were 5 references to famous people that I would have liked to show a thumbnail image of. All the people were listed in Wikipedia, only one? had an image and it did not look like it would be acceptable for Wikinews. The other's did not have photos. Please put me in contact with someone that can help me sort out what is needed for a photo to make it into the commons with NO restrictions. All the people are well known and should have some photos they would like to make available especially since this can help the work they are doing. Perhaps photos from their websites???

I would like to persue getting the photos of these 5 people at least - with some knowledgeable help. Hopefully I can find a way that others can use to obtain more images for the commons.

It can help everyone a lot - as you well know.

Thanks for your help.

Take care, Easy

Easy 04:52, 6 January 2006 (UTC)^talk

I've been wondering about this...

In the lead article, the image has these obscuring purple bars and has for a couple weeks. I didn't realize until just now the bars are due to your click template(s) which make the images navigation links.

It's a cool template hack! However, the bars are annoying. And I'm wondering how this affects image licensure, as it removes the direct link to the image (which contains the copyright/licensure notice and links required by most licenses.) - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 20:46, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

You shouldn't be able to see the purple bars if its set up right. I didn't think about the license thing when I put the template in. Note I didn't think up the template, I stole it from wikipedia after somebody pointed it out to me. (see template talk:sisterprojects) I don't know if it should be removed. Bawolff (- 20:51, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Can you see the purple bars on the pictures to sisterprojects at the bottom of the page? Bawolff (- 20:54, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

<looks> - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 21:23, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

No, no bars in the sisterprojects. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 21:24, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Is this being worked on? - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 20:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

RE: User:Mrmiscellanious/Sandbox/Quote

Yeah, go ahead. I just keep them on there because I'm usually the only one who uses them.  :) --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 23:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: WNN Video

Yes. On the organizational level, I'd like to merge audio and video into one subproject called WNN ("WN Network"). Hopefully with the creation of such a project, we could easily encourage more users into creating media files and expanding Wikinews even further than it has come in the previous year. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 23:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea. Bawolff (- 23:43, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

User:Gangleri/DIRMARK T

• Hi Bawolff! {{DIRMARK}} is a variable substitute until it is implemented in the MediaWiki software. As you can not change {{SITENAME}} users should not change {{DIRMARK}}.
• See template:wikivar template:wikivar|diff=191075&oldid=190829 which would brake if somebody is manipulating the template.
• Best regards en:User:Gangleri | T 23:12, 14 January 2006 (UTC) – #wikinews

Thanks! Best regards en:User:Gangleri | T 00:45, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I've moved this template and am updating links. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 19:21, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

football.css

Need to change the position of the logo to fixed! :-) Cheers Spum 11:36, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for reminder...

... however, I don't believe either image fell into that category. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 22:08, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I suppose it could be, but I always thought of publicity photos are those that were made to promote the person. If it were a FBI poster, and not just the image, I'd say it'd be publicity. This one, I think, is just plain fair use. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 12:04, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

RE: Wnn-logo-sm.png

This logo wouldn't be copyright by Wikimedia, because it hasn't been supported by them yet. If it does become accepted, I may consider the possibility of signing the copyright over to them. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 20:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

RE: Images

The FBI photo should be here, because it is fair use - publicity if you will. The WNN logo will stay here, and not on commons, because I don't even know if the proposal will go up, and I don't want them complaining about wrongly placed images. This way, I know where it's at and can delete it if it never goes through. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom nomination

Nobody can escape the call of duty! ;-) Please indicate whether you accept the nomination.--Eloquence 22:36, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Personal Attacks, Vandalism from I.P Address who commented on Portal:Football

Hey there bawolff. Just wanted to inform you that the IP that commented on the Portal:Football page is somewhat of a rabble rouser; he seems to enjoy pasting the misguided opinion that "English" are inbred remnants of United States Citizens (Renowned for being of course, unilaterally caucasian.. guess he hasn't heard of w:Americk). Well, anyway; it doesn't really concern me, whatever he says, because he obviously has way too much time on his hands.

Take care my friend :-) Spum

Checking about "Original-insight" articles

For instance - Say i wished to create an article which was an original article which offers some insight into a situatiuon. For example, it is unsure wether w:Thierry Henry will remain at w:Arsenal F.C., but say i wished to creat insight which was basically, my opinion on what i think is going to happen, is it okay to create such an article? Provided of course, i add that this is the opinion of me, and not certifiable fact.

Oppinion articles are only allowed in userspace.Bawolff (- 23:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Fixing the auto-fixtures

Is there any chance we can? :-D

Yes. Bawolff (- 16:49, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note

Right now surprisingly enough - no one wants to e-mail that address - we'll see what happens in the future though...only like 3000 or so spam piled up at present...

TTYS

Chris Bradley 22:10, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Weather poll

Why not? we have been trying, Amgine and I, I am creating the images for the Temps. Hmmm...we should try to get it back however. Jason Safoutin 20:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

transclude

How come you transclude the portals onto the cat page? Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 02:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Responded on Brian's page. Bawolff (- 02:57, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay; cheers, I just thought it was weird that we have the portals twice. but you are right it does look nicer. (I was just basing my knowage on the aussie cat. that is not transcluded :) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 03:01, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

undelete Chávez accused of anti-Semitism in Christmas speech

Hi, The article has been deleted so I don't know how you can have a look at it. It must've fallen through the cracks because it was listed as "abandoned" when, in fact, it was being regularly edited; and then it was deleted without a consensus. Hopefully you can manage to have a look at the article somehow. Neutralizer 03:49, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes I've looked at the article (I have Magical powers) I whish to see the opinions of others (specificly why) before I vote. Bawolff (- 03:52, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

RE: Image src

It'll take me a while, but I should be able to find it later today. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 15:42, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

ok, thanks. I'm just trying to track down all the pictures. Bawolff (- 18:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

---

The inter links are just for an incentive; e.g. a placeholder Spum 19:52, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, (Not sure if thats a good idea or not.) Bawolff (- 01:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Gov Ip's

a little bit obsessed that the gov is writing wikinews, are we[1]? Bawolff (-image:smile.png 21:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Heh, MrM is doing a proper contributions check just now. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 21:48, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom Table

np with adding the ranking, the only reason I did not, was becaue I was not sure if I should add them. I think it is a good idea thru. Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 03:44, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Bawolff (- 03:54, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that error, Don't know how I mised it. :) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 23:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

No problem. It didn't actually change any resaults. Bawolff (- 23:20, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

The Arbcom selection process is completed, and you have been chosen by the community to serve in this role. Hopefully you won't have anything to do but twiddle your thumbs, but good on you anyway! - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 23:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Congrats. Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 23:40, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Bawolff (- 23:43, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikiquote logo deletion

Please do not delete any wikimedia logos. The image was hosted here due to issues with Commons deleting and altering logo images, destroying Wikinews layouts. This image is no longer available, which once again makes Wikinews dependent on Commons. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 16:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

You should be apprised that MediaWiki does not actually use .svg images. SVG images are converted and served as .png images because very few browsers support .svg images. For example, the wikibooks logo you uploaded is being served on the main page as http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/thumb/f/fa/Wikibooks-logo.svg/40px-Wikibooks-logo.svg.png. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 23:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

iow, neither is scaling up to the specified 3000px. And we need 35px. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 03:25, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

As I understand it, and I may be completely mistaken, MediaWiki creates an initial .png on upload for an SVG, and then never uses the SVG again. It works solely with the created .png. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 03:30, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation IRC

Hi can you join us on freenode #wikimedia-meeting and support me in the comment idea? :-) we may go +m soon, then it may be too late for u to join :( -- unforgettableid | talk to me 21:08, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

StrangerInParadise's block

I've reverted your 12h block, because it superseeds the recommendation of a 24h block for the first offense, and have instead reinstated a 48h block on StrangerInParadise. Seeing as this is the user's second offense in the past week, and that the user has been informed of wrongdoing numerous times, I think this is a fair block. Please respond on my talk page if you wish to continue this discussion (or join IRC). --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 01:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

→ talk to Brian McNeil. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:58, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

You noticed :)

What I was trying to do (a month ago) was find a way on the kiwi portal, where I could have a weeks worth of DPL days ready, and at the start of each week it would change over (If that makes any cents :)) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 05:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Signature

I like you sig, - the smiley face :) 125.236.44.48 01:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Category:Olympics

Hi Bawolff, this is Amgine.

A category serves a different purpose than a portal. It lists articles which are related to the topic in an alphabetic format, suitable for searching. A portal, on the other hand displays current information and news, as well as links to the latest related articles and similar topical portals. In short, suitable for browsing, but not for searching. - 24.84.55.177 05:53, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

But as Dan100 pointed out, its very rare you'd want to search through news articles. I think A transcluded portal would be better, because its less clicks, as people may get to it from the cat links at the bottom of a page. Its also fairly easy to scroll down to get to the category listing, if on rare occasion you do whiish to search. Its also more pretty too. (okay the last lines a bit subjective)

Seccond question, why arn't you logged in? It looks kind of suspecious. I'm pretty sure its you as journowiki.org resolves to that IP, but its still kind of strange. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

My 3RR Proposal

I've called for a vote on the 3RR Proposal. Thanks for your earlier comments. StrangerInParadise 05:39, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Can I count on your vote for the 3RR proposal? Note that it is separate to the WN:Administrators proposal, on which I haven't yet moved for a vote. StrangerInParadise 21:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration

Please enter your opinion as to whether the ArbCom should accept a request for arbitration in User:172.150.5.17 vs. User:Amgine. --Chiacomo ^(talk) 00:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Please enter your opinion as to whether the ArbCom should accept a request for arbitration in User:Brian New Zealand v User:Amgine --Chiacomo ^(talk) 05:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Your back :)

Did you have a good break? Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 00:24, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, yes it was. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

RfAr

Well, I initially brought it straight to the ArbCom because I didn't think the Dispute Resolution process would be very valid. [5] I with drew my request in favour of Brian New Zealands on the unanimous request of pretty much everybody in sight at the time. [6] Brian New Zealand is firmly in favour of the use of userboxes, and he is also engaged in debates in their favour on en.Wikipedia where their presence is far more invasive, and the debates have sparked considerable involvement in the community. I am firmly of the opinion they act in a manner disruptive and harmful to the community, and violate the "not a webhost" policy of Wikinews. He and I are not opposed to each other, though we did edit war over his user page.

I believe neither of us will benefit from bringing this matter to dispute resolution. I am, however, willing to engage in that process if it is deemed necessary. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 00:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Sitenotice

I don't think that the e-mail comfirm should be in the sitenotice, its allready on top of people's watchlist's Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 01:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I didn't no that. Some people don't use watchlists (like me! find them kind of useless because news articles are only edited for a short period of time. a couple pages are their to make them bold in RC (like wc and dr) but I don't actually look at the thing.) how about just putting that up there for a short period of time (~a day). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thats Fine, a day won't hurt, (BTW I fixed it, so it won't show to non-logged on users) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 01:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Arbcom Mailing List

I have created an ArbCom mailing list on Google Groups (I didn't get a response when asking in #wikimedia-tech). Please send me a message from the address to which you wish to receive arbcom message. --Chiacomo ^(talk) 05:16, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

re block

Thanks it should have been Meta:Meta:WikiProject_on_open_proxies --Cspurrier 21:25, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Redirect vs. speedy deletion, status on your user page

Hi. I just saw that you returned the speedy deletion requests for Largest mass extinction in 65 million years underway, say scientists and its talk page into redirects. These pages do not link to anything (except for the new redirect) and nothing links to these pages, either. As I am not familiar with speedy deletions on the English wikinews, I would just like to ask you whether you always keep such pages here.

BTW, your user page tells us that you will be on wikinews holidays for a week from 30 November, 2005 on. ;-) Maybe you want to change it. --Angela H. 21:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Redirects are cheap. Either way works in this case. As for my userpage, I changed the one on my talk, and forgot the one on my userpage (whoops) Bawolff ☺☻ 21:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

hey thanks for the heads up on the userbox war. --Zachjones4 21:08, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem, we'll probally find out soon if they're going to be allowed or not. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:09, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Subject of Ayyavazhi

Hai, Bawolff. Why the category Ayyavazhi and article Ayyavazhi were suggested to deletion -Vaikunda Raja 23:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I voted there to keep Ayyavazhi. Then what futher we can do? -Vaikunda Raja 23:16, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

It appears the portal was listed on March 9th, 4 days ago. This is one day longer than required. The category's sole entry was that portal. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 23:17, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow. edit conflict. An anonoymous user deleted the dr notice on the page. There for {{dr}} wasn't on the actual page long enough. I don't think one more day would hurt. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:22, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

To: Vaikunda Raja: If you whish for the portal to be kept, ask the voters at dr what steps they feel would be required to turn it into something acceptable at wikinews. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:22, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Undeletion out of process

Excuse me, the anon deleted the deletion notice after it had been listed in the portal and on DR page for more than 4 days. You have undeleted this portal out of process. Furthermore, this portal has no news articles and serves solely to advertise this religion, and is thus a speedy deletion candidate. I would request that you reconsider your actions. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 23:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I was not aware that the notice was deleted today (thought it was yesterday) Reversing my actions. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

RfAr process

I commented here, but the nutshell is it's for the archives of the case. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 05:14, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews Survey

Hi Bawolff, I wanted to thank you for your comments on the Wikinews survey. I agree with some of your concerns. Part of the questions are structured so that there can be consistency across sites I am surveying. In addition, I'm hesitant to make news changes, as there have already been some responses. I'm not sure how else to contact you about the option you suggested of posting at mediawiki:Sitenotice or Portal:Article Collaboration. If your concern is perception as spam, other sites (such as OhMyNews) have put a link on the side on their front pages and I have not received any major objections from readers. Of course though, each site has its own culture. Please contact me at Hsing_Wei@ksg06.harvard.edu if you're open to talking further. Thanks again. Hsing 13:39, 16 March 2006 (UTC)Hsing

rfc:3066

Excellent! I'll leave that for the second generation of this idea though; there are too many possibilities for this initial offering. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 00:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

medal count

The reason that the equal sign is there, is showing that the counties are tided. However if you think they should not be there, I'll remove them Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 23:11, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I see. To me it looks like someone made a table markup mistake, and thats the last thing I'd have geussed. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, i suppose they could be seen to be a markup mistake :) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 23:25, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Re; my comment to Ironiridis

• My comment was meant just as a retaliation to his accusing me of voting against his adminbecause of his edits. I considereed that accusation very insulting so I tried to do a "comeback" that was supposed to get under his skin like his "dissapointing" comment got under mine. I couldn't even stand my own comment so I changed it to a triple negative which basically negated the damn thing. The bottom line is, it wasn't meant to be taken as anything more than a silly comeback comment.
• It was stupid and wrong for me to make that comment so I am going to send a big apology to Ironiridis along with an explanation that I hope shows it was not meant as a serious accusation. Neutralizer 14:08, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad you choose to do that. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:33, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Motion to Close - BNZ v Amgine

Would you please vote (or discuss or make a change in the implementation notes) in the Motion to Close in BNZ v Amgine? Thank you! --Chiacomo ^(talk) 00:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Your userbox whitelist support (outside of RfAr, of course)

You have consistently resisted instruction creep of any kind (even in good ideas like my 3RR proposal =)). I am curious why you would even consider supporting this. StrangerInParadise 07:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

On Brian v Amgine you're down as supporting a whitelist

By creating a net-5 vote, you are making it policy on the motion to close, though you said that this policy should not be made by arbcom. Which is it? If you think ArbCom should not do this, you need to change your vote for the userbox whitelist! If you are even tempted to support this, then consider a whitelist for allowable news topics as well. StrangerInParadise 18:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be a suggestion, and I think I made that clear in my vote. I don't like the making it policy, but just delaying the closure of the case will do nothing. I feel that the whitelist's instruction creep, counteracts the wasted time on squabling over userboxes. As I see it, the whitelist is fully modifiable at anytime if any-one wants another different box. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Your vote counted as more than a suggestion, it was counted as a support. The only person who has wasted time over userboxes is Amgine, to whom ArbCom has handed just what he wanted- a pass on his actions and a gag on userboxes. Why should anyone have to seek prior permission to put something on his userpage, or to offer it to others? Please make your views clear. This would not delay closure of the case, it just means ArbCom doesn't make a whitelist policy. StrangerInParadise 23:58, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

As you can see, I voted support to the reconfirm. Even if I didn't vote support to the whitelist, It'd still have 4 votes. Notwithstanding my opinions on arbcom and policy, I still support the whitelist as a means of control over userboxes. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:02, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

By reconfirm, I assume you mean the summary at the bottom of the final decision. So long as your intention was to create a whitelist policy, that's fine. Your vote may actually be decisive, as I have asked EdBrown05 to confirm his as well, since his comments didn't quite square with his vote either. I don't have a problem with ArbCom making interim policy, per se, but this is a particularly bad one, sorry. Thanks for the confirmation. StrangerInParadise 00:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Category Economy and business

I saw your note but I dont understand the question. What do you have in mind? --Sfullenwider 05:16, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Except for those of us who have a really good understanding of the workings of a wiki I fail to see the point, we're small enough to know one another... Plus I can't figure out the tag :) --Sfullenwider 05:22, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Also only one of thoose people are still active, so they're not used very much. (Tag is [[Category:Interest in Economy and business]] added to userpage). just thought I'd mention. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:28, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Interview questions needed: Chris Cerf

Christopher Cerf has agreed to an interview, co-organized and published by Wikinews and Muppet Wiki (a Wikicities project).

Chris' achievements throughout the years include:

• composer and lyricist for Sesame Street (three Emmys, two Grammys).
• founded and served as original editor-in-chief of Sesame Workshop's books, records, and toys division, critical in funding the series.
• co-creating Between the Lions.
• senior editor at Random House for eight years. There he worked with writers George Plimpton, Andy Warhol, Abbie Hoffman, Ray Bradbury, and Dr. Seuss.
• editor and producer of Marlo Thomas & Friends' Free To Be... A Family book, album and TV special. The book was a NYT #1 bestseller within a week of publication.
• Contributing Editor of National Lampoon magazine
• involved in Not the New York Times, The Experts Speak, The Pentagon Catalog: Ordinary Products at Extraordinary Prices, The Official Politically Correct Dictionary, The Gulf War Reader, The Iraq War Reader

• his songs have been sung by Paul Simon, Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, R.E.M., James Taylor, Tony Bennett, The Dixie Chicks, Tracy Chapman, Carol Channing, Randy Travis, The Four Tops, Melissa Etheridge, Smokey Robinson, Bonnie Raitt, Wynton Marsalis, Little Richard, B.B. King, Jimmy Buffett, Bart Simpson, and the Metropolitan Opera's José Carreras
• Cerf’s musical material has appeared on Saturday Night Live, The National Lampoon Radio Hour, The Electric Company, Square One Television, Between the Lions, and in numerous Muppet productions
• Son of Bennett Cerf (publisher, editor, and TV panelist, co-founder of Random House)

Got a question about Chris, his writings, his compositions, his productions, etc? -- Zanimum 18:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...

for the welcome. SeniorWikiNewsReporter 23:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

ping

commons:User talk:Bawolff. pctdayelise 05:34, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Daily e-mail of the Print edition pdf

You said you might need reminding of looking into this - so here's your reminder! Sounds a really good idea. Dan100 (Talk) 10:34, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Userbox discussion seems dead.

I reviewed your version a while back. I have a few problems with it, particularly the issues regarding transclusion as it serves as a defacto category system for users like SiP (who used a whatlinkshere to locate and spam people for the purpose of skewing a vote.)

I'd like to propose a few modifications to your policy:

Userboxes must not be templates (both as in transcluded and in template: namespace)

See below for justification for this change.

Userboxes must be limited to user space

Userboxes must be limited to use in User: and User talk: namespaces. They may link to pages in the Wikinews: namespace (such as the Wikinews:Translators pages) or pages in the User: and User talk: namespaces.

This replacement of the paragraph focuses on where they may be used (not in any other namespace) and what they may link to.

Userboxes which aren't templates

Almost any page can act like a template, and be included in another page. But better yet, almost any page can be copied into another page. Using {{subst:Namespace:Pagename}} the actual text of a page can be copied into a user's page wherever they would like it. Userboxes must be copied into the user's page.

Requiring userboxes to be subst: removes their use to create pools of party voters.

There are a number of shoulds I would prefer to remove, to avoid future arguments. Especially with wikilawyers. But the one thing I really want to avoid is use of transclusion. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 18:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I personally think, the less set in stone the better This way if that is truely the best method it will always be applied, and if it isn't something else will be applied. But to me, I'm not planing to really use userboxes so I honestly don't mind too much either way. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:00, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Just a silly question...

The latest news is on the main page, as well as a link to the latest news (!?) and to the RSS feed for the latest news, as well as to Wikipedia articles on RSS and Atom. There are also two links to audio wikinews, the latest podcast, the RSS feed, and to Wikipedia help using OGG. The print edition has 2 links including the latest, an RSS feed, and a link to the Wikipedia article on Portable Document Format. And you've just added a link to a place where all of these are linked again, plus a link to WP articles on IRC and HTML.

Why do we need all these links on the main page? Don't we currently have a horrendously unbalanced layout? - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 23:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, when you put it that way, perhaps not . I just thought it'd be great to have a link to all the feeds all in one place. feel free to remove it if you wish. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Well hello!

Thanks for the warm welcome! It's nice to be acknowledged, especially when I'm just trying to figure out how the simplest things work.  :) Aramistin 07:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for saying Hi!

I'm a longtime Wikipedian making the dubious jump to Wikinews, and just wanted to say thank you...if the goals of wikinews are the same as Wikipedia, in general, I'll be fine...I mainly joined it because I was a subject of a Wikinews article by a fellow with a similar name to mine...and got accused (by similarity of the names) of contributing to a wikinews story about myself, which I didn't do! (I discovered a natural entrance to Mammoth Cave and the guy who reported it to wikinews has a similar name.) I promise to do my best to contribute only responsible edits or submissions. Best, Alan Canon 07:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Hotel articles

Thanks for the compliments :) I have put a lot of work into them and researched a lot. I made some good friends and in turn, they want Wikinews to be the main source of media reporting. According to the lawyer, for the most recent article, they sent me all the information before the local media :) Jason Safoutin 11:24, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

tea-time

thanks, bawolff, a cup of tea always hits the spot. :) Doldrums 16:12, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews:Requests for arbitration/Users Cartman02au et al v Mrmiscellanious

It seems that little has happened with the case over the past few weeks. Is it possible that it be wrapped up shortly?-Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 23:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. I'll try and push it forward. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bawolff. I must be leaving the site for now, but I wanted you to be aware of these discussions before I return:

I posted to Cartman02au's talk page the following comment...

As you are one of the bringers of the case, my concern for you and other editors is the refusal by MrM to deal with the issues raised. What is sought by the dispute resolution process is a change in MrM's behavior. If he is allowed to not respond by labelling them as "attacks", and refuses to respond, then no opportunity is afforded you, as a disputant, to receive the relief you sought.

Are you satisfied with the heightened awareness of etiquette as enough of a response.

Personally, I am not. I maintain that it a responsibility to respond to the community. Failure to do so is one of the highest breeches of etiqette, because it ignores another's concerns. Where to ignore someone belittles them.

I have thoughts to proceed by asking ArbCom to either force MrM to answer to the dispute, or that he, or by precident any other editor, would leave the community if they refuse to answer to disputes that have merit.

Thoughts? -Edbrown05 01:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Cartman02au replied...

I agree that the case is far from being resolved to satisfaction. The problem is that at present it is hanging in limbo, which at the same time is doing nothing to solve the problem either.

I am not sure we could force MrM to answer the allegations, but I certainly agree that his behaviour should not go unnoticed. All that would do is give rise to a precendent that to avoid ArbCom action you just ignore the case - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 08:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I made an identical comment to DragonFire1024, which resulted in this exchange on my talk page....

My stance has been clear. If any admin is do be de-admined, it is to be through a Rfda and voted from the community. Arbcom has no right to take away a position to which the community voted on. So I will not support a de-admin through arbcom. IMO, this arbcom case was opened with no other means of dispute resolution. As I know, you were blocked for an attack on MrM. Whether it was actually one or not I don't know. But you were blocked. If he feels that he was attacked by you, then I too would be hesitant to respond or might not respond at all. If you want to speak of ediquette, then IMO you should recuse from the Arbcom Committee in this case. Jason Safoutin 16:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know why I was blocked, no explanation was ever given to me.

Your reply Jason is symtomatic of the problem... "If he [MrM] feels he was attacked...", then it results in a case where there is failure to "... respond at all."

I think that position leads toward what you complain about, that Wikinews is becoming a 'Theatre of War'. It will be and continue to be a theatre if people's concerns are being ignored, which is what MrM seems to be doing. -Edbrown05 16:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

That maybe your opinon, but I have never had a problem with MrM, and if I did, it was resolved. I see him attempting to keep the peace, but in most cases (90%) he is completely and blantantly ignored. I have given up on talk pages of articles that are disputed becasue of the lack of colloberation. I have in the past days, noticed a few articles where he is ignored, and where I was ignored. If I was attacked by you or anyone for that matter, I would not respond and if I did, it would not be right away. I don't think he is ignoring anything, I think 90% o the time he is beig ignored. And its not just him being ignored either. Jason Safoutin 16:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

You are responding with an 'article-centric' point-of-view, where I was speaking from an 'ArbCom-centric' point of view. I was referring to MrM's failure to repond at Dispute resolution/Users Borofkin, Mrmiscellanious, and others.

On article talk pages, I don't think anybody is able to put a finger on the exact causes of issues that arise there, but the manner in which MrM intacts with community is summarized by disputants on the 'Dispute resolution' linked in the paragraph above.

For MrM to work out the problems he confronts, he must face them. -Edbrown05 17:03, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Singapore Elections

Thanks for helping me update. I didn't see anything about the elections, so I decided to help out. How does one go about making a page "published"? --203.206.88.20 02:28, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! That's a lot of help. Hope I can put in some kind of image relating to the elections.--203.206.88.20 03:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi, my contributions in text are in CC-BY. Feel free to copy the table. The use of logos are fairuse, i suppose. cheers. --Vsion 03:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou. yes picts are okay. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

re: Great work

Hi Bawolff, thank you for your compliment!

Concerning the templates, I understood that I´m supposed to add the big template to every article, since I´ve read it like this on the help pages. But since I read so many help pages in the first days of working for and with wiki, I might have misread it. Anyway, I do think your perception of this is good. (And I admit, I had the same feeling once or twice, especially, when I read a rather short article. :-)

Tell you wa´, from now on I´ll just stick to the small template. Since this is wikinews, I guess, no one will "beat me up" for that. ;-) Thanks Gumboyaya 09:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Now that I´ve reread the relevant help pages, and just for your info: You are right. I already changed all the pages, as far as I could. Ta Gumboyaya 09:44, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok. I was wondering, because on some of thoose pages the big template looked really weird (: Bawolff ☺☻ 16:11, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Portal Africa

Thanks for your prompt response. I added a new category on that article, though i "category:Africa" was added on 5th and "category:Sudan" is added today, ie 7th. I am sure the programme can be changed so that a new category can can be added on a later day, which won't change the original posting date of the article.Thanks again.Indrajitneogi 19:02, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm not sure what you mean by I am sure the programme can be changed so that a new category can can be added on a later day, which won't change the original posting date of the article., so I can't really help you with that. I think they or organized by the DPl not which category is added (i.e. Adding a new cat won't help) but the DPL's confuse me in that aspect a bit. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:11, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Alternative stylesheets

According to Template:Wn news, you're the person to ask about this. The alternative stylesheet 'Clean and blue' replaces the Wikinews logo with a Wikipedia one. Is there any way we can prevent this? Frankie Roberto 09:56, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes. I was just about to fix it actually. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:53, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Good stuff! Cheers, Frankie Roberto 22:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk Page

Thanks for deleting my unnecessary talk page. FellowWikiNews 22:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Motion to close

There is a motion to close in Users Cartman02au et al v Mrmiscellanious. Would please review the implementation notes and cast your vote, if you feel ready? --Chiacomo ^(talk) 04:42, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

cat:Washington, D.C.

What do you think, scrap [[Category:District of Columbia]], and replace it with [[Category:Washington, D.C.]]? Your category usage in Wuerl appointed Washington, D.C.'s new bishop is more intuitive. -Edbrown05 00:58, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Crap, did I use the wrong one :O. Sure, that sound okay. (I thought I checked that). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I was going to say something about that. FellowWikiNews 01:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

What do you think FellowWikiNews? Is there anything in the District of Columbia besides Washington? -Edbrown05 01:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. FellowWikiNews 23:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

For what? Bawolff ☺☻ 00:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I think Edbrown05 did not like what I said. FellowWikiNews 00:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

contest

If the contest started on the 16, why does it say I have 2 jokers...We start with 3 right...well I earned one by doing 2 articles on the 16...on the 17 (today) I poublished one article, assuming vonbergm comments on it soon. Jason Safoutin 20:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Looking into it. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

fixed. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Barcelona article

Ahh erm a good start for my first article! Ok would a piece of original writing using Wikipedia work (I watched the game but its always useful to have backup), and also was the use of the lineups from the BBC article allowed; I would assume so because lineups are published freely in every media outlet and I didn't just copy those but adapted them, but I'd rather make sure. --Iamajpeg 10:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Its fine to re-write something wikipedia has done. We're just not allowed to cut and paste from them (they're allowed to cut and paste from us though). Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

ISP

<grin> Yes, I know, that's why I own a commercial line for my setup. I am the ISP for this server. And the server is sitting a few feet away from me, so I can upgrade the hardware when I can afford it. And so on. <muwahahaha> Okay, maybe it's not so great; I still don't have the time/skills to fix the things which need fixing. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 17:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

World to End - prepared story

Hi I'm Deicide2006 trying to contact User: Bawolff (and I'm too stupid to figure out user talk)

Yes - I am trying to create "world ends" prepared stories page and can't. Am I doing something wrong or is it disallowed?

Update - Hey! I found my earlier version under [[Wikinews:Bad_jokes_and_other_deleted_nonsense|] !!

Well I'm glad you all had fun - but I was being serious! World's gonna end some day... no more ridiculous than any of the other "prepared storied" IMHO. Genuinely... there was a serious point in there... somewhere... I vote for re-instating it, as the one story on Wikinews which is perpetually "prepared" but never quite finished; an eternal work in progress. deicide2006

Well you're free to try at WN:DR#Undeletion_requests, but I'm doubtful it'll pass. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

svg->png

I was just talking with the commons admins to figure out what was going on with this; there are no plans to delete the .png there. It appears to be a somewhat eager contributor from Hong Kong. - Amgine | ^{talk en.WN} 04:55, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I was just looking for something to do. It seemed consistant with commons policy of deleting everything, everybody, and their dog. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:22, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

IWWC

Thanks for your comments - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 22:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Maybe that is why Aussies need this, we spend too much time sitting in front of a computer editing wikis lol - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks for finding the time to vote on my RfA. I assure you that if I am granted Administratorship, I will use it use it solely in the best interests of Wikinews.

Confirmation

I changed the confirmation notice on WN:A a bit -- and voting shouldn't really begin before 0000 UTC tomorrow (May 26). --Chiacomo ^(talk) 05:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Mmm, the case closed on 23:26, 12 May 2006 (UTC). --Chiacomo ^(talk) 05:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

When I looked, the date is March 20 somehow (relooking). Bawolff ☺☻ 05:47, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

The last vote on the motion to close was May 12 -- I closed it later that night at around 2300. See the top of the page for the closed stamp and the bottom of the proposed decision page for the last vote. --Chiacomo ^(talk) 05:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

The case wasn't opened until March 22. --Chiacomo ^(talk) 05:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I read the wrong date. I thought it was strange that neut let this pass for a month without saying anything. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I've been following the date carefully. No problem! --Chiacomo ^(talk) 06:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Chat WNN

You can use an irc client or the web applet, the info is this:

irc.everywherechat.com:8000
#WNN

Okay, thanks. I just realized what day the 29th is, so I proably won't be able to come, but best of luck with it. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:42, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Rfda

This is a message to inform you that I have added every administrator to the Rfda section on WN:A. This is not personal and I feel as if the community, who did not have the option of voting for or against most of the administrators, should be able to choose who they want to be in charge. I also want to say that I value everyones work on this site and I know that everyone does their best. I hope that none of you will take this personally and I hope that all of us will continue to work together. Jason Safoutin 12:06, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

contest 2

I just published the IOTM for May: Keep your eyes peeled for cosmic debris. Would that count as an article for the writing contest? Jason Safoutin 17:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually Ral315 just helped out :) Jason Safoutin 17:51, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Image

I got it at Wikimedia commons under Kabul [7]

On another note, I am writing an article about the Curfew in Kabul and I am able to put the image in. However, I do not know how to make a thumbnail, can you help me out here?

-Thanks JesseCM

Thanks!

Thanks for the tip. I'm new here and took it as a warm welcome. If there is anything I can do to help around here just let me know. RadioKirk talk to me 22:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure. Theres lots to do depending what you're intreasted in. Finding good pictures for articles is one way that people who know their way arround commons/the image license thing, help out often (However are rules are different). Also Wikinews:Audio is always looking for more volunteers (well I assume so, I don't spend that much time on the audio part of the site). As well, Recent changes patrol is a lot more fun then in wikipedia as we don't have an overburdening amount of edits. You'll proablly find something you like to do here, after exploring a little. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

P.S Consider joining the IRC channel #Wikinews, #Wikinews-en on freenode.net , as well as #en.wikinews on irc.wikimedia.org

Main page!

What happend to the main page? I could be wrong, but there are redlinks. See my comment here. FellowWikiNews 00:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Agreed.

Go ahead. Ral315 (talk) 02:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I kinda already did, because you didn't respond for two days. Glad we agree. (I hope Elliot agrees to rejoin) Happy editing Bawolff ☺☻ 03:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

My impostor

Frankly, it shouldn't have taken me as long to figure it out as it did, but I know who my impostor was, and the pw was simple from there, and the account is mine. Chiacomo was kind enough to unblock based on my e-mail address. When it's convenient, feel free to unblock the account itself. As for User:MyName, don't block him yet, let me see what I can do first. Thanks again for your help! RadioKirk talk to me 05:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Nanook

Per this discussion, feel free to permablock User:Nanook. Meantime, User:MyName swears his vandal days are over, and I hope he means it this time—among other things, an awful lot of eyes will be watching ;) RadioKirk talk to me 18:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Quick Question

Is there a list of all articles listed and in development so I can see what is already being covered and not recover something? MyName 18:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

yes. wikinews:Workspace, template:developing stories as well as a list on the lower right of the main page. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Also, the vandlaism will NEVER happen again. MyName 00:27, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Well I hope so. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: My picture of the week

LOL sorry, this cracks me up... "Feel free to use ... my picture of the week", just follow this red link!! ;) RadioKirk talk to me 01:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Well at one point I had pictures there that I thought were cool. Then I stoped updating it because, well I'm lazy. Link auto-changes each week. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Q: Page Styles

In the monobook theme there is the View -> Page Style. But it only applys to that page, how can I make it so it is the default? nzgabriel 07:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It only applies to the current page, because of the way your browser works (which to me seems sort of stupid). If you want it to stay the same you have to add a line to user:Nzgabriel/monobook.css, and it will stay that way. Which style do you want? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Datrio. Please. nzgabriel 03:03, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Add

@import url(http://pl.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikireporter:Datrio/monobook.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css);

Re: Bureaucrat

I will accept, though I'm not sure we really need another bureaucrat. Thank you for your confidence. --Chiacomo ^(talk) 03:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Alright (: Bawolff ☺☻ 03:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

To make things right

As a part of ArbCom you have selected and approved some users to do CheckUser permissions. This is done without any discussions, nominations or selection by Wikinews community. ArbComs part in this is not stated in any policy on Wikinews and this speedy and unauthoriced process can be seen as instructioncreeping. A fair posision in this case is to accept Wikimedia Foundation demand for allowing CheckUser permissions. It is that ArbCom approve them.

In ArbCom You now have selected these users. That is not a within ArbComs authotity. Whats done is a mistake and can easy be corrected by ArbCom. Declare this decision open and ask the community to select these users. The selection process is a buissnes for the whole Wikinews community and should be done by voting.

I must point to the importance of this. As I wrote in water cooler this can be a first step to make ArbCom to a kind of goverment body and this is not whats decided. I will go so far as to question the status of those of you, that dont work against a community based selection in this case, as elected representative in ArbCom or in worst case raise the question of ArbComs abolishing.

I hope that you solve this problem and make things right and dont put prestige in this in itself small thing. international 22:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I will consider your message and talk with the rest of arbcom. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The policy change

You are right. The only important thing is that make it more obvious that ArbCom dont make other decisions than it is made to do. It might bee tempting to not ask community and let Arbcom make more faster and effective decisions. Or be used as a representative body in talks with others, like Wiki Foundation. This it what I think happend. international 09:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

To be more clear, The selection was not a dispute resolution, therby not a task for arbcom international 10:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Canadian English

But what if I like Canadian English??? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I like Canadian English. The page is a joke. FellowWikiNews 23:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes I know, I was joking. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:17, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

checkuser

Some rule like this might work, although in principle the operation guidelines are good. Maybe the problem is just that it takes a couple of checkuser requests until everybody, including the people with checkuser authority gather some understanding of the guidelines.

What I find more concerning than 'frivolous checkuser requests' is fishing. This boils down to the people with checkuser privilige needing to understand the basics of how checkuser can and cannot be used (apart from the need to understand the technical side of figuring out which IPs are proxies, open proxies, access points, ..., so that not all people going through AOL's proxy come up as sockpuppets). I believe Chiacome understands these issues sufficiently well, whereas Cspurrier clearly does not. At this point, I simply believe Cspurrier should not have checkuser privilige because of this. Surely there is a trusted user on this wiki that could replace him. I am not sure if arbcom was paying attention to these issues when they selected these people, but this should be easy to fix. I find this much preferrable to miniculously spelling out policy regarding what is allowed with checkuser and what is not. Or do you have another idea how to deal with this? --vonbergm 04:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

You bring up a good point. you can always add more instructions, and more beuracrasy, but it isn't always a good idea. I also agree that revealing factchecker (I think it was fact checker) as sock was inapropriate. I'll think more about this tonight.user:Bawolff 05:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Another tought on checkuser. There should be a formal accept/reject procedure before a checkuser is perfromed. My guess is that if Cspurrier had not jumped on it right away, that request would have been rejected (for reasons including the one that the last checkuser was rejected). If we continue to have three checkusers, then it would make sense that one needs two 'accepts' until a checkuser can go ahead. (not sure how to deal with two accept and one reject.) also, maybe it is worthwile to put a sentence on data fishing into the policy, just for the record. Assuming that all checkusers understand the statistical and technological aspects of checkuser (which I am not confident in right now), this should be fine. --vonbergm 03:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. "Tonight" is when the next Checkuse request comes up? I am afraid that people will get upset again if there are no clear rules. Last time, Cspurrier (and Amgine) argued that fishing is ok. So I guess it will happen again. --vonbergm 04:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, sorry about that, Lifes been busy, and I havn't had time to do much here. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:24, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Story prep.

Thanks for the tip Bawolff, I knew there was a feature like that but I couldnt find it at the time. Cheers. Fy2006 07:36, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. glad I could help. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Checkuserpolicy

Very good proposition, The only thing that might make it better is a longer time between userrequest and formal checkuser request. 24 hours seems good. There is hardly a rush with it as in all cases of emergensy I can think on, action can take place without checkuser. And important to not, this include 'the checkusers' also. international 11:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

User talk:205.189.97.202

Can you please delete this again? FellowWikiNews 22:10, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

CommonsTicker

I have configured and tested CommonsTicker for your site, please have a look. Please tell me if everything is OK, so I can start the ticker. -- w:de:Benutzer:Duesentrieb 16:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I put the newest entries on top (sorry about that). Shall I activate the bot now? -- w:de:Benutzer:Duesentrieb 23:57, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure. Thanks again. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I activated the ticker, next update around 10:13 UTC - note that there may be issues due to the massive replication lag we currently have on the toolserver. I'm working on making CommonsTicker more resilient to that. -- w:de:Benutzer:Duesentrieb 08:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Yipee. Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

CommonsTicker: new version to fix some problems

e replication lag we currently see on the toolserver (it's more than a day behind). While I hope this will not happen again in the future, I have been working on improving CommonsTicker so it handles out-of-sync entries gracefully.

I plan to activate a new version of CommonsTicker tonight or tomorrow - so look out for any new problems. Here are the most relevant changes:

• fix handling of out-of-sync records (see above); added "latecomer" parameter to TickerEntry template (may be ignored)

id=377144 like this]. ikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ADuesentrieb%2FCommonsTicker&diff=377180&oldid=377144 here] for an example that strikes out the entry if status is set to "done".

For the future, I'm planning to let CommonsTicker post warnings to the talk page of articles that use an image das is (about to be) deleted. I'll post another announcement when that feature is ready.

This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker -- CommonsTicker 14:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

CommonsTicker: new version to fix some problems

Hello - sorry, the privious message was a bit broken. Below is a full repost. Sorry again -- CommonsTicker 14:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

---

Hi - you may have noticed some problems with CommonsTicker lately - namely, some entries about deletions went missing, and some entries arrived several days late (messing up the date headings for ticker pages using append mode). This is caused by the massive replication lag we currently see on the toolserver (it's more than a day behind). While I hope this will not happen again in the future, I have been working on improving CommonsTicker so it handles out-of-sync entries gracefully.

I plan to activate a new version of CommonsTicker tonight or tomorrow - so look out for any new problems. Here are the most relevant changes:

• fix handling of out-of-sync records (see above); added "latecomer" parameter to TickerEntry template (may be ignored)
• deleted images can be restored now. To reflect this, I have added a "restored" action to CommonsTicker. To use it, you need to change your templates and/or CSS like this.
• for pages in append-mode, there an empty "status" parameter is now handed to the TickerEntry template - this parameter can be set manually to trigger some type of marking or highliting, depending on how you set up your template and CSS. See here for an example that strikes out the entry if status is set to "done".

For the future, I'm planning to let CommonsTicker post warnings to the talk page of articles that use an image das is (about to be) deleted. I'll post another announcement when that feature is ready.

This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker -- CommonsTicker 14:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Hay

Wanna hear a joke? Wazzawazzawaz 15:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure I geuss. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Vonbergm

Shouldn't Vonbergm be nominated for adminship eventually? I havn't really been watching but I havn't seen any issues. Nyarlathotep 17:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any issues with him being an admin. Why don't you nominate him? Bawolff ☺☻ 21:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: deletion of Image:Ken.jpg

The undeletion of image is impossible (technically). Sorry for the inconvenience. The problem is this image was copyrighted by Forbes. The last version of description page follows:

{{speedydelete|Images comes from Forbes -- not GFDL}}

== Summary ==
{{Information
|Description=Canadian Kenneth Thompson
|Source=Forbes
|Date=June 14, 2006
|Author=Forbes
|Permission=Wikipedia
|other_versions=
}}

== Licensing ==
<s>GFDL-en</s>

I believe, you can find another photo of Kenneth Thompson, but please do not upload it to Commons UNLESS it is under free license. Copyrighted and fair use images are not acceptable. Thank you. -- Zirland

What SAS stands for

SAS stands for submit a story. It was our old way for new user to submit stories if they found the normal way to hard. They would add it to a page and then someone (often myself) would copy it to its own page. If the story was a press release or a copyvio, it would just be removed from the SAS page. The copyvio sas template was created to let people know what happened to their story.--Cspurrier 20:08, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, intreasting. My page is now 105 kib big... lets see how big it can go! Bawolff ☺☻ 20:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Anderson Picture

Yes. I got it from the depths of the SETI@home website. They just now deleted it? As I recall, I thought I sourced it. But I do not have time to look for it as I am on a computer at a cafe. But it is on the SETI@home website. Jason Safoutin 20:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll look into. Happy traveling. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay Duesentrieb told me that its from http://boinc.berkeley.edu/anderson/ now I just need to figure out the license. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The rest of the boinc website has the footer Copyright © 2006 University of California. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation. Would it be safe to assume that this license would extend to the page in question? R2b2 00:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

hmmm, That'd certainly make life easier. I'll email the guy as that seems the safest thing to do. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually it'd qualify as a publicity photo but GFDL is better then fair use. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Email sent

Thanks for the change

Thank you very very much from changing from that ridiculous SectionMenu to the new, refreshing Browse. —THIS IS MESSEDOCKER (TALK) 20:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. It was your idea afterall. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Time Warner and Turner Broadcasting to launch Cartoon Cartoon Network

Hi Bawolff - notice that this is the same IP that created All Wal-Mart Discount Stores are to become SuperCenters? Also, the Wikipedia article Cartoon Cartoons is currently tagged as "unverified or original research". I don't have time to investigate this, but I suspect a hoaxer. - Borofkin 04:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'll look into it. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

oups !

... we changed the title both ... i need some sleep, i let you fix Jacques Divol

help with image

is needed on Mauritanians vote for new constitution. the second image is broke. does it need to be moved to commons? can u? thanks. Doldrums 17:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

here [8]. and thanks again. Doldrums 17:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. <looking> Bawolff ☺☻ 17:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the support

Dear friend, i do appreciate your support in the situation with the article(http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Anarchists_clash_with_police_during_students%27_rallies_in_Athens) status (published or disputed?). It shouldn't be allowed to anybody who just visits Wikinews to make such changes, without a single excuse or explanation. Thanks. Zorba 00:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Stuff like that happens from time to time. The general rule is that if you have no actionable objections (or you don't voice them), you can't stop it from being published. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:37, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

IWWC

I have noticed that neither you nor Ral have been active as judges lately. Could you please tally up the jokers when you have the time. I am estimating there are 5-6 days left (if Jason doesn't return) -Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Whoops, totally forgot about that. Sorry. I'll tally it up. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:38, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem, to be honest I dont know if the 2 articles per day went through. After Ral said about it we were still running under the normal rules, so I assume not.

Ok, I'll count with normal rules. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Happy Canada Day!

Happy Canada Day! Template:Click-Inline Holidays promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others using Template:smile! Happy editing! FellowWikiNews

Happy Canada Day well tommorow anyways. FellowWikiNews 02:26, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Commons license

Hi, How do I add the right license to show it's a homemade image that I release to the public domain? Is it {{GFDL}}(self made)? and how would I add it to the image now? Neutralizer 13:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Return to editing footy portal :-)

I'm returning to start a new and improved football portal. :-D Spum 21:10, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

CommonsTicker: new version, new features

Hello. A new version of CommonsTicker will be rolled out soon (probably tomorrow). Please have an eye on what the bot is doing, and report any problems to m:User_talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker. Some of the changes are:

• the ticker can now post warnings to the talk page of articles that are using "endangered" images. This is not enabled per default, and you can select for which namespaces it is done. If you want this feature, please request it at m:User:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker#Change_Requests.
• in append mode, there are now three empty template parameters: status, editor, and notic. The ticker does not use them itself, but you can use them in the TickerEntry template, for example to strike through entries that have been fixed. en:wikinews has already been using this for a while now.
• if the ticker fails to post an update, a warning is posted to your and the ticker's talk page. In append mode, the ticker will also re-try to post the update on the next pass. Until now, failed updates where simply ignored.
• edit summaries become a bit more informative.

I hope these changes will help to make CommonsTicker more used and more useful.

On a related note: you may have noticed that on long pages, entries near the bottom of the page are sometimes not expanded but rendered just as {{TickerEntry}} or similar. This is due to a new limit to template expansion - see bugzilla:7005. To avoid it, try to keep the page short and/or try to simplify the TickerEntry template.

This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker -- CommonsTicker 23:20, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

RfC at Template:Source-science

Hi!

wow, impressive talkpage. Anyway, I would appreciate some comment on Template:Source-science which I've proposed, but so far nobody commented down by the water cooler (here)...

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Talk) 16:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm going for a length record (: (Or thats my coverstory, really I'm just to lazy to archive). I'm looking at your source thingy. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Thx for your improvements, looks a lot better that way. I didn't know that "strange and unusual template" :-). I know it won't get used a lot, maybe it would help if the edit window said: "All articles should be sourced using this [[Category:Citation templates|template]]...", with a wikilink to a more complete list of citation templates... Anyway I mainly created it to be able to use it myself :-) --Steven Fruitsmaak (Talk) 09:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Welome back.

... no bears got you, or perhaps the other way around! :) Edbrown05 03:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

thanks. Good to be back. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:34, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome. I'm not sure if you're Canadian or not but if you are (or have an interest in Canada) you may want to join Wikinews:WikiBureau Canada. Crimson 05:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Can you look at this?

Can you please take a look at Bodies of Afghan boy, Canadian soldier returned, there's a bit of a conflict on the talk page. Crimson 17:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Main Page Section Menu

Portal:Canada is a well-maintained portal. Is it okay if I add it to the Main Page Section Menu? FellowWikiNews (W) 21:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Good question, I have no clue. Originally I think it was meant for continents, and Australia was a lone exception. Now we're getting to the point with other well-maintained portals, and if we keep putting exceptions its going to turn into another Wikinews:SectionMenu or Wikinews:Browse. Perhaps it would be overall better just to go back to continents. I really don't know, try asking on the Water cooler, or main page talk, or template talk:MainPageSectionMenu (with flag). I'm really unsure. (Or you could just be bold and add it, and If anyone gets mad about it they can revert it. that might be easier to do.) Bawolff ☺☻ 21:22, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I already added it to the Main Page Section Menu. But, Dan100 deleted it. [9] FellowWikiNews (W) 23:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

RE:

Hi Bawolff,

First of all, I like reading your articles!

About my question, I was wondering if it's possible to arrange stories in order of importance. For example, at the top of the list today is "The Green Party of Canada to elect new leader", but surely a more significant piece of news like "Iran inaugurates heavy-water production plant" should be at the top. You may be thinking it's silly of me to say such a thing, but I know quite a few people who use Wikipedia, and they agree with me.

Thanks for your help, Mick.

Mick 21:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the tea! FellowWikiNews (W) 22:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the warm cuppa. Crimson 00:07, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Template talk again...

...here.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Talk) 14:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand your reply to my post over there, could you explain it some more? It's probably my English but I can't figure out what you're trying to say.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Talk) 22:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

stylesheet: some gratuitous opinion

i think the contrast b/w the white text background and the dark blue margins is too much. a slight blue-gray or blue-green background for text? Doldrums 06:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

hmm, I kinda like the contrast. I might try some different backgrounds later. Thanks for the opinion. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I misread your comment. I might try that, the problem is many templates are designed to work with white backgrounds (colored slightly offwhite, etc), I may try it though. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Stylesheet

Where can I see the old v. new stylesheets? On the links you provide I can only see the old??? maybe I am mistaken? Jason Safoutin 18:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Can you rephrase that? In firefox its view→Page Style→Datrio+MrM. By old do you mean standard monobook? Bawolff ☺☻ 23:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I got an e-mail from you about the redesigns you are doing...I recall seeing a layout for articles?? something [fancy... http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Custom_skin#Large_screenshots]. The so called "old version." I see the old but where's the new above it? :) I rather like the old one but the headline should fill the grey or blue space or have the "breaking news" across there. Jason Safoutin 00:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I would assume monobook...but for some reason in the past with the roll back button, before becoming an admin, I could not get it to work. But I also could have done it wrong. Jason Safoutin 00:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Nope, Wikinews:Custom skin is a seperate, dead project that I have nothing to do with. I Just propose changing the CSS. I could change the CSS for you to my version to show you what I mean if you want. (Also go on IRC to discuss too) Bawolff ☺☻ 00:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Aww dead? I was thinking of more along the lines of a regular use in articles...Would that be possible? Lets bring the dead to life ;) Jason Safoutin 00:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't have the necissary skills to develop that type of skin (also tried to get it to work on my own mediawiki install, but failed misrable. CSS for that is missing as well) I'd love to do that if I had a clue what I was doing on that front. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

And I have to admit as well I also have no clue how, or the tools to do it. I just think that the white background and same style just get kinda boring...is there any easier way to do it? Jason Safoutin 00:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

As for tools, its just php for that and you can do it in notepad, unfourtanatly I don't know PHP. Could I set your user account to use my CSS to show you what I mean for a CSS redesign? Bawolff ☺☻ 00:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: CSS

hi, will try it out. btw, there appears to be a glitch with the page footer (with the copyright notice, "Wikimedia" and "Mediawiki powered" thingies - its background turns white on mousover, and reverts to its normal translucant blue when the mouse is moved off (on Firefoxes old (1.0.7) and new (1.5.0.6)). Doldrums 04:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thats intentional. Should I kill the effect? Bawolff ☺☻ 18:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

oh? what is it for? Doldrums 09:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

To look cool (: Bawolff ☺☻ 21:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Great! Didn't know about those, glad to see they are already quite popular! --Fastfission 14:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

DPL

Yeah... but that doesn't seem to be the case, now does it? ;) irid:t 04:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Smart-1 probe ends 3 year mission by crashing into the Moon

Thanks! I was working on it till 4 O'clock in the morning. Yawn... Nice to know you like it :D --Errant 09:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews User Statistics Image

Hey Bawolff, NGerda here. The image was created by me from the Wikimedia official internal statistics data, so I'd assume it was fair game for Wikinews, but it really doesn't matter, since it's over a year old now. Best of luck to you! -- NGerda 06:37, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. If you created it from the statistics data, then its whatever license you choose for it, as only presentation can be copyrighted, not data (I think. IANAL don't quote me on that). So anyways, if you could tell me what license you would put that image under, that would be great. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:55, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Public Domain is fine.  :) -- NGerda 00:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

"Cat food"

Nice edit summary. —this is messedrocker (talk) 05:22, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

You know thats the second time I've done that, and someone's pointed it out. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Lol. I just noticed that now. —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 00:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		Barnstar
		For hardwork, building up numerous articles, going through doing the mindnumbing tasks, working hard on the wonderful new stylesheets, I give you this barnstar as a thanks. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 07:10, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

date template

good job!... now let's see what people have to say about it. Doldrums 12:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad you got my message!

I'll be seeing you around hopefully. :o) Rubikfreak 14:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Admin

Could you delete Extremely drug-resistant tuberculosis strain emerges in South Africa per copyvio, and replace it with the new Extremely drug-resistant tuberculosis strain emerges in South Africa/Temp? Thankyou!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

no problem. done. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I really hope you don't mind... think it was slowing computers like mine here, plus it took like forever to Show preview...--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, I don't mind. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Wikinews Canada Logo

Please make a better one because I didn't do a very good job. Mabie you can make a better one. FellowWikiNews (W) 20:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

ok

Sorry about article didn't know I had to use my own words.

Don't worry, Its your first article. Everything has to be original, if its not a quote. Happy editing, and good luck with your article. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

css

It was ok. One thing I could not stand though, is the repeated logo in the background. To tell you the truth, I come here very rarely, so I just removed it because I only wanted to try it. notafish }<';> 22:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay thanks for trying it. By the way, Datrio is basicly this minus the background. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

RFA

Just want to draw your attention to the current admin nomination vote. Crimson 21:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin Alert

Please visit this, there is a dispute that this user is webhosting his stuff. It says on top "THIS IS A SELF MADE SITE TO SHOW MY WEBPAGE". Anyways is there a wikinews template message in relevance to be placed in his page? Zer T 23:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Mathematics

You seem to be consistently misspelling "mathematics" as "mathamatics". The following pages need to be moved from Category:Mathamatics to Category:Mathematics:

• Distributed computing discovers largest known prime number
• Particle accelerator reveals long-lost writings of Archimedes
• Russian mathematician declines Fields Medal
• Singapore Exam Board sets mathematically-impossible question
• Two hundred digit number factored

And then, in my opinion, Category:Mathamatics should be deleted. - dcljr 23:31, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

<sticks nose in> articles in cat:mathamatics have been fixed. am nominating the category for deletion. Doldrums 08:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my spelling. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Doldrums' main page

hi, saw ur comment in the redesign page. have since then unhidden a leettle more. i'd appreciate it if u could take another look and comment (perhaps here). thanks :), Doldrums 08:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin vote

Thanks for supporting my successful admin nomination! I will try to live up to the confidence that's been shown in me. Crimson 17:17, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

RE: wireless talk thingy

I do, however, I don't know anywhere I can upload PNG files. If you can find a place, I will... Thunderhead(talk) 23:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[[Image:WirelessPNG.png]] There you go! Thunderhead(talk) 23:50, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Apologies

Hey Bawolff!

TimLee90 here, my apologies for violating wikinews policies. Thank you for informing me!

Don't worry, we all make mistakes. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Amgine can not de-admin himself

See this "Stewards are the only users who can remove administrator privileges." on the administrators' page. MrM wanted to be taken off the admin list and Eloquence said "No; not unless he was deadmined by the Stewards."70.50.76.118 00:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

No, you don't know what you are talking about. MrM wanted to hide that he was an admin, Amgine IS NOT AN ADMIN. Stewards removed his admin privs. you can go talk to them if you don't believe me. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Please be helpful and provide the link showing the Stewards stripped him of his authority. Messed and you have been wrong more often than not. 70.50.76.118 00:46, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit removal

NO! Cspurrier said edits must be left; see here where he put this personal attack back.[10]after someone removed it. 70.50.76.118 01:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

These are two different situations. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Block.

I have no problems with his block length being reduced, and agree that an indefinite ban might have been harsh. I do ask, however, that his user-page (the one on which he was spamming) not be undeleted. Thanks. PVJ^(Talk)_{(Articles I have written)} 07:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the user page being deleted is a good idea. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Categories on Commons

Would you mind sending me some cats on Commons? Thunderhead(talk) 21:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Although it does seem like i'd actually look at the main page. :P Thunderhead(talk) 01:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: Snow in Iraq

You know, I didn't really think about that. So much for my trust in Google. You would think that 'American Embassy in Iraq' would bring some reliable results. Let me see if I can find another. Thanks! Thunderhead(talk) 01:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I actually would never thought of that either, it was the anon that brought it up, then I noticed RCMP outside the building, and that just seemed odd. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:13, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

yep and the anon is the guy they keep blocking; me. 70.50.78.136 01:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Messedrocker is Amgine; here's the undisputable proof

[11] "...so I restored his talk page history and replaced it with a notice. —this is messedrocker [[User talk:Messedrocker|<font "

[12] [13]

Abba 12:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

And you are neutralizer as well as being full of it. Look at the dates. MessedRocker restored Amgine's page on the 5 (As noted by special:log/delete - put user talk:Amgine in the title there). Then 5 days later (on oct 10) Amgine screwed arround with his page, as he can do if he whishes. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:24, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

See my response on Eloquence's talk page. —this is messedrocker (talk) 23:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Radio

That was on MessedRocker's talk page. I knew about Wikinews Audio, but I didn't know if I could compile those or not. Thunderhead(talk) 03:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey Bawolff, thanks for the welcome message. I am indeed the same Khoikhoi from the English Wikipedia. Khoikhoi 02:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thats good. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Tamil wikinews

Bawolff, thanks for leaving message at my user page in tamil wikipedia. glad that u took steps for the prelaunch pahse of tamil wikinews..but i don see a mention of it in http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_language_pre-launch ?? - w:ta:user:ravidreams--82.139.86.83 08:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I actually don't know any tamil (or any other language for that matter other then english), so I can not start anything in the pre-launch phase as I don't know the language. I just put it there as its definitly ready to start translating stuff. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:Wikimania2007TaipeiBanner.jpg

Thanks Bawolff for your help on this image. However I'm not sure if Jerome Chen will agree to let this image to be fair used. I will call Jerome Chen by phone to have some double check for copyright issue later.--H.T. Chien / 眼鏡虎 (Discuss|Contributions) 16:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I think we're legally allowed to use any logo under fair use if its the logo of something thats the subject of a story. (IANAL, so I proablly don't know what I'm talking about.). I have also emailed him. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Anon

Thanks for letting me know. That was me, but it was one of my wireless IPs. Thunderhead(talk) 06:53, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, Just wanted to make sure that it was you. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the concern. Yep, then I edit alot from Lab at school, so I'll try to login @ school. Thunderhead(talk) 00:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: WN, WN:A

Sorry about that! Hey, worst that can happen is not get accepted, right? check WN:A Thunderhead(talk) 22:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I think you proabblly will. Best of luck. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll probably need it. I think I destroyed my fingernails when I tried for AR! :P Thunderhead(talk) 22:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

WN:AR is harder then WN:A. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

So I could tell. I'm glad though. My doctor advised me not to do WN:AR for a while. Thunderhead(talk) 22:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Football

I am interested in doing the "Today's Matches" section on the Football Portal. Ross-1 17:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. Basiclly what you have to do is just create a page for everyday, and what matches are on that day, and it will automaticlly rotate through them. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

In more details, what you have to do:

1. • Create a page of a date, like Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/1. Format:

   === [[Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/1|01, February 2006]] ===
   *Arsenal v West Ham, kick off at 20:00
   *Aston Villa v Chelsea, kick off at 19:45
   *Blackburn v Man Utd, kick off at 20:00
   *Liverpool v Birmingham, kick off at 20:00
   *Man City v Newcastle, kick off at 19:45
   *Portsmouth v Bolton, kick off at 19:45
   

   • So for today it would be on the page Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/October/19
   • If there is no games (e.g. Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/7) use format:

   ===[[Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/7|07, February 2005]]===
   No football games today.
   

2. • For days with games, transclude it into the month page
     • See Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February for example
   • Should use this format (note the artificial line doesn't need to be there as subpages has been enabled in Wikinews now.

   <noinclude><small>< [[Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006|2006]] | [[Portal:Football|Football]] </small><!-- artificial t'll its truly enabled --><br style="clear:both;" /></noinclude>
   ==[[Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February|February]]==
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/1}}
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/4}}
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/5}}
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/11}}
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/12}}
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/13}}
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/14}}
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/15}}
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/25}}
   {{Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006/February/26}}
   <!-- more to come -->
   <noinclude>
   [[Category:February 2006|F]]
   </noinclude>
   

3. Every year, make a new year page. see Portal:Football/Fixtures/2006 for details.
Note none of this is set in stone, If you think anything would be better another way, feel free to be bold and change it. This is just how its done before.Bawolff ☺☻ 22:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Oink?

Were you slightly ebrious when you posted this?

• user:Stevenfruitsmaak is an admin!!! He will weild the mop and bucket like it never has been before, we will enter a new age of enlightenment! [14]

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, now you know that people read it, and I promptly added it to my watchlist . I already added the word elsewhere in the wiktionary, but for your courtesy I've created, for the first time on wiktionary, a new entry: wikt:ebrious.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:04, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad your reading it. And to answer were original question, no. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Poll on Cat:Israel

Thank you for offering to cast a vote on my behalf. I have since been unblocked and have responded to the poll. PVJ^(Talk)_{(Articles I have written)} 03:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Mars rover engineers build test sandbox

Hi and sorry for late reply, I don't come here very often. I know it looks like a valid question, but this user has been leaving this message on many projects; see for instance fr.wikipedia, en.wikiversity, meta.wikimedia. He has also left it on Commons and en.wikipedia, but it's too difficult to search the logs. guillom 14:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

See also [15] --Cspurrier 18:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I've been told that about that by a number of people now. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Test-finished-newsroom

What is this for? Thunderhead(talk) 00:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

See Dragonfires recent edit summary, and talk page. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Alrighty. Mind putting Template:Nopublish so it won't show up in Developing Stories? Thunderhead(talk) 00:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Well the entire point was to have it show up in developing stories. Actually we could proablly delete it now. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take your word for it, administrator! Thunderhead(talk) 00:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: My CSS

Yep, that's what I was trying to do. Course I've always been bad at anything other than Wikicoding and Javascript. I've never really understood CSS. Thanks for your help. Thunderhead(talk) 01:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Glad I could help. I've always been bad at js (slowly learning), but love CSS. You know you can edit your Javascript at user:Thunderhead/monobook.js too. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:33, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Bawolff, Thank you for your comment on my recent RfA, which passed with a final tally of 6/2/2. This is a great achievement for me - and I cannot express what it means to me to become an administrator. If there is anything I can do to assist you in any way, don't hesitate to contact me! --Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 16:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome. congratulations. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

CSS

Your CSS file:

@import "http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bawolff/Sandbox/Datrio%2BMrM.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css";

I tried to use this, and It worked in the preview, but when I saved, it didn't. Mind being Tech. Support? Thunderhead(talk)^{(Check out my RFA test}) 00:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, it just kicked in. Great work! Thunderhead(talk)^{(Check out my RFA test}) 00:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Glad to hear your trying it - Also, theres a couple of other ones you can try as alternate style-sheets (In firefox View->page style->selection, in other browsers something else, in Internet explorer nothing 'cause IE sucks. might not work though if you have other stylesheets and stuff in special:mypage/monobook.css). Yeah you generally need to wait a while or do a hard refresh (ctrl+R depending on browser) to get it to work. So, what do you think? Bawolff ☺☻ 00:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Also check out Wikinews:Skins. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Awesome work! Everthing is great, except for the tabs, which are now capitalized. Good work on that, but it takes some getting used to. Thunderhead(talk)^{(Check out my RFA test}) 00:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Glad you like it. I personally never understood why the tabs were all lowercase - I always thought you capitilized the first letter on a title... but If you like it better lowercase, there is a line you can add to your monobook.css to make that happen. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Nah, I love your design, it just takes a while to get used to. Thunderhead(talk)^{(Check out my RFA test}) 00:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Glad you like it, but I can't take all of the credit. It was mostly pl:wikireporter:Datrio's and MrM's [16] work. I just put them together. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Wikinews capitilization in Mediawiki:Sidebar

How do I get capitalization in the sidebar when using IE? —FellowWikiNews (W) 02:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Basicly a slight variation on what you did. You added a different redesign/css thingy I did to your monobook (Thats also included in the stylesheet you need however as well. see User:Bawolff/Sandbox/MessedRocker based main page redesign. I added the correct one. do a hard refresh (ctrl+R . If using AWB then I don't know if that keystroke works or not).

Nice design! It just takes a while to get used to. FellowWikiNews (W) 02:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Glad you like it. know if only I could convince people to make it the default.... Bawolff ☺☻ 02:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Logo collage.png

Did Wikispecies change thier logo? I remember that there was a poll to change it from 3D to 2D. Thunderhead(talk)^{(Check out my RFA test}) 02:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes the collage is outdated. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: CSS

Absolutely not. Got for it! --Skenmy^{(t•c•w•i)} 19:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Baghdad story

Can the Baghdad story be published yet? Sugarpine 00:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

responded on articles talk page. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

AWN

Sure you can put the numbers on the front page, just need to set my alarm earlier so i can have enough time to record. terinjokes _{User Page} / ^Talk 03:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I guess I have to update it now :) If anyone wants to help out, please leave a message on my talk. terinjokes _{User Page} / ^Talk @ school

RE: Review

Hey, Bawollf. Thank you for the comments on my Peer Review, but what do you mean "this page"? Thunderhead(talk)^{(Check out my RFA test}) 21:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

speedy dpl

thanks for catching that! shld've looked myself, i guess.  — Doldrums(talk) 08:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Adminship thanks

Hi there! I'd like to thank you for your support to become an admin, it's greatly appreciated! -- Zanimum 14:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

google

Google ruined my life, because I was listed in their search results! I'm forever doomed! terinjokes _{User Page} / ^Talk 17:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

umm, okay. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The Cabal

Actually, I meant for that to seem like the "cabal" had marked that out. I have changed the link to Special:Cabal so that it is more clear. Thanks for the concern, though! Thunderhead(talk)^{(Check out my RFA test}) 08:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

What cabal? Bawolff ☺☻ 00:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. By the way, thanks for the island. It is freezing down here :) Thunderhead(talk)^{(Check out my RFA test}) 04:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome, Happy Birthday. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Ubuntu-ku.jpg

I answered your question regarding the picture in my talk page Towsonu2003 04:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Venezuelan Rally Photos

No, I received permission from the person who took them.

Okay. Could you Please put who you recieved permission from, their exact words, how you recieved it (EMail, in person written etc), and if the picture is avalible online, where online on the image description page. (What would also be really great is if you did this but that's a little complicated and not required, but it would make it so all wikimedia projects in all languages could use that picture) thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I am not the author I have had emails with him, and he didn't mind. I deleted the e-mail I cna e-mail him again if need be, but he is a busy blogger and might not check it for a while.

If you look at the articles's sources they are right there at as the bottom source.

Just delete it then, I know his e-mail, but he is extremely busy on the campaign trail and this is a small reason to bother him. If you still need the e-mail just ask me. The 13th 4postle

Revamp Main Page

I propose that the front page be revamped to display more articles at any one time and should displya categories like any news site. In order to sustain people's interest in the project, we need plenty of updates all the time and that featured main page stories be categorily arranged. Please check normal news sites such as googlenews for an idea on what I am saying. The revamp would include the following changed.

• More stories on the homepage.
• Bigger Picture for main story.
• News Categories
• Change title fonts back to Arial.
• Change logo to resemble Wikipedia's main logo.

Please discuss this matter. TownCrier 01:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Tea

thanks! i always enjoy a cuppa :)  — Doldrums(talk) 08:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of images

Hello Bawolff, sorry for troubling you. The google is not responsible for the copyrights. The uploader on picassaweb has their own copyrights. I have contacted the uploader, may be he could clarify the copyrights of the images. He claims the gallery as public album. May be they could use as in public domain once the uploader confirms the copyright. Regrads, Shyam ^(T/C) 08:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes google is not responsible for the copyrights in any way. its all the author. However public album definitly does not equal public domain. Could you perhaps forward me his responses to you contacting him? Thanks. User:Bawolff / 24.65.46.10 09:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Commons-I

Bawolff, I am not that guy. Yes, you are correct. Someone else is using my name to spam the commons mailing list. I did not subscribe the commons list, so I was not aware of it. Very thanks to you for letting me know. Could someone warn/ban that user? Shyam ^(T/C) 06:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure they already have. (I have no idea how that works on mailing lists). I just thought you proablly wanted to know what was happening. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

free culture

I replied with another link regarding Lessig's free culture on my talk page Towsonu2003 07:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

User notice: spam2

Excellent work with your Monobook file! I love the live spell check, and the templates at the top are perfect. We bow down to you, O Modifier! Thunderhead - (talk) 03:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. But it's impossible to put a live spell checker in css, you'd have to use JS for that. have you updated to Firefox 2 recently? Bawolff ☺☻ 01:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that I did, Bawolff. But I'm just telling you what I saw on the skin. Toolbar. 68.187.184.167 02:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Boy, I feel stupid for not adding {{WikimediaMention}} to the interview. I was caught up in the moment. Thunderhead - (talk) ^{Congrajulations to Kat!} 02:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry. Everyone always forgets that. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

On subject of modifications to the skin: Well, I didn't do it. Firefox 2 includes an inline spell checker. Whats on the toolbar? (I didn't notice anything new, so I'm curious as to what you are refering to). But thanks for the nice words. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

PD image

Image:1971 surrender.jpg may not be PD.  — Doldrums(talk) 07:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I could of sworn the version I read said PD. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas, Bawolff/archives! I have really enjoyed working with you this year, and I am honestly looking forward to another year just like it. Wikinews is a great community, and I am really excited to be a part of it. Again, Merry Christmas! Thunderhead

Thanks. Merry Christmas to you too. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

File:Santa arrest.JPG HO HO HO! These people got no presents from me this year.

FellowWikiNews is whishing thou a Merry very pegan Christmas , Seasons Greetings, Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, or whatever thou calls it, and realised they had purposefully forgotten about thou. This user is completely thoughtless, doesn't care about Season's Greetings, and therefore DEMANDS you have yourself a Merry Christmas... NOW! Failure to comply will result in going to jail with Santa. (Note: Santa is Satan spelt backwards)! Christmas Story (Children Friendly): So kids, is Santa Democrat or Republican??! Often depicted as an obese man wearing a tasteless red, ermine trimmed suit, Santa Claus is a self-employed Caucasian male who's been married to the same woman for several centuries. It appears likely that he is a churchgoer, insofar as he is a Catholic saint and a former bishop. It has to be assumed here that Claus was released from his vows, or else he would not have been married. Frequent arguments have erupted over the political affiliation of Claus. Ten years ago, Dick Cheney inadvertently dealt a savage blow to the morale of the Republican Party when he misidentified the political affiliation of Santa Claus in his best-selling book, Parliament of Whores. "Santa Claus," he said, "is a Democrat." However it is perfectly obvious from his demographic profile alone that Santa is in fact a Republican. This assessment is often rebutted by Democrats with Anne-McCaffery counter-analysis: Santa Claus has no children. High-achieving professionals without children trend Democratic. While the Clausian canon does not specifically address the issue of Santa's children, numerous extra-canonical sources suggest that Claus did, in fact, reproduce. Numerous Christmas TV movie specials alone support this point. Santa is renowned for an aggressive adherence to a binary naughty/nice list, which suggests an impatience for nuanced moral positions that betrays his Republican preferences. Santa's mere willingness to define individuals along a naughty/nice axis demonstrates his indifference to the philosophical stance of, say, The New York Times. And note that no canonical or extra-canonical Clausian text indicates that Santa ever attended college or, God forbid, graduate school. THE END!!! FellowWikiNews approves of this story.

I'm just going to say ummmm, to this. Merry Christmas Bawolff ☺☻ 21:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

P.S. What about Festivus (you seem to list every other holiday)? Bawolff ☺☻ 21:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

It's ok if you didn't think that it is funny. I got the story from w:Uncyclopedia, anyways. —FellowWikiNews (W) 21:40, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I think Santa is more likely a Liberal or an NDP. (he lives in Canada after all, despite whatever North Pole, Alaska may say.) (: Bawolff ☺☻ 23:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Do they even have polling stations in the North Pole? I think he would vote for Frosty the Snowman or mabie Mrs. Claus. lol. —FellowWikiNews (W) 02:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Special ballot. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:22, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas! Wishing you all the best for the forthcoming year. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 16:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Here's wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a happy New Year! Zeest^(Talk)_(Newpages) 03:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Merry Christmas to you too. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:20, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Temporary adminship

There was no sysop seeming to be present at this moment, so, after having seen vandal's contributions and his former blocks, in order to stop the vandal IP, I requested help on IRC channel #wikimedia-stewards (irc.freenode.net). One of the steward, knowing me well and being sure that I would clean everything in a few minutes, has chosen to give me temporary rights of sysop to help, as it happens sometimes for other projects when it's needed, and he removed those rights when it was no more necessary. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 04:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

okay, Just was wondering what was going on. Glad you were there. We've seen to have had a lot of vandals arround today and yesterday, and most of the regurals have not been here. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

P.S. you don't show up in that log when I put your name as the title. only when its set to all entries, I looked there and didn't see you. Really glad you were there. Thanks Bawolff ☺☻ 05:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes, when there are for example little waves (or "tsunamis"...) of spam or vandalism on "small" projects without sysops (and there are a lot), a steward can also give adminship for him/herself (after having created his own account, at this time where single user login is not ready), delete or revert what has to be and block who has to be, and then remove his/her temporary adminship. In another way, Anthere (steward and chair of Wikimedia Foundation) gave herself adminship on some French projects for working on the MediaWiki message about the current fundraising. The log of rights, on Meta-Wiki, is full of this kind of "technical" temporary adminships. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 14:22, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Kicked from IRC?

Why was I kicked from IRC? 65.78.87.120 05:37, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

image uploads

Thanks for the tip. I didn't see the particular licenses in the drop-down, so I went without. It wasn't even clear to me whether I should label them as the right CC or as Grant of License. Of if they would even be allowed past breaking period. - KeithTyler 20:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Well honsetly our image use polcy is very lax and allows almost anything under GoL (Unlike the drop-down menu), so I personally think the most important part is to make sure they're labeled. user:BAwolff

I'd appreciate your feedback:

on my latest post on WN:AW.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Terinjokes/AW.rss

Please convince my local RSS reader (erm, Opera) as well as some of the online RSS readers [17]]. They all display correctly (it is just raw text...)

I don't think Firefox will for text/x-wiki. (checking) Bawolff ☺☻ 17:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

well look at that, it worked. I swear that didn't work six months ago. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Still not the best practice to send things with a wrong mime type though. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Half the web still sends out the wrong MIME type for half the stuff they send... terinjokes | Talk | Come visit the WikiBistro 18:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps, but this is really thew wrong mime type. Not even remotely close to the correct one. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews contest

Hi, I believe you owe me a Gmail invite for my friend. But I cant think of any friends who don't have Gmail (and would use it). And if they wanted a Gmail invite then I probably already gave them one because I have a Gmail account already. So I don't really need your prize of a Gmail invite, sorry. --Nzgabriel | Talk 19:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

yeah I thought so. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Main page experiments test redesigns etc

Talks for the feedback on the audio and for rmv the cats, completely forgot about that: obviously the test wasn't very succesful...--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

CommonsTicker: Ticker Trouble

Hello

As you may have noticed, there have been some problems with CommonsTicker lately:

• first, the toolserver was down. After it was back up, we had to wait for fresh database dumps.
• also, many updates where failing because ticker pages where growing too large. Updates that went through half-way somtimes also caused entries to be posted multiple times, making the problem worse.
• when I tried to improve performance, I introduced a bug that caused the ticker to post trash sometimes. I disabled the ticker again when I was told about it, and I have fixed all effected pages yesterday (I hope I didn't miss any).

To sort this out completely, I have to rewrite parts of CommonsTicker. For now, I will enable the ticker again for most wikis, but not for the ones that where having most trouble - namely de-wikipedia, en-wikinews, eo-wikipedia, es-wikipedia, fr-wikipedia, ja-wikipedia, ru-wikipedia, simple-wikipedia and zh-wikipedia. I'll have to investigate those more closely.

So please keep an eye on CommonsTicker in the next days - if there is any more trouble, please tell me, preferrably on meta:User_talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker.

Regards -- meta:User:Duesentrieb 13:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker -- CommonsTicker 13:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

new here

I´m new here , can I ask why you reverted my edit?

Responded on your talk. Bawolff ☺☻ 09:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi

As you may know this wiki is being mismanaged and will have to be dismantled if it can't interwiki with the big sister. A new mainpage design hasn't been selected and most new members lose their resolve after one day, like me. Please let me know how we can go about sorting out the new main page and then we can talk about the sense of purpose. TownCrier 05:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I'm a little tired, so I might be misunderstanding you, but we play fine with Wikipedia, wikibooks, wikispecies etc. We obey all wikimedia global policies (that I am aware of). Weather its mismanaged is in the eye of the beholder, but it certainly isn't getting dis-mantelled anytime soon.

Anyway, in regards to the main page, well their have been some changes, and that has resolved quite a few peoples problems with it. Currently there is nothing so seriouslly wrong with it that so a new version would have to be significantly better to take over. All the centralized efforts to replace it have failed so far, but there is some that are no longer active but say what is needed in a main page. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Have you considered going on Wikinews chat. its a lot easier then talking on talk pages. (Avalible at web interface or #en.wikinews on irc.freenode.net on your favourite w:IRC client.

I would use the wikinews chat to generate interest but i don't want to do that. as it seems to me, less then 5% of members who opened accounts actually participate here because of the right with WP current. What is worse is that the readership level is much less than the editorial level in comparison to WP. This is what i meant with the lack of interwiki, they can't coexist, wikinews either has to be a template within WP, or WP current has to #R to WN. Its really very simple and this proposal was talked about with no consensus to its regard. I don't want to start a conversation in public talk when i don't know what response i will get, i want to start a lobby to bring to meta wiki to bring up these issues. about the main-page its not good, especially with the font choice for the headlines. the MPs of all WMF wikis need to look like the MPs of all the sister wikis, period. i think WN has a great future if it sorts out the interwiki issue as i put it above. Are you interested in joining the lobby? Sleep well. TownCrier 06:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, so you want all the wikimedia wiki's to be in one wiki, (like Uncyclopedia: and friends), or at least merge Wikipedia's current events. Well I disagree with you on quite a few points there. We are doing well in my opinion. Ever see Wikipedia in its early days? it was not anywhere near where it is now. We are currently just bit over two years old. We are doing well. If only 5% of people registering accounts here edit, you should see the number of accounts at wikipedia versus edits. As for chat, I don't mean to try and get support for your position (especially considering that this time of day only me and Doldrums are online) I just find it easier to understand what other people mean in an instant chat as oposed to a talk page chat. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. heres a previous discussion page, that might have some ideas on it if you're intreasted. Wikinews:Main Page redesign. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

newsletter idea

Hi, (I hope you don't mind this general message, I'm just randomly contacting people from my talk page)

I've had an idea after reading User:Kinnerc/WhereToWikinews? that might make people more aware of what's currently going on on this site, what discussions are being held, where help is needed etc. I've designed a little signpost-like box that I would like to introduce as a newsletter to post on user talk pages. Of course, the majority is copied from the Newsroom, which I think people don't visit often enough. Oh yeah, and the title should probably change :-D

I would appreciate some feedback on the idea, and also I'm interested to know if you would subscribe to such a newsletter. Please go to User_talk:Stevenfruitsmaak/Goings-on.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The Fruitsmaak Goings-on Selection

Wikinews community The Arbcom elections are ongoing. Please vote! Commentary pages have been removed again to improve the system, which met with little opposition so far. Archiving is behind since November! Brian McNeil wants some help, so I declare it the official Admin Backlog Collaboration to set this right! Get out your AWB and start archiving!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC) Update on RSS feed circulation: readership jumped from 5,500 to 21,000 on December 12 2006, and then increased again to 36,000 on December 20. Currently just over 30,000 readers access the RSS feed each day. Get writing, people are reading! Dan100 (Talk) 14:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC) Wikiversity's Journalism School is looking for contributers and instructors. stats are back. Wikinews seems to be more or less steadily increasing. However, the number of newbies is falling slightly. Current RfAs: None (Munchkinguy has withdrawn his RfA). Wikipedia news - Wikimedia news edit this

Collaboration requests Post new request International interviews/poll on climate warming U.S. President deploys National Guard members against immigration protests in Los Angeles. Flagged discussions Wikinews:Water cooler/technical/archives/2025/May Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous Wikinews:Water cooler/technical Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/archives/2024/September Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/archives/2024/June Talk:At least 20 die in Odesa in Russian missile strike, Ukraine reports Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/archives/2024/January Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2023/November Category talk:2016 UK EU referendum Category talk:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Talk:Belfast Talk:American Museum of Natural History removes statue of Theodore Roosevelt Template talk:Stale Talk:Main Page

Dan100 history

Dan made close to 20 edits on January 5. Now his edit history only shows three. What's up with that? -Edbrown05 03:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what your talking about. he has 29 by my count on his contrib page . Bawolff :-)(-: 04:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Please Bawollf link to Dan100's history page. I know sometimes my route to something is rendered differently than anothers. -Edbrown05 04:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes that happens to me too. :D .See messedRockers talk page (I have problems spelling that word, and I don't want to look it up again). Bawolff :-)(-: 04:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[18]

yes. try special:contributions/Dan100. Bawolff :-)(-: 04:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: UFOs

"However I just want to make sure I am correct in the assumption its not ready to publish." Very. we don't know how old the reported statements are. all we have is "some were made in recent moonths", so not sure this is news. plus i've raised npov concerns.  — Doldrums(talk) 06:51, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, just wanted to make sure. Bawolff :-)(-: 07:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh look I'm getting popular. 3 (at least) vandilizations of my page in about a week (And its the first three times too). Intreasting. Bawolff :-)(-: 07:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Well what do u expect, when you go against the vatican and ETs? :) btw, ur arbcom comment hasn't been signed.  — Doldrums(talk) 07:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Well that was the mumfum guy who did it last (presumably because I blocked him) and the guy before had no apparent reason that I can think of. oh well shows that we're growing as a site (:thanks for reminding me to sign. Bawolff :-)(-: 07:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Comments

Hi, I can't see the comments tabs at the moment, if they are there that is. --Nzgabriel | Talk 05:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Try doing a hard refresh (proablly ctrl+R depending on which browser you use) (I made a screw up with the JS, that sort of made everything in mediawiki:monobook.js stop working. (RSS, no main page title, comments alt stylesheets etc for a short period of time.[which makes me feel really stupid. for some reason when I edited it, it randomlly deleted some lines] ) you may still have it in your cache of your browser. user:Bawolff

copyright

dear Bawolff

this is not a simple copyright violation. I work at a newspaper and am perfectly capable of knowing about plagurism. Our newspaper pays the AAP (and reuters for that matter) to supply us with stories. these stories have no copyright if we have paid for them. we publish dozens of these stories everyday. I do have premission. Everyone at my newspaper does

thanks

Symode09 23:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

The Goings-on Selection

Welcome to the first edition of this fortnightly Community Newsletter! If you have comments, please voice them. If you no longer wish to receive this newsletter, you can unsubscribe. If you have news for the next edition, please submit it here.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews community The Arbcom elections are ongoing. Please vote! Commentary pages have been removed again to improve the system, which met with little opposition so far. Archiving is behind since November! Brian McNeil wants some help, so I declare it the official Admin Backlog Collaboration to set this right! Get out your AWB and start archiving!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC) Update on RSS feed circulation: readership jumped from 5,500 to 21,000 on December 12 2006, and then increased again to 36,000 on December 20. Currently just over 30,000 readers access the RSS feed each day. Get writing, people are reading! Dan100 (Talk) 14:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC) Wikiversity's Journalism School is looking for contributers and instructors. stats are back. Wikinews seems to be more or less steadily increasing. However, the number of newbies is falling slightly. Current RfAs: None (Munchkinguy has withdrawn his RfA). Wikipedia news - Wikimedia news edit this

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RE: Infoboxes

No problem at all! You mean the Template:Weather news infobox? Sure! Thunderhead - (talk) ^{Congrajulations to Kat!} 06:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

okay, good. Bawolff :-)(-: 23:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Your Wiki Check

Thunderhead                                                        January 16, 2007
123 Wikinews Ave.
Wikiwiki, WN 94541

PAY TO THE ORDER OF '''Bawolff'''                                  $1,000.00

IN THE AMOUNT OF '''One thousand dollars and 00/00 cents'''


Memo: '''©opyVio'''                           X ~~~~

Thunderhead - (talk) ^{Congrajulations to Kat!} 09:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I love recieving $1000 checks! However, I'm not really sure what this is for... Bawolff :-)(-: 23:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Remember the Copyright violation payment I owed FWN? I gave him $1,000 for the infrigement, and I'm basically bribing you... Thunderhead - (talk) ^{Congrajulations to Kat!} 23:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

copyright

I have spoken to my company lawyers and they essentially said that it was alright to publish stories as long as the company is paying a subscription however, to play it safe and to comply with some other overseas laws, the story should still be credited to the origional Journalist

thanks

Symode09 00:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

You are aware that by publishing it here, you are agreeing to let eny other website/newspaper/whoever to re-publish, and do whatever the crap they want with it, without paying for it? (just want to make sure) Bawolff :-)(-: 01:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

No seriously, I think we should get over the whole copyright thing, it is two difficult to be involved in this debate everythime I insert a story so, I shall just write it, it shouldn't be to hard

thanks anyway, it is mainly my fault I should have just given up because it is not worth it

Let's mov eon and focus on improving wikinews

thanks Symode09 06:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Philippines article

hi, can u take a look at Upcoming elections in the Philippines may be violent? needs some pov work i think, and have done my share of unpublishing and commenting (not actually editing, though:( ). would like to see some more views, thanks — Doldrums(talk) 07:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Prof shot in front of students and Philippine partylists announce nominees for upcoming elections are copied from a source which has a "Permission is granted to reprint or redistribute the articles, provided the author/s and Bulatlat are properly credited and notified.". i don't think the notif. requirement is compatible with our license. i sent an e-mail requesting permission and haven't got a reply yet. any ideas on what to do?  — Doldrums(talk) 09:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

hmmm, I geuss we'll have to remove the articles from wikinews, if they don't respond. I'm fairly certain that you're correct in saying that their license is incompatible because of notification. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

tabs

Oops, I just clicked on edit section and deleted the section. Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 11:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, I did a similiar thing too, a bit ago. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not making wrong informations

Hi Bawollf i see that you reverted my edits to the verison of the wrong ones and you could just use your and you could do good edits and the five edits. —Daisy's Gamer 00:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Series of earthquakes hit Korea, Indonesia, Turkey and Norway

In the page there only times on the clock on wiki means five and zero because it has the hand on the time line. —Daisy's Gamer 00:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply

I have replied to the message you left me on my talk page on my talk page here.

Image

Yes I took it. I work in Russell Square House (you can look it up on a map), my Camera is a Canon Powershot A300. If you would like proof that I work there, please email me using the "email this user" form. - w:en:User:Francis Tyers

wikipedia images

Are not always okay here. We have different policies then they do (Specificly, If the image is fiar use and from a news organization or blog, it is not okay, and everything needs to have a url on it if its from an online source). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I know :) I think you're talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dinkfuneral2.jpg - It's public domain as specified in its page... Towsonu2003 01:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

yes, And that one is okay, I just wanted to make sure you knew that as a general rule, that is not always the case. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

On a similiar note, Image:Masum.gif met speedy deletion criteria. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know / remember what that is. Towsonu2003 04:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

It was an image from an online newspaper. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

looks like some cops, poking at some dead guy on a bench or something like that. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:34, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes, that should be the pic for the pic for Turkish homeless man burns to death after being neglected -it was a breaking news item, than I just forgot about the pic... Towsonu2003 06:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Well we're on the subject of images, just to confirm, you took Image:Linux sreenshot.jpg yourself? (and if so, what theme was it using (specioficly a free or not free one)? and are there any proprity programs runing)? Bawolff ☺☻ 00:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

You're strict, aren't you :) No, it came either from commons.wikimedi or wikipedia... don't remember... keep in mind that

This is a screen shot. It is believed that screen shots may be exhibited on Wikimedia projects under the fair use provision of United States copyright law. Use of the screen shot here does not imply endorsement of the software by the Wikimedia Foundation, nor does it imply endorsement of the Wikimedia Foundation by the software authors.

thanks Towsonu2003 00:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

okay found it (w:Image:Linux sreenshot.jpg) . thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

wow good work :) I looked for it myself and couldn't find... Towsonu2003 00:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

lol. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Burlington map

I copyied the source info from Wikipedia. I guess they will have to change it to Crown copyright too. —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 01:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

yes, sometimes wikipedia lies. But the important thing is that its all sorted out (On wikinews, I can't make heads or tails about what your supposed to do with that on wikipedia). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Image HrantDink asassin

I have left a comment on the talk page here and would appriciate your help. Cheers --Markie 15:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

UFOs

i don't think UFOs belong as a Space topic, at best, this is partly true(meteorites) or disputed, at worst, simply appears to lend legitimacy to a what is labelled as a Pseudoscience topic on WP.  — Doldrums(talk) 20:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Well its (potentially crazy) people believing aliens are coming from space. It probably isn't true, but its directly linked with space. where else would you put it? Bawolff ☺☻ 20:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

sorry for the late response. i would do the following - use cat:UFO whenever there's a claim. add cat:Space to article if there's a suggestion/claim that the event is a astronomical one, use cat:wacky if it seems so. i would make subcat UFOs under Science/Tech - whatever the explanation for the event - it is going to be a natural or manmade event; rather than make it a subcat of Space - that wld be claiming that the explanation is of extraterrestrial origin. sounds good?  — Doldrums(talk) 04:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

ok, sounds good. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

template specialPublish

I see you are working ahead of the curve for sorting MainPage news stories from Portal pages. I am a bit of a stickler for naming conventions. I also believe that the 'Comment' tab suffered for a lack of a good naming convention. With certainly, some news stories will not make to the MainPage. The tag name to make that so must be suitable. -Edbrown05 09:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I am a little tired right now, so if I misinterpret something you say, please tell me. I'm assuming you mean specialPublish is a crappy name for the tag, which it is, but currently its not really used (as we're small enough, that every story needs to count), but if it is ever is, it should probably be renamed (if you feel like it, you can rename it now, just make sure to make everything in portal:quaker work). As far as the comment tab thing goes, that was one of the main issues with it, but its very hard to express the difference between discuss and comment (and add comment) in less then a sentence. Bawolff ☺☻ 09:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Smiling, and thinking too, that's all I had to say right now. -Edbrown05 09:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Sort of thinking Category:PortalNews is accurate, fair, and neutral. -Edbrown05 08:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

That sounds good, or maybe something like category:Local publish (to go along with category:Local only) maybe. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Local only news

Note the correct category for local news is category:Local only (ussually acompined with something like template:specialPublish). However I disagree with Discriminatory job ad by Central Bank of Turkey asks for men only being considered local only. I think, especially at this stage in wikinews development, that it is intreasting enough for a global audience. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to go about this. I added this "local" tag to it because of the discussions on having single non-english sources... so I used that local tag to show that that news item was not subject to the single source non-english issue... I don't want it to be seen as "local only, don't read it!". Rather I wanted to convey the message of "this is local, I can't find english source"... Here's the discussion I have been dealing with about foreign sources. Towsonu2003 09:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

hmm, somehow I don't think that will solve the underlying problem though (If its not english, no one else canread it, so they can't verify it). Bawolff ☺☻ 09:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Help?? Yes!

I was trying to make it work with an optional second parameter, but it didn't seem to work so I had to settle for a "name=" parameter. Could you make it work with just {{{2}}}? It should work I think, maybe I just didn't look hard enough... anyway works now too and is explained. I ocasionally try to show some template skills but usually reach my limits pretty fast :-D
--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

How's it look now (You need to purge the cache ( http://en.wikinews.org/w/title=template:commons&action=purge ) to make the template update if its included on its own page. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah yes... I refreshed but of course I should've purged... thank God for the computer-gifted! Thanks.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

your welcome, glad I could help. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:40, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Santa image

I found the source but I'm not sure about the copyright :( Please help... —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 17:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

sure, just I can't look at it today (just checking my messages right now, don't really have time to do anything at the moment). Bawolff ☺☻ 21:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, thanks for fixing these mistakes and leave-outs i've been making. It's 3:05 in the morning here, and honestly, my mind is cloudy. Haven't been getting much sleep latley with school and all. I'll try to be more aware in the future, and attempt to change my edit / sleep habits :) Thunderhead - (talk) 08:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Olympic rings.png

I honestly don't remember. Replace as desired. Ral315 (talk) 03:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

okay, thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

HELP

Please help me, O' Lord computer-gifted Bawolff. I was removing the deleted firefox image off User:RossKoepke's user page but I got a notice saying:

Spam protection filter
From Wikinews, the free news source you can write!
Jump to: navigation, search
The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to an external site. 

The following text is what triggered our spam filter: ross.servebeer.com

Return to Main Page.

I removed the links so I could remove the image but now it won't let me re-add the links. What should I do? —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 02:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

You can't reinsert it linked (without somehow getting it off the meta:spam blacklist), however you can replace it with ross__dot__servebeer__dot__com or something (if you omit the http:// it might work). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Briefs

ah! so that was the problem.  — Doldrums(talk) 07:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

btw, what do u think of the Shorts idea?  — Doldrums(talk) 07:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

RE: Bulladelah photo

Hey, I've added the email. Sam doesnt want his address published though. Cheers - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews RSS Feed

Thanks for your kind words about my rss feed. I was just getting to much dos on my rss and had to shut it down. Once I pulled the feed I was getting this every day.

Analysed requests from Thu-01-Feb-2007 00:00 to Fri-02-Feb-2007 00:47 (1.0 days). Total failed requests: 343,181

Happy editing to you as well Inic 05:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Appointment to Wikinews Arbitration Committee

To whom it may concern.

Following the elections of January 2007, the Wikinews Arbitration Committee Appointment Committee (WNARBCOMAPCO) hereby appoints you, Ma'am or Sir, to a seat on the Arbitration Committee (ARBCOM) for a term ending on January 31, 2008. The WNARBCOMAPCO congratulates you on your election to this esteemed committee and wishes you the best of luck for your tenure.

Yours sincerely,

--+Deprifry+ 03:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Head of the Wikinews Arbitration Committee Appointment Committee Board of Managing Directors (HOTWNARBCOMAPCOBOMD)

yipee, another year of being on the cabal, err, I mean arbcom. TINC! Bawolff ☺☻ 03:32, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

On a serious note. I wanted to say thank you for everyone who voted for me. I hope to continue to serve everyone well as an arbitrator. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:32, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

You deserved it! —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 03:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

thank you. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Downsizing

How long ago was this poll? Mabye time for a new one... Club2007 00:34, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

• Okay, I won't argue. I looked at the poll and there were only about 60 votes. Time for a re-vote?

TAGHeuer

Yeah sorry about that. To be honest i didn't check the source on 'peida so it's my fault and yes it should have been deleted. Thanks--Markie 12:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC) Also related to this i would like to upload http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Catania_violence.JPG from 'pedia but does "SkySport" count as a competing news source??--Markie 13:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that image would be allowed. That tv station does news too, and its proably from their news broadcast. 21:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Adultswimlogo.png

No problem, sorry about the confusion. I think I might also have found an image on Commons that could have superseeded (sp?) that. Can't remember the file name, though. --Thunderhead - (talk) 15:09, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I highly doubt that, as images like that are not really allowed on commons. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Soccer results/fixtures moderator

Hi

I saw you are in need of moderator for soccer results/fixtures section. I could provide you with (free) accurate XML feeds with results/fixtures for over 600 soccer competitions world wide.

Please contact me if you are interested: arjen@globalsportsmedia.com

I'm currently discussing this with someone. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Bawolff, have you already decided about this one? As said, we could embed our results/fixtures data for over 600 leagues inside Wikipedia.

"Shrinking Cities" Image

Thanks. --Elatanatari 19:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Do you know how to get the article on the Culture & Entertainment list of the North America Portal?

It is there currently. Usually you just add the two categories (category:North America, and Category:Culture and entertainment). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again.--Elatanatari 16:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Removal of title tag

Thanks for the title tag tip... it worked! :-) --user:jgladding

your welcome, glad I could help. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask (just not on w:Talk:Main Page as that's actually the wrong place) Bawolff ☺☻ 06:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

yeah, I figured as much, but I'm still learning Witiquette... it's so hard to follow all the "rules" around here. ;-)

yes, well around here (wikinews) its a lot simpler. On wikipedia its complex due to the extreme amount of people there. they have to have lots of rules, or stuff would become over-run. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

photos (animation) thingy

Good job with the photographer thingy for Annie awards. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Any sort of pre-planned event in a major metro area, I'm willing to try and get professional photographers to come out to it. I didn't expect many people would want to take pictures of people that are only famous within such a narrow community, but it's amazing how much interest that I got, just through a single Craigslist posting. -- Zanimum 16:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I just think that it is really cool. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

fur story

How does it qualify as an interview? Bawolff ☺☻ 03:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

See this revision - Zanimum was the person who decided to add that to the article. I'm not a regular at Wikinews, so I don't know what qualifies as an interview. It wasn't exactly one-on-one, but there were more board members than people attending the meeting. GreenReaper 04:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Well that's slightly pushing it, but I think its okay. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

p.s. do you want me to revert the crap on this page? Bawolff ☺☻ 03:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

It is history. Let it remain. :-) GreenReaper 04:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

GFDL images

can't be used, i take it. place a note to that effect on WN:IUP?  — Doldrums(talk) 07:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

WN:IUP is not reflective of current practices. The correct answer is they sort of can be used — Category:GFDL images. They should (in ideal world) be at commons. However they are allowed here because people got pissed at commons a while back, and its a slippery slope from there. Also by the same logic, we'd have to remove all CC-bY, PD CC-BY-SA, and other free images as well (which we should do eventually). Bawolff ☺☻ 07:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikinews talk:Image use policy. Actually I just made a post to commons-l, discussing how wikinews and commons have sort of drifted apart (IMHO) [19] Bawolff ☺☻ 07:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

hmmm...i still haven't figured out the answer to the question i has in mind - whether i can use Image:Al aqsa moschee 2.jpg (GFDL licensed on Commons) in the Al Aqsa mosque article, there does exist a CC alternative - Image:Al_Aksa_Mosque,_Mount_of_Olives.jpg.  — Doldrums(talk) 07:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yes you could use it. We can use a lot of variations in image licenses, we just can't use GFDL text in the article. Anything on Commons we can use (unless it has a speedy delete template on it, then it ight not be okay) Bawolff ☺☻ 08:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

thanks, will do. (note to self: ask the right question to get the right answer.)  — Doldrums(talk) 08:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Images

If you look at the history of these pages i didnt actually add the licenses as i admit they confuse the hell out of me but Doldrums added the licensing info for me. I don't add licensing ifo because im never sure which it is so i leave it to others such as Doldrums. Any chance of a simple guide to which one to use. Also please feel free to change the licensing to the right one as i have no idea about them.

Thanks--Markie 10:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Accredidation

No need. I should be thanking you for spuring me to figure out how that worked. Thanks--Elatanatari 02:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

By the way, if you want a better edit counter, try http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits (gives you a bit extra info, for example here's mine) (slightly outdated (about a month) for the english wikipedia, everything else is about a day and a half behind). Bawolff ☺☻ 03:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Missourced images

Image:Hospitality Club - Brussels 2004 meeting.JPG and Image:Hospitality Club - Monnai camp 2005.jpg were both taken from [20] (which unfortunately is now answering 403) along with the licence text that I put under the photos. The authors (which I both know personally) have given their consent that the photos be used in the context of a news story but retain copyrights. From there on you know the policies better than I and it's up to you whether you keep or delete them. --70.80.2.41 04:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC) (w:User:Valmi)

Thankyou for responding. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

images, images

are the images here and here fair game? the copyright statement is a restricted one.  — Doldrums(talk) 11:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

found (and used) from here instead: [21].  — Doldrums(talk) 12:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

They're (all of them) are probably okay as fair use - publicity (but free-er images are preferred if available). Try clicking on the validate xhtml link at the bottom of the first site you linked. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that, wrong pic.--Elatanatari 19:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

renaming ok?

is this way out of line:

• 11:34, 12 February 2007 Doldrums (Talk | contribs | block) Disgraced Ted Haggard paid settlement and will leave area moved to 'Completely heterosexual' Ted Haggard reaches financial settlement with church (so sue me.)

original headline aws considered pov.  — Doldrums(talk) 06:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Umm, if its in quote marks I think it'd be okay. I'm not really sure though. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Browse

cool idea! second no-brainer we shld've thought of long back. (but then they're all no-brainers in retrospect :). why does the globe appear lopsided though? is this more insiduous anglo-american pov at work? :P If recreating this on another image is not too difficult, then we could do it with a larger image and a plain map/globe instead of the wikinews one. — Doldrums(talk) 06:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Its fairly easy to do. see http://tools.wikimedia.de/~dapete/ImageMapEdit/ImageMapEdit.html?en for an easy way to make them. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Archive?

Wow Bawolff... your talk page is getting quite long. Mabie it is time to archive? —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 00:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I was actually thinking about doing that. (Its going to happen soon). Bawolff ☺☻ 00:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

re: interwiki templates

interwiki templates

its great that your trying to improve stuff, but could you say on the talk pages what exactly they do? Bawolff ☺☻ 05:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

note I read the page on 'pedia, and I am still very confused as to what they do. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry didn't see this. Try W:Wikipedia:WikiProject template sharing and if that (draft status--will move to Meta when finished) doesn't ease your pain, drop me an email. (Fabartus --at-- comcast dot net) Gotta run! I was going to bed over an hour ago. Ha! //FrankB 06:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

ok. My main concern was that some of these seemed useless, but I was lumping it together with some other very useless stuff. Now I see this is separate, and quite probably useful [or at the very least they are not hurting anyone], so anyways, carry on. Also don't forget that if any of these templates were edited by people other then yourself, that you need to have correct copyright permissions. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Stupid bots

Well, the page you showed me was only created once along with User talk:FellowWikiNews/Guestbook/w/index.php?title=User:FellowWikiNews/Guestbook/w/index.php and User talk:FellowWikiNews/w/index.php?title=User:FellowWikiNews/w/index.php. The ips that are creating these pages are probably bots. So, yes... In this case I would add them to protected deletions. —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 23:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually I don't think its bots. Why would someone make a bot to do that. Maybe a broken browser or something like that. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

see: [22] —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 23:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Protected Deletions: Cascading Option

Wonderful idea! This'll certainly help our procedures, and prevent further vandalisim. --Thunderhead - (talk) 00:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

yeah I stole it from 'pedia. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:03, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Eh. Credit where credit is due. Good job taking that idea ;) --Thunderhead - (talk) 04:02, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. One thing I didn't manage to steal though is how they make their warning in wikipedia, the warning one you try to edit a page is much better then ours for cascading protected deletion. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

It's a MediaWiki notice. See here to edit it. Wikipedia's should be here. --Thunderhead - (talk) 19:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

oh, I see, they use phaser functions to figure out why its protected. I was wondering how they did it without doing it for all cascaded protections. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Front page tweak

I'm very glad you think Wikinews' best deserves a front-line link. However, I noticed the "help" link on the front page now flows onto a second line on 1024x786. Might I suggest changing the text "Help with Breaking News" to "Report Breaking News"? This appears to fix the problem in both IE and Firefox. GreenReaper 06:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. I'm using 1280x1024. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

So am I! I just got used to trying things out 1024 as well, because I know a lot of users are still stuck on it, and they complain at me if it doesn't work. ;-) WikiFur's top 5 are 1024x768 (47.32%), 1280x1024 (19.68%), 1280x800 (8.33%), 800x600 (6.53%) and 1152x864 (4.59%) - I'm guessing it's at least roughly the same for here). GreenReaper 06:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Reply

I have replied to your question on my talk page here. Thanks for getting in touch. --Nzgabriel | Talk 08:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Bawolff,

Thanks for the heads up! I'll register an account when I get a chance to.

12.227.160.225 02:24, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

your welcome. By the way, if you're interested in css, and you're using firefox or opera you can also check out are alternative style sheets. (view→page style→selection). Theres also some other options in special:preferences for registered users. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Arizona Mortgage

I actually was not finished with the "Arizona Mortgages" article and was trying to unsubmit it. I had accidentally clicked to submit. Is there a way I could continue to edit it and then finally submit it later? --Diovi

[responded on your talk]. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Images discussion

Where is the discussion taking place?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 17:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Be specific, which image. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

tigger image ( Image:Tigger looses stripes.jpg )

The source is nbc. Even though there is no alternative, I don't think we're allowed to use it as it comes from a competing news source. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I could source it to the raw, unedited clip on YouTube. It was originally reported by a Fox affiliate, and most papers haven't credited it to anybody. It was also used as police evidence in the case. -- Zanimum 18:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I geuss that's okay. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Soccer Portal

Hi there, I am interested in being the maintainer for the soccer portal here on Wikinews. I would be able to update it at least three times a week with current info on games around the world. Please get back to me, i would be glad to help out Wikinews in any way i could.
Dark Squall 19:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi there, i have a query pretaining to the portal. Every time i create the "Todays Matches" pages, must i cite the sources? all my sources are the same, so is there a way i cant just leave them out of the individual files, and have some sort of generalized source thing somewhere? thank youDark Squall 17:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Umm, I don't think so as its really just common information. Perhaps you should ask on the water cooler. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey there mate, i was just wondering about editing other things on the portal, such as the top news story. I tried looking in editing, but it only says "News lead" or something in those funky brackets {}. I'd just like to change the story to something more recent than Germany and Cyprus tying...Thanks :)Dark Squall 19:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

{{foo}} means to include stuff from other pages. So to edit the lead, edit Template:Football main leads. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi

thanks for the hello, I added comments to two Jehovah's WItnesses blood transfusion articles talk pages. George m 23:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I will keep an eye out for any new JW articles and try to give input on our view(s) thanks. George m 23:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Glad to hear that. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Prodi's reisgnation

I answered you on Talk:Italy: President Napolitano dismisses Prodi's resignation. --Panairjdde 23:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Please review

If you have time: Talk:In_depth:_XM_and_Sirius_merger. I can't figure out how to get this story off the Newsroom.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

spot of OR

care for a spot of OR on this?  — Doldrums(talk) 14:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Well it all seem pretty well sourced to me. Theres a link after pretty much every statement. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

there're some interviews to be done.  — Doldrums(talk) 05:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Quickest Protection Yet

Wow ... you got Template:Office within the minuite. Nice work on RC :) --Thunderhead - (talk) 04:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Just happened to hit refresh at the right time. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Or did I just happen to hit save at just the right time? --Thunderhead - (talk) 05:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Ooooh.... pretty buttons....

you deserved it. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

OS &CU

After the mild debate on ALERT, I have been bold and proposed this could you please have a look over, and sign if you agree Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 10:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

NZ crown

Ok cheers for that - thanks.--MarkieTalk 13:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Contents Bar

Hey there, im wondering if there is a way to make a page so a contents bar will not be created. thank you—Dark Squall 00:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Not a 100% sure what you mean by contents bar, but if you mean table of contents, try writing __NOTOC__ anywhere on the page (traditionally near the bottom with the categories). See m:Help:Magic Words#Magic_words_between_double_underscores for more information. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for not explaining it properly, my fault. You got it correct here, the notoc worked, thanks alot mate. If you would like to see what im working in, check out the soccer portal and look at the links directly below the banner (click the blue one obviously :P)—Dark Squall 01:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Glad i could help. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Alan Johnston picture...

Could you please wait on the deletion of the image of Alan Johnston. I am going to contact the BBC, through foi@bbc.co.uk. I will be absent from Thursday evening until Monday, so could you please wait until then?

Cheers,

Booksworm 06:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Little too late now, but if you can successfully get permission, I will make sure it gets restored. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

About Wikinews

Hi Bawolff -- I saw your comment on my blog. My first reaction was to respond in hope of eliciting information about how to "manage" those folks. However, it took me only a few brief moments to realize that the Wikinews community is not well known to other groups contributing to Wikimedia projects. (Well, okay: not well known to people in en.wikipedia like yours truly.) Any thought about writing something to introduce Wikinews to the rest of us? I know the folks behind the Signpost are always looking for material. -- en:llywrch 17:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

that is a idea, put a report in the signpost Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 19:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I would certainly be willing to assist in such an effort, however I think for something like that should be made by the community as a whole. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

RE: Alledgedly...

Glad you liked it. I actually set that up as a varient to use on April 1st. You see, I'm going to replace the Mediawiki default version of the Main Page, so when users visit http://en.wikinews.org, they'll be redirected to the Alleged Main Page. This'll maintain all the vital information, while adding a ... twist. :)  Thunderhead  ►  00:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Basketball issues template

You rock. Any chance I could coerce...er...convince you to create a baseball template in the same manner? :)-- Theirishpianist 01:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

sorry, I sort of have to go right now, and unfortunately I'll be away for the next couple of days, but one I get back sure. (assuming nobody's beat me too it). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Dynamic content

When you have some time can you look into why the dynamic content on the front page is all showing expanded. I don't know if that is a css or javascript problem, or a combination of the two. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Looking. last time this happened it was a js problem. Seeing as alt stylesheets, and rss link also stopped, probably js. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed there was a missing /* when the comment tab code was inserted. you will need to do a hard refresh. (ctrl+r in Firefox). Bawolff ☺☻ 22:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• ctrl+r also works in IE. —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 02:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

comment tab on talk:main page

I had to delete Talk:Main Page/Comments. Could you please remove it from talk:main page? Thanks. —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 02:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually just (hopefully) did that. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

thanks. —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 02:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Punctuation

Hi, on the header of the "Add a new opinion" pages, there should not be an apostrophe in the "use it's normal talk page" text. I haven't a clue what or where that template is so can't fix it myself! Dan100 (Talk) 22:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I always seem to mix those up. the template is at Wikinews:Commentary pages on news events/intro. You can tell by the &editintro=Wikinews:Commentary_pages_on_news_events/intro in the url. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Cat:Social sciences...

...was deleted some time ago... Would you be able to think of a better name for this category? Note that we already have Category:Society.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't think of any. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews:Commentary pages on news events

I am trying to leave comments on many articles, just to try and see if the system works, and try and encourage other users to use them ;) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 23:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Quebec veils story

Your spiderman comment inspired me to create something: Image:Spiderman joke.jpg. Enjoy :) —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 00:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you that's great. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 00:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

help please.

Hope the move works better this time, but can you check tis one to be on the safe side?

UK sources say British sailors detained by Iran to be tried for "espionage"/Comment

maybe no need as the page was epmpty? international 19:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

You only need to do it if the page exists. If it doesn't exist, don't worry about moving it. Perhaps we should get a bot for this. Its going to cause lots of confussion. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

RE Deletion

Its a talk page with no article to go with it.?.?.? DragonFire1024 05:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually it does, sort of. See Wikinews:Commentary pages on news events. Javascript isn't anywhere near perfect yet, so it just appears that it doesn't have an article. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed that when the actual talk page was created. Just so used to non existent talk pages referring to a web page which turn out to be spam. DragonFire1024 08:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

WN:IB

nice, ok im working on it, but how do we set it so that the middle column always centers the infoboxes? the infoboxes are aligned to the right side of the middle column, not the center hehe (:O) Nima Baghaei 16:36, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you can (eaily), as the infobox is coded to float to the left. Good work with the infoboxes Bawolff ☺☻ 21:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

comment tabs

Hey Bawolff. Could you make the comment tabs red when they have no comments and blue when they do have comments? Or could you put "Add opinion" when they have no comments and "View opinions" when they do have comments? I think it would make more sense to do this. —FellowWikiNewsie (sign here!) 23:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes it would. Unfourtanatly that is way beyond my js skills. It might be possible by adding a #ifexist to the publish template, but I don't know if that's a good idea (well actually it might be okay. unsure). It also could be done by making javascript that tries to access the comment page to see if it exists, but that also is not a good idea, because it effectively doubles the number of hits (Really bad idea, and also beyond my skill level). I think first thing I should figure out how to do is to make the comment/article tab link back to the proper place when pressing article/discussion. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Mediawiki:Sitenotice

Does that belong in the Sitenotice? I figured it was important enough that the community should know. Cheers,  Thunderhead  ►  00:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ugh, badness. (I think its well intentioned, but not good for wikinews (Good for other projects), and contradictory to our current image policy) Its good for pretty much every other project) Yes probably it should be there. That's going to be a big job. (somewhere between about 2000 images (out of 2500) (on a stricter reading) to every image improperly tagged, and everything tagged with {{pgol}} {{gol image}} {{non-com}} {{cc-by-nd-2.5}} {{Cc-by-nc-sa-2.0}} {{Cc-by-nd-2.0}} on a more interpitave reading of that policy. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, 2500 images... then removing them from articles ... uuuughhhh...  Thunderhead  ►  01:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

no, just 2000 i think. theres a good 500 okay ones. We should wait before deleting anything but really obvious, images, just to make sure i read it right. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Still, it's gonna be a huge job. I haven't really studied the new policy, I just saw "New image policy" on the Foundation's site, and I jumped on it.  Thunderhead  ►  01:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Well at least we have a year, so we can hopefully fix most of them. It might be much less if we don't need to create individual arguments for their use. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

My Images

I am against the new policy. My images were uploaded before it took affect therefore should not be affected. As the copyright holder, I have the right to choose what license I want to use and I was given the choice to use that particular license. If they did not want images with that license, then they should not have given me the option to do so. I have already stated that if a liscense like the current one is not available, I will delete my images before they need to be. Many of my images are 100% exclusive to Wikinews and not anywhere else. If they are not on here then I don't want them anywhere including commons. I refuse to have my images, if not required to be on commons.

I also believe that this is why this policy was enacted, without the community's approval as such policies are supposed to be and because commons is jealous that some content is not on their Wiki. Tough luck, maybe if they changed their attitude I may reconsider.

As to this image, here is what the articles author said: [23]. I was not sure what license to use as she said its not copyrighted. DragonFire1024 00:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)::I agree with you (about not applying to retroactive images, and you having a choice as to how to license them, which is entirely your own, However commons being jealous is unlikely in my opinion. I think the push came from the english wikipedia, and general free media advocates in wikimedia [many of whom are commoners] It doesn't help commons any). As far as the image in question goes, sorry I forgot to check the talk page, my fault. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem...it probably should be on commons, but at the time I had no time and just did it quickly.

Thanks for agreeing with me in that matter. Im sorry it's just that this is where I want MY content to be. I could go as far as saying: Maybe Indymedia might like it better? DragonFire1024 03:50, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

ok. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I understood what you meant...all my images were uploaded before this even came into effect. DragonFire1024 04:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Ads

Not really sure, they are uploaded locally on 'pedia and some/one of them are screen shots of wikipeida therefore not fair use (as it is now - can't understand the new jargon) so uploaded them locally here. If you think that they can go on commons then i will move them - it's just ive only ever uploaded one or two pics to commons and i think they've both been deleted. --MarkTalk 08:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

oh yeah, forgot about that image. still you say they're ok here. i presume thats until this new policy is introduced yeah?--MarkTalk 15:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

No, the new policy has nothing to do with what we are talking about and won't affect it. (however are old policy does, but no one follows that anyways). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Right so it doesnt come under the "EDP" whatever that is then? SO i could move these to commons and try my luck with them (see how fast they can delete them).--MarkTalk 19:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

No, EDP is just a fancy word for policy for stuff to do with fair use in USA, fair dealing in coomonwealth nations. I'll watch the images there to make sure they arn't deleted. Also make sure you add them to a category (you'd have to make a new one) such as Wikimedia ads. For pd ones use tag {{pd-user-w|en|w|Qxz}} for screenshot can't remember exact tag but put

This work is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or any later version. This work is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose. See version 2 and version 3 of the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin St, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA

on it.</nowiki> Bawolff ☺☻ 19:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Right thanks for this - lets see how it goes!--MarkTalk 20:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Right there uploaded and have been for over 5 mins (success) - dont think there tagged correctly but my commons knowledge is not too good. If you have a spare moment could you check them please. Contribs are here. Cheers --MarkTalk 20:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I fixed the tags. they should be good. They are all on my watchlist, so if anything happens I should know. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Hi! Andrevan 07:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

hello. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

About Italian Wikipedia separates from Wikimedia Foundation

I can confirm it was a joke: I wrote about it in Wikinews irc-chan, adding that I would have asked to someone to write a joke similar to La Wikipedia in lingua italiana decide di forkare. ^_^ Ciao! --Tooby 16:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

ok. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

re: issue you noticed with comments

Speaking from my experience, it seems that anonymous IP users are not presented with the new 'view opinions' tab, so therefore cannot participate unless they have a user account. However, it is possible to post anonymously, i.e. here and other 'view opinion' pages. I would think that unlogged users would be able to see the comment pages.

What we have with the 'discussion' tab is red text if no content exists in the tab. That is not the case with the 'view opinions' tab, it is blue by default (so checking it may lead to a page that has no content, which is a waste of time). Also, once loading the page 'view opinions' the 'article' tab appears in red text. If you click the red text 'article' tab, it loads a page with no content.

This what I meant when saying earlier that, "The click stream is wrong." My browser is MSN v.9.

I am encouraged by the little bit of use the interface is getting. Best regards -Edbrown05 00:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh I thought you meant something else. Not sure what you're talking about with anons, they should have the same tabs we do. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Javascript

I've been having a hack at the dynamic sections javascript. Mainly because I'd like to fix an annoying feature of having the topical section boxes on the main page.

Essentially I want to duplicate the ability to show/hide a section, but if you show one section any other open ones are collapsed.

If you can suggest any tools to debug javascript with (Windows based) then I'll have another crack at it. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 10:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I just got back, so I have a lot to look at at the moment, but I'll try to have a peak at that soon (peek might not be very sucessful though, as I'm quite new to javascript). As for debug tools, I've never used it, but firebug is supposed to be good (requires firefox). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I've got Firebug now, but I think to do this myself I'd need to go learn Javascript. My level with it at the moment is I can read and understand some but not all. However, I've been pestering lots of people for this feature. :-) --Brian McNeil / ^talk 19:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Video Edition

Hey Bawolff,

I saw you commented on he idea of having wikinews video. I have created a really good opener (the audio is from sky news UK/Australia)

I spent heaps of time on the graphics so, drop me a line on my talk page and tell me what you think.

The video is located at http://www.symode09.spaces.live.com/

thanx

--Symode09 07:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

One last question, with the graphics (ticker clock etc), would you like them with corners and square (more traditional) or curved and round (my preference but, some people don't like these types of graphics)?

--Symode09 09:09, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Just watched. Looks nice. I'm unsure about the graphics (round vs square) thing though. Can you shome an example? Bawolff ☺☻ 19:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Video Wikinews

Hey Bawloff,

I see you are interested in the video wikinews. You might want to "enlist" with us.

thanx :P

—Symode09 14:09, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

AWB

I see that you've granted AWB requests in the past. I'd like to ask you to begin watching this page, which is where new AWB requests should go. Thanks!  Thunderhead  ►  20:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Watching, but I never use my watchlist on this project. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Template: 2007 Stanley Cup Playoffs

That's great. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. --wjmoore 01:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome, glad I could help. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Background

Hi Bawolff. May I please ask for your assistance with Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Background. I am requesting the background of Wikinews to become the standard "grey-gradient" (see [24] or [25]). Can this be fixed, as soon as possible, as at current there is no easy distinction for the eye, for where there is a background or a news article. Also, all other wiki sites use the "grey-gradient" as default, so this will add a bit of consistancy. Thanks. Stickeylabel 10:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

wikiversity

see: [26] [27] (wikinews is listed there with an update) DragonFire1024 17:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey Bawolff,

You might wanna see the poll (and my latest comment) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Poll:_Allow_an_embedded_Player%3F

thanx--Symode09 01:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes I saw. I'm watching the live RC on IRC. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

zappd comments?

What happened, is the opinions/comments tab "out" again? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Edbrown05 (talk • contribs)

nope, they are still there. I do plan to remove them at the end of this month through. We I readded them; I planned it as a test. I would like to see community support (even if that means a poll) to keep them in. (and I would support keeping them, but I feel it’s good to follow procedure like this) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 06:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Well the reason that I asked is because the 'view opinions' tab on the Jimbo Wales to lead development of 'code of conduct' for bloggers at one time did contain content. Now it is empty. How could that be possible? -Edbrown05 06:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Because, who ever moved that article, did not move the comments page as well. (see Talk:Jimbo Wales to create 'code of conduct' for bloggers and the Wikimedia Foundation/Comments Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 06:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Fixed Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 06:48, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

No, it is not "fixed" (what a monster that coding must be). -Edbrown05 06:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, its fixed. It is not a coding issue. Eloquence moved the article. However he did not move the Comment's page at the same time. Despite the clear instructions, to move Comments pages as well. Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 06:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I can certainly forgive Eoquence of that. I did not know you had to manually move the 'Comments' page (now I do, thanks). You do not have to manually move the 'Talk' page, it happens by default when you 'Rename' an article.

You make mention of procedure. I understand there is some disagreement or even controvery surrounding the 'add opinion' tab. How would that issue be settled? -Edbrown05 07:04, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that is one fault we having Comments in JS. (After a page move, there is a part saying that if this link is blue, you need no move that page as well, however)

I am suggesting we have a poll at the end of this month. Along the lines of "Do you support the continuation of the Comments” etc Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 07:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Couldn't we submit a request to bugzilla to have a new namespace created as a sub of the main, so that it would be automatically moved?  Thunderhead  ►  07:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I support the idea of having comments, and as Thunderhead says it should be a namespace that is linked to Main. You should be able to have a link to the page, [[Comment:PAGENAME|Comment or leave your opinion on this story]], and no need to worry about page moves there either. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 07:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I too think the new ns would be a good idea. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:59, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Video content

See here, can we have the Java player like commons does? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

After testing it, apperently not. I'm sure if you asked commons:User:Gmaxwell he'd be able to make it so you could. why do we need the java player locally anyways? Bawolff ☺☻ 16:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Spelling Conventions

Hi, I have a question regarding spelling conventions. What is standard practice in choosing between AMerican style and English style English. I'm looking atHorse_racing:_Silver_Birch_wins_the_2007_Grand_National. specifically the word "favourite" would it be appropiate for me to change it to "favorite" or keep it how it is? Thanks? Ycanneh 21:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Umm i think it was we use the variant of whoever started the article. So if it started with British English, we do the article as British en, if it started as en-us, we keep it at that. see WN:SG#Spelling for more details. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Ycanneh 21:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: heads up

If you mean Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Planet osiris, I already had my say there.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: No to NHL on Front Page

Who were you addressing about the soccer/football tournament? The user with the IP address or me? Or were you just bringing it to my attention? I did see the comment on the main talk page. I don't think that there are any big soccer tournaments going on now anyway... . --wjmoore 02:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

The ip. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:12, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

bold edit

yeah, I thought @import had something to do with it. but i changed my and and removed it, as I knew it would be opposed :) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 03:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, i wish i was bold when it was first created and added it, now thier are too many people who I know dislike it to justify adding it (in my mind at least). Bawolff ☺☻ 03:14, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Yep, agreed. What ever happens, I'll be sticking to using it. As not only (imo) is it nice, it is easier to read as well. Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 03:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

javascript

Try user:Ycanneh/monobook.js (as oposed to user talk:). By the way the stuff in mine does didly squat, and is really not that useful if you're wondering. The top half only allows you to open one show/hide dynamic box in a page at a time. the bottom half is me experimenting with the comment tab, and is supposed to be commented out, since its now in the sitewide js, but isn't because i'm lazy. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Ya, thanks. I'll probally just go w/out it anyway. Over on WIkipedia I use some stuff, but changes dont seem to go too fast here anyway to the point that I would need any shortcuts or anything. Ycanneh 17:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

JS

Excellent! just what we were after! Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 21:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

btw, I'm off for a week, hoilday ;) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 21:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm doing too many js things. which one are you refering to? Bawolff ☺☻ 21:14, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

onebox Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 21:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Good, glad i can help. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Bawolff/Sandbox/superportal

What does it do? —FellowWikiNewsie 00:14, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

responded on your talk. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

that is cool as well. I can foresee that having benefits, perhaps on a mainpage redesign. Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 01:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I plan on making it much cooler (perhaps to the point of a bad imitation of http://google.com/ig ) Bawolff ☺☻ 01:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

It still doesn't work. —FellowWikiNewsie 18:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I did do a hard refresh. I'm using the Datrio+MrM skin. —FellowWikiNewsie 19:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It apparently has problems in IE. (I have no idea why, but I plan to look into it when i get a chance). If you're not using MSIE, i have no idea why it isn't working. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Supposed vandalism

Hello,

Your recent contributions constitute vandalism and have been reverted. Should you believe that your contributions are *not* vandalism, please argue your case on your talk page, or in WN:ALERT.

Further vandalism will result in a 24 hour ban. Please contribute to Wikinews in a constructive fashion instead. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

What of my editting do you consider vandalism? Is it this?: http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Astronaut_to_face_attempted_murder_charge&diff=prev&oldid=373484

That information is true if you look it up, you will see this. I don't edit Wikinews that often. I am on Wikipedia more often. --Kalmia 03:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I made a mistake. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

EDP image list

Yeah feel free to edit these pages - wasnt planning on doining everything for myself.--MarkTalk 10:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Virgina tech

Hey Bawolff! Can you please help me!!! Would you be able to find out who I should contact at Virginia tech in regards to media interviews/ questions. My internet asdl is screwed up (danm lighning surge) and I just got my PC back from getting vista installed - now things are 20 X slower.

thanks PS. I'll tell you a story! There once was a wikinews user who never archived his page. It is you!!! —Symode09 13:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry i have absolutly no idea where to find that. By the way, see my real talk page Bawolff ☺☻ 07:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

p.s., trust the penguin...

Thanks for the Welcome

Bawolff, thanks for the welcome on my Talk page. Yeah, I'm using the Datrio CSS skin so far and I think it's great. Maybe it's my personal preference, but it looks phenomenal... lovin' the layout so far.ContemplativeInAction 23:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

That's good (now if only I could convince the rest of the site to make it default...). By the way i belive you're using Datrio+MrM, not plain Datrio (couple differences, mostly with background). Bawolff ☺☻ 02:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Unprotection

Hey, just a small favor. Could you unprotect the categories at User:Zachary/Sandbox so I can update them with the CalendarBot? Thanks, —Zachary ^talk 02:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Is semi-protection okay? Bawolff ☺☻ 02:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Australian Princess gives birth to daughter

Regarding your comment on Talk:Australian Princess gives birth to daughter.:

This was an article that I found in the disputed section of the Newsroom. Meanwhile, I had put together a piece on this same subject in Wikinews Shorts: April 23, 2007. So, I first created a redirect to the shorts, but since the disputed article had never been published, I thought it ought to be deleted. Maybe the steps I took were not proper, but they were with the best of intentions. --SVTCobra 03:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, those are totally the correct steps. I'm just not really sure the need of deleting the redirect. We generally keep redirects unless there is a really good reason not to (aka stuff on wheels). Bawolff ☺☻ 22:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

you are right

Hi you posted on my page that person really wasn't being serious I dont think.

Emmi

I'd recomend you just ignore him. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice.

Emmi 23:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

r u bored?

Shilpa Sheedy category? are you serious? --SVTCobra 02:11, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Well... We have categories for people with less articles. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

You didn't answer the question? And it's "fewer articles." Sniff, sniff do I detect alcohol on your breath? --SVTCobra 02:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll go with bored. But i'd like to point out Category:Ed Stelmach with a whopping 2 articles. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

You gotta talk to your fellow Canadians about that. --SVTCobra 02:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

But we may have more articles about Stelmach in the future. —FellowWikiNewsie 02:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

You've stirred the pot, Bawolff.--SVTCobra 02:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Well he could always really screw up, and the Marxist-lenist party could steal the next election (maybe with a merger from the albertan greens!) Bawolff ☺☻ 02:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah ha! I said something so stupid, that nobody had a response to it! Bawolff ☺☻ 02:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's okay if you delete it, but if we get more articles about him I think we would have to re-create it again. Also, Category:Justin Trudeau only has one article! Mabie we should consider deleting that too! —FellowWikiNewsie 02:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

oh no, i like categories (plus Justin Trudeau is definitly going to have more articles, if he screws up or not). I'm just trying to justify my creation of a category with only 4 articles. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay. —FellowWikiNewsie 02:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

need image help

I did what I supposed should be called a reproduction of RHakeem's Image:Nwfpmap.png map and uploaded it to Commons as Image:NWFP and FATA.jpg.

Here are the troubles:

1. the image is in the .jpg format, rather than .png
2. the 'full resolution' size of the file is a whopping 1.96MB file

I don't know how to fix either of these issues. Frankly, even if I could figure it out, I would rather not, since I've had it up to my chin in dealing with the map to get it where it is now! Can you make changes you see fit, even its Commons category, to get it consistent with standard usage? -Edbrown05 23:53, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll try (I've personally haven't done much of actual converting images, but i think I know the basic idea). However I'm a little busy right now, so i hope its okay if I start on it tommorow? Bawolff ☺☻ 03:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for any help. I'm hoping to soon wrap up the interview where this map is placed. -Edbrown05 17:32, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Ed: I have converted the map to .png and sent it to your email, it is a large size, so if your IP rejects it based on size, pls let me know where to upload it to Wiki. --RHakeem 19:39, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

By the way, you (RHakeem) should send an email to mailto:permissions@wikimedia.org so that we have a record of your permission for us to use your image (commons is a bit strict on that). Bawolff ☺☻ 22:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, my first attempt didn't work that well — Image:Map showing NWFP and FATA.png. Trying again soon. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I did get the emailed attachment from RHakeem in the .png file format. The file size of the image in that attachment was around 5MB! Okay, now that I have the proper file extention, how does one make the resolution render to about 1300px X 1200px or whatever? -Edbrown05 06:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Good. Upload over top of commons:image:Map showing NWFP and FATA.png, and mediawiki will automatically take care of the resizing. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Original work

Re: Image:Delta before after.png – The original work was the taking of the actual screenshot (it does not include the entire window, but only the relevant parts of the Web site) as well as finding and laying out the logos along with the sites below. It is an illustration, and that is the original work that took place. Though these images are effectively copyrighted and used under fair use, their arrangement and display is my original work, and I'd like to be credited for it if someone decides to copy the image wholesale. --Omaryak 05:25, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Well okayWell maybe okay, i'm not sure if thats valid considering they're fair use. (never been really good at figuring out this whole copyright thing). Bawolff ☺☻ 05:27, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

${\color {Blue}{\mathfrak {Wikinews}}}:{\color {Sepia}The\;Free\;News\;Source}$

Notice of Appreciation

Thank you for creating this neat thank you card! :P —Zachary ^talk 01:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. It was mostly me trying to turn a useless thing, into something semi-useful. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Bawolff, you need to check the spelling of "appreciation"! Cheers, Jcart1534 02:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

lol. I even have a spell checker in browser. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

No sweat! Looks good now. Nice job on the award! Jcart1534 10:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

reply to vote

Hey mate, just wanted to say, the only reason I applied while being so new is because it said work on other wikimedia projects counts, and I've done a good bit at wikipedia. But hey, its cool. The people I want to cover/get to are medium level people, most field grade officers in the military, and to be allowed to cover local brigade events, which always requires accreditation. (not quite Steven Harper, but also not the local kwikemart owner) anyways, just wanted to explain why such a newbi was requesting it, and thanks for showing an intrest in supporting me later on if I am not successful this time around.

Well that is true, but you generally have to have a lot of other project stuff to be able to get accredited by that. Its just that in general, people who request it when they are so new (not always, but often) stay for about 2 weeks, get bored, and then leave. However If you keep going in the direction you're going, I'll definitly support you in the future. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: interesting citizen journalism article

Why did you think it was interesting?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I just find different view points intresting. However it would have been much more intresting if they talked about wikinews. Also I kind of wanted to spred the message around, as no one read wikinews-l (although the message I posted kind of lost the meaning of the mailing list post). Bawolff ☺☻ 10:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Disclosure

I am a student however - that was a simple example but, I have made an agreement in the past with them :)

Symode09 11:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, your agreement was to give them all your money in exchange for a mediocre operating system and office suite. —Zachary ^talk 11:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Lol. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

IRC ASAP!

Hey! can you go on the IRC asap, i just want to talk to you before I go thanx Symode09 14:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I missed you. I'm on irc right now. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

how can this piece of code become more specialized?

{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{ns:14}}||''' [[:Category:{{PAGENAME}}|View all]] '''articles about this person.}}

Meaning, can it be made into a robot that crawls through Wikinews, grabs 'regions' and 'people' links and assigns them to the appropriate category/portal pages? -Edbrown05 08:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Umm, I'm not really sure what you mean, but probably no. it can only make templates that do certain things based on arguments or variables. See meta:ParserFunctions for more on them. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Mediawiki:Licenses

DragonFire1024 had an image that was deleted on Commons; from a project funded by NASA, but with a NC clause in the license on the site. I wasn't going to wait six weeks for Commons to adapt their {{NASA}} template and accept the image.

This is an example of why people here don't like working with Commons. They left one of our articles with a redlink, the one about the supernova - and that visually relied on the picture for impact.

I'm sick of them believing - and operating - on the principle of better to delete than contact the (newbie - about to be put off using Commons) uploader for further information. That behaviour was supposed to have stopped. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 08:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I also added a CC SA 2.5, GFDL combo to relicense my EDP request images. It took a while, but I do not trust them on commons as far as I can throw them. DragonFire1024 08:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Um NC license clauses would be deleted both here and commons (for here, courtsey of the foundation resolution). We delete copyvio articles, why wouldn't they delete copyvio images. Commons has not non-legentmently deleted an image that was used here in a good year. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:02, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Participatory journalism on mailing list

Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Participatory_Journalism_Questions

Actually she asked to wait until the assignment is over, then she will post it on a user subpage. So I've removed the link in your comment, hope that's ok.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

oh ok. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:55, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Alan J

The image i uploaded was (i think) from a news article but the image is also used (in a modified form) on the BBC blog campaign where they want people to but the image on their blog (kinda publiciity i think) but i didnt use this image as its got text on it. Blog article is here. Cheers for the help.--MarkTalk 08:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I have emailed the BBC press office asking for an image we can use under CC or Fair use. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 08:36, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I have a response from Iain MacDougall at the Picture desk, I've put the text of the email on the picture, can you work out what license text should then be on it to go with this? My inference from the email is they want people to use the image to promote the man's plight. You can also - for future reference - file pictures<at>bbc<dot>co<dot>uk away as the email address to request photo permission from the Beeb, the impression I got from my response is they'd be pretty relaxed about it - they responded quickly and treated my inquiry as being from a journalist. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 09:35, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Am I allowed to make articles about these topics.

w:Rajinikanth and w:Sivaji: The Boss or any other w:Tamil cinema stars? I read all the guidelines but they still don't answer my question.

I am w:User:Vagish.

~~ Vagish ^{[wp] [wn]} 14:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: WN:HOTLINE

I want to update the hotline a bit and try and revive its' use. It's a fantastic way for people to contribute without writing, or whilst out in the field. --Skenmy^{(t•c•w•i)} 16:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

responded on your talk. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:06, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Video

Heya!

I see you have previously shown some interest in Wikinews Video Edition and, need your help. As you may already know, the projet is is need of assistance - we have finished all the graphics and need to start actually brainstorming ideas for the first news story. We will cover one news story and, will cover it with much depth - the story will go for 15-20 minutes. We are looking for something which is not of direct interest to the media (ie. tax increases or politics) but rather, a heartfelt or deep story. Could you please help to collaborate and brainstorm here.

thanx, USer:symode09

Wikinews:Commons categories

Hi Bawolff, I don't think this is policy handed down in any official way. User:Mac has been adding templates and stuff like this from other wikiprojects, often with dead links and such. Not sure who should look into the activities of Mac. --SVTCobra 20:39, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes I know. Thats my problem with the thing. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:47, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

IRC for Private Request

Can you get on IRC for a moment?  Thunderhead  ►  22:48, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll try, but my internet is having intermitant problems so I might not be their for too long. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

dr

cheers, wasnt sure how long it should be. --MarkTalk 19:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Well it doesn't really matter for those ones as we know what the resualt will be, but technically, articles 3days, everything else 7. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: status changer

Thanks :) Currently it's not working for me so I'll have to experiment a bit later when I have some time. —FellowWikiNewsie 22:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Very Very Important

I left this at the watercooler but since you are very active I wanted to tip you off so you can tell other admins. VERY IMPORTANT! Do not ban IP 66.230.200.145 if he does vandalism. On Wikipedia it says it doing so will lock out every editor for a brief period of time until the developers fix whatever bug is causing the squid problems. Just giving a heads up that something is buggy with Wikipedia and be careful.

Re: you're back (a little bit anyway)

Actually, I probably could have stayed away. However, I got bored in French class, so I decided to visit Wikinews, and for the hell of it, I logged back in and made an edit. →MR 19:22, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: wikipedia ads

From commons:User talk:Golbez

You recently deleted the wikipedia ads saying: creator/original uploader req; belongs on enwiki, not commons. Well they are free content, and we're using them on the english wikinews (not all of them all enwiki specific), why shouldn't they be at commons. Bawolff 03:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi. While I don't have any problem with you using the ads on projects other than Wikipedia, can we try to organize things a little better? As uploader of the images I would have appreciated being notified that they were about to be deleted from Wikipedia, but I was not. When I found that files had been moved without regard for this, or preservation of the description page, and with no apparent reason for the move, I asked for them to be moved back.

If you wish to move them back to Commons, you are welcome to do so, but please do not delete the local description pages, please do not use the wrong license tag and please link to w:Template:Qxz-ads on the Commons description page. You may also find it useful to copy the contents of that template and modify it as appropriate (I'm aware that Wikinews uses a different license, however barring trivial modifications I'm the author of the template and I'm not bothered what you do with it.) The ad project was originally a personal project in my userspace, I only uploaded the images for my own use and moved it out of userspace because I no longer had time to fulfil requests. It took a lot of time to create the images and while I can't impose any license restrictions on them I can ask nicely that people not misuse them within Wikimedia projects. Thanks – Gurch 20:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou for responding. I'm glad you're okay with me re-uploading them. As for them being deleted, that is what the english wikipedia admins did. They deemed that it fell under the speedy deletion policy, and I have no control over that, you'll have to take it up with them. I did not request their deletion, I only noted that there was a version on commons. I believe everything was correctly tagged on commons, and linked back to the template. (however I uploaded them a while ago, so I don't 100% remember.) If that is not true, I'm sorry about that. I assure you that we are not misusing them in any way (to my knowledge). Sorry for all the confusion and happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Budapest

I think the category:Budapest is not problem to you, because u didn't do it. I hope I just helped to you.--Kádár Tamás 09:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

My problem is that there is no news for it. Portals/categories for things that are not countries need articles on them before creation. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:32, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

IRC cloak request

I am bawolff on freenode and I would like the cloak wikinews/Bawolff. Thanks. --Bawolff ☺☻ 05:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikilove

Notice of Appreciation

I based this template on your card - hope you don't mind :p

Not at all. Template looks great. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:30, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

New page

It is hard to see a page created by you in the recent times. Can you give me any one ?. Regards.--Mac 09:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Define page. (article, or any page including things like templates?). However I mostly concentrate on non-writing tasks so my new page creation is lower then most people. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: template:abandoned

I deleted deprected beside template:abandoned. I think both ways are okay...{{subst:aband}} automatically puts the date for you, {{abandoned|May 20, 2007}} doesn't. Please see my edits. —FellowWikiNewsie 19:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok, that sounds good. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:56, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I repeat

Main page. Main page. It's only the main page I want to redesign. →MR 13:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thats what they all say. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

IRC

Your wish = my command! Please see this for the brand spanking new advanced version. Cheers --MarkTalk 09:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Looks good (Well in lynx anyway, the rest of the world is looking at it totally differently, but I'm sure it looks great in graphical browsers too (: Bawolff ☺☻ 20:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Also now have this java version - havent finished the instructions and prettiness of it yet but also to let you know. --MarkTalk 21:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Expandable tables

Hello! I had a chat with brianmc and DragonFire1024 on IRC channel #wikinews-en requesting help to add the feature of expandable tables to a corporate media wiki. brianmc suggested I might ask you. I would really appreciate it. --Bensin 23:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I'd love to help. Can you be a bit more specific about what you mean by expandable tables? Bawolff ☺☻ 20:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Just a note of thanks. OK, so I know it's a varient on the standard welcome template I've stuck on dozens of Wikipedia newbie's talk pages, but I allways really apreciated those few who made the effort to work out how to say thanks (especialy considering it took me so long to work it out that the time to say thanks in was ong-gone - something I cared little about then but have come to regret). Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 22:42, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Its fun to {{subst:hello}} everywhere . Anyways, if you ever need any help with anything (which you probably won't that much as you seem experianced), don't hesitate to ask. Also, consider using IRC, We use IRC here quite a lot. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Makes sense that you should use more IRC here then on the 'pedia - the 24 hours difference a time zone can make is a long time news-wise. I'll call if I need anything ;-) Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 22:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok, Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Links

Ah! Thanks for clearing that up, I hadn't even noticed! Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 23:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Oceans, Category:Water

These look like encyclopedic cat's to me. Cat:Oceans is only used on one article, Cat:Water on two. What do you think? —FellowWikiNewsie 00:24, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Its on the edge I admit, but lots of bad things can happen with Water as well as Oceans. Things like drinking water contamination, etc is news, similarly Poaching in Oceans is news, all the greenpeace protests in the oceans is news, the Jappenese whaling stuff happened in the oceans is news. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. But mabie we could change Cat:Water to Cat:Contamination or something that doesn't sound encyclopedic? —FellowWikiNewsie 00:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes cat water does sound like a horrid name to me, but you don't want anything to specific (especially considering the current pop of the cat.) Bawolff ☺☻ 00:37, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

But then again there is lots of water articles [28] everything from water on mars to great lake water level falling, to boil water adviseries. So the question is, is a cat with all things water useful to a news source Bawolff ☺☻ 00:37, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Template help needed

Hi,

could you edit Template:Image lead so that if you don't list a "full_story" (leave the parameter empty), it doesn't return anything in Template:Featured picture (if you understand what I'm saying...).

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Did I do what you meant? Bawolff ☺☻ 20:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

CGI:IRC javascript

Hmm dont think it can be used here - is under GFDL as shown here. Sorry --MarkTalk 21:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

oh well thats okay, it is not that important. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Can't change tag on my user picture

I didn't take the photo, so I don't own the copyright. --Munchkinguy 03:52, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

responded on your talk. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Ploy

I'm not sure how to go about specifying my notes. Wisekwai 05:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Hold on, now I think I know what you need. Will fix that up, and add a few sources as well. Wisekwai 05:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Basically Anything with an OR tag has to have notes describing exactly what is and what isn't OR. See WN:OR for details. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:35, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok

http://www.slide.com/r/WBZZZkzj3z_0jnD_EwRXQB3F8LqUQiyr?view=large That's the link thanx alot man I appreciate it. I have no idea how to add pictures that will be allowed. The 13th 4postle 00:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll look into them. I may need to ask the authors okay, so it might take a couple days. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

If this is about adding images to Venezuelan protests continue over closure of RCTV, I don't think we can do so to an article that has aged this much. You can find a related discussion at Talk:Pro-secular Turks rally against Erdogan's possible presidential candidacy (last topic), which was an article that also was about a protest. --SVTCobra 00:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

It is about restoring images deleted by commons delinker from Students protest closing of Venezuelan Channel RCTV Bawolff ☺☻ 00:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Permission request email has been sent. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I've just been informed that the photographs come from a competing news source (reuters), and therefor we can't use them. Sorry. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

location map templates

Hi Bawolff, I noticed you are adding a bunch of location map templates. How do I use them in an article? Are these going to part of the infobox location map? Or do I have to add something else to use them? --SVTCobra 02:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

May be that link is helpful? Obersachse 14:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

They can be used however they are useful (which has yet to be determined). Basically, if say a bomb goes off somewhere, instead of finding a map with a dot on it indicating where it happened, we can just use this template to create one on the fly. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Mapa lokalizacyjna v6.svg, w:Template:Location map Poland

Licence changed. Should be ok now. {{self|GFDL|cc-by-2.5}} Regards, Hiuppo

All I need is your permission to use your edits to w:template:Location map Poland under the cc-by-2.5 license. I do not need anything to do with the image. Thanks, Bawolff ☺☻ 22:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

OK. But where I should place this licence? In source code of this template? Hiuppo

You don't have to place a license anywhere. All you have to do is say yes on my talk page. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:10, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Soooo... Yes ;) Hiuppo

Thanks . Bawolff ☺☻ 20:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Guaicaipuro Cuatemoc

Hi. Thanks for your consideration but it's completely useless since it violates a series of politics such as Neutral Point, Content guide, etc. as it isn't neither written formally nor neutral (and is somewhat anti-capitalist). So you may erase it here at en: . Anyway, thanks again for your consideration. Regards - es:user:Jurock 01:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, will do. Just wanted to make sure i wasn't deleting something potentially useful. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:00, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Bawolff

Hello I'am Hyrax a news person would you like to edit my articles please asap if you can thank you. --Hyrax 23:39, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Which article do you want me to edit? Bawolff ☺☻ 20:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

All of them please. --Hyrax 23:34, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Commons

Hi, thanks for your message, I have replied on my talk page. Regards. Adambro 10:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Image:Moblog 7af00dae65efd mod.jpg

In what way does the length of time the image has been uploaded effect whether it falls under the speedy deletion criteria? Regards. Adambro 22:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

At the time of the upload it was under an acceptable but discouraged license. Under current policy it will not be deleted until March 23, 2008 (To give time to try to get a new license for it). This applies to any image uploaded before March 23, 2007. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

At a time when people are talking about keeping "fair use" images, aren't you pushing the envelope by tagging "Cc-by-nc-nd-2.5" images for deletion? Aren't they more "free" than "fair use"? --SVTCobra 23:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

That depends on your perspective, but well, not really. Most people feel fair use is way better then cc-by-nc-nd. Also I haven't tagged any of them for deletion. they were all tagged a while ago, and one image was mistagged. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Dang Bawollf

You can write a 1st lead synopsis :) Thanks for... all the hard coding and keeping us tuned. -Edbrown05 07:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻

away message

I hope I catch you, but you might want to fix the date on your away message (on the talk page). --SVTCobra 01:15, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Thats okay, acording to that date, I already came back a month ago :). On a serious note, I'm going to be leaving tomorrow, so I'm still here for a little bit. Thanks for catching that. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:17, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

NP. Well, happy travels or whatever you are doing. I hope it is something you want to be doing. --SVTCobra 02:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Yep it is. Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

hey

Hey Bawolff, good to see ya. Hope you are enjoying your break! Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 07:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

commons:User_talk:Bryan#sxc_images

ran across this posting by you, and replied there. I could not find an inbound from her for those images. Hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 18:20, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

What's a crap error?

=) Thunderhead - (talk) 02:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and oversight requests

There are two requests in relation to CheckUser and oversight which require the approval of the Arbitration Committee before they are presented to Wikimedia stewards for action to be taken. I would ask you to review these two requests:

1. User:Brianmc has recently been elected to the committee and requests CheckUser and oversight
2. User:Chiacomo hasn't been re-elected and has been inactive on the project since March, User:Adambro has suggested his privileges are revoked.

I would appreciate your input, as a member of ARBCOM which I understand has the final say on whether a user has these rights, on these two requests. Adambro 14:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Nice to see you on Wikinews again! —FellowWiki Newsie 23:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Immigrant's Festival begins in Argentina

It's original reporting, I put a link to the spanish vertion. :) Regards, Loco085 22:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok good. Sorry for jumping on you so fast. Thanks for translating. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image Information

Alright don't use commons that often but now I know the proper use. Thanks for your help. Herb 14:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem, glad to be of help. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Canada

Noticing that you're a Canadian WN editor, I was wondering if I could ask specifically which city - so that I can smack people on their talk pages if there's an upcoming event I'd love to see covered as per Wikinews:Happenings/Ontario and similar. On an unrelated note, seeing your talk page, we really do need to do something about the lack of public domain stories on WN - I see no reason why a story shouldn't be able to be put into the PD by its creator with a template announcing its status, and that all further edits are PD by default :( It's sad to see that we our knowledge and information is not as widely dessiminated as it could be, simply because a bunch of people dream of seeing CNN quote WikiNews. :\ Sherurcij ^{refusing to add Original Reporting until PD Articles are allowed} 21:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Well I'm in alberta, but i'm not very much of a writer. As for PD, well I personally put all my edits under PD, I don't think it really makes too much of difference for people copying us. After the switch we yelled at all the people mirroring us who weren't crediting us, and most of them (bear in mind there were very few of them who actually mirrored us, and thoose that did ussually said something along the lines from wikinews etc) added a linkback line, I remember one that stopped mirroring us, but they weren't exactly doing a good job mirroring us anyhow (e.g. they displayed the wikicode for the article). The cc-by really requires not very much for the person copying us, and the amount of people copying us depends on our quality of content way more than pd vs cc-by in my opinion. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:21, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Difference between images

The country we are looking for the World News Quiz isn't mentioned in the title of the image I uploaded. I've also uploaded duplicates for previous quizzes. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 09:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:13, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Iranian President Ahmadinejad speaks at Columbia University

Thanks for the compliment - that felt good! I need to take a break from writing the article and I think it would benefit from other eyes an hands. Plus, I have my interview with Tom Tancredo tomorrow at 1:15 and I need to bone up for that. Have at it guys. --David Shankbone 02:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome. I fixed a few miscatergorations, but other then that, you write much much better then me, and there is really nothing I can add. Excellent article, Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:24, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again :-) I actually wrote it kind of rushed. But at least that $120,000 I spent on law school did some good. --David Shankbone 12:43, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

RE 6%

No kidding! thats really cool...how'd you figure that? just curious :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 05:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

10281/568 = 0.0552475... * 100% = ~6%

Bawolff ☺☻ 05:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

LOL...good call on some easy math...I am impressed :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 05:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

PD and that stuff

Ok, I actually really knew that... My real question is: "Why are PD articles allowed here when WMF stated licence for WN is CC-BY 2.5?". And I don't mean to be rude, but I think the real "issue" (to name it somehow) has been a little distorted. My question is still the same: Wikinews:Copyright (policy here in WN) states license of submitted work here is CC-by 2.5, so why are PD articles allowed nonetheless? - Jurock ^{(reply here)} 20:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC) (PS: BTW, I also share your view that GFDL is not a great license)

Wait a sec! That you wrote in my talk wasn't really for me, was it? It was for the person who posted above you? Then sorry =P. But in es:wikinews we don't usually answer other people in third party's usertalks... - Jurock ^{(reply here)} 20:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Spebi

Yeah, I'm familiar. Thanks for welcoming me :) Spebi 07:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Calbot and protected date pages

Can't see a problem with that, as CalendarBot is an admin and would be able to edit anyways..

But thanks for letting me know none the less :D —Zachary ^talk 00:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Question

Hi Bawolff... I was wondering, is there any way at all to introduce your code for oppinion tabs to es.wikinews? I mean, I read the sort of "warning" that it wouldn't work for other languages, and since I have almost 0 .js knowledge, I'd like to know if there is a little chance... Byes! - Jurock ^{(reply here)} 17:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Thing is, I had tried already but failed (maybe some variables I didn't know from?). Anyway, comments in Spanish is "Comentarios"... - Jurock ^(reply) 23:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

(I must surely be rather annoying...) Well, just to tell you I have been experimenting in es:MediaWiki:Comments.js and have almost done it... All I'm missing is the tab to appear in the main article (it appears in the talk page, however, and it links back wonderfully now...). Anyway, if you wish to use it in your own monobook, just add includePage ( 'MediaWiki:Comments.js' ). Thanks! - Jurock ^(reply) 21:59, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about being annoying, I like doing stuff with javascript. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments tab

There's a problem with the comments tab. Please see admin alerts page. —FellowWiki Newsie 17:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

crap that was my fault. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Bryan Habana tackled for Webb Ellis Cup

Ellis Cup

Hi there

I just did an post in my blog about the Web ellis cup which was almost stolen in South Africa yesterday. See my post here and maybe you can ad it to wikinews. http://blog.fring.com/southafrica/?p=107

Thanx

simon - South Africa 196.207.40.212 08:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Done Rugby player Bryan Habana tackled by fan. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 09:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

jajaja!

(well, that's in Spanish... the equivalent for hahaha!). Just laughing at those quotes... xD Thanks, you gave me a good laugh... - Jurock ^(reply) 22:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Bawolff ☺☻ 22:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

tabs

For a short while the first tab on articles was listed as "Page" instead of "Article". Do you know why that was? Is someone toying with the "code"? I know next to nothing about these aspects of Wikinews, but I remember the problem with the commentary section. Is this something to be concerned about? --SVTCobra 01:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

It was (Me and Thunderhead are assuming at least) a developer who made a difference in the server-side code to the site changing the default name for the main namespace tab from Article to Page. It has now been changed back to Article. It can be controlled by mediawiki:nstab-main. (If the page does not exist, it uses default). Bawolff ☺☻ 07:37, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

noprobs!

hi bawolff, i saw ur msg in portuguese wikipedia. feel free. someone can try to understand what u said. thankyou. alex Abmac 11:44, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Fixing problems

Hello Bawolff:

I'm Brunoy Anastasiya Seryozhenko one contribuitor of lusophon Wikinews; I see your messenger here, and I said the problem in that page; We will fix that in a few time, and I thank you for see this problem, and if you have more problems from Lusophon Wikinews to talk (which you said), you can contact me in my talk page of lusophon Wikipedia, or my talk page on Wikinews.

Thanks. Brunoy Anastasiya Seryozhenko 14:12, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Bawolff's bot

Any chance of getting it running on Template:Popular articles/recent? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:03, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Very soon. I just have to fix a thing with commas I just discovered. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:17, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Weirdness with calendar

Hi Bawolff. I figured you might be able to sort this out. Have a look at the calendar at the top right of this page. The "November" link is red and seems to be trying to access 2008, rather than 2007. Cheers, Jcart1534 21:24, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Done Somebody made a mistake in typing a year. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:06, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Bot's comment

Sorry for delay... I am back in Belgrade, but I realized that I have problems with Internet connection (ADSL modem died) which should be fixed today evening. As I am able to access normally to Toolserver only from my personal computer and it is possible to make changes only if something is urgent. (Resetting my key for SSH or asking some admin to shut down the bot.) If everything goes normally, I'll fix subject tomorrow around UTC noon. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 17:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. If you want to change text in table, you may change meta:User:Millbot/translations.py and I'll include it ASAP. Don't touch left side, but only right side of the configuration file. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 13:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Template:Popular articles/recent

Is it possible that this list will be getting shorter and shorter the longer this tool keeps track of articles? Because it will become harder for new articles to beat articles that have been viewed a lot more because they are much older... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Theoretically the list should reset itself once a month (I think). However I'm not sure if it did that or not. Anyways, I've increased the size of the list the bot uses from the toolserver from 200 to 300 of the most popular articles. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Ogg

It was for a story about myself which has now been canned feel free to delete it.--Irate 12:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews:Story preparation/Interview with Reggie Bibbs on his life with neurofibromatosis

Hi bawolff,

as you read here: User_talk:Nzgabriel#Looking_for_help_on_Video_Interview, I'm now behind a firewall and I can't get the video and upload it to Commons, if you have time could you do that for me and put cc-by-2.0 with OTRS pending (I'll forward permission once I know the filename)? I'm feeling really stupid because I've just moved to a new job and I can't freely access anything here, so now I can't finish this article which I'd really like to publish now...

Thanks a million for all your help! (also with bawolff bot etc.)

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I just read this now. I'm currently downloading the video (all 153 megabytes), assuming all goes well with converting it (I hope it does, I find converting videos only seems to work about 50% of the time for me), I'll upload it to commons soon. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, I agree it might be better to have a few parts and make the video bigger about 300px, maybe even 3 parts I don't know. Problem is I'm on a hospital IT network where I can't even view videos or download anything so I really depend on others to publish this. If you have time please increase the size and create partitions and then publish the story. Thanks for all your help bawolff. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I will, but I can't right now, I just logged in to check my messages. I'll try to do that soon. 03:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

That's allright just whenever you have time, just let me know if you think it will be >2weeks or something then I'll try to find someone else to help out but otherwise that's quite allright you've been incredibly helpful already! Thanks, --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Its uploaded. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your incredible help Bawolff, Fellowikinews and SVTCobra have been writing the transcript so this is slowly but surely getting there, I hope you found the video interesting (I haven't seen it myself but I've read the transcript). I understand the sound quality is poor... Do you think the article can be published without the full transcript (I can't finish it myself so then I'll ask a few other people to help out...)? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

As to sound quality: The main problem (I think) is the questioners voice is very hard to hear. Reggie's voice is loud and clear to me. I'm not sure if the questioners voice could be somehow edited into betterness, or perhaps recordered over, thats definitly over my know how. I think publishing the unfinished version is fine, as long as it gets finished soon. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:35, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Interview templates

I took your template for responses - and made {{WNIQ}}. The idea with this is for a one-on-one interview the interviewer can use their name and initials. The templates I did can be used for group interviews done on IRC or by email. HOWEVER, the rendering in MSIE is WYSIWTF. The left and right of the letters are cropped.

Anyway, use would be

((Interviewee Name)) This is the first question.

((IN)) Second and subsequent.

For responses I think it would be overkill to decorate beyond bolding initials. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 09:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I like the black ionstead of the aqua better too. Aqua was too much blue. I modified the templates to be less squished to the image, as that was what is causing the IE weirdness (transparent png support = not in IE).Another thought: When we're doing wikinews, I think that perhaps we should abbreviate to WN, not just W, as W in my mind equals wikipedia. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:40, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure am serious

Yeah, I'm deadly serious. But, yeah, seriously, thanks for making the effort to do that - I'm told it can be a pain to adapt things to work properly in IE! Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 07:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem. IE is annoying (or depending on your perspective, the rest of the world is annoying), but that was a very short script and was quite painless to adapt. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

NGerda

The least you could have done was include a congrats on the new photo. I saw it earlier, but I don't know NGerda, so it would probably have been weird. lol, cheers, --SVTCobra 00:40, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

IRC

Can you come back to IRC? I have something important to discuss and nobody is there to discuss it with me. TheCustomOfLife 01:41, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, don't worry about it, just go to the final section on the collaboration page of the WMF article and comment. TheCustomOfLife 01:56, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

project:Changing username#Instructions

Dear Bawolff! Thanks for the note at my user talk page. However I want to let you know that the « Instructions » at project:Changing username#Instructions where before I copied a minimum of required templates useless as template:Renameuser is a nested template copied from w:en:template:Renameuser. So either the instructions should be changed or the templates need to be adapted. If you want I can assit you. you can reach me at #kavehoyz or via Skype:irelgnag. Best regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 09:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi! template:Listuser is one of the nested templates required for template:Renameuser see special:Whatlinkshere/template:Listuser. Best regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 07:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Dual License

Well done for Dual Licensing your edits (PD/CC-BY). You are the first Wikinews user I have seen (except me) who uses dual licensing (despite it being relitavely common on Wikipedia. The problem is it iis virtually useless unless other users do the same. --User:Anonymous101 19:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Well the difference, is here the licensing is quite liberal. The GFDL on the other hand is just bleh, so there is much more incentive to dual license on 'pedia. There was only one other user who pd'd there edits here that I'm aware of (Sherurcij (talk · contribs)) but he is not very active (excluding the obvious before September 25, 2005).

Personally I've tried to import templates and such from wikipedia, and found that copyright even when copyleft is still an absolute royal pain :). Its especially annoying as most users don't care if you want to copy it as long as you're not a jerk about it, but you have to jump through hoops anyways. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

re perth temps

i'll give a couple of hours and see what comes along Gnangarra 07:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

thanks for your help Gnangarra 07:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

glad to help. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-quizScorePost.js

When I tried the new quiz feature it worked but it put your sig with the date and time that you added it toMediaWiki:Gadget-quizScorePost.js instead of mine with the current date and time. —FellowWiki Newsie 19:24, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Can't believe i did that . fixed (may have to do hard refresh). Bawolff ☺☻ 03:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I tested again but now there is no box showing. I did a couple hard refreshes. —FellowWiki Newsie 18:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Thats weird. I think i fixed it, but i have no idea wht it did that so I'm going to have to look into it more later. It should work now. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, it works now. —FellowWiki Newsie 19:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

My userpage

Yeah, the aesthetic sacrifices one has to make, huh? ;-) Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 12:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

I dunno if you do RfA thanks here, or if it's just a Wikipedia thing. If not, I reckon the trend needs broken. Many thanks for participating in my RfA, which, as you've already congratulated me for, was successful. Unfortunatly, I can't use the excuse of testing my shiny new buttons to see what they do as I have them on Wikipedia ;). So, I guess that rules out any rogue-adminish behaivour ;-). Seriously, though, cheers, and see you around on-wiki! Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 15:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Weirdness with calendar, part 2

Hi Bawolff. Can you have a look at this month's article listing page? There is usually a calendar at the top right. You sorted out a previous problem with this, so I am hoping you can fix up this as well? Cheers, --Jcart1534 00:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Zachary is looking into it. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:28, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

News brief recording

Just wanted to say I listened to your news brief and it sounded great. Happy editing (and recording). Bawolff ☺☻ 10:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC) p.s. Theres a discrepancy between the license you say the recording is under in the recording (CC-By 2.5), and the license you say on the commons page (CC-BY-SA). I believe CC-By 2.5 is the correct one as that is what the rest of the site is under, and what other audio things have been under. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Dear Bawolff: Thank you so much, I'm honoured that you thought it up to the necessary standard. The most recent issue that I recorded is much more professional actually, as I'm getting more practiced I think at the newsreading/scriptwriting process. Stay tuned for future briefs! Thank you also for letting me know about the tagging mistake which I've now fixed. If there's anything you think could be done better in my News Briefs recordings, or something which you think I should add to them, please do let me know. All the best, --NicholasTurnbull 21:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

DPL: Select articles based on REVISION dates?

There doesn't seem to be much action there. Do you care to comment on Select articles based on REVISION dates? Thanks. RichardF 19:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Basically we use a very old version of dpl (efficency reasons i think, don't quote me on that though). Anyways, see mw:Extension:DynamicPageList/old is the extention page for the version we use. (/me whishes for DPL2, it looks awesome). Bawolff ☺☻ 06:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

O-ooh

Wikinews:Arbitration_Committee/Elections_January_2008#User:Bawolff . --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:43, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

m:wikt:yi:project:IRC, w:ps:project:IRC etc.

Dear Bawolff! Thanks for all what you have done so far to get « project:IRC » running. For the « clones » at m:s:yi:project:IRC, w:yi:project:IRC and w:ps:project:IRC it would be best to ask for a temporary sysopship. I was absent during the last days as well but I hope to be more time online during the next days. Best regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 22:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Script update

Hello Bawolff. I updated a script in your JavaScript file to fix a problem with new restrictions in MediaWiki. Unfortunately, another MediaWiki change has temporarily broken refreshing; if you want to use it after it breaks, you'll need to try one of these options:

• Wait a few days or weeks; the server and browser caches will eventually time out.
• Repeatedly hard-refresh your browser while viewing an edit page on Wikinews.
• In your preferences under the "Misc" section, add a check mark next to "disable page caching". Next, view the raw JavaScript code, and hard-refresh your browser. You might want to re-enable page caching after that to avoid slow page loading times.

If you're curious, developers recently restricted the use of the URL parameter "&action=raw" to the primary script access point— this means that it can no longer be used with simplified URLs. —Pathoschild 05:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Strangeness for editing

Currently the clickable link below the edit box looks wrong and inserts *[[:Template:Source]]. I'm not sure where this is buried. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:51, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe it relates to Zach's recent edits to mediawiki:Edittools (and various js files). Looks like its all fixed now. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

tabbed navigation

what's the likelihood of setting up tabbed navigation (such as [29])? –Doldrums(talk) 15:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Quite easy. I believe user:Darklama has code for something similiar on wikibooks (I'll look into that). Alternatively we could probably easily adapt the link you provided as well. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:19, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

thanks for setting it up :) saved me from figuring out why

function bar( t ) {
	tabs = t.parentNode.nextSibling.nextSibling.cells;
	for (i = 0; i < tabs.length; i++){
		if (tabs[i].style.display != 'none' ){
		tabs[i].style.display = 'none';
		}
	}
	tabs[t.cellIndex].style.display = 'block';
}

is broken on IE (first row of a table has the tab names, second row has the tab contents and bar(this) is called on click). and this is why i wanted the tabs. thanks again, –Doldrums(talk) 17:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

hi

its not an editorial..it an article..an opinion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elfhmar (talk • contribs) 08:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

--are you the author of http://www.boloji.com/society/149.htm yes... i am the author. anyway, its ok..i will remove the 'article'. :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elfhmar (talk • contribs) 08:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

hey

thanks for responding, man :) i found this is one of the policies: "Closeness to a subject does not mean you're incapable of being neutral"

i'm not trying to fight against everyone. it's just in my article - i was writing about what happened. and yeah it did happen to me, but that doesn't in this case that it jeapordizes the professionalsim of wikinews, because it WAS written from a neutral point of view. I mean, if it is really that big of an issue, I could give both my own statement and the police report at a later date, and let someone else edit it. But I contend that it is something that is newsworthy, and it is written from a neutral point of view.

Again, thank you. And yes I would appreciate it if it was "un-deleted" lol. thanks :p - Brian Best 07:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

new

I'm new to wikinews and I want to create a lacrosse portal in the sports section. how can i do this? (Twiggslaxfpc 08:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC))

I also have a question about tables. how can i create one for the different teams in the various lacrosse leagues? Also, where is a good place to spread the news about the new lacrosse portal? (Twiggslaxfpc 15:05, 10 February 2008 (UTC))

rss feeds

not sure if this is useful to your rss template, but you can make text rssy (or at least the old style of rssy icon) by putting stuff in the class rss. For example RSS or XML. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Don't think its useful for my template at the moment but thank anyway. --Anonymous101 Talk 06:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

ok. p.s. I changed the variable from {{PAGENAME}} to {{PAGENAMEE}} so that it works with usernames with spaces in them. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. --Anonymous101 Talk 07:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

☺ I see that you know what you are doing for RSS feeds. Is there any chance you can teach me how you create one on a wiki?- Kristinpedia (talk) 17:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

If you could tell me how to step by step create an rss feed on a wiki I'd really appreciate it. Or even a link to an article that describes how your guys did it.Kristinpedia (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Does the community on this website not respect it's own policies?

This is not a retorical question, bawolf. It's real. And I sort of wouldn't mind getting an answer to my question; you can give me a suggestion to act differently or some personality critisicism as well, but please, i'm humbly asking that you answer the question in the topic heading.

You should know why I ask that, deep down. But it's because the article I wrote is subjected to deletion and it seems like nobody has read the policies. They furthermore ignore my quoted statements, fail to answer or to try to find any answer to my questions in the polices.

I would very much like to get along well with everyone here. I don't know if I should just not expect people to respect the policies on the website they are using, or if I should. I guess I am sort of mad, because people ignored me completely, and were acting as if I wasn't important, or maybe as if I wasn't going to read what they wrote. So I don't know. Brian Best - (talk) 00:43, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Policy is only the writing down of common practices. Sometimes thoose practices change, but policy does not get updated (however i do not believe that is happening here). While you do point out that closeness to something doesn't necessarily mean that you can't be neutral, there is a point where someone can be so close to the issue that we don't think they can. In addition, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a new user, and we have very little to go on if we should trust you. Combined with the fact that it is very hard to verify your story, we have no way of knowing if for some reason you could be somebody who is just lieing through your teeth and the vent did not happen. (not that we think you are, but the possibility always remains).

Basically what it boils down to is that we don't trust that you are neutral, and we can't prove that you are neutral. If many of us were in the same place as you were, we don't think we would be able to be neutral, so how can we know if you are actually neutral. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Main page design

Been playing in your sandbox.

How do I make tabs work for me? Can't get it working on my sandbox. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Add the following:

importScript("User:Bawolff/tabber.js"); //the tabber code that Deprify suggested <div class="tabber">stuff
importScript("MediaWiki:NavigationTabs.js"); //Darklama's script <div class="navtab">stuff

To either user:Brianmc/monobook.js (or your skin you use). Which will make it work on all pages you visit. (be warned importScript("MediaWiki:NavigationTabs.js"); doesn't behave well on long pages and with some skins). Or you can add it to [[mediawiki:common.js/User:Brianmc/<name of your sandbx here>]] which will make it work for anybody who visits that page. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Custom Skin

Hello, Bavolff ! - Just found your comment of a couple a days ago about the cool skin of Noclip and your ongoing design / server test. How is it working ?? - I look for such an amazing "look & feel" for my own wiki, which is set up on MediaWiki 1.11.1 (January 2008 version inclusive all new security patches). Does it work with this version ?? - Nice weekend / Hearing from you... --ElJay Arem - (talk) 16:08, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

While i havn't really actually done that much to it, and i'm still very new to php, but i see no reason why it should not work on the latest version of mediawiki. The version i'm testing on is 1.11.0rc1. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Template:Popular articles/recent

Ping! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware of the issue. Basically Leon's tool which my bot got the data from has not been maintained for quite a while. Recently the toolserver folks rearranged stuff, and no one has fixed leon's tool. On the bright side, Wikipedia currently has real stats coming from wikimedia servers, which might spread to us at some point, but in the mean while we do not have any data source for statistics. (come on irc if you have questions) Bawolff ☺☻ 23:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Newcomer

Could you explain to me what can I do, I'm recently new to wikinews. I don't want to create news articles but is there any maintenance tasks which I can do, my userpage & subpages have all been fully set-up but I wouldn't mind helping out if possible. Terra ^{What do you want?} 10:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Responded on your talk. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Anonymous101/Sandbox/PD Article

That page seems to imply you're checking them all by hand. Thats really something that should be done by a computer as doing it by hand must get rather boring. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not checking them all in one day. I'm not checking them as there is a dpl to check them. I am just marking them --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Your user page

The spider man image that was on your user page has been deleted (it was a copyvio apparently). Therefore, I suggest the you take the image of your user page. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 16:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, geuss that had to happen sometime :(. Oh well. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Template:Popular articles

Any idea on when we could get an update on this? Cirt - (talk) 09:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Midnight of never. The page was updated based on a tool on the toolserver. Since that has disappeared, it can't be updated as it has no info. If you know of any places with such info available, please let me know. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

To Bawolff

Hey Bawolff i know your probably very busy at the moment so please don't rush to answer this i just wanted to know if my articles are okay? ty --Newshybrid059 - (talk) 01:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

My RFA

I am, once again, putting myself up for Rfa. I would appriciate it if you could stop by My RFA and vote. Wheter support or oppose I would appriciate your vote to avoid another situation of having too few votes.-Ryan524 (talk) 23:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Bawolff/archives. You have new messages at User Talk:Anonymous101. You can remove this notice by removing {{replied}} from your talk page.

Hello, Bawolff/archives. You have new messages at User Talk:Anonymous101. You can remove this notice by removing {{replied}} from your talk page.

Accreditation

Hi Bawolff! You know that I'm most active in it.wikinews, but I'm so interesting to accreditation. Because of Italian law we have many problems to have accreditation, so, I decided to ask you if I can request it on en.wikinews. I understand almost the entire policy, and the request seems quite easy, but I wanted to ask you if it were difficult to obtain because I am more active on another project. Thanks for your help :-) --Stef Mec (talk) 08:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Generally it is harder as accreditation is essentially the comunity saying, that you are a) a good person, and b) not going to do anything stupid. While you probably meet thoose criteria, it is much harder to judge if you are not an active member of the en community, as people here don't interact with you as much. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Re Questions

Found the MUFON reports on Stephenville, Texas. Can you fix that article?65.173.105.27 07:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I can try. but you have to bear in mind that i am not overall that familiar with the actual writing side of this site, so it may need someone else to help it a long. (like for example, I'm not sure if the ufo sources are considered sufficiently different) Bawolff ☺☻ 07:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Audio wikinews RSS feed

I just got your message on my talk. Still need help? terinjokes | Talk 17:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

We discussed that over email a while back. Don't really remember what happened with it, but i don't need help with it anymore. Thanks for asking. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I thought we did... with us looking like we'll get native RSS feeds, shouldn't be much of a problem anymore. terinjokes | Talk 04:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Welcome

Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Wikinews:Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly.

Bawolff/archives, welcome to Wikinews! Please refrain from using content pages for testing. Here are a few good links for newcomers on how to edit Wikinews:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these!

• Wikinews:Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
• Wikinews:Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced

Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews:

• Wikinews:Introduction - overview of the site
• Wikinews:Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
• Wikinews:Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
• Wikinews:Style guide - how an article should look before publishing
• Wikinews:Contents - the contents page.

There are always things to do on Wikinews:

• Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
• The front page lead articles often need updating
• Developing stories need finishing and publishing
• Discussions need your input
• And of course, stories need writing!

By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes (~~~~), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! terinjokes | Talk 14:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow, you mean to say I can like edit this thing? Awesome!!!!11111. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Template

Can we kill that template. It asked for more than one source. Found three of them. Thanks for the assisstance.65.173.105.27 08:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

To tell you the truth, I'm not all that familiar with article writing. We could probably kill the template, but we should only change its status to {{ready}} so that someone else who knows what they are doing can give it a once over. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Someone claimed the article is not ready.65.173.105.27 22:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

hmm, sorry, but i really am not all that good at the article side of this site. I'm sure the people who commented on the talk page of the article would be able to help you much more than i can. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

WOW

WOW we get almost 22k hits a DAY?!?!?! No way! That's insane. I didn't think anyone read this damn page. Well I'm back in action with Audio Wikinews. .:*:*:DAVUMAYA:*:*:. (talk) 08:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

lol. yeah, the statistical stuff surprised me to. bear in mind that the stats include google bot, botnets, etc, but still. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I think the problem in the past is we have had to rely on Alexa. This gathers statistics from people who install a toolbar which I believe is Internet Explorer only. As I think they're also selling statistical information, the level of detail we can get from them for free just doesn't cut it. In any case, even if 10% of our traffic is software agents such as Googlebot, the figures are pretty good. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 09:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

On top of that, many anti-spyware packages identify the alexa toolbar as spyware and remove it, so their ability to track people is most likely falling. Alexa really only tells you useful stuff if your big enough everyone uses you (like wikipedia). But it should be noted there are many lines in thee statistic file (I assume) trying to use us as an open proxy (although generally its not very much, so it shouldn't throw off hit number. 50 starting with [hH]ttp:// occurred on July 14 2008 between 14:00-15:00):

en.n http://wiki.w2n.net/special/Search/Osama_bin_Laden 1 1021
en.n http://wiki.w2n.net/special/Search/Raised_on_Rock/For_Ol%5C'_Times_Sake 1 1044
en.n http://wiki.w2n.net/special/Search/Sean_O%5C'Donnell 1 1025
en.n ../../../../../etc/passwd 1 1025

As well as some interlanguage interwiki linking (if you link [[n:zh:some page in chinese]] from the english wikipedia, the link first goes to us (and gets counted as a hit, I believe) and then goes to the apropriate page on zh). However linking from the zh wikipedia directly to zh wikinews does nott have this affect (96 hits of this type occurred on July 14 2008 between 14:00-15:00)

en.n nl:Gebruiker:Stevenfruitsmaak 1 986
en.n nl:Special:Search/%C4%82_%C4%86%E2%80%99%C4%82%CB%98%C3%A2%E2%80%9A%C2%AC%C3%82%C2%B0ditions_Privat 1 1061
en.n nl:Special:Search/18._%C3%A5rhundrede 1 994
en.n nl:Special:Search/7x.nl:Uitgelicht/Burundi 1 1004
en.n de:Kategorie:Franz%C3%B6sisch-Polynesien 1 997
en.n de:Kategorie:Liberia 1 977
en.n de:Kategorie:Marokko 1 1167

So then that just leaves googlebot/other spiders, which we can't really take into account (next we need user-agent stats). But yes, I believe the statistics print a pretty picture :). Bawolff ☺☻ 09:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Popular articles

Seems that the list stopped updating. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 14:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes I know, I am currently away, and can't update it. Instructions on how its done is on the bots userpage if someone wants to take over for the summer. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Bawolff, will you run your bot continuously or just for today? Would you allow me to make some small changes to your script in future? 1. "this">"last" and 2. adding a link to further daily/monthly sum-up (when having fetched up August; maybe just as noinclude)? --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 23:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Just for the next couple of days. It basically runs when my computer is on, and i will be away again for another month after a couple of days. As far as changes go: certainly. Code is meant to be modified. (as in I'll change it as soon as i have a moment. I'm a little busy at this particular moment) Bawolff ☺☻ 23:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Done, see diff. By the way: If it is really desired by the community to have an hourly top list on maybe the Main_Page or so (see Wikinews:Bots#user:Bawolff_bot), I could update those stats as long as you are away. But currently the list doesn't seem to be used very much. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 00:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

After rewriting my scripts for this hourly task, my bot now updates the template. I hope this is useful. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 17:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Alright. I think its useful. One of my eventual plans to make it more useful (which i never did do) was to add magic template code so it could be called as {{popular articles|count=5|noshowhitcount=true}} to customize the list, but i never got around to doing that. I'll disable my bot now, and let yours take over. Make sure you get your bot approved if you havn't already done so. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Like you might have seen, the current way of use is {{popular articles|top=5|nohits=true}}. I think it is better to say "show me 10 items" instead of "show me those with more hits than", as hits vary too much. Bot request filed, now. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 23:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

FlaggedRevs

If you have not already seen this, please look, comment, and vote both here and on bugzilla. Further assistance such as contact information for Google would be a very useful detail to share and help in petitioning for a listing in their news index. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews:Bots protection

Good point, my mistake. Cirt (talk) 04:05, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Error Message

Here is the error message:

Line: 341
Char: 32
Error: Expected indeifier
Code: 0
URL: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Bawolff/sandbox/ticker

Anonymous101^talk 08:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

My bot

Sorry about those mistakes. Still ironing out some problems. The bot's intended usage is to flag pages for speedy deletion, or to find copyright violations. It should take about 3 - 4 days to fix it then. Apologies if my comments seem rushed, I'm on a public computer now. --Kalspring (talk) 12:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

DPL help

If you can, please help out with Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#How_to_get_2_categories_to_output_in_the_same_DPL.3F. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 05:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

See [30] and then: Error: Too many categories! -- Any idea what went wrong? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 20:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

DPL has a limit on how many categories/notcatagory clauses (~6 or something) for what I would assume be performance reasons. There's really no way around it. (guess that makes recatergorizing things the only option) Bawolff ☺☻ 06:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

ticker at wikilusa

Hello Bawolff i was lookink for a ticker news and i found you :). Could you please help to try on this new project? Its wikilusa .com thanks ;) 213.22.215.45 09:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Certainly. I'm a little busy at the moment, so it might take me a while to respond, but I'll help the best i can. What specifically do you need help with? Bawolff ☺☻ 05:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello Bawolff thank you for your attention. We are talking about a new portuguese wiki and we would like to put your ticker in it, but we have the technical issue... you know. ;). If possible we would like to show also portuguese news. We have one user to do translations so if you have some time to spend with this project we would be much apreciated. Congratulations for your work also in Portuguese 250 millions of native talking people ;))) PTorg (talk) 13:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Message from WN User Iceflow

Hi. I have been advised to leave you a message - We have a wikinews user who has imported an antivandal javascript into WN from Wikipedia - its not intended for use here and I am worried that it may cause damage if he attempts to use it. I was asked to leave this message by Amgine - AutisticPsycho is deleting the javascript, and the user who did this is Flewis. He's only been here since 30/Sept. Figured you needed to know. Thanks! Iceflow (talk) 02:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I left said user a message. Thanks for letting me know. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks you so much for writing some quiz questions. I will try and add some tomorrow if you don't finish. Anonymous101^talk 20:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I doubt I'll have time to do much more at the moment. Thanks for the thanks though. 22:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

audio box

I uploaded what I see at Template talk:Audio box. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

ok. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I think you did fix it. Sorry, I purged the main page cache instead. --SVTCobra 00:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

no problem. Glad its working. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:22, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

pedialite

Does en.wn have an equivalent of wikt:Template:pedialite, a small li one-line link to a wikipedia article? if not, it'd be a really cool addition, as long as it wasn't so complex that people can't understand how it works. Better for sourcing when one is referencing a half-dozen wp articles. - Amgine | ^t 19:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Not to my knowladge. really we only have {{wikipedia}}. Why not just make a normal link though:

• Look up foo on wikipedia
• Look up foo

Bawolff ☺☻ 03:06, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Horizontal infoboxes

Per your request, see my mockup. Obviously there would be background colouring and things like that, but this is mainly to illustrate the layout/content. Re-read the spec I wrote then look at what I've done as a graphic and it'll probably all make sense. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 09:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

please? :)

Hey Bawolff! Could I ask you to help me introduce the ticker in es.wikinews? I'm really js=0 :(. Would you mind? Pretty pleaseeeee? :P - Julián ^(reply) 23:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd love to help, but I can't today. but i will help you with it when i have time Bawolff ☺☻ 00:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure, there's no rush. Thanks - Julián ^(reply) 00:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

typos in interviews

IMO its pretty obv that he meant to type technical. had it been something that may have meant another thing or was out of context i would have left it. im open to [sic]'s though, but didnt think it merited it. regards --MarkTalk to me 03:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

ok, its probably fine as you edited it. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Wikinews_on_mobile_phones

Oops, I deleted my comment? I accidently posted the comment twice so I meant to remove one copy but I removed both. Stupid me. I'm doing well at making stupid errors like this atm, in the last day I have used the name George Washington when creating an article on John Adams at sco.wp, reverted a reversion of vandalism as it looked like vandalism to me, and made this stupid commenting error. I need more sleep. Anonymous101^talk 19:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, I've done my share of stupid things too ;). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

JS Skills

Hey bawolff. to save me some anger, was just trying to adapt the UTC clock gadget code so it could be embedded into a page. You able to code that up by any chance. If not ill have to get my hammer out and start hitting the pc :p cheers --MarkTalk to me 22:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Well we can't have you beating an innocent PC now can we. I'll look at the code. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

cheers :)--MarkTalk to me 23:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

yes thats excellent :D my plan was to add it to the election article, dont know if i left it too late to ask, but im sure it would look good on the main page too. cheers --MarkTalk to me 01:07, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Let the groveling begin!

You dear, kind, handsome man; I have traveled these long wikilands in search of your guidance, because the good people of IRCdom informed me of your generous genius (and affinity for assertive alliteration?) (additional assonance in aforementioned asking?).

In short, I was trying to copy over {{Howdy}} to Wikisource, but ran into some JS troubles at s:Template:Welcome2 and hoped you might show me what I'm doing wrong, to get the tabs to work properly. It's probably something basic and simple, I'm just a dunce :) Sherurcij 23:07, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

User RadioUK

Just like WikiNews is a free news site, I operate RadioUK, a free radio. So, yes to your inquery. RadioUK (talk) 06:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

User Preferences

I don't know if you're the one to talk to about this, but I ran into a little problem with the User Preferences page. I made several changes to my preferences, and each time it wouldn't let me save the changes unless I filled in the "New Password" boxes. It just kept giving me an error saying my password had to be at least 1 character long. Gopher65_talk 03:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Post-election spam

Thank you for supporting me for adminship. :) I'll try to make you glad you did it. So here's a Nadezhda "Harry S. Truman" Durova campaign song. All the best, Durova (talk) 00:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Cover page to the sheet music

I'm Just Wild About Harry

lol. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Global bots

Did you mean to support the Wikinews:Global Bots policy or just comment on it? Your comment has been converted to a support vote while this might not be what you intended.

There is further discussion on the talk page of this proposed policy. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 19:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

More meant as a voting is evil but i like the idea style comment, but feel free to reformat it in whatever way is useful. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: {{Howdy-anon}}

Thanks. Anonymous101^talk 07:55, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Feeling Bored

You dont feeling bored while contributing to Wikinews again and again . Will you tell me if is there any kind of money or reward we gaining by contributing to this site or just waisting our time.--202.69.15.12 14:21, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

There is no monetary reward, however its not boredom (trust me, I have lots of things to do that are not-wikinews related, which i should probably do more of over wikinews). I personally find contributing very rewarding, And that is because i do things that I enjoy. You'll notice if you go through my contributions that most of what I do is not writing articles—I am personally not the greatest writer, and don't really enjoy that. However there are many things here that I do enjoy doing. There is also the reward of seeing something you do appreciated by others, and seeing what you do is seen by other people. For example, While we were publishing Chris Benoit mystery editor confesses: Claims "terrible coincidence", it was an extremely exciting time to be on #wikinews, as we could really tell that what we did affect the world in some small way. It may be rather insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but its cool to see something you helped create being talked about by a great many people around the world. [that paticular article was cited by many other news sources, including some major ones] Really its pretty similar to why be involved in any other wiki, or (I assume) open source type project. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I, User:Florentino Floro, share and bestow upon Bawolff this Wiki New Year cookie for consistently writing excellent articles on Wikinews

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Spread the goodness of cookies by adding this Cookie to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks so much. I just have the luxury of TIME that most of you who are employed do not have. Happy Holidays.--Florentino Floro (talk) 06:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Bot

Toolserver is one really bureaucratic place (don't quote me publicly! ;) ). I forgot my ssh-key password and I still didn't get access there again (I sent new key). So, I'll make one server functional for Wikimedia purposes in the company where I am working; and I'll move my cron tools there. I hope that I'll finish everything in a week or two (including adding new Wikinews editions). --millosh (talk) 12:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, I have new major version of statistics bot... I think that I'll turn it on instead of fixing the previous version. --millosh (talk) 12:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Sources

Thanks for your message. It is really headache for the peer viewer to see tons of sources. I had shared my mind and suggestions(put the tons of sources on the articles' talk pages instead if more than 5)[31] Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 10:20, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I need a bit of help

I'll be getting off for the night but I wanted to know if you could help me with some pages tommorow?(RIP Jeff)[[User:Gears of War|<font face="Lightning" size="2.0" color="#7D0008"> '''Gears'''</font>]][[User talk:Gears of War|<font face="Lightning" size="2.3" color="#7D0008"> '''of War'''</font>]] '''2''' (talk) 06:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if I'll be online tommorow, but if I am here, I'll help however I can. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:50, 20 January 2009 (UTC) p.s. Please see w:Wikipedia:Fix your signature

Thanks & some questions

Thanks for you help on some of my articles to date.....i must admit i question some people views but that is the wonder of such a public forum and community....maybe im just more used to writing editorial for commercial publications where the more one sides the better :)

Seriously....appreciate the help

I have an article in development / prepare that i want to delete....what is the magic command in wiki for "delete sesame"

[responded on user's talk]. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:18, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Disease

Thanks, I missed adding that one as well. Cirt (talk) 22:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

no problem. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:16, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer

Well relating to your answer, everything looks justified, well in that case i would like you to delete all the articles written under that name with other alias too. Thanks again for clarifying me. Syedatif (talk) 07:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Glad i could clear things up. I believe all your articles have already been deleted. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Confirmation of vote

This is a message to let you know that I've confirmed the vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sigma_7&diff=prev&oldid=268279448 --Sigma 7 (talk) 17:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Business Communications Manager

Hello. I noticed that you are active today. Since you are an administrator, could you please delete this non-news article? Thank you. -- ♪TempoDiValse♪  00:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Caught me just in time, I was just about to leave. :) - Its deleted now. Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Diamond Bar

YOU MAY WANNA CHECK RECENT CHANGES THIS GUY (Diamond Bar) IS GOING BALLISTIC (WITH CURSE WORDS) HELP ME PLEASE!!!!! Newser (talk) 05:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

CAN YOU HELP MAN THIS IS SERIOUS!!!??? Newser (talk) 05:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox

Thank you for clearing the sandbox. SriMesh | talk 22:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

DPL for OR

I am trying to do a Wikimania 2009 presentation. I was wondering if you can make a DPL that would organize all the OR we have into tallies for each year...aka a DPL for 2004's OR, 2005's OR. I need a total count of OR articles from each year WN has been active, including this year. Is that possible? Let me know what if anything that can be done. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Not really possible with DPL. Probably doable with the api though. I'll look into it when i have the chance. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Only counting things in the main ns (theres some talk pages with that cat that i'm not counting)
• Bear in mind this is approximate, and could have errors. In paticular, if the category timestamp was changed after the fact (The OR category was removed and re-added, or, if the article got moved [this is fixed now, but in the past that'd change the timestamp]. Usually this would happen when an article is substantially vandalized (blanked, or replaced). However, archiving usually stops this from causing such things to happen between years.)
  • There's probably a more precise way of doing this based on date categories, but its much more complicated.
• I have no idea when the or template/category came into use. its possible older OR articles weren't tagged.
• First OR article: Conference discusses the credibility of blogs - 2005-07-02T04:39:13Z
• 2004: 0
• 2005: 224 (between: 2005-07-02T04:39:13Z to 2005-12-30T20:19:52Z)
• 2006:418 (between 2006-01-02T06:14:28Z and 2006-12-30T19:04:15Z)
• 2007: 473 (between 2007-01-02T23:49:49Z and 2007-12-27T16:21:08Z)
• 2008: 417 (between 2008-01-01T07:31:14Z and 2008-12-30T15:49:37Z)
• 2009 (up to 06:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC) as year not done yet): 36 (between 2009-01-10T00:29:35Z and 2009-03-17T00:14:58Z)

The following pages were not counted, as they are not in the main namespace:

<cm ns="2" title="User:Sj/EmTech" timestamp="2005-09-28T19:41:13Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:Template messages/General" timestamp="2006-01-03T05:42:45Z"/>
<cm ns="10" title="Template:Katrina college list bottom" timestamp="2006-01-03T05:55:04Z"/>
<cm ns="1" title="Talk:Donald Tusk leads in 1st Round of Poland's Presidential Election; 2nd Round will take place on 23rd October" timestamp="2006-01-03T05:56:46Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:WikiFootball:Community Help" timestamp="2006-01-29T20:06:06Z"/>
<cm ns="2" title="User:Kokopoko/Article" timestamp="2006-02-19T05:43:38Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews interview with Katelyn Tarver" timestamp="2006-03-11T00:23:29Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:Transcripts/newPage" timestamp="2006-03-18T03:45:43Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews interview with Christopher Cerf" timestamp="2006-03-25T18:22:29Z"/>
<cm ns="2" title="User:Arthur MacMillan/fhqwgads" timestamp="2006-08-14T11:46:00Z"/>
<cm ns="100" title="Portal:Original reporting" timestamp="2006-09-25T05:45:49Z"/>
<cm ns="2" title="User:Edbrown05/Evictions thwart rowdy party goers’ plans at South Carolina beach resort" timestamp="2007-06-18T05:34:57Z"/>
<cm ns="1" title="Talk:Peace activists propose 'Fast for Freedom'" timestamp="2007-08-30T22:53:05Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews interviews Tory Christman, ex-Scientologist and notable critic" timestamp="2008-03-11T08:20:50Z"/>
<cm ns="2" title="User:Brianmc/Wikinews questions Senior Counterterrorism Counsel of HRW on Camp Delta and more" timestamp="2008-03-18T21:12:04Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:Story preparation/2008-09 Bundesliga: Matchday 1" timestamp="2008-07-01T14:39:02Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews interviews: Maddy Prior" timestamp="2008-10-17T18:22:34Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:2005/June" timestamp="2009-01-20T20:31:25Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:2005/June/11" timestamp="2009-01-20T20:31:25Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:2005/June/12" timestamp="2009-01-20T20:31:25Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:2005/June/14" timestamp="2009-01-20T20:31:26Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:2005/June/16" timestamp="2009-01-20T20:31:26Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:2005/June/18" timestamp="2009-01-20T20:31:26Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:2005/June/19" timestamp="2009-01-20T20:31:26Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:Story preparation/Jimmy Wales discusses Wikipedia's Flagged Revisions proposal with Wikinews" timestamp="2009-02-02T15:03:39Z"/>
<cm ns="4" title="Wikinews:Original reporting" timestamp="2009-03-14T06:11:46Z"/>
<cm ns="14" title="Category:Interview" timestamp="2009-03-14T06:19:00Z"/>

Hope that helps. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

WOW...thanks so much! Yes...I now have the slide done that I have been dreading. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

AbuseFilter

Update: Looks like it is working pretty well already at en.wikipedia - how much longer do you want to wait before reconsidering support? :P Cirt (talk) 11:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd prefer to wait a week or two to see if any major issues develop. However as long as we're not using it to autoblock people, I don't have strong opinions. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Waiting a week certainly sounds reasonable. Cirt (talk) 05:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:infoboxes

Thanks man, these are perfect! And as you can see, I'm already putting them to use! lol. Thanks again! Hunter Kahn (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Glad to be of assistance. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Pennsylvania lost 41,000 jobs in February, a 13-year high

Thanks, I responded! Hunter Kahn (talk) 13:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Tempodivalse/Writing contest

Hi! I'm sending out this message to all our active contributors. Just wanted to let you know that the writing competition discussed at the water cooler has now been started. The deadline for registration is March 31st, in case you wanted to join. Thanks. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 18:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite, but, as you may or may not have noticed, I don't actually do all that much constructive things around here, so i probably won't join. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:infoboxes

Thanks for letting me know, I fixed it. — Hunter Kahn _(contribs) 05:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

WN:RFA

Hi! I've nominated you for bureaucratship. Please indicate whether you accept the nomination at the nomination page. Thanks, tempodivalse 17:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki

I 'm so Thanks for the answer! You help me a lot!

Vitorbraziledit ^talk 15:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Glad i could help. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Help Search, Templates and {{TalkBack}}

Hiya. I've been sent your way to ask if there's an equivalent, in wikinews, to wikipedia's {{talkback}} template. Would you know? Also, and I may be impatient or unobservant, I couldn't see a list of templates in wikinews, nor a Help Search facility? Best regards, Trafford09 (talk) 13:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Responded on users talk. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:27, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

RfB

I, Brian, acting upon the advice and consent of the Cable of Wikinews Incorporated hereby promote you to the rank of bureaucrat of the Wiki! Congard!! Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 21:36, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

So, do i get a nicer car? :P. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

As a member Wikinews Cable Inc you receive access to our Learjet, to jet to the scene of breaking news :) Brian | (Talk) | ^{New Zealand Portal} 11:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Also thank you to everyone who voted for me. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! Cirt (talk) 02:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Ditto. tempodivalse 02:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Your user page

I've indef semi'd it, along with a move protection, because I think it's been defaced too often by vandals. Hope you don't mind. (If you don't want the page to be protected, just revert me.) tempodivalse 13:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

yep, thats fine - thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:20, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Aurora Borealis caused by electrical space tornadoes

Thank you for your comment and observation, and it did improve the article. This has been resolved now I think.SriMesh | talk 18:22, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Re templates e.g. talkback

Hiya. Thx for your info. re the templates. Trafford09 (talk) 10:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Water cooler

Can you answer me here?

Thanks! Vitorbraziledit ^talk 03:05, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Transclusions at the wc

No problem, I'm fine with it. Now that the wc has been archived, it's much easier to load the page. Thanks for all the archiving. Tempodivalse [talk] 22:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

yeah, it can really get long when the archiving gets behind. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikinewsie wiki

Skinning the Wiki. If we want to do a quick and dirty import of a skin/CSS to differentiate the wiki from Wikinewsie, what would be the fastest way to do this?

P.S. you're now sysop/bureaucrat on the wiki and may have to handle user requests as I've disabled account creation for non-sysops. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 08:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

cool! - As for skin, the current thing looks fine to me. (other options is basically steal from meta:Wikinews design contest) Bawolff ☺☻ 23:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Current bookjive would be better if the namespace descriptions were properly shown at the top of the page. The other big headache I have is that I've secured it so anons can only access a whitelisted set of pages (like main_page and special:userlogin). I'd like to whitelist an entire namespace - "Public:". I see this as a way to replace the never completed reporter profiles on the wikinewsie main page and - hopefully - embarass people into filling something out. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 00:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. What do you mean by namespace descriptions? for per namespace restrictions - mw:Extension:NamespacePermissions or mw:Extension:Lockdown might be what your looking for. The other way you could go about doing it is to have some sort of bot look at the specific pages in the namespace in question, and copy them to plain html files somewhere else in the server at regural intervals. That would bypass mediawiki entirely, which doesn't seem to be exactly designed with security in mind (based on all the warnings). (but otoh its ugly and more complicated) Bawolff ☺☻ 01:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Social bookmarking of Wikinews articles

I'm looking at this and thinking we could do virtually all of it without an extension. Most of the bookmarking links could be built in wikicode and I'd guess you can do something with the site .js/.css to suppress the external link graphic and make the bookmark page open in a new window/tab. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 08:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Yep most definitly do-able. responded more fully on the water cooler. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:57, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I think we're down to the last step - which is to get the popup working reliably. I disagree with DragonFire1024 on 'new tab' as, at least for facebook, the popup will auto close when you've used it.

Added a comment about using a name other than "_blank" for the window name - I had problems and suspect this was the cause, see discussion for comments.

I really want to get this on {{publish}} in the next couple of days. I think having it on old articles is worthwhile; I've often seen on the BBC's list of 'most shared' older news that is tangentially related to current stuff. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 15:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think _blank is the issue- more that originally it was only enabled on the template page. it should work everywhere now. See my comment on the water cooler. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Open_in_a_new_window

Please see my comment, but really all it is that Twitter will automatically shorten the URLs. See http://twitter.com/calebrw/status/2005403861 Calebrw (talk) 02:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

H1N1 article

Thank you :) --Kattekrab (talk) 07:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bombing of Peshawar Pearl Continental kills 11

I'm sorry you don't feel for those poor dead folks and their families. To say that this horrible tragic event is meaningless and unimportant is WRONG. It sickens me that you would make comments like that.

I'll take that under consideration. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Template_talk:Howdy#MediaWiki:Welcomecreation

Please see Template_talk:Howdy#MediaWiki:Welcomecreation. Your input on some CSS is requested. Calebrw (talk) 23:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Template_talk:Popular_articles#Discrepency_between_FF_and_Safari.2FIE

Please take a look at Template_talk:Popular_articles#Discrepency_between_FF_and_Safari.2FIE. Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 23:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Norwegian military security agency accused of conducting illegal surveillance of PM

It'd appear [32] shoved it to the top of new stories. Any ideas why? Computerjoe's talk 22:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

[responding on computerJoe's talk page]. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Replies there. Computerjoe's talk 17:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

from Computerjoe's talk

Norweigian article going to top of dpl's

This is due to how DPL's work. DPL orders things by the date that {{publish}} was added to the article (it ignores the date in {{date}} in all but a few specialized pages. Things like template:Latest news being the exception). The vandal removed the publish template, in essence depublishing it. When i reverted the vandal this re-added {{publish}}. The dpl treats this as me republishing the article, and uses the date that i reverted the vandal as the date the article was published instead of the original publish date. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

This is sub-optimal. Any way the DPL can look at sighted revisions only? --SVTCobra 23:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

[repeating what I said on irc in case someone else is reading this and is curious] In short I have no idea. Currently I believe dpl looks at the category links table which is basically a table of the page (number) the category it links to, and the date the category link was made. I don't know if there is some equivelent way of doing it for sighted revs (If i was to geuss, i'd say probably not efficiently, but it'd be a question to ask the devs). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Who would fix this? Computerjoe's talk 21:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

a dev. i don't know which one though. Generally we file a bug and hope it gets fixed. from what i understand flagged revs doesn't really keep track of categories, so i don't know if such a fix is likely (OTOH i am not a dev, and do not really know how these things work, so i most definitly could be wrong on that point).As an alternativive, perhaps it might be possible to sort based on day first sighted or something. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

BOT-Superzerocool

Hi, thanks you by the good news :). I have a question: How I make my bot update interwikies in locked pages?. Currently my bot doesn't update the interwikies in old pages because there are protected and -obviously- my bot doesn't has the sysop right. In es.wikinews we have a special permission "editor de prensa", which had rights to edit these pages. Do you have some idea? Superzerocool (talk) 02:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

No, unfortunately we have no such user group (we have Wikinews:Editor but they can't edit locked pages). Only sysops are able to edit archived pages. Tempodivalse [talk] 03:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

It was suggested on the water cooler at one point, but was not implemented due to lack of interest. If there is interest in it, it is my understanding that with community concencuss its just a bugzilla request away. Currently we just make such bots sysOps. (Put a request on WN:RFP under the normal request for admin rights section. bear in mind however, just because it would be useful for an interwiki bot to have the flag doesn't mean it will automatically get it. In the past the community has been a little touchy about interwiki bots, so no guarantees such a request would be successful, but thats the way to go about getting your bot sysop flagged. In any case it doesn't hurt to try.). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I will consider do a request in WN:RFP to my bot. :)... Superzerocool (talk) 05:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Bot discussion

As someone listed as having an active bot I would like to draw your attention to the following issue. This may not affect you unless your bot edits sighted pages - eg in the Template namespace - but as a bot operator your input is likely to be better informed. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 09:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Google news problem

Hi, I noticed that DRAFT copies of articles are also finding their way into google.com results (before they've been properly vetted) and hence mirror sites may use defective copy if they scour this content (eg may be a copypaste). I can't see a way of adding this comment to the water cooler, so I'll post it here. Please feel free to copy this text elsewhere as appropriate or point others here:

I run an Apache web server and (fwiw) I have a few lines of defence against this sort of thing:

• edit robots.txt in the web document root to exclude all user agents (crawlers and bots) from indexing certain pages and specific problematic user agents from indexing any pages. You can use a pattern match with some user agents like google, but not others. This works for those user agents that don't simply choose to disregard robots.txt.
• if that fails, I can set up pattern-based rules in my Apache security module to do things like redirect the browser or crawler to another page (301), issue a page not found (404) or a forbidden (403) response; etc.
• I can also use rewrite rules in the web server configuration to change the web address so that only my preferred addresses are reached eg changing "myweb.net?cat=love&x=36&etc" (which can lead to penalties for duplicated content) to myweb.net/love", and so forth. Google also recognizes "rel=canonical" to suggest the address they should use when indexing content.
• if all else fails, I can block specific ip addresses altogether.
• and occasionally emails work, though they tend to be simply ignored, for example when an algorithm in msnbot had it requesting a fresh copy of my newsfeed every 20 seconds and ignoring my server's response of "not modified" (304).

Hope this is of use. Esowteric | Talk 09:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I have moved the copy of this comment that was on the water cooler talk into the existing discussion on the technical section. I see no evidence to back up the assertion that Google News is indexing unpublished main namespace articles. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 10:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Commments

I have posted a question there. Thanks. Calebrw (talk) 18:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Peer review

Bawolff,

Would you mind doing a peer review for an article I've just written? The link is below.

Link: Scandal erupts after U.S. President Barack Obama fires Inspector General Gerald Walpin

Thanks! --WNewsReporter (talk) 06:59, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Someone has already reviewed it before i read this. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Ticker

Hi Bawolff-I think I'm right in saying you're the guy to talk to re. the ticker. On my userpage, I would like it all to be white so it shows up properly-any chance you can tell me how to do that? It's really cool by the way, well done! Cheers! Dottydotdot (talk) 17:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Responded on user's talk page. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

${\color {Blue}{\mathfrak {Wikinews}}}:{\color {Sepia}The\;Free\;News\;Source}$

Notice of Appreciation

The irony of giving you your own barnstar! Thanks for doing that for me! Dottydotdot (talk) 20:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

lol, your welcome. Bawolff ☺☻

Wikinews interviews former Republican U.S. Senator Bob Smith on his latest run for office

Bawolff,

Would you mind doing a peer review for the article above?

Thanks. --WNewsReporter (talk) 05:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

DPL parameter checking

Hello Bawolff,
I noticed that you corrected the DPL parameter error I found. I installed a complete copy of enwikinews on my local PC and tried the migration from old DPL to the latest DPL version. This helped me to find some errors in the current use of old DPL. For instance the "orcer=" problem affects also the UK template. As you have looked after the US template I would appreciate if you could care for the others as well. (most of the templates are protected so I can't do it myself).

My general feeling is that the new version is just as fast as the old one - but this should better be checked by a person who looks after the current installation of enwikinews. The sources of the new version are already in the "extensions" directory of the server (as they are in the mediawiki subversion system). So the only thing that is needed would be to include in 'LocalSettings.php' the following lines:

1. require_once( "$IP/extensions/DynamicPageList/DynamicPageList.php" ); // to be activated later

 require_once( "$IP/extensions/DynamicPageList/DynamicPageListMigration.php" );
 ExtDynamicPageList::setFunctionalRichness(2);   // my suggestion for the beginning
 ExtDynamicPageList::$maxResultCount = 500;      // this is also the default, it can be adjusted as needed; of course
                                                 // the DPL statements themselves will normally use a much smaller limit
 ExtDynamicPageList::$respectParserCache = true; // default is false, but for a frequently used site 'true' is better
                                                 // results will only be calculated once per day or on explicit demand

With these settings the new DPL version will be installed in __parallel__ to the existing old one. By changing the 'DynamicPageList' tag in a page __temporarily__ to 'Intersection' you can try out the new version on a per-page base. So you do not create big trouble if something goes wrong. Note: the 'DynamicPageList' tag should be changed to 'intersection' and then only the PREVIEW function of Mediawiki should be used. The page itself should not be modified.

Once a couple of pages have passed this test the migration can be completed by switching to the normal 'require_once' statement (which in the first step was commented out). The 'require_once( .. migration ..) is no longer needed and must be deleted or commented out. The require_once( .. intersection ..) for the old version must also be deleted or commented out. All this (and much more) is extensively described in the documentation of the new DPL.

If I can be of any help let me know.

Algorithmix (talk) 07:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Non-wiped hard drives carry U.S. defence contract information in electronic waste sent to Africa to be recycled

Changed as per your feed back on the talk page. Cannot go further with the computer scientist quote, as I am not a computer scientist myself, but if there is one on WN, maybe they can add more regarding your concern. I have to stay within the data presented in the news articles myself. SriMesh | talk 05:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks better now. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Review

• Singer and songwriter Michael Jackson dies at age 50

I don't want to review my own edits, which are unfortunately interspersed with others that are in need of review here. In light of the comments on both its talk and comments pages, and the current viewing statistics for it, the stable version of this article is in need of update sooner rather than later, I suspect. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 05:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks like Calebrw has reviewed it. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandal

What's the protocol for a user like this-Special:Contributions/Hotuyl? Dotty••|☎ 11:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

About Me Section

What do you think about this-Talk:Main_Page#near_the_bottom? Cheers!    Dotty••   07:37, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for answering & reverting the vandalism on my page. How sad.    Dotty••   08:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

re-flag option just added to newsroom

Is there some way for this to automatically pull up the review for the listed page? I flagged an old version of an article to try it, it comes up with the dialogue where you have to enter the article name.

Of course... You may still be working on this. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 16:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Template:Ticker

Hello, I'm an admin on French Wikinews and I want to update the ticker on the French Main Page. I imported the necessary content (I think) but the French template Ticker has a problem; the news are on another line. Could you help me find the problem plz? I don't find the bug Template:=(. Thank you, --Sniff (talk) 23:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC) You can respond here if you want.

There's a missing } in fr:mediawiki:Common.css. I responded in more detail on your fr talk page. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:20, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

OMG! It's only this minor error Template:O o ... Thank you for the help, this template will be a Template:+ for my new Main Page --Sniff (talk) 02:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it always seems to be the tiny errors that are the hardest to find. Good luck with your main page re-design. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Bawolff, you resolved the big problem that I had for the new Main page, it is almost ready now Template:;) Bests regards, --Sniff (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Glad to be able to help. Let me know if there's anything else i can do. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js

Can you please add instructions, at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js? Thank you, Cirt (talk) 01:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Its not really done, and might not work, but instructions have been added. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:28, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I think all you have to do is save importScript('MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js') to your own Monobook page like any other. --SVTCobra 01:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I've turned it into a gadget, as it should mostly work at this point. Just click it in special:Preferences. I'd appreciate any feedback. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Seems to have some errors and isn't really working for me, reports of an edit conflict when there is none. Cirt (talk) 04:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Also got this message:

A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: [object Error] <undefined:undefined>

Not sure what all that is about... :P Cirt (talk) 04:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Out of curiosity, what web browser are you using? I should stress this has not been tested at all yet, and as such, such errors and issues have not been worked out yet. (btw, the error in question indicates that something bad happened during a request to the wikinews api. Its a problem with the script. Don't actually report it to the water cooler.) Bawolff ☺☻ 06:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The specific problem you mentioned seemed to be cause by internet explorer not supporting the hasAttribute method of xml dom elements. (This same issue was also present in the code that determines if the opinion namespace tab should be red or blue). That specific issue should be fixed, however it is quite possible there are others (in fact i would be very suprised if there were not other issues)

Not sure what browser the above error was in - but I just tried again in Firefox and it seems to have worked for adding the review to the talk page - but did not do the other steps. Got the same edit conflict javascript message pop up, and also this:

A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: TypeError: page is undefined <253:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript?230z>

Cirt (talk) 20:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i think i got that one, however there are undoubtedly still other issues. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Again, just reviewed one - it still allows me to post the review to the talk page, but the script does not do any other steps, and still gives an "edit conflict" message. Also it gives this error message at the end:

A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: TypeError: page is undefined <253:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript?233xz>

Cirt (talk) 22:55, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm i think your using a cached version of the script, since i fixed the problem with page being undefined, and line 253 is now a comment, so there shouldn't be any errors on that line. (however the detecting of an edit conflict is probably an issue still at large should be fixed). Try doing a hard refresh sometime before the next time you use it. Thanks for all the feedback, I really appreciate it. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your work on this very useful tool. Cirt (talk) 23:20, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Archiving script

Could you make a script for admins to archive articles? It would give an option to full-protect indef the article, and then add {{archived}} below the {{publish}} tag. Thoughts? Cirt (talk) 04:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I definitly think such a script would be a good idea. Not sure when i will get a chance to do it though, as I'm going to be away again starting next week. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

On French Wikinews, the admin Grondin has a bot (GrondinBot) to archive and protect the published articles after one week. Best regards, --Sniff (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

This would not be a bot, but rather a semi-automated script, to make it easier for individual people to do. Cirt (talk) 20:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't make it "too easy". Articles still need to be looked over. I am still finding spelling errors, etc. when I archive. --SVTCobra 05:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

A script could however potentially reduce the number of clicks required to the tasks that cannot be automated. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:12, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

re: Easy peer review

Yes, it worked well. Thanks very much! Cirt (talk) 10:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Fxmastermind (talk) 16:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Rename request

Could you please rename my account to Christianrocker90 as part of my Global rename?-- † CM16 ^{t _c} 21:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Done Actually Wikinews:Changing username is the proper venue for this, but I don't think it makes much difference. Tempodivalse [talk] 21:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Idin' know that existed or I would have done it there.-- † CR90 ^(talk) 22:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Easy peer review feedback

Hi Bawolff. Just wanted to let you know I've tried your easy peer review widget for the first time today, and I have to say it's excellent. It's much more efficient than manually pasting all the templates and sighting the page. seems to be pretty much bug-free as far as I could tell, i.e. it added all the templates in the correct locations and the dialog box looked good. Thanks for creating such a useful gadget. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 14:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Seconded. Just one comment: it doesn't seem to recognize the {{breaking review}} template. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 14:21, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Thirded-just tried it, very useful! Should they be defaulted to pass?    Tris   16:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Although, it didn't seem to sight that one? Hmmm...I'll check.    Tris   16:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

• Also, the widget doesn't seem to recognise {{source-pr}} and places the publish template above it instead of below it like it does with {{source}}. Tempodivalse [talk] 16:20, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Just got this-A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: badtoken: Invalid token <undefined:undefined> although it seemed to work alright?    Tris   22:57, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

• One other note - it appears the widget sights the penultimate version of a page when adding {{publish}}, but not the last one, which results in the article not immediately going live until it's manually sighted. Tempodivalse [talk] 23:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the issues with breaking review, and various source templates not being recognized (may need to do a hard refresh). The sighting penultimate revision should not happen (It fallsback to the penultimate revision if it can't figure out the current revision) and i'm not sure why thats happening at the moment.I'm also not sure what Tris's issue with having a badtoken is about (however if it has a bad token it should not be able to edit anything at all) - which browser were you using when that happened? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I think i figured out why its sighting the wrong revision, but havn't fixed it yet. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

It should sight the correct revision now. You may have to do a hard refresh to get the changes. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

• I've found one other minor problem with the widget: it appears to add two spaces after the publish tag, when usually only one should be inserted. I don't know if you can fix that? Great job, in any case. Cheers Tempodivalse [talk] 17:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

• Another little issue is that it doesn't handle Template:Ready properly. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 17:35, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

• Comment In creating the final sighted and published version of the article the gadget should place the {{publish}} template immediately before the categories, with one blank line before it, and no blank lines between it and the categories. Good tool, but in dissent from above suggestions I would not have the gadget default to pass for options. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:48, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it defaults to fail. Cirt (talk) 17:50, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

• Everyone is having so much fun attacking Bawolff's talk page, I thought I'd join in too. HIIIIII BAWOLFF!!!!! WAASSSUPPP DUDE?! --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 17:58, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi Shak! I fixed the problem with {{ready}}. The {{publish}} issue I'll look into later. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
• Can I make another request? Can the EPR update the {{date}} headline to make sure it is today (UTC)? We've recently run across a more than a few articles that were misdated because people forget to check/edit that with the easy system (I'm guilty too). Thx --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 23:07, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

  Another note - the gadget seems to be malfunctioning ever after the devs did their last mediawiki update. The auto-sight feature doesn't work any more, and I get an error message after reviewing. Could you take a look at this when you get a chance? Thanks Tempodivalse [talk] 21:46, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

What was the error? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I can't remember now, but it had to do something with API. Tempodivalse [talk] 22:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind i found it (assuming it was a 'syncerror'). Its not my fault. I've filled bugzilla:20705. Manually sight articles until its fixed. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Aaron fixed it. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Tempodivalse [talk] 02:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

FYI, I noticed you put the "Make a Lead" thing in to EzPR. I pop'd up a bit saying something like "do you want to make this a lead" but before I could do anything it rolled over to an error message: --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 21:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

A local JS function experianed an error on an API request. Please leave a note at the Wikinews:Water_cooler. Details: unknownerror: Unknown error:  ``$1 <233:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript>

Thats an error message directly from the api. Since i'm not getting it on my browser, probably means there is a bug somewhere in js sending wrong info in some circumstance. Not sure what cause is as of yet. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:51, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Science and technology output query

Quick query - do you know how to make a page Wikinews:Wikinews Importer Bot/Science and technology Today-1, modeled after Wikinews:Wikinews Importer Bot/Today-1, to only output articles that are included in Category:Science and technology? Cirt (talk) 00:20, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I have fiddled with it to try to use DPL so we don't have to use a bot for it, but it looks like it is not working properly yet to display the articles. Cirt (talk) 12:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I tried going back that many days in show preview, but there was still zero output for articles listed. Perhaps you could try fiddling with the code for the page? Cirt (talk) 18:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

This barnstar is in appreciation of your excellent Easy Peer-Review widget. Thanks much! Tempodivalse [talk] 18:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I will proudly display this on my userpage. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I just want to say that I second this barnstar. Just tried it out and it worked great. Calebrw (talk) 03:49, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Need for javascript trickery

Please see Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#New_users_unaware_of_rules, particularly the subsection containing proposed changes to Common.js. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:47, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

All hail the mighty JS master

I need your help. I'm trying to make MediaWiki:Gadget-UserMessages.js work here on Wikinews. I never leave talk page messages and it's bad form... but my excuse is that Wikinews has different template names that I always forget.... Anyways. I stole it directly from Commons:MediaWiki:Gadget-UserMessages.js. I changed it to be only 2 test templates instead of the 33 they have... but it doesn't work. The toolbox entries are inserted when on a user talk page, if you click them they prompt (or not) properly. But when they reload the page into edit mode, nothing happens. Specifically there is no edit summary, new text in the page nor does it save. I assume there is _something_ missing, but I don't know JS well enough. Thanks! --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 23:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

looking. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:47, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

should be fixed now. I must say I'm not a fan of commons' style of editing via fake url parameters. seems boderline almost xss to me. (Imagine if someone started spamming/tricking people into clicking the following link . (Or worse if the page name is a protected page like the main page and the target is an admin.) It would create a major mess. Of course the risk is limited since everything can be reverted, and only people who purposefully enable the gadget will have it enabled, but still, kind of scary). Bawolff ☺☻ 02:20, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering where the hell the links to insert these templates with the gadget were, the toolbox seems rather inconvenient and out of the way. Is it possible to add them to the dropdown list of options on vector? Not as a full list of all the possible templates, but as "Add default notification template>" leading to a sub-menu of all the available templates. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree, that would be better. Another alternative i was also thinking of was having a section under the toolbox called notify or something (but i like the idea of putting it in the action menu more). The current system of 10 million links in the toolbar is rather ugly. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Which leads me to ask... On a talk page there's an "Add comment" option. Can this be used? Ideally, if you've not selected the gadget it is exactly as currently with vector. If you've added the gadget it displays a list of options when you hover over it. The type of templates it would offer then depending on the type of talk page (article, user, etc). The thing to then deal with is maintenance of the lists of templates (special pages in I-don't-know-what namespace), and have the user shown a description of the template instead of just assuming you know what it is from the template name. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean have a drop down arrow from the add comment tab, with various templates? Bawolff ☺☻ 14:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes. If no gadget, no dropdown. With gadget, "Add Comment" still works as normal if you click it, but a dropdown displays when you put the mouse over it. Then the list of templates is from an editable page per talk namespace with "template name" and some sort of "description" to better know what clicking on it will produce. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:07, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

That sounds rather cool. I'll try to look into how to make that work sometime soon. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:09, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Assuming you get something like that working and tweaked a bit here, I'd make an effort to bring it to the attention of the usability group - they may see some way to make doing things like this easier with Vector. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I've got an initial version of it working. Add var useFancyVectorDropdown = true; to special:mypage/vector.js to make it work (I've already done that for brianmc). It could probably made better so that the dropdown arrow looks more like its attached to edit section. (the gadget in generally could probably made better if it edited using ajax instead of reloading the page). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:06, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Ticker

Hi. I was wondering how could I use {{Ticker|speed=1.3}} on my en.wiki page. Thanks, Gulmammad (talk) 02:05, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

This would require importing the javascript to en wikipedia. This requires permission of an administrator on the english wikipedia. Also note that this would only work with static lists on 'pedia, since DPL is not installed (However you could probably use wikinews headlines via the importer bot)_. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:20, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the explanation. Seems to be not as easy as I thought it would. Gulmammad (talk) 07:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

*Whimpers*

Why are the comments tabs now completely gone? Is this another vector bug? Gopher65_talk 02:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

You don't see them? That's strange, they work for me. Did you try doing a hard refresh/purge your cache? Tempodivalse [talk] 02:49, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Works for me. I'd say also do a hard refresh. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 03:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

It was another bug. (not so much a bug, as vector fixing the old bug that we were working arround, and changing one of the ids on the div containing the navigation tabs). I made modificatons to the js sometime yesterday, so they should work if you do a hard refresh. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:40, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

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Fancy drop down tested. Very cool! Turn it on for everyone to screw with them.--ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 19:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:Statistics

Hi, I've added Category:Statistical templates inside of the Template:Statistics. BTW, new MediaWiki update broke Pywikipediabot and some fixes were needed... --millosh (talk) 23:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. yeah, i've heard about the bot breakage. Wikinews importer bot also broke. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:38, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Bawolff/sandbox/makeLead - kicks pages off my watchlist?

How come when I use User:Bawolff/sandbox/makeLead, it kicks the lede subpages I just edited off of my watchlist? Cirt (talk) 15:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thats interesting. It should not do that. I'll look into that. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

It's still doin it. :P Cirt (talk) 18:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Wiktionary lookup tool

Working on a project requested by an fr.wikinews contributor... Xe was asking if it were possible to add a "word lookup" function so people visiting fr.wn (they get a lot of French-as-a-second-language students) could quickly and easily look up unfamiliar terms in wiktionary. The first beta version can be seen at my monobook.js, and it seems to work. There's some more functionality to add - like a 'hover' effect - but I'd like to hear your feedback as the resident guru. - Amgine | ^t 00:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC) Looks pretty good. I'll be honest, I've never actually used the javascript range api for anything, so I'm not all that familiar with that part of the script, but heres some general feedback:

• If this is enabled by default, people might not expect doubleclicking to have that affect, thus people might get annoyed by random windows opening for no apperent reason (if this is a gadget, than thats not an issue).
  • I'm personally of the opinion, that if i were to use this, I would prefer a hover affect like you mentioned above rather than double clicking.
• The word should be escaped. For example double click on User:Bawolff?action=edit or even ../w/api.php . Well that in itself is a bit confusing but harmless, I'm sure someone could come up with something evil to do with that, and just in general the intent is to find a page with that name, not apply the arguments. Also double clicking on a + sign won't work (it should go to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%2B ) never mind that does work fine. However something like %2B won't go where you think it should.
  • On that note, punctuation marks should probably be stripped. for example double click on the last word of this sentence.
  • Also, string should probably be made lowercase, or at least de-capitalized if not a proper noun (How to determine what is and is not a proper noun is a good question though). Consider the word Not with a capital n (for example if it was at beginning of sentence) OTOH, most of the time, wiktionary takes care of that on their end.
• Double click on blank space. On windows this goes to the nearest word. I'm not sure if thats whats intended.
• The way that you handle events in IE vs moz is a bit confusing at first, but it works, so i geuss thats a matter of taste. However it seems slightly fragile as its concievable that a browser could exist that implements document.all for compatibility with IE, but only implements the standardized event model. I would just make findWord take an argument e, than have the first line of that function be if (!e) e = window.event; and than make it use e for the event object, and split moz and IE by testing for which of the range properties they support. that way its only testing the actual thing, rather than making decesions about which api it supports based on an unrelated thing like document.all[] . However again, its probably just a matter of taste.

Bawolff ☺☻ 18:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

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• Determine if - is a valid word seperator. perhaps try both.
• How to style red links (display none, vs making them red.)

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Issue: How to set up gadget in common.js for fr.wn? Lotsa requests about this 24+ hours ago (was gone/busy most of today) - Amgine | ^t 02:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Language xslt

As soon as you have any other xslt ready, I can try to get them set up on the various wiktionaries. I have contacts and/or requests for support for:

• NL
• NO

Wiktionaries/Languages I'm attempting to contact are:

• DE

OK. Unfortunatly this week i'm very busy, and probably won't have very much time to work on this. French translation should now be working (try doing a hard refresh, and then go to some page with ?uselang=fr on the end, double click on stuff, and the definition should be in french. (I forgot to translate the could not find page text though...). Bawolff ☺☻ 10:32, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Whee. Guess what was in pm today? someone wondering if there's going to be a version of this tool for Wordpress. I have no clue how doable that is, but I said you'd mentioned it once in passing and I'd ask you about it. So, is it possible to do this as a tool for Wordpress (or any other blogging software?) - Amgine | ^t 01:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

yes, it is possible. What i'd need to do is copy some of the support functions from wikibits.js into some other js file, and then have wordpress load the script. However the script loading aspect brings up an important question. There are two ways of doing that:

• Have the blog load the script from the wiki. This is ideal, since i can update the script. However we'd have to make sure the devs are ok with us telling people to hot link to the script. (This seems to be how most people acomplish "add this script to your page" type things).
• Get the script to be locally hosted by the blog in question. But then we wouldn't be able to update the script.

Bawolff ☺☻ 02:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Just asked in IRC:

[1:50pm] Amgine: Question: There's a request to make the wikitionary lookup javascript gadget available for bloggers. The developer wants 
wants to know if devs would oppose hotlinking the script on en.wikinews, which would allow ongoing control/development of the
script?
[1:53pm] Platonides: I don't think there would be a problem
[1:53pm] Platonides: what url is it?
[1:53pm] Amgine: Well, the current script is at http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-dictionaryLookupHover.js
[1:54pm] Amgine: But it's missing a bunch of the wikibits, so it would need to be modified for bloggers.
[1:54pm] Platonides: right, it would need to be modified
[1:56pm] Amgine: Can I post this to the dev?
[1:57pm] Platonides: i'm no sysadmin authority 
[1:58pm] Amgine: <grin> No, I just meant can I log your comments in IRC.
[1:59pm] Platonides: well, if you're asking for permission to repeat that I don't think there would be a problem, you can\
[1:59pm] Platonides: it's probably not too useful...

- Amgine | ^t 21:00, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Cool :). Bawolff ☺☻ 16:34, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Even cooler! http://identi.ca/notice/12399668 - Amgine | ^t 15:22, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Good good (now all i have to do is actually do this ;). Bawolff ☺☻ 16:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

NL Wikt is now ready to be enabled in the script. I'm also adding a table below to show xslt creation, on wiktionary, and script enabled. - Amgine | ^t 20:50, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Languages available

	il8n	xslt	on wikt	enabled
Deutsch	X
English	X	X	X	X
Français	X	X	X	X
Nederlands	X	X	X	X
Norsk (bokmål)‬

Language pokes

DE is translated. DE.wikt admins are ready to add xslt to the site as soon as it's available. - Amgine | ^t 20:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

• On Español, any language *except* Spanish comes up, all from the English wiktionary, when user's language preference is Español. - Amgine | ^t 18:45, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

  The same is true if user language preference is English, French. - Amgine | ^t

• Japanese looks ready to go! - Amgine | ^t 16:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Its enabled. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Forgot to mention this

TestPilot (developer of WikiLook for FF) had some suggestions for code, ideas over at the grease pit (WC:Technical on Wiktionary) - Amgine | ^t 23:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

{{money}}

There's something odd with the {{money}} template. See the template talk page for a couple of odd examples. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:37, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

A 'nit' with a lot of the templates you set up is that it would be really nice to see them documented using the {{documentation}} template. This sorts out a lot of issues with categories for the template as interwiki and template categorisation is on the sub-page where it can be left unprotected, or only semi-protected. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:57, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Done Bawolff ☺☻ 19:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

User talk messages gadget

What about welcoming an IP, and/or welcoming someone that posted on a comments page? Cirt (talk) 16:46, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Which templates would you like me to add. I know we have {{howdy-anon}}. Do we have any for welcoming someone who posted on comments? Bawolff ☺☻ 17:08, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

• {{welcome-comment}}
• {{Howdy-anon}}

I think just these. Cirt (talk) 18:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. May need to do a hard refresh. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:17, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I was CC'd on the various comments WRT our default skin change on how Vector is to be improved, there was something about 'collapsing' page tabs - I assumed into the same drop-down as we've added Review. How hard would it be to add another item to that - "User messages...>", hover at it for a drop-down of available templates (but more descriptively than is currently done in the sidebar), and even have a mechanism to enter a parameter to enter when subst-ing the template somewhere? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 15:26, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

• Let's call it the WalMartGreeterGadget. :-P --Brian McNeil / ^talk 15:27, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I was cc'ed on the bug too. I'd have to see the actual new changes in vector to know. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

• Is it possible to make the gadget run off a page in, say, the MediaWiki namespace? With a list of templates and editable descriptions? Some of the current descriptions are not detailed enough to pick the right template for different types of "wrong" contributions.

I also like how you've integrated it into the Vector tabs. Not quite what I'd ideally like, I want this as a single item on the Vector-standard dropdown, which displays a sub-menu containing the template list when you hover over it.

There's also what I consider a bug, but a minor bug. If you go to a user talk page that does not exist, the drop-down to access messages is not offered.

I think, if you implement the above couple of points, you would have an excellent demonstration for the usability group that this feature should be built right into Vector - and a working demo probably explains better than trying to get an idea across. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 21:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Its possible to make it work off a mediawiki page. The problem is that than one would have to download said mediawiki page, which introduces unnessary overhead (This is only since we're doing all this on the client-side. If this was an actual feature of mediawiki, this would all be done on the server-side, and thus there wouldn't be the extra unnessary ajax request to get the mediawiki page describing the templates). The script itself is somewhat a mess (it was stolen from commons, and from the comments, the script at commons was stolen from another script), and theres quite a few aspects of it i don't like. In paticular there is a ton of duplicated (not to mention messy) code, and it could be used in various nefarious ways. (for example to trick an admin into vandalizing a protected page. Somewhere in my talk page there is an example of such a link. The script now only works in user talk namespace, but earlier it could of caused people to edit things like the main page. Ideally this would not use a url to edit.) I'm aware of the bug with non-exisitant talk pages - basically i havn't got arround to fixing it (The issue is a result of the script failing to find the add comment tab). The options are still there, but they are placed below the toolbox. I was looking at putting it as a sub-menu, which should be possible, it would just take more work. The putting it as an additional drop down didn't take very much work because it re-uses all the stuff from the standard drop-down. As for the terse descriptions, I didn't write them, but i think that was a result of people not wanting the drop-down to be too wide. All of them should have tooltips Bawolff ☺☻ 14:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Make Lead to 6

It's been previously discussed and wanted to have the main page basically "all leads". Well now that we've got an easy lead switcher (Thanks you to and WN:ML), I figure it's about time to implement that. So can you bump Make Lead to include {{Lead article 5}} & {{Lead article 6}}? They will become the new bottom left and right respectively. Once you add them to make lead, I'll put them onto the Main Page and do some other re-arranges. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 18:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment: More leads is one thing, but I like having the list of the articles on the Main Page, in addition to the leads. Cirt (talk) 18:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Another Comment:Seconded-I also like Tempodivalse's design a bit more-User:Tempodivalse/mainpage, with the better categories at the top & the removal of the stocks section. It has more leads, but retains two main ones, which I think is a good thing. Maybe we should have a discussion before a change?(although I'm pretty sure there have been some before I came!). We could just do it all on Bawolff's talk as well!    Tris   18:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Nah, I'd be more for just added two more leads, 5 and 6, of equal size, below, instead of squeezing smaller ones. Cirt (talk) 18:44, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

List of recent news stays. I'm stealing design elements of Tempo's, but not doing the "main leads" versus "sub leads" thing, basically sticking with what we got now but 6 instead of 4. The main thing we have to keep in mind is user screen size. Tempo's page works great on my 1680x1050 screen, but reduce it back down to 1024x768 and the word "Smooshed" comes to mind. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 18:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Okey dokey, sounds fair nuff! How about the cats at the top & the stocks bit?    Tris   18:52, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Come fight it out on my talk page, leave poor bawolff alone. Oh, and I've got my prototype under construction. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 18:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

From last comment by ShakataGaNai, sounds perfect. :) Cirt (talk) 18:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, see this post i made on the proposals water cooler - might be best to direct all discussion over there to keep it centralised. Cheers. Tempodivalse [talk] 19:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Archiving

OOI is there a JS tool for archiving or not?    Tris   17:00, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, there isn't any. Some people use auto-wiki browser to assist with arciving though. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:49, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks anon vs welcome anon

I went to add welcome anon, but it gave thanks anon instead! :( Cirt (talk) 20:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Done. That was probably my fault. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Swap to new system?

Some point in time can we swap to the new lead system so we can rotate the new main page into place? Do you have time in the near future where we can coordinate/do this? Thx. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 05:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe on the weekend. This week is going to be very busy for me. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Review

Please review Leader of Indian BJP party visits Navi Mumbai to support candidates for general election. Thank you, Srinivas 05:10, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Feature "Would be nice" (AKA Request)

For WN:ML, on the recent published list, if it could color the stories in use as leads slightly differently from the rest. Though it really is a "would be nice", other features like dealing with {{breaking}} and {{original}} are much more important on the request scale. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 21:43, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

RE:Indian portal

I am very sorry. I didn't know that. Previously the article which is in No publish was present under Developing Stories but that is not the right place. So do you think the source below Developing stories must be changed from:

<DynamicPageList>
category=India
notcategory=Published
addfirstcategorydate=true
namespace=0
count=10
suppresserrors=true
</DynamicPageList>

to

<DynamicPageList>
category=India
notcategory=Published
notcategory=No publish
addfirstcategorydate=true
namespace=0
count=10
suppresserrors=true
</DynamicPageList>

??? Anyhows, you have a good signature. Srinivas 06:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that sounds good. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

WN:ML Bug

Bawolff: Please see Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Bug_Oct._13.2C_2009. Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

RE: {{image source}}

Thanks a lot again. Flagged revs really helps to get our mistakes sorted out. It is not so on enWP. No one warns us if we made a mistake except for vandalisms. Once we get whitelisted, no one warns us of our mistakes. Thus I support for flagged revs on enWiki. What more, your user page has helped me! I found out the link to this template from your user page: {{Editintro from wikipedia}}. Thanks a lot, Srinivas 07:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad you found the template useful. (I have no idea how you managed to find that from my userpage... or really anything from my userpage, its a bit of a mess). Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

EzReview gadget

Would it be possible to update the gadget to have a third option - "NOT CHECKED" with the user allowed to specify a comment if they select it? There are regularly articles can be failed on one or two points without going to the effort of a full review. So, this would be useful in more quickly highlighting failures on just one or two points. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I was actually contemplating that a while ago, but never really did it. Should be do-able. {{peer reviewed}} would have to modified so it recognizes n/a or something similiar to mean not reviewed. I'll put it on my list of things to look into. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:33, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

First step done. A fail with a comment of n/a will be rendered differently by the template. (however thats far from done, as it will still put the fix this stuff tag on the actual article) Bawolff ☺☻ 19:12, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

• Semi-related, how would you set up a shortcut like WN:MAKELEAD to go into the gadget for lead maintenance directly, as opposed to when reviewing an article? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:28, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

  Nevermind, found it. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:46, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

  • And now had a better idea - if possible - can a "Lead maintenance" link be added in Template:Main page header, but only visible to people with Editor privilege? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

It could be (or perhaps for people who are autoconfirmed?). However i think it'd make more sense to link from the talk page of the Main page. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Done ShakataGaNai did it. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:25, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Picture of the Year 2009

Is there going to be a Wikinews Picture of the Year 2009? --Rayboy8 (talk) 22:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Good question. Basically if someone wants to organize it (preferably that someone not being me ;)), theres no reason not to have it. Would you be up to the challange of organizing it? Basically all that needs to be done is go through {{News in pictures}} (be wary though, the archives don't have all the photos that were there so use the history), and ask arround on irc if anyone has any other photos they want to include. (just basically copy what happened last year on Wikinews:Picture of the Year, but make the eligability to vote rules much simpler as they were much too complicated last year ). Cheers Bawolff ☺☻ 00:49, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

I could help volunteer to set up a POTY if needed - but isn't it a bit early for this at the moment? It's only mid-October. I'd think we should wait at least until December until setting it up. (We held it in January-February last time, IIRC.) Tempodivalse [talk] 01:02, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Yea, it is a bit early... and hardly any of the pictures are in the archives. PS, not it on the organizing. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 01:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Quick request

Just taking a look at Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals/Archive/18#Changing_vertical_CountryTemplates_to_Horizontal again; the problems of national infoboxes crowding out relevant images is still haunting us - I wonder if I could field your view on how to change things from the {{Canada}} way to the {{Canada-h}} way...? Sherurcij 15:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I assume your referring to the change from the horizontal infobox to the vertical one on Canadian news doesn't interest Prime Minister, prefers to watch American? Basically such things are decided on a per article basis. In many cases the vertical infobox just looks nicer than the horizontal one. In other cases the horizontal one will look nicer. It really depends on the number of images and other floating objects in the article. Bawolff ☺☻ 15:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree, if there are no images then we're best to use vertical - if there's an image, best to use horizontal. I was more just fielding for an opinion of how to ensure people realise both options exist. Sherurcij 18:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, well thats harder. People realize such templates exist when they see them used, and it is fairly rare that an article has so many pictures that horizontal looks better. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Usability group

As you might have noticed I set up an account Howie-test for someone who's working with Erik on the Flagged Revs config for enWP. He wanted to see how we'd set it up, feedback on issues we'd had, and so on.

Obviously, I'm going to show off some of Wikinews' cool gadgets and stuff given the opportunity. Spoke to him via Skype last night (with difficulty, I've almost completely lost my voice). Was well-impressed with some of the gadgets, and thought other stuff like the social bookmarking was a great idea.

Probably the first time we've got a chance to put some of your work in front of the usability group. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Thats awesome. I feel kind of famous. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Misc question

I'm wondering what's the easiest way to have a tooltip-ish template. This would be for my newsroom header. Lots and lots of short, terse, wikilinks in there and I'd like to have a really small template to use instead of the square brackets for a regular wikilink. Not really sure what, but something like {{plink|<wiki link>|<wikicode to display>|<on-hover tooltip description>...}}.

Quite a few places that would be very useful, and one of the things I found looking for code to copy was someone asking for a tooltip on the "Contact us" bit in the sidebar. Seems was done sometime for monobook, but lost now. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

MakeLead "hack"

Can you put a "hack" into makelead until we get the Google News listing crap sorted?

• From article to be made a lead (Story) create and sight a redirect (Story (YEAR-MM-DD)) pointing to the article.
• Use that in the lead template as where the story is, not the displayed title.

I think that gets everything that goes up as a lead into Google News. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:39, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Bot

Hi, I'm testing my bot putting interwikis, I am monitoring it. I forgot to create the user page here. Best Regards!!! --Ezarate (talk) 20:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: {{review}} button

I'm honored that I was the first ^.^. Beautifully easy to use, and takes away the hassle of moving around templates. One of those small improvements that make editing a breeze. Thanks for making it (or to who ever did)! Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 00:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Glad you liked it. ShakataGaNai gets the credit for thinking it up. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:17, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Wiktionary Hover - minor bug

If you go to the top-right search box and type enough to get a list of possible options, eg "Special:" you can trigger a double-click launch of the gadget by repeatedly clicking to scroll the displayed list down one item. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 03:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thats cool. I'll have to think about how to fix that one. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

NL wiktLookUp issue?

Just getting a rprt in IRC about NL language section returning no definition (but menu/box working) - Amgine | ^t 22:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Update, only when page missing. - Amgine | ^t 22:37, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

A few latin quotes...

• TURPICULO PUELLA NASO. - Catulus, poem 41
• NEMO ASPICIT, QUIN INGEMESCAT. - Cicero, In Vatinium
• TAM AUTEM ERAS EXCORS, UT TOTA IN ORATIONE TUA TECUM IPSE PUGNARES, NON MODO NON COHAERENTIA INTER SE DICERES, SED MAXIME DISIUNCTA ATQUE CONTRARIA, UT NON TANTA MECU QUANTA TIBI TECUM ESSET CONTENTIO. - Cicero, Philippicae II
• VINO, GANEIS, LENOCINIIS, ADULTERIISQUE CONFECTUM - Cicero, Pro Sestio
• LASCIVA EST NOBIS PAGINAS VITA PROBA. - Martial, Epigrams I.4
• NON AMO TE, SABIDI, NEC POSSUM DICERE QUARE/HOC TANTUM POSSUM DICERE, NON AMO TE - Martial, Epigrams I.32
• URBANUS TIBI, CAECILI, VIDERIS. NON ES, CREDE MIHI QUID ERGO? VERNA ES. - Martial, Epigrams I.41
• RES PERTRICOSA EST, COTILE, BELLUS HOMO. - Martial, Epigrams III.63
• ETDELATOR ES ET CALUMINIATOR, ET FRAUDATOR ES ET NEGOTIATOR, ET FELLATOR ES ET LANISTA. MIROR QUARE NON HABEAS, VACERRA, NUMMOS. - Marial, Epigrams XI.66
• DE CATHEDRA QUOTIENS SURGIS -- IAM SAEPE NOTAVI -- PEDICANT MISERAE, LESBIA, TE TUNICAE QUAS CUM CONATA ES DEXTRA, CONATA SINISTRA VELLERE, CUM LACRIMIS EXIMIS ET GEMITU SIC CONSTRINUNTUR GEMINA SYMPLEGADE CULI UT NIMIAS INTRANT CYANEASQUE NATIS. - Martial, Epigrams XI.99
• NON HOMINEM MIHI, SEB THENESAURUM NESCIO QUEM MEMORA MALI. - Plautus, Mercator
• CERTO SCIO, OCCISAM SAEPE SAPER PLUS MULTO SUEM - Plautus, Miles Gloriosus
• NON TU TIBI ISTAM PRAETRUNCARE LINGUAM LARGILOQUAM IUBES? - Plautus, Miles Gloriosus

A few semi-random entries... - Amgine | ^t 05:38, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Wish-list item for MAKELEAD

I don't know how feasible this is....

An option where an article doesn't have a picture to do a search on Commons for an appropriate image to use instead of the WN logo. [Possibly, to do so and change the existing image to a more-appropriate one.]

No idea what would be best for this - perhaps a preloaded search from names of topical infoboxes or categories the article is in. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Its certainly a cool idea. In many cases it'd probably be able to geuss a relevant picture better. If an article has no picture, but has an a country infobox, it should geuss [[image:Location<somewhere>.png]]. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I broke WN:ML this morning - it choked on this http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Mobile_operator_Orange_bills_French_doctor_%E2%82%AC160,000_for_one_month_of_Internet_use&oldid=913863. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 11:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

AlexandrDimitr reported a similiar error a couple days ago. There's something wrong with the regex that strips templates and images when there is a lot of images and templates at beginning of article. I'll hopefully look into it soon. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:18, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes. I broke it with the UN vs Israel one as well. It wanted to put a "]]" in from one of the images at the top of the article. Regex? It's perverse. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:31, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

It should be fixed. The regex did not like have internal/external links in image captions (for the phone bill article). The UN article the issue was that it didn't recognize a quote character as a letter, and didn't recognize blah blah". to be the end of a sentence. Both should be fixed now. let me know if you find any others. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:20, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

DynamicPageList

HI Bawolff,

My home base is the Dutch wiktionary and I would like to try to create some intersections between categories there to generate some statistics about the Dutch language, e.g. how many transitive verbs are also reflexives etc. Would you know how I could get that going? I tried to use DynamicPageList locally but it does not seem to compute and I have no idea how to get that option installed.

nl:wikt:Gebruiker:Jcwf (I'd appreciate an answer there, because I never come here.)

Jcwf (talk) 02:46, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

responded at dutch wiktionary. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a million, Bawolff. I must admit you answer made my head spin a little, but we do have some people there that might be able to do something with it. I might take you up on your kind offer and bother you some more at some point, though. It isn ot a terribly urgent matter, and we have loads of things to do, but it could become a thing of added value to wiktionary I think. I doubt that the kind of statistics you can generate this way are to be found anywhere.

Thanks again

Jcwf (talk) 15:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Easy Peer review

I got this message when trying to submit my review of the Vietnam-Facebook story. It worked the second time I hit submit. Not sure it's that important, but it did say to tell you :p. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 15:39, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Ugh. It means something bad happened (unfortunatly the error message on IE is not very descriptive [due to my fault, IE handles errors differently than moz], so what exactly happened is a good question.) At least it worked the second time. Thank you for telling me. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Tiger Woods

Yes, I know, but I'm trying to avoid 15 articles being created :) I'm adding stuff as fast as I can type :) Guinness2702 (talk) 20:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Sounds good. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:44, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Re WN:ML

Hello Bawolff, I will be grateful to make these changes on French Wikinews, it will be a plus for our project. Also, I think the script has a problem with the images of the articles, sometimes they are displayed and sometimes not. For example, for this article, no image is displayed and the box has a problem with the 250 letters. Thank you very much for your help ! - Sniff (talk) 22:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: You edit!

That I do! Hopefully I'll be editing a little more now, but things are calming down outside of the wiki-world. --Thunderhead 04:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, i know what you mean - stupid real world ;) Bawolff ☺☻ 18:34, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Wiktionary lookup (pt.wikt)

I've created the page on pt.wikt with this. But, I want to tell you that two links you pointed me don't exist, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary/Look_Up_Tool and http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/MediaWiki:extractFirst. I created the page just because en.wikt has one too and, if it's possible, I want to know more about the funcionality of this script. (Do it just let other sites to get definitions? Wich sites?) --Jesielt 05:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Bawolff, when I make my interface in potuguese it still give the english wiktionary definition ? Otourly (talk) 11:51, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thak you for the answer!

Well, we make the "see also section" with a 2 level section at the end of page in two ways:
==Ver também==
=={{vertb}}==

We rarely use taht dynamicNavBox template. Sometimes, to put words in columns, we use three templates, like this:

=={{vertb}}==
{{verTambém.Ini}}
*[[word 1]]
*[[word 2]]
{{verTambém.NovaColuna}}
*[[word 3]]
*[[word 4]]
{{verTambém.Fim}}

But, we use these {{verTambém.Ini}} template in many other cases when we need to put words in columns. So, the 'see also section' is just ==Ver também== and =={{vertb}}==. I hope that it helps you! Regards, Jesielt 22:33, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

If you got a sec

Can you stop by FH again and tell me/fix UserMessages gadget. I tried to import it (stealing some WP templates) and it doesn't work. Now we've only got 1.15 and monobook there, so I suspect that might be part of the issues. Either that or it is my advert plugin below the toolbox. Lemme know, thx. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 08:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Basically, mediawiki replaced ~~~~ with your signature, the ' in your signature was interpreted as an end of string marker, and everything that came after that in your signature caused a syntax error. Should be fixed now. cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Damn it, I didn't notice the second instance of my sig. Why is that particular install translating my sig in .js? It doesn't do it here? Is it a 1.16 improvement, or did I screw up a setup config? PS... Thank you for fixing it (and my silly no include 'fix') --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 16:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

It should do it here as well. Normally here we have the sig separated by something to stop that from happening (usually either something like '~~\~~' or '~~' + '~~'. Mediawiki also expands templates in js files in a secret manner, where it doesn't display the expanded template, but includes any categories that that template includes. (to sum it up, mediawiki is stupid). Bawolff ☺☻ 12:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

question on mwapi

Hi Bawolff. Question for you. What's the best way to do a simple js prompt and have whatever is entered added to the talk page. I'm working on something for my personal wiki. I tried looking at easypeerrevew but realized quickly that I was confusing myself a bit. I took your Mwapilib.js and have that imported. This is basically what I have.

importScript('MediaWiki:Mwapilib.js');

addOnloadHook(function () {
   var hist; var url;
   if (!(hist = document.getElementById('ca-history') )) return;
   if (!(url = hist.getElementsByTagName('a')[0] )) return;
   if (!(url = url.href )) return;
   
addPortletLink("p-cactions", "javascript:addresearch();void%200;", "Add", "ca-addresearch", "Add Research");
});

function addresearch(){
var reviewHeader = 'New header';
var researchlink=prompt("Research link");
Bawolff.mwapi.edit({content: researchlink, page: "Talk:" + wgTitle, summary: reviewHeader, section: "new"}, talk_rev_cb);
}

What am I missing? I'm getting a undefined error on Bawolff.mwapi.edit(). Thanks so much. I really appreciate it. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 10:51, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

talk_rev_cb is undefined (which matters more than it normally would since it is a global variable), change the edit line to:

Bawolff.mwapi.edit({content: researchlink, page: "Talk:" + wgTitle, summary: reviewHeader, section: "new"});

(Assuming you don't want to give the user any sort of success message. Otherwise you could do something like define talk_rev_cb to be:

talk_rev_cb = function () {alert("link successfully posted");};

(btw, my original version of mwapilib was my first attempt at doing something like that, and is a bit confusing. mwapilib2 would probably be less confusing (particularly if you end up doing something more complicated), but then again its not really documented whatsoever.). Cheers. let me know if that works. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm getting a POST error unknown_action: Unrecognised value for parameter 'action'. There's also a [object:text] message on the top of the page. The link is not added to the talk page. Thanks again. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 13:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Are you logged in? Sometimes that error message comes up if you try to edit while not logged in, and anons are not allowed to edit on the wiki in question. Also check to make sure the write API is enabled. (although i think you'd get a different error if it wasn't). Is it a public wiki? if it is do you have a link? Bawolff ☺☻ 23:32, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I think it was a version issue. I was running 1.12 and I figured this probably had something to do with the problem. I've been meaning to upgrade for awhile and this just kicked me in the ass to do it. It's working great now. Thanks for your help. I might have some more questions shortly. I'm trying to so something like easyreview but use it for financial data and have it go into a template. Thanks again. You rock. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 16:18, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Glad to help. the mediawiki write api was disabled by default up until version 1.14, so that was probably the issue. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any more questions. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:43, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Is there a way to do this without adding in a section header or removing all content? Thanks again. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 02:13, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

yep - I always meant to do this, but never actually needed to, so never did, but i've now added the code to user:Bawolff/mwapilib.js (you'll need to recopy it). basically do:

Bawolff.mwapi.append({content: "\nText to append", page: "some page", summary: "Edit summary"});

Cheers (the \n is to make the new text go on a new line). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:49, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you kindly dear Bawolff. Works like a charm. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 10:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Glad to hear. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:48, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Gadget bug

Your gadget informs me it died in a hole. That's not good. It appears it managed to figure it out anyway, though. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 14:24, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

This happens if after it creates the redirect for google, it can't find the revision id, so it can't sight the google redirect. Which article was this for? Bawolff ☺☻ 19:21, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Red Cross appeals for US$33 million in food relief for Zimbabwe. If it makes any difference, it was the second time I tried to submit for review after an edit conflict. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 01:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, i bet the first time you submitted it, it created the google redirect before detecting the edit conflict. The second time you submitted it, it probably failed to create the google redirect as it was already there, so it errored on that. That would be consistant with everything appearing to work normally except for the error message. (thats also consistant with the timstamps on the edits) Bawolff ☺☻ 01:34, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

• It seems to have failed for RockerBall on Payment pending; Canadian recording industry set for six billion penalties?. I suspect it's the question mark at the end. Neither the article or the GNews redirect were sighted. And, I seem to have a few problems finding the story in GNews. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:59, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

WN:ML Broken?

Bawolff, I can't get the WN:ML to work for the following article: Boeing 787 "Dreamliner" makes maiden flight today. Every part of it works but the actual saving of the lead.

Also, the JS publish tool didn't sight the above article either.

I will update the lead manually. Calebrw (talk) 04:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Done This was a serious issue (It could be somewhat exploited as an w:XSS vulnrability [it'd be rather obvious if someone tried, since they'd have to create a really ugly article title, but still very serious]). Thank you for reporting it. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:18, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Glad you got it work out. Calebrw (talk) 05:38, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Did you know review thingy for en.wikipedia

Check this out: w:Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#A_more_comprehensive_proposal. Perhaps you could lend assistance? :P Cirt (talk) 20:17, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I did a quick read through. I think i'll be able to help. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:25, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Re

Hello, Bawolff/archives. You have new messages at User_talk:Q0k#Please don't spam talk pages. You can remove this notice by removing {{replied}} from your talk page.

Hello, Bawolff/archives. You have new messages at User_talk:Q0k#Please don't spam talk pages. You can remove this notice by removing {{replied}} from your talk page.

• • • Where is your answer? (should have been at my talk page) Q/0/k 22:38, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

---

Please keep these discussions un-fragmented, continue them where they started, if you can. Q/0/k 09:32, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

• Well to be honest, we're having a conversation on Brianmc's talk page about a subject that really does not involve brianmc. The logical thing to do would be to have conversation on either my talk page, your talk page, on template talk:Howdy. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:14, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

But Brian McNeil (talk · contribs) is the author of {{howdy}} template. This is why I started the discussion at his talk page. Please also know that you have new message at User talk:Q0k#Please don't spam talk pages Q/0/k 11:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

• But if said template is going to be modified to do degrade in a different way for non-js users, I'm going to be the one to do that. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

You might see what the Welcome template looked like on 2005-01-21. Q/0/k 22:34, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm fully aware what the template used to look like. With time its expanded. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

WN:ML Bug?

When the WN:ML uses the auto-country flag, it goes back to the WN logo if you press the "Make Lead" button, then if you press the button again, it goes back to the country flag. Calebrw (talk) 02:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

That was a very weird bug. Apperently js caches regular expression literals instead of creating a new one each time you make a new one (which normally makes sense as regex objects are normally readonly, however it has a readwrite property lastIndex which is used by the exec method to determine where last match was, which did not get reset) Basically, second time around the script only looked at categories after Category:United Kingdom. Should be fixed now, may have to do a hard refresh. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:18, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Unlock of 68.81.95.145 (talk · contribs)

Hi Bawolff, i noticed that you unblocked 68.81.95.145 (talk · contribs) as AGF. I thought I should note that this IP has been quite disruptive in the past, and earlier asked to be unblocked as no longer an open proxy (which, after a proxy check by Brianmc, was proven to be false). I find his latest unblock request to be thus somewhat suspicious. Maybe you could ask Brian to run another check to see if the IP is still a proxy or not, just to make sure? Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 23:08, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I ran it through an online proxy checker which said it wasn't (but i have no idea how reliable that is, i would geuss not that reliable). Its a comcast IP, so its quite possible its been since re-assigned. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:47, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, okay. It's entirely possible that the IP was reassigned, but nonetheless I find this a bit suspicious (and previous experience with online proxy checkers has led me to believe they're not always completely reliable). I know Brianmc has Xenmap, which is supposedly a good OP checker, perhaps we could approach him with a request to scan that IP. Tempodivalse [talk] 00:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I personally don't really want to check it myself, as I've heard some isp's get mad at their customers if they port scan other people (I have no idea if my isp is one of these, or even if thats a true rumour, but rather not chance it). Beyond that i don't really have any strong opinions on this. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:26, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Original reporting on main page

The three copies of Brian's article you created for the benefit of Google News

• Article/try3-134593/Payment pending, Canadian recording industry set for six billion penalties?
• Article/try4-134594/Payment pending, Canadian recording industry set for six billion penalties
• Article/try2-134592/Payment pending; Canadian recording industry set for six billion penalties

are all showing up in the Original reporting section of the main page. Any chance you could fix this? the wub "?!" 23:40, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

My apoligies, I didn't intend for that to happen. It was for a test thats now done. They can safely be deleted (As i see they have been). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:08, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Peer Review gadget

Absolutely amazing. :) --Thunderhead 21:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm pretty proud of it. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:09, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Your support for my RFA

I would like to thank you for supporting my successful RFA and for your confidence in me. I look forward to serving further the English Wikinews community in this new capacity. I shall take the new tasks required of an administrator on board step by step and will make the utmost effort to fulfil the role to the best of my abilities. Kind regards Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 12:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello

I'm looking to port the Template:Ticker over to Wikipedia so it can be like {{w:opentasks}}. Any ideas on how to do this? Please contact me on my wikipedia talk page at w:User talk:iBen.--IBen (talk) 01:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: edits to image page

Ok, I understand why you reverted the edits. Cocoaguy ^talk_contribs‽ 06:20, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:24, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Script loading in WiktionaryLookup

The document.write technique MediaWiki:WiktionaryLookup-external.js uses to load another script is fundamentally flawed: if the document has already finished loading, it will replace it with an empty document. This means WiktionaryLookup cannot be loaded from a bookmarklet (which would be pretty cool). The proper way to load a script is to use document.createElement to create a new script tag, and add it to the head. (Look at importScriptURI() in wikibits.js for an example.) Could you please correct that?

thanks, --Tgr (talk) 22:04, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Already done. See MediaWiki:WiktionaryLookup-external-bookmarklet.js and http://www.marklets.com/Bookmarklets/Wiktionary+lookup.aspx

Thanks! I wasn't aware of that. Maybe it would be worth a note at WN:WiktLookup? I looked for a bookmarklet version there, and assumed there isn't any when I didn't found it. --Tgr (talk) 22:38, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, thought i did that. must have forgot. Done. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:04, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Feedback style gadget

Hey Bawolff, I've just tried your feedback style gadget. It's pretty awesome, really. Way better than before. :-) To make it more user-friendly I recommend you replace the diamonds (♦) by stars. Yellow or red stars, just like on YouTube. Using designs the user is already familiar with plays a big role in usability. Again, well done Bawolff! Yours, Dodoïste (talk) 22:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Someone actually tried it :D. I used the diamonds as they were a bit easier to code for at that moment (as they are text as opposed to image, which is slightly easier in itself, but mostly I had the diamond character on hand, and didn't happen to have any star pictures on hand at the moment i was coding it [and my internet was down at that moment]). I agree it would probably be a good idea to replace them with the more traditional star image, I'll try to do that soon. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:57, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm looking forward to it ! :-) Once you're done, I suggest we shouw it to the Wikipedia community, some users might be interested about this feature. Dodoïste (talk) 23:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

WN:ML

I think there may be a typo in the code. "United Kindon" is what comes up for File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg. --The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 05:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Done Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 15:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: poke

Thanks for letting me know! Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is the purpose of a mailing list when we can all just chat here on the wiki? Benny the mascot (talk) 18:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Its easier to forward emails to a mailing list then copy them out here. Some discussions are easier to have on a mailing list (thats a matter of opinion). Theoretically the mailing list is supposed to act as a bridge between different lang editions (That never happened though). Often mailing lists act to help talk about long term proposals relating to administrative things, where most on wiki stuff is for the day to day stuff. Mailing lists also have the benifit of having large number of people subscribed who are not active on wiki, but either well-connected, or have good ideas etc. By and large the mailing list is not really used. Most conversations happen on wiki or on irc. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:06, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. That was very hopeful. Benny the mascot (talk) 20:19, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Favour

Hey Bawolff,

Saw you feeding trolls and was wondering whether you had a spare couple of minutes to review An interview with Paul Campbell, founder of Amazing Radio UK, should be pretty easy, email was sent to scoop? Thanks!    Tris   10:53, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunatly i'm not subscribed to scoop, so i can't really review it. I can say it looks good though. 1 minor thing is i'm not sure what stg4.5bn means. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, no problems, thanks. Ooh, yes, I meant to check that but forgot, thanks!    Tris   11:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Problem!

Sorry for spamming your talk page, but do you have any idea about this-Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Problem!!? Thanks!    Tris   17:50, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Its exciting to get the you have new messages bar. Problem with your article should be fixed. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:13, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

MORE EXCITEMENT! --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 22:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I am now suitably excited :P. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

As said on WC, thank you very much. Silly error leads to big problems! Appreciated.    Tris   22:45, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Happy to help. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Q/0/k who does not use JavaScript asks you for support

You agreed about uncomfortability of JavaScript at my talk page, could you please support the rights of this conception at Bug 539820- addons.mozilla.org works incorrectly with JavaScript disabled? They do not want to let me work at that site without JS and do not understand that conception of dislike of JS is reasonable. Q/0/k 04:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but its not my place to venture an opinion on this. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:08, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

• You are not obliged to use Javascript and, yes, on a variety of sites you may expose yourself to cross-site scripting vulnerabilities. That is not the case on the English Wikinews and site use of Javascript makes for a marked improvement in usability for the overwhelming majority of readers and contributors. You are asking for days of work to support less than 1% of the site's users – it ain't going to happen.

How you might think the Mozilla foundation could make their browsers replace Javascript functionality without using some other technology equally susceptible to abuse is, ... bizarre and contrarian. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Url

The Url's you requested have been added into Mongolia establishes a moratorium on executions. I am looking forward to seeing it published.

Newscaster (talk)

New barnstar!

I award you the da Vinci barnstar for all of your technical work here on Wikinews. Thanks a lot! Benny the mascot (talk) 04:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:07, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Bugzilla 22135

Hi. I'm the editor who opened bugzilla:22135. I had a question about your comment, "Perhaps this would be something better implemented as a js gadget. ( get page source, prefix all template calls with User:foo/ , render using api's action=parse)." Can you give me an example of something similar? where I could take a look at the code? Perhaps if I had something to look at where someone did something similar, I could come up with something. I realize that the wikipedia enhancement queue is pretty long. Thanks. Stmrlbs (talk) 04:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

responded on your en wikipedia talk page. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

• EzReview broke! Not appearing on Rocker's speeding story. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:51, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Done - Do a hard refresh. Need to stay away from js for rest of today. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

PR tool

I've purged/cleared my cache, but the new version doesn't seem to work for me. any thoughts? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, well thats sad. I don't really know. I geuss for now just manually list them on the standing version. Do you get any errors? Which browser are you using? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bawolff (talk • contribs)

Odd, worked for me after a hard refresh. (I'm on firefox 3.5.x btw) Tempodivalse [talk] 21:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Everything always works on firefox (partially because firefox is just better, partially because thats what i use, so most testing that is done is done using firefox). If something doesn't work, usually it will be internet explorer where it doesn't work. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

IE worked fine for me without so much as a refresh. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 21:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

---

JC: try doing the following. Go to some page on wikinews, and type the following in the address bar:

javascript:importScript('User:Bawolff/mwapilib2.js');void%200

Wait about five seconds, and then type in address bar:

javascript:api('Wikinews:Sandbox').getPage().inject('{{Sandbox}}\ntestFromJC').savePage().exec();void%200

This should edit the sandbox. Tell me if any errors pop up (in sitenotice), and if the sandbox gets edited. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:35, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Editorship

Thanks for your message and the selection of reading material. I was wondering what the guidance was (if any) on changing the lead stories. Presumably something along the lines of: (1) big story at the top; (2) get a variety of themes / countries; (3) pictures are preferred to flags, other things being equal; (4) older stories get replaced before newer stories, other things being equal – anything else? Bencherlite (talk) 23:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

EasyTimeLine Malayalam

A local wikipedian Junaid got it correctly. But I dont know why, I need to edit text representations. I am using gedit--Praveenp (talk) 02:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Then all my text editors displays so (gnu emacs, scribes etc). :(--Praveenp (talk) 02:46, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe its somewhere else along the lines then, when saved by firefox or something (that wouldn't make sense either, as i use firefox and it worked for me). I used vim to edit the file. emacs, gedit, etc should also work fine. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:49, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

• /me chips in and recommends TECO if you want a real editor. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 17:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

lol. "Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want." :P. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:15, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Easy PR Bug

When reviewing Haiti's banks reopen, the following error appeared: WWC error [step 1] [tell bawolff]:api is not defined. Calebrw (talk) 16:43, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou for reporting it. Its related to the automatic reporting of stuff WN:WC2010LOG. Its not working for some people, and i'm not entirely sure why. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Make lead template for Arabic Wikinews?

Hi there, do you think that you can make a "Make lead" template for the Arabic Wikinews? If so, kindly work on THIS page. I can help you if you need any translation. Thanks. --عمرو (talk) 10:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd love to. Might not be able to work on it much until the weekend though. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Great! Thanks alot :). Please, when you start to work on it, if you need any translation at all, Contact me on my Arab Wikipedia PAGE I'm always on there :). Thanks ALOT. --عمرو (talk) 11:21, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Dear Bawolff, I'm sorry for bothering you. But I'm just reminding you of the template for the Arabic Wikinews that we've talked about before. Please, it's very important for us there to have such a template. Kindly don't forget to work on it in your free time. Thank you again and sorry for bothering you. --عمرو (talk) 17:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't get to it last weekend. I'll definitely do it when i get a chance though. :). Cheers Bawolff ☺☻ 12:15, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

You don't have to be sorry. I was just reminding you with it. I apologize again for this. Thanks :) --عمرو (talk) 16:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

No worries. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I imported it into ar wikinews. (To test add importScript('Bawolff/leadGen.js'); to ar:special:Mypage/monobook.js). It is not translated yet, and is somewhat still choking on the differences between ar and other languages. Basically it somewhat sort of works. I will hopefully be able to make it actually work either next weekend or some time next week (next weekend might be busy for me, we'll see). Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:22, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Finished

C'est la. Hopefully it is pretty enough :) — μ 22:19, February 3 2010 (UTC)

adding to gadgets. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:22, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Minor gadget issue

The gadgets are hugely helpful; I thank you for your work on them. I have noticed that there is a single undesirable space between the insertion of a talk template and the signature. See, as an example this version of a user talk page. It has my signature oddly placed in a box below what was added. In this revision, I have removed one space from immediately in front of my signature. Here's the diff. Thanks for you attention. I think this will prove beneficial if it can be fixed. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:46, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Done (although i blame Shak for this one ;) . Bawolff ☺☻ 04:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Want another DPL feature request?

It's from 2007...

Bug 8886 is about adding DynamicPageList to Vietnamese Wikt, but the user also talks about wanting an inline list of links ala [User:Bawolff|link1], [User:Bawolff|link2], [User:Bawolff|link3], as output mode for DPL. Sounds kind of cool. - Amgine | ^t 05:11, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Space in js

There still seems to be an issue --SVTCobra 11:57, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello Bawolff/archives. You have new messages at right here You can remove this notice by removing {{replied}} from your talk page

Hello Bawolff/archives. You have new messages at right here You can remove this notice by removing {{replied}} from your talk page

SVTCobra 11:58, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Whoops, forgot that templates that take arguments are handled differently. Should work for all of them now. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

EN WIKI

I posted a question for you on your talk page at EN Wiki regarding DYKVerified. Thanks in advance. Supertouch (talk) 03:32, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-UserMessages.js

Could you add Template:Vandal warning? Thanks, Mikemoral♪♫ 04:09, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Done. I added the version that does not prompt for a pagename, I could change it to one that does ask for a pagename if you prefer. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure it's fine. A vandal would surely know what xe did. Besides {{stop}} is a bit harsh for the first time. Thanks, Mikemoral♪♫ 20:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Our warning templates go from a mere 'use the sandbox for testing to' to If you don't stop we are going to nuke your house from outerspace, without any mild stop messages in between. (OTOH, we tend to just block people being stupid instead of warning them). Bawolff ☺☻ 20:28, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

My name murdered. :P (no problem really). --Mikemoral♪♫ 00:00, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

:P. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:09, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

LQT header

Very nice to see first uses of LQT here on Wikinews :-). I've created Template:Commentary/LQT as an alternative header for "liquified" comments talk pages, since the old instructions no longer applied, and added it to the default template so it should be automatically used for new LQT comments pages. It might be desirable to find a hack to get the LQT "Start a new discussion" equivalent link into the action tabs as well.--Eloquence (talk) 05:34, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey Eloquence. I see someone already added it before I got to it, thanks for the template. I'll have to look into the adding another tab. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

EZ Peer review semi-broken

Hey Bawolff, you might want to have a look at this. EZ Peer review appears to have added {{peer review}} to the talk page, but not actually publish or sight the article, on brianmc's latest review. Might want to check if something's wrong. Cheers Tempodivalse [talk] 02:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, i don't know what happened. The most recent version worked for cirt. Added some extra error checking code just in case, but i'm not really sure what is going on here. Let me know if it happens again. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

• I've had an odd problem, but I'm not quick enough to catch the error message. Reviewed two articles, passed them, and am then prompted if I'd like to make it a lead. When I click the button to go to makelead an API error flashes up (something about no error description) and I then get to MakeLead - which seems to work okay, and the two articles have shown up on the twitter feed, so review worked. Oh, and fix the spelling of "successfully" for review or ML, can't remember which. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:38, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Thats odd you'd get an error at that point in the process. The script doesn't do anything at that point, other then redirect you to WN:ML. Was it something about "NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE: Component returned failure code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsIXMLHttpRequest.statusText]", or something along those lines? (Sometimes it seems that error is generated by firefox for no apparent reason when redirecting between pages and trying to do an xmlHTTPRequest (ajax) at the same time. It happens particularly when combining userNotify gadget, and reviewAlert gadget. I'm not sure whats causing it, but it might be a mozilla bug). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's the error, yes. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 20:11, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I also got an error when trying to publish this article. Could it have something to do with the quotes in the title? Here is the error: "A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: unknownerror: Unknown error: ``$1'' <238:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=5>". The article published, sighted, and placed the template on the talkpage, but it did the latter twice. It might be that Firefox redirect error you were talking about. I'm using v3.6. Gopher65_talk 02:39, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Nope, thats an error returned from the wikimedia web servers. I'm not exactly sure why though. Hopefully its a temporary thing. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:48, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I've replied

over on the MusicDNA talk page and would appreciate any more comments. Cheers.    Tris   17:43, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Another ML bug

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE: Component returned failure code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsIXMLHttpRequest.statusText] <232:undefined>

Enjoy. Calebrw (talk) 19:47, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

See above :). I think it might be caused by listening to onreadystatechange events, after ajax finished (if they maybe somehow get sent when redirecting to new page). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:53, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Godwin's Law :D — μ 20:13, February 12 2010 (UTC)

:P. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Hat hab at en.wikiquote

Hi Bawolff, I hope you are doing well. See my "test" subsection, here [33]. Perhaps you could tell me why the Hat/Hab templates are not collapsing what is inside? Cirt (talk) 04:20, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Your missing the required javascript. (specificly stuff relating to navboxes) From which wiki did you get the template? Bawolff ☺☻ 23:10, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I got it from en.wikipedia. Can you fix it? Cirt (talk) 17:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Anychance recent MediaWiki:* edits caused the main page style to change

Bawolff, I don't know if I just never noticed this before, but upon viewing the main page on a fairly small screen (1024 x 768), there is way too much whitespace between the lead templates...Would it have anything to do with this or this. Calebrw (talk) 00:35, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Crap. Sorry. Yeah my fault. I made a mistkake well fixing the tabs on opinion pages (I left an extra . in). This caused a syntax error, which caused an uncaught exception, which caused all javascript to stop, which caused mediawiki:Common.css/Main Page to not be included, which caused ugly whitespace. Do a hard refresh if its still there. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:46, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Yup. All the problems on WN usually track down to you. ;) Fixed for me. Calebrw (talk) 05:51, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Glaraque GPC-feb1310.jpg

I added the link. Me-123567-Me (talk) 19:45, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

WN:ML

Maybe you can or can't fix it but the script thinks "Inc." is the end of sentence. Idk if there is a fix. --Mikemoral♪♫ 23:58, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Might be able to hard-code inc. Acronyms/abreviations are one of the major flaws with it, as it's very hard to distinguish between a period to mark an abbreviation, and a period to mark the end of a sentence. A work around would be to set the summary mode to two sentences. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:38, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, javascript does not support negative look-behind asertions in js which makes this more complicated to hard-code in. Since this is fairly rare, and can be wroked around by changing the summary mode to "1st 2 sentences" is it ok to just not fix this? Bawolff ☺☻ 05:09, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

It's not really a problem, but I'd thought you'd might like to know. --Mikemoral♪♫ 05:18, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Yep, i always do. Thankyou for the bug report. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: deletion of userpage

Ah I see. Thanks for responding, Cocoaguy^talk_contribs‽ 01:11, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikiquote

I tried doing it, but it did not work? Help? Cirt (talk) 04:02, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Ticker

Hi, can you help me at ro.wikinews.org with ticker template, because it does not work? This are the pages that I created for the template Template:Ticker, MediaWiki:Ticker2.js] and MediaWiki:Ticker.js. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MSClaudiu (talk • contribs) 15:06, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Now it works perfectly, thanks a lot.--MSClaudiu (talk) 17:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

no problem. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Gadget issue?

FYI, something weird happened. Benny the mascot (talk) 21:33, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Tempodivalse pinged me on irc. I for once can say not my fault :). Bawolff ☺☻ 21:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

WN:SPAM > WN:NOT

Meh. Note to self: drink more coffee, preview, save. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 09:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Ez Review with IE6

Hi Bawolff,

Do you know of any easy way to run the peer review gadget when using IE6? Alas, that's the default browser here at work to cope with some systems that can't readily be updated to suit better browsers.

It seems that with the Vector skin I can't get the drop-down menu to let me at it. I'd be happy just to pull up a page in any namespace (MediaWiki?) and plug in the article name. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^talk 16:44, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I havn't done significant (read any) testing in IE6, but no reason why it should not work. Just go to whatever page you want to review, and type javascript:Bawolff.review.start() in the address bar, and hit enter (this also skips all the checks to make sure you're not reviewing an already published article, so make sure not to double publish something). Alternatively you can add the following code to your special:mypage/vector.js:

addOnloadHook(function () { if (document.getElementById(Bawolff.review_i18n.trigger_id) || Bawolff.review_i18n.trigger_func()) { addPortletLink("p-views", "javascript:Bawolff.review.start();void%200;", Bawolff.review_i18n.review_tab, "ca-peerReview-2", Bawolff.review_i18n.review_tab_tooltip); } });

cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

auto-lead generator request

Hia Bawolff, I was wondering if I could request a new feature for the lead generator? Basically, what I'd like is to have an option to use the infobox image for a lead if there's no embedded image in the corresponding article. Right now, if an article doesn't have an embedded image, then the default WN logo appears on the lead, which in my opinion looks abysmal. (does that make sense?) Earlier today, several leads had the logo after Shaka published some articles, and I had a little fight with him in IRC because I got upset that he doesn't like to add an image manually. :-( Anyways, I don't know how easy or if it's even possible do implement something like that, but thought i'd ask anyway. Cheers. Tempodivalse [talk] 18:14, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

If you give me a list of infobox (or category) -> image, its very easy. Its harder to make the script look inside the infobox to find the right image (i guess i could make a script to generate the infobox-> image list...). Currently it recognizes the following infoboxes:

Bawolff.leadGen.imgMap = { "UK" : "Flag of the United Kingdom.svg",
 "United Kingdom": "Flag of the United Kingdom.svg",
 "United States": "Flag of the United States.svg",
 "Canada": "Flag of Canada.svg",
 "Mexico": "Flag of Mexico.svg",
 "Computing": "Computer-aj aj ashton 01.svg",
 "Google": "Google logo png.png",
 "Obituary": "Wikinews tag obituary.png",
 "Science and technology infobox": "Science-symbol-2.svg",
 "Science and technology": "Science-symbol-2.svg" }

Bawolff ☺☻ 19:14, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

OK, that doesn't seem to be overtly difficult, although I'd prefer that we used maps as opposed to flags ... Thanks though. Tempodivalse [talk] 19:41, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Errors

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: permissiondenied: Permission denied <241:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=7> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.19) Gecko/2010040116 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.19

Netscr1be (talk) 10:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Per your request:

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: unknownerror: Unknown error: ``$1 <238:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=5>

--ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 07:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Review gadget problem

Problem with passing Body of Sheikh Ahmed bin Zayed Al Nahyan found in Moroccan lake:

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: internal_api_error_DBQueryError: Database query error <undefined:undefined>

Benny the mascot (talk) 18:04, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Ditto. In big letters with an intimidating red border this time. On Double bomb blasts kill at least twelve in northern Caucasus. C628 (talk) 16:22, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Now with Make Lead. "A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: badtoken: Invalid token <undefined:undefined>" Same article. I don't think Google Chrome likes Wikinews very much. :( C628 (talk) 16:24, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

The invalid token one is possibly the fault of my gadget, the other two are definitely the devs fault. If it continues to happen, let me know. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:21, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Same as above, on Four dead after US helicopter crashes in Afghanistan. Didn't show up on the "latest news" column on the main page, at least not initially, even after purging it. I'm sorry, I should really remember to review stuff using Opera and not bother you. Thanks, C628 (talk) 03:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi. That article didn't show on the main page because EPR did't sight it; I sighted it, a bit later, after I noticed it under Newsroom#Articles improperly published. --Pi zero (talk) 04:25, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Make lead

"A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: TypeError: Object doesn't support this property or method <undefined:undefined>" Just after posting UK Prime Minister announces date for general election to main page, lead three, which worked fine. Message came after page reloaded. Using Internet Explorer. Cheers, C628 (talk) 14:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Make lead posting to wrong page [resolved]

• Hey.... when using make lead, I set it to lead 3 and when I saved it set the article to lead 1. That's a problem Irunongames•play 13:45, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it did. at 13:39 you used make lead to update lead 3 to Clashes leave eighteen dead in Thai capital - [34], three minutes prior, at 13:37, Rayboy also updated lead 1 to Clashes leave eighteen dead in Thai capital [35]. Thus it looked like you updated lead 1, when really you updated the third lead, and the first lead was just coincidently changed to the same article by Rayboy8. I looked through your contribs, and it does not appear that you touched lead 1 prior to writing this message, so I'm chalking this one up to coincidence. (I geuss in order for this to happen, it means make lead is a popular success :D ). Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Feedback Thought

In cases like this where it isn't going to LQT. Perhaps adding a --~~~~ sig would be in order? --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 18:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Good idea. (It originally did that, then i turned it off for lqt). Bawolff ☺☻ 20:23, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia privacy policy

Hi Bawolff, I comment here on your blog post on rating system (your blog is somewhat restrictive in identifications allowed for commenters). Anyway: Nice work, rating system. I am however a bit worried by the extension publishing ip addresses of all visitors that do rating, does that comply with our privacy policy? Cheers, Erik Zachte (talk) 07:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't publish who says what, only their comments to threads. The js isn't recording anything special, it is just the same if they hit edit & save. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 08:02, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Yep, agree with Shaka. A non-registered user's IP would have been revealed anyway if he had edited a page. The official WMF policy page has more info on this stuff. Tempodivalse [talk] 13:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Erik (/me feels honoured, important people are talking to me) - I'm not intemently familiar with our privacy policy, so I don't know for certain, but given that the extension was enabled in the first place I would assume so (for the ips that appear on special:ratinghistory ). I just made some of the front end more visually appealing, the core extension itself was written by werdna and enabled ages ago. I did add the comment box, which I have no idea if it should be considered any different from editing a page. It did not occur to me that it would be, but again I don't have intimate knowledge of the policy. I really hope it is not in violation of the policy. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Easy Peer Review Error Messagw

Bawolff,

Got the following error when reviewing this article:

"A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: TypeError: Bawolff.review.isError is not a function <521:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&270z52> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)"

Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 02:01, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

It should be noted that the reviewed template was added to the collaboration page of the article, but the {{publish}} template had to be added manually to the article. Calebrw (talk) 02:05, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Done. Should be fixed now. Slightly too much of the point counter code got disabled after the contest ended. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

The following came up as I reviewed Fourteen dead in two attacks in Somalia:

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: TypeError: Result of expression 'Bawolff.review.isError' [undefined] is not a function. <undefined:undefined> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11 Safari/528.16

Benny the mascot (talk) 02:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

probably have just a cached version of script (same issue as above). try doing a hard refresh before reviewing your next article. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm still having a problem with creating the comments pages. (Check my recent reviews if you don't understand what I'm saying) How exactly does one do a hard refresh? Benny the mascot (talk) 14:26, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if i'm butting in here, but as Bawolff seems to be away, thought I'd pop in. Shift+refresh button should do it on most browsers. Tempodivalse [talk] 14:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm using an iPhone. ;) Any other suggestions? Benny the mascot (talk) 14:52, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, not sure. You could try the following:

• Navigate to some page that is currently up for review:
• In the address bar type:

javascript:location.reload(true)

• Hit enter

Not sure if that will work, but it might. If that doesn't work, let me know, and we'll try something else. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:18, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Nope, doesn't work. I think I'll try using my PC next time, just to check whether this is just a problem with my phone. I'll keep you posted. Benny the mascot (talk) 14:47, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Anything like a possible now?

(OK very short paragraphs but it is basically still breaking news) SatuSuro (talk) 02:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Paragraphs should really be longer... Bawolff ☺☻ 02:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Overcat is a crime on other wiki's - is it allowable here? (Australia and Western Australia) SatuSuro (talk) 02:49, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Not sure what overcat means, but i assume you mean putting it in subcategories and the parent categories. Over here we use categories in a slightly different manner. Because we are a news site, if someone looks up category:Australia we assume they want the latest news for australia, not just the latest news for things about australia that don't fit in another category. Thus we have a more categories the merrier philosophy. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

- we have an as reliable Geosciences australia :) http://www.ga.gov.au/earthquakes/SatuSuro (talk) 03:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

lol. Geoscience australia is just as good. I used USGS as i knew the url off hand, and some of the sources were saying different things, so better to go to a more direct source. feel free to change it if you want. By the way, when writing the article, make sure to put the most important details near the top (injuries come before background about the tetonic stabiltity of the region) (inverted-pyramid style) Bawolff ☺☻ 03:26, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah well I thought for all the geographically challenged who either edit or read here or elsewhere - regional context might be on... but hey i have to get off - could you factor in http://www.ga.gov.au/bin/earthquake.pl?title=W%20of%20Kalgoorlie,%20WA.&;magnitude=5.0&;depth=0&;station=KMBL&;xy=121.429,-30.830&;date=20,04,2010&;time=00,17,09&;bg1=eqrisk_lm&;zoom=500 please ? - thanks if you can - cheers - the real world beckons SatuSuro (talk) 03:28, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Hmm accoding the that source, the page is only available for 90 days, which seems kind of stupid (It also doesn't preform any validation. For example here is a magnitude 11 earthquake - [36]. if they're dynamic i'm not sure why it is not valid after 90 days). Bawolff ☺☻ 03:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

BTW - thank you very much for your considered patience with a newcomer - it is appreciated - have been registered for a very long time - but first try of sorts - thank you SatuSuro (talk) 03:33, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

No problem. We are all new at one point. Welcome to Wikinews. 03:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Hope you dont mind - I have left a comment at the admin general page, julians talk and figure somebody might need to create a remedy for such - if one gets in unchecked - wow - every phenomenon known to 'uman kind might have a seer telling us he is here (or she depending on the contents of theirtheir breakfast I suppose) - I would suggest a remedy might be something like WP:SPAM on wp en - as it does link to a blog SatuSuro (talk) 04:35, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, thats fine. The main thing is that its unclear if we should moderate comment space or not except in extreme cases. This is more a case of potentially spam then anything else. I think i'll leave it for now, and let others decide. It is kind of an edge case. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

heheheh I like thatmaybe san diego slipping slowly into the pacific - on the edge literally :) SatuSuro (talk) 04:41, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Expanding Ticker

Hi Bawolff
I've tried to expand your ticker to my wiki but I failed. I copied MediaWiki:ticker2.js, the MediaWiki:common.js and MediaWiki:common.css rows but nothing appears. I've exported similar stuff before and I kinda know the basic, but I failed on this. Do you have any ideas why it wouldn't work out? I would be very thankful for answers and advices.
-- Nintendere (talk) 19:00, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi. To make it work, change line 36 (or somewhere around there) of you Common.js from

addLoadEvent(function () {if ((window.disable_ticker2 !== true) && (document.getElementById("singleTickerForPage") || document.getElementById('enableTickers'))) importScript("MediaWiki:ticker2.js");});

to

addOnloadHook(function () {if ((window.disable_ticker2 !== true) && (document.getElementById("singleTickerForPage") || document.getElementById('enableTickers'))) importScript("MediaWiki:ticker2.js");});

Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:18, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very, very much! It works. Thanks again for your fast help!

Nintendere (talk) 20:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Audio News Briefs file issues

I seem to be having some issues with the news brief files and naming conventions. First of all, when I go to Category:April 19, 2010 the news brief takes up the entire top of the page and everything else that is linked to that date is at the bottom (this is an issue for all dates starting on April 15). Also, there is a problem with the April 19th news brief itself. You mentioned in your comment to me a couple of days ago that we use the News briefs:Monthname day, year not News briefs:Monthname, day year. I must have just put a comma in the wrong place, but now there are 2 pages - one is News briefs:April 19, 2010 and the other is News briefs:April, 19 2010. I see there is a redirect but, well, .... I think I'm just confused because now I don't even know how to ask the question :)

If you have a few moments, if you could look at what I'm doing wrong then I'll fix it all up, but I'm just so confused now I don;t even know where to begin.

Thanks for your help

Turtlestack (talk) 16:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Javascript analysis for forensics

If I can get you some Zeus 'sploit code & logs, tonight or sometime tomorrow, how fast can you work out what its doing? -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^{alt-talk • main talk'} 12:32, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Depends on what its doing, how complicated it is, how obfuscated the code is, etc. I can certainly try. The javascript part is probably only a minor part of the virus though. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:54, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Widget bug

Bawolff, I received the following in EZPR today:

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: badtoken: Invalid token <241:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=6> token=5a6f0e030c1c99ca553e592ae2d2e9d2+\; browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

The article also failed to autosight. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 23:44, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

I've got the same problem too. --Diego Grez ^{let's talk} 00:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Thats odd, as it says its submitting a token (but then erroring on lack of a token)... I'll look into that further. Possibly an issue with the api itself. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:52, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

So far can't reproduce. Tell me if it continues to happen. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Contest

Shouldn't the review script be fixed to add to the new article log and reflect the new point values and user cat naming? --Mikemoral♪♫ 23:19, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I think I broked it

Yeah, this showed up on Make Lead: A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: TypeError: pageText is undefined <81:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fsanbox%2FleadGenerator.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=7> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 04:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Which page were you trying to use make lead with (that error can happen when it has trouble finding a lead paragraph). Bawolff ☺☻ 13:43, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Use of the secure portal

Review works on the secure portal; Makelead doesn't. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 23:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

[37] was done from the secure portal, so works for me. What error are you getting? Bawolff ☺☻ 03:16, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Done Link was wrong, should be fixed now. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

• Out of curiosity, is there any way to stay totally within the secure site? I notice that if I click a commons or enwp link I invariably end up off the secure site, and logged out. Not particularly good. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 15:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I came across some js on Wikipedia that would automatically correct URLs. w:WP:JS I think. Mikemoral♪♫ 22:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I've imported 'pedia's js as a gadget. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:23, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Weird EPR behaviour

On this article EPR posted 2 reviews of the article. I didn't click the back button or anything, so I'm not sure why that happened. I'm using FF3.6.3 if that helps. This has happened to me before, but I've never been certain before that I hadn't accidentally clicked "back", and screwed with the script. Gopher65_talk 02:06, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

You can read all this if you want. It's all relevant, but it's a giant rambling mess, and it will probably just confuse you, so I struck it out. Gopher65_talk 02:47, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Whoa. Also the revisions on the "Revision XXXXXXXX of this article has been reviewed by Gopher65" part are totally screwed up now. That's odd. When I failed the article it didn't have an image. In fact, the second review listed there (the first "pass") is actually the revision that I failed. The final version that I passed is the last one reviewed, and the first one, the one that says "failed", is actually in intermediate revision that I never reviewed... Gopher65_talk 02:25, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I'll note that at one point I attempted to review the article, but there was an edit conflict and it didn't go through (I checked the talk page after the review failed". But, strangely, the version I tried to review actually *isn't one of the ones listed there*, and is actually the version directly before the intermediate revision that I didn't pass.Gopher65_talk 02:29, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

<unindent> So that was a random ramble. Here's my detailed description of the chain of events:

• 1) I fail this article. (rev 1020964)
• 2) He fixes article. (rev 1020972)
• 3) He clicks the "move article to review" button on the "tasks" template and has a very strange Javascript, browser, ISP, or other error. The article is somehow reverted to the pre-review rev 1020957. (rev 1020977)
• 4) He notices something is different, but thinks that it was just the image gone missing. He readds image. (rev 1020979)
• 6) At the same time I try and review the article, thinking I'm reviewing his fixed version. I edit conflict with his "readd image" edit.
• 7) We have a "WTF just happened" discussion on IRC and then I revert the article to his fixed version for him. (rev 1020983)
• 8) I push the "move this article to review" Javascript button on the "tasks" template. (rev 1020984)
• 9) I review the article. (rev 1020987)
• 10) I notice the extra review template, and the mixed up revision numbers on all three review templates. None of the templates have the correct revision number.
• 11) I post here.

Gopher65_talk 02:43, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok, here's what i think happened (not sure, this is all really odd):

1. At 01:24 G628 moved the article to review using button. This worked fine.
2. Gopher65 did some copyedits
3. Gopher65 failed article at 01:34, (this worked fine)
4. C628 does some edit
5. C628 moves back to review using the button at 01:53 (this is where bad stuff starts to happen)
   • For some reason, that acts on the revision from 01:23 not 01:48.
   • This is the revision from last time C628 moved it to review
   • Thus perhaps the revision was cached
6. Gopher65 tries to review that revision, but there is an edit conflict with C628. For some reason, the peer reviewed message gets posted to talk page (shouldn't have happened probably), but article is not published, not sighted, and opinion page is not created.
7. Gopher fixes up the issue from the broken move to review, essentially reverting things
8. Gopher reviews, everything works.

So basically there were two issues:

• The move to review button got the wrong revision. (probably cache related) This is surprising, i need to look into that futher.
• Easy Peer review's edit conflict handling somewhat sucks. Its always sucks and should be fixed.

Bawolff ☺☻ 02:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

A bug to be squished

I found [bug 6092]!!!

If fixed, and my guess at the code is right (haven't looked, see timestamp), You could use {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Lead n}} in your date arithmetic, and either drop the number of leads parameter for a 'degrading' portal, or just have it as a maximum value.

Ideally, and it may already be possible, you can do a check if the page exists as well.

Oh, and looking at your code - that is what's wrong with it; the leads are embedded within the portal page itself. If someone just changes one, when three were previously auto-suppressed, then they'll all reappear.

Late here, you try and make sense of which magic words need hacked, I look at your code again, my over-cluttered brain thinks back to assembly, using macros, and avoiding the crud that came with imposing C, Java, and C++ syntaxes everywhere. Same as HTML was supposedly not readable enough, wikimarkup was born, and we're futzing with templates like mine. :S

P.S. Not hacked below the leads, yet... -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^{alt-talk • main talk'} 02:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} is the current time right now (subject to caching). I think you're thinking of {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}. The fix for that bug was reverted by tim with the comment "Reverted r49575, {{revisionid:...}} due to unresolved CR comments and the general cache-breaking insanity of the concept.". The bug if fixed would probably help with this, however even if fixed today, it would take a while to become live on Wikinews (and in all probability, it will not be fixed for a little bit), thus we probably should not hold out for it. I put all the lead templates directly in the template call because it can detect when edited. I figure that if anyone edits the portal, they can remove the old leads. There's also the issue of where we put the lead template subpages - in the category namespace seems wrong, but putting it in a different namespace from the category also seems wrong. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

p.s. You can check for page existence using {{#ifexist:some page|exists|does not}}. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

• Right. So, ...

1. All Portal templates constrained to a maximum of one lead (I don't trust people not to bollox a multi-lead template.
2. I see if I can log into bugzilla from work, read that stupid bug-reversion, and clarify what I posted at OMGam.
3. We need a MakeLead for the Portal template, but let me work on mine. I'll save my now-functional 1..5 lead code.

I will properly document the templates I've been creating, and then we can talk about what we need to do to put this everywhere. I, personally, and if the bot can be hacked together quickly enough, would favour the whole lot being changed to redirects to categories - but only if a few people are committed to taking the next step to getting professional portals set up. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 10:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

If we can make WN:ML work for portals (a definite future goal, but not something happening this very instant), the concern of people messing around with multi-lead portals where one of these leads is super-old could be mitigated by WN:ML checking how old the leads are, and removing old ones. I don't think the bot would take too much effort to hack up. I definitly agree that are portals have looked way too unprofessional for far too long. I like the idea of them fitting in stylistically with the main page. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:18, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

<edit conflict due to me having to evacuate in fire alarm drill> I was just trying to add an afterthought that a portal-specific makelead could fix the problem. I'm going to keep working on my look-n-feel solution, but a single-lead version should be "mostly hackable" from that right now. For the full-blown thing, I've got the conditional inclusion of 1..5 leads working fine. Now I'm on to tweaking out some of the other bits 'n' pieces.

A passing query would be, is there any way to put the date of an article in the DPL in really small text, and a condensed format? Eg [YYYY-MM-DD].? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 11:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

yeah, its slightly hackish though, and must be done in the external css. Basically put the dpl in some div with a specific class name, and then do div.yourclass li {font-size:smaller;whaterever else} div.yourclass li a{ font-size: normal} . Bawolff ☺☻ 11:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

• Is that havkery that'd shrink [date] and leave the following, linked, article title? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:54, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, basic idea is select all the list items that make up a dpl, shrink them, then unshrink anything in a link, leaving just the date shrunk. Bawolff ☺☻ 15:24, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Moar Wikicode questionzzzz

Can you look at Template:NewPortal/Header. How do I make the "graphic" parameter work and put a flag over the top of the existing graphic? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Define over-top. Like where the wikinews logo background is currently? In the middle like in the new years version [38]? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:54, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Er, perhaps I should've used the word "overlaid". That is, in-line like the text and on top of the background graphic that's in the template.

Oh, and I borked the table code around the damn thing.

The next thing I want to do, and have two days off to hack about with (dependent on getting a doc's appointment for some strong painkillers), is to develop DPL-based content templates to replace where we've most popular, original, &c. That, for a geographic portal, would be the main Politics & conflicts, Health, Crime and law, &c. topical areas as seen on the current Africa portal.

Like all programming languages, the issue with wiki markup using heavy parserfunction stuff is practice. As you'll see in the current version, I am managing to get a lot of the complexity moved down a level or two. I've yet to be brave enough to suss out {{tasks}} and re-use that wackiness to have Portal:United Kingdom drill-down into regions; however, you can probably see where I'd like to go with that.

Lastly, 1. where's/what's the ticket code? 2. We can do most-popular in categories, right? The latter is much further down the priority list, but a full portal-system implementation should be able to include "most popular in Europe/North America/...". -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^{alt-talk • main talk} 00:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

yeah, wiki-table syntax is less than ideal. Personally i prefer html tables to it. parser functions in general have the problem of no variables. In ordinary programming if you have some complicated thing you do var complicatedThing = blah(); in wikisyntax you can't do that which reduced readability. The whitespace being significant (sometimes) also doesn't help readability. {{tasks}} is actually fairly simple. just one giant switch statement. for the dpl content templates, you might want to look at {{portals suck}}, it will be similar to what you want to do. I'll have a look at the graphic. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:11, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, ticker code is at {{ticker}}. It can take any wiki list as a ticker. {{Popular articles}} could concievably be made per-category, would require coding though (not that much though), also has larger issue that some categories simply will not have any popular articles at a given time. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

• Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs! :P

If wikisyntax was Turing-Complete, you could wreak havoc with poor coding.

P.S. Thanks for the pointers! I'll likely pick up more, and bug you once I've had some sleep. Must also devote some time to watching "Going Postal". -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^{alt-talk • main talk} 03:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

P.P.S. I can't figure out why the DPL is partway down displayed lead 1 on Portal:Scotland. What it should now be compared to is the actual main page; I have started moving the more complex, and extablished, coding into subpages. So, it should just be getting the formatting tweaked. Is that solved by saying ShakataGaNai three times? :P -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^{alt-talk • main talk} 03:58, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

lol, all things are solved by invoking shakataGaNai's name. I hate to disappoint you, but supposedly wiki-syntax is turring complete (even before tim added parser functions. something to with the fact you can use a parameter to specify the name of another template to be transcluded can be exploited to make an if statement or something). The dpl is in the middle as tables default to a vertical-alignment of middle. to make it go to the top you have to apply the css vertical-align: top to the table cell containing the dpl. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:25, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

ok, I looked at the graphic problem. I removed the float (the left value in the image syntax). I also made the link a local one, so as to work on the secure server. You may want to fiddle with the size and vertical-alignment of the image (however baseline (Default) seemed to be the best vertical alignment in my testing). Bawolff ☺☻ 06:36, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

• Shaka would've trouted me... MediaWiki:Common.css/Portal:Scotland was missing. Can I do Portal:* for the CSS? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

At that point we put it in the main css. (you can do by namespace in the main css, but really its not the best idea. people don't like it when things behave differently on different page. Its better to use the subpage thing for specific testing, and then when ready for prime time, but it into mediawiki:Common.css. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:56, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

• It is looking quite promising for me having this 95% finished in my couple of days off. I could really do with getting a 'private' chat with you and Shaka in IRC to nail down specifications for tools to maintain portals and have stale leads "degrade" elegantly.

At the moment, I'm abusing Portal:Scotland - so far, so good. That's geographic, and on that front I'd want to be able to have Portal:Europe have drill-down into individual country portals. On a topical side, I'll likely abuse Portal:Health, or Education, and have that drill-down into 'continent' portals.

This is going to be quite, quite, complex, but,... gotta keep ahead of the bot on my edit count. ;-) --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

lol. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:35, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Additional comments tab

Hi Bawolff,

I have a question in regards to setting up the additional 'comments' tab.

You suggested to try the extensions 'CommentPages' or perform a js-hack. It seems that we couldn't get the commentary-extension to work, so I am wondering if you are happy to send me the code and instructions for the js-hack?

A bit more details about what we need:

First of all, we only want to have this additional 'Comment'tab in one of our customised namespaces. The namespace is called 'guidelines'. Everyone has 'read' access to articles and discussion, but only certain groups have editing permissions for articles in that namespace and the respective 'talk'-column... We are using 'Lockdown to restrict those permissions.

So is it possible to set up this additional 'comment'-tab in the 'guideline' namespace only and give everyone access to post comments there? However, they only have reading access for the articles and discussion of the 'guidelines'-namespace?

Not sure if you get what I mean, but let me know if anything comes to mind.

Hi. So you want to give people the ability to post comments to a certain namespace, but not the ability to read the comments that they post? I'm not sure if you can grant edit privs without read privs, but if you can make lockdown do that, then you should be able to make it work. It would probably work much better if people were allowed to both read and edit the comments namespace, as mediawiki really wasn't designed for allowing editing without reading. For the javascript code, do something like (you may have to make sure i got the plural right on the namespace names):

The following js in mediawiki:common.js

addOnloadHook(function () {
 if (wgCanonicalNamespace === "Guidelines" || wgCanonicalNamespace === "Guidelines_talk") {
  addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgServer + wgScript + '?action=edit&section=new&title=' + 'Comments:' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle), 'New comment', 'ca-comments-tab', 'Post a new comment on this guideline', null, document.getElementById('ca-talk'));
 }
 if (wgCanonicalNamespace === 'Comments') {
 addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgServer + wgScript + '?title=' + 'Guidelines:' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle), 'Guideline', 'ca-guideline-tab', 'View guideline', null, document.getElementById('ca-talk'));
 addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgServer + wgScript + '?title=' + 'Guidelines_talk:' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle), 'Talk', 'ca-guideline-talk-tab', 'View guideline', null, document.getElementById('ca-talk'));
 }
});

The following css in Mediawiki:Common.css

/* replace the 100 after the body.ns- with whatever namespace number you use for the public_comments: namespace */
body.ns-100 #ca-talk {display: none}

Note the above code won't make redlinks for non-exisitant pages, for your use i don't think thats important. Also this assumes the skin is Monobook. some other skins won't work as good with this code. Bawolff ☺☻ 09:06, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry, I probably wasn't too clear with my description about the user rights. Everyone should definitely be able to post and read the comments that they post in this additional comment-tab. However, they only have reading permission for the 'guidelines'-articles and default 'guidelines'-talk pages. This additional tab should basically collect 'public' comments.Juttavd (talk)

In that case it should work fine. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Just by looking at the code as a layperson, I am wondering if the suggested change in Mediawiki:Common.css would hide all talk-pages. This is definitely not what should happen. The regular 'talk column' should still appear when you are in the 'guidelines'-namespace.

Also, if we call the new namespace 'Public_comment' do I need to change everything that is 'comments' in the code you sent to 'Public_comment"?

So it would read:

addOnloadHook(function () {
 if (wgCanonicalNamespace === "Guidelines" || wgCanonicalNamespace === "Guidelines_talk") {
  addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgServer + wgScript + '?action=edit&section=new&title=' + 'Public_comment:' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle), 'New public comment', 'ca-public_comment-tab', 'Post a new comment on this guideline', null, document.getElementById('ca-talk'));
 }
 if (wgCanonicalNamespace === 'Public_comment') {
 addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgServer + wgScript + '?title=' + 'Guidelines:' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle), 'Guideline', 'ca-guideline-tab', 'View guideline', null, document.getElementById('ca-talk'));
 addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgServer + wgScript + '?title=' + 'Guidelines_talk:' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle), 'Talk', 'ca-guideline-talk-tab', 'View guideline', null, document.getElementById('ca-talk'));
 }
});

Could you have a look at the modified code and send any corrections?

If we implement the code, can we jump back and forth between article, talk and public-comment-tab as seen on wikinews?

Last question: If we set up the custom namespace 'Public comment', do we still need to create 'Public_comment_talk" even though we don't want it or is this already specified in the code of the hack?

Sorry about all those questions. Thanks in advance. Juttavd (talk)

yeah, you still have to create the extra namespace. Mediawiki expects namespaces to come in pairs, and doesn't work well without the associated talk. However with this code the tab won't appear for it, and it will be mostly invisible. (for example on wikinews we have comments: and comments_talk:, but most people don't know comments_talk: exists) Bawolff ☺☻ 01:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

p.s. as a side note, we (here) also now use liquid threads for the comment namespace, it might be something you might consider looking into. (can't remember if i mentioned that previously) Bawolff ☺☻

Thanks for clarifying. So the code that you sent me includes the 'supression' of the 'comments_talk' pages? So is it ok if I change everything that reads 'comments' in the js-code to 'public comment? I think I need to learn code. Would be so much easier to understand it all...

Regarding Liquid Threads: Not sure if we can install it. I understand that you would need console access?! Unfortunately, we don't have that with our current web host, but we might be able to convince them to install it for us. I really like that extension...

yes, feel free to change the namespace names to whatever you want them to be. In the code above, the part that goes into mediawiki:Common.css is the part that suppress the links to comments_talk: page (Which no that I look at it is actually wrong..ok, fixed now, but you'll need to change the namespace number to whatever namespace you're using for the public_comments namespace). As for liquid threads - yes it requires shell access to install. This is to add tables to the database. Technically if you sql access you can do that by hand without the shell, but its a little more difficult (you have to add db prefixes to table names, and such). Bawolff ☺☻ 06:59, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Arabic MakeLead

Hi there, Idk if you still remember me, I asked you a while ago to work on the Arabian Make Lead. Anyways, You posted on my talk page that i need to add

importScript('user:Bawolff/leadGen.js')

on the bottom of this page Common.js, But since I can only view the source and not able to edit, what do you think i should do ? Please reply on my Arabic Wikipedia page, Thanks. --عمرو (talk) 04:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi my friend! So sorry for disturbing but as you can see, Make Lead is not working on there It just looks different than the one you have, I'm sorry but what else do i have to do to make it working well? --عمرو (talk) 20:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey :) Thanks alot its working now :) But as you mentioned before, Google translate sucks! Please whenever your not busy do the following:

In English Make Lead	In Arabic One	Should be	Note
Make Lead	التحديث يؤدي المادة	أنشئ كخبر رئيسي	button
Lead Number	التي تؤدي	مكان الخبر
Summary method	موجز الأسلوب	موجز العرض
1st sentence	1 الجملة	الجملة الأولى فقط
1st2 sentence	2 الجملة	أول جملتين
1st paragraph	الفقرة 1	أول فقرة
1st 250 letters	الأولى 250 رسائل	أول 250 حرف
1st 500 letters	الأولى 500 رسائل	أول 500 حرف
Make Lead as _#_	_#_ كما تؤدي إنقاذ عدد	أنشئ كخبر رقم _#_	Button. Number should be after the text
Refresh Preview	معاينة مجدد	حدث المعاينة	Button
Current Leads:	مقالات الرصاص	الأخبار الرئيسية الحالية	Table
Article	المادة	الخبر	Table
Position	موقف	الموقع	Table
Age	عمر	منذ	Table
And in the lead number field, Top-Left = أعلى يسار. Top-Right= أعلى يمين. Bottom-Left = أسفل يسار. Bottom-Right = أسفل يمين

Thanks a lot! Let me know if you need anything :)--عمرو (talk) 22:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

A local JS function....

Hi Bawolff,

I received something like this:

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: badtoken: Invalid token <undefined:undefined> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/5.0.375.55 Safari/533.4

What's it?

Thanks,--Notnd (talk) 10:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. That happens when using one of the javascript gadgets that edit the wiki, and it fails. Normally if this happens it happens during easy peer review, as easy peer review is rather complicated and doesn't handle errors well. However considering you are not a reviewer, it probably happened after pressing the "Change this article from developing to requiring review" button, which is quite rare (can you confirm thats one it happened?). I'll have to look into the cause further. Thank you for reporting it. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:50, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Sports Prefixes

Could you please take a look at Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Sports_Prefixes. Please give your thoughts there. Calebrw (talk) 18:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar!

		The Guidance Barnstar
		This well deserved barnstar is awarded to Bawolff for his tirless work on IRC helping editors. Thank you so much for your continued dedication and kindness. Rum (talk) 00:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Tool not sighting

[39] this article was reviewed, and published, but the tool left the article un-sighted. Thoughts? -- Cirt (talk) 23:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Also, [40] this. --Pi zero (talk) 02:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Another. --Pi zero (talk) 04:19, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

IRC JavaScript

Would you please change that line to:

src_attr.nodeValue = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://" : "http://") + "webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23some-channel&uio=MT1mYWxzZQ9a";

Liangent (talk) 03:37, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

for mediawiki:Irc.js? or some other script?Bawolff ☺☻ 19:56, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Small questioon about ticker

Sorry for disturbing you, but I just wanted to ask a question regarding the Ticker code. I've incorporated the ticker2.js onto another wiki and I was wondering on whether it's possible to remove the "Latest News (full list):" bit. I tried removing some part relating to it in the common.css before but then "nullnullnull" was displayed:". --Bigboss4 (talk) 15:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

You can do something like:

<div id="singleTickerForPage" class="isATicker Ticker_speed-5 Ticker_strLeft-%20 Ticker_strLinkText-%20  Ticker_strRight-%20">
*First item
*Second Item
*Third Item
</div>

which makes:

• First item
• Second Item
• Third Item

Bawolff ☺☻ 20:08, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Username change

Thank you for the username change.--William S. Saturn (talk) 22:38, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:39, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Flagged Revisions

Please adjust your recent change to Common.css to use span.mw-fr-reviewlink to hide the link but not hide whole lines in user contributions. Thanks. 99.31.118.187 (talk) 21:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC) responded on wc. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

review gadget

"A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: Error: Error: 0 <undefined:undefined> browser=Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en) Presto/2.5.24 Version/10.53" My internat was having a bad night, that probably has something to do with it. On 'Bloody Sunday Inquiry' publishes report into British Army killing of activists in Northern Ireland. Cheers, C628 (talk) 02:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Thats an odd error. I'm not sure how it could have an error named "0". Thanks for reporting it. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:57, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

ER Error for ya

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: unknownerror: Unknown error: ``231 <241:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=7> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729) Calebrw (talk) 16:23, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

yay! one that is not my fault. Thats an error on the mediawiki (api) side. Tell me if it happens again. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Got a new JS gadget project for you.

So I've got an idea for a new gadget for you to make, I call it "Auto-sight". A little JS that watches for every time you click "save" on an already sighted page, and sights the edit you just saved. I realize it might be tricky to implement, I can't think of how to get around the page reloading issue off hand, but then again I don't do much JS or MWAPI interaction. I also realize you're busy with other things and GSOC... but if you have an idea for how to do this / some time to do so... it would be _greatly_ appreciated. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 19:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

We could just ask for bugzilla:23948 reversed. ;). Bawolff ☺☻ 20:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not even gonna get into the stupidity of that.. Maybe a separate group? --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 20:45, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

At the very least it would be nice if stuff not in the main namespace was auto-sighted. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Well main name space is exactly what I want to sight. Why do I need to take several extra steps to sight something where I'm simply correcting the title of a source? In general, people are always going to sight their own edits... so this entire thing is SNAFU. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 21:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

New gadget! basically just adds that review this revision checkbox but for pages already currently reviewed. The most annoying part of this no auto-sight thing is rolling back to a sighted revision does not sight (which this gadget doesn't help). Bawolff ☺☻ 21:56, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

OS done

You can haz OS. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 02:48, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Whee. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Dwarves vs Dwarfs

All agreed that this can go somewhere - I believe you have a collection...

<Scots_Don>	Floro had advice from invisible dwarves
<gopher65>	hehehe
<gopher65>	Ah the dwarves:)
<Scots_Don>	Dwarves! Dwarves! Dwarves! They provide sage advice when legislating from the bench.
<Dendodge>	Dwarves = Dwarfs
<Scots_Don>	Pshaw!
<Scots_Don>	Not a word I use often
<Scots_Don>	[[wikt:dwarves]]
<Wikilink2>	http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dwarves
<Dendodge>	Dwarves is the version Tolkien used
<Dendodge>	In all other contexts, one should use dwarfs
<Scots_Don>	Thank you J.R.R. Tolkien for indoctrinating me with a spelling error :P
<Dendodge>	:P

I'll point Amgine at it too, I'm sure it'll amuse. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Later, ....

<Tempodivalse>	bawolff: Dwarves = plural of the noun dwarf. 
                Dwarfs = third person singular of the verb to dwarf.
<Tempodivalse>	Uh, bawolff's not here? Nvmd ...
 ...
 ...
<Scots_Don>	[[wikt:dwarves]]
<Wikilink2>	http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dwarves
<Scots_Don>	Recursion (n): See Recursion
 ...
 ...
<Tempodivalse>	scots, what?
<Tempodivalse>	oh
<Tempodivalse>	i was mistaken then
<Tempodivalse>	pesky english spelling

That without permission, just sarcasm. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 19:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I thought, for a moment, that TdV was advocating Scots spelling. I am proud to slip some in now and again without realising. --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

EPR bug

I was reviewing 2010 FIFA World Cup: Spain beats Chile; both go to second round and it threw the following error:

Details: unknownerror: Unknown error: ``231 <241:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=7> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100423 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.3

I was failing the article at the time. --Killing Vector (talk) 02:19, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Bawolff. I visited an article and got the following error:

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: Error: Error: 504Gateway Time-out <235:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bawolff/mwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729)

Matthewedwards (talk) 22:09, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Killing vector's happens when an edit (for easy peer review) does not save, but is not an edit conflict, Matthew's probably happens if a javascript gadget like reviewAlert can't connect to wikinews. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:36, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

JavaScript Error

Hi there, I was instructed to report this following message on your talk page.

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: Error: Error: 12029Unknown <undefined:undefined> browser=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729)

PopMusicBuff ^talk 13:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

EZ PR strikes again

EZPR failed to remove {{Review}} when I failed Former Lithuanian president Algirdas Brazauskas dies just now. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 09:04, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Updated Review/Lead tools

You must've known this was coming.... ;-)

Per our discussion in IRC, I'm going to lay out what I think is needed to compliment the NewPortal template I've been working on. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^{alt-talk • main talk} 07:25, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Current Review/Publish/Lead workflow

At present, assuming an article is okay, this is what my memory tells me the workflow is:

1. User puts {{review}} template on an article.
2. Reviewer, using EzPeerReview, publishes article, and gets option to run MakeLead
3. Reviewer runs MakeLead, copyedits to-be-displayed lead, and posts to a main page lead.

Where we're finding a problem with this is in that people can fight over what goes on the main page as most important, and there is no mechanism to keep portals up to date.

Reviews Review/Publish/Lead workflow

The revised workflow is going to take quite a bit of work, sorry! I'm laying it out as I believe it should flow, then following with several points that I suspect need clarified and resolved.

1. User puts {{review}} on an article
2. Reviewer picks this up, and reviews with EzPeerReview
3. Successful review goes to a new, mandatory, step LeadUpdater.
4. LeadUpdater offers a lead-formatting section, much like the current MakeLead one.
5. LeadUpdater scans the full list of categories an article is in (excluding date categories).
   1. For each category an article is in, where the NewPortal template is in use, and sub-pages for portal-specific leads exist;
   2. A line, giving the portal name, and lead numbers is displayed. 1 thru 5 lead numbers may be displayed, the current lead article title and last updated date should be displayed.
   3. For each portal, the reviewer can check one of a number of boxes (one per lead, per portal) to be updated with the lead template.
6. Following portal lead update, the user-formatted lead template should be passed to the current MakeLead where things go back to the current process.

Commments

• At point 2, reviewers should be alerted when they pick up any article with <1 source, or <3 categories.
• The NewPortal template needs additional changes such that 'stale' leads degrade out of sight. I'm assuming that, if carried out within a script, some sort of "display until" timestamp can be encoded into the portal leads, or into the actual template on the portal page itself. Hints on coding this appreciated.
• There's likely a need to figure out how the NewPortal template can degrade, over time, from the max 5 leads down to none.

So, what's your thoughts on this? In some respects, I suspect it is a fairly substantial amount of coding to get it right. But', it will in the long run substantially improve Wikinews visibility in GNews. If we've multiple, relevant, portals pointing at major stories, then the way the GNews indexing works, that'll influence the placement of our stories.

And, demanding as ever, I'd really like to see this done with future translation for other language versions kept in mind. Based on Amgine pushing you through that on the Wiktionary Hover gadget, it would probably be very useful to document your experience on the process. I've done stuff meant for translation before. It is difficult to get right when you might have a string with two or three substituted variables which, depending on the language, could be reordered.

Up for it Bawolff? I take it for granted that Shaka can be pointed at this too for input. You two are, after all, the Wikinews Developer Team. ;-) -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^{alt-talk • main talk} 07:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree that this will definitely improve things. However it will also take quite a bit of time. Translation in itself is not all that hard when all that needs translating is the interface. The Wiktionary hover gadget is hard to translate because each translation requires essentially re-writing the entire gadget as basically it parses the html output of mediawiki useing regexes (which is a rather bad idea in and of itself), but each language uses different conventions, so each language requires the html reader to be re-written (not to mention writing something to read stuff in a language you don't understand is never fun). With MakeLead this is not as bad. the formating conventions are much closer (a new line = new paragraph is a safe assumption in many languages), and its only a small part of the thing that reads in the wiki-syntax.

One potential issue with the work flow, is do we want all the leads the same. Sometimes we make main leads longer than subsidary leads. But then we'd have to get people to check to different length leads. Something to think about.

Anyways, definitely do-able, but is going to take a bit of effort, and quite a bit of time. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

• Good, good. I didn't think it would be a five minute fix. The point was to lay out as a workflow which is probably a clearer way to communicate it. I assume a variety of bits from the existing system would be cannibalised for the new one. If you can point me at templates (like the review one presented when you start EzPeerReview), then I can look at these a bit and see how they might be improved/future-proofed. --84.13.118.107 (talk) 23:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

The review template at the beginning of EzPeerReview is a big html blob in mediawiki:Gadget-easyPeerReview.js:

var html = '<form id="easyReviewForm" action="javascript:void 0" onsubmit="Bawolff.review.submit(); return false;"><table class="metadata plainlinks ambox ambox-notice EasyReview" id="EasyReview-mainAmbox" style="line-height: 1.2"><tr><td class="ambox-image"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_question-blue.svg" class="image" title="Pictogram_voting_question-blue.svg"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Pictogram_voting_question-blue.svg/60px-Pictogram_voting_question-blue.svg.png" width="60" height="62" border="0" /></a></td><td>' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_rev_numb + wgCurRevisionId + '<ul style="line-height:1.6;"><li><b><a href="/wiki/' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_copyright_page + '" title="' + decodeURIComponent(Bawolff.review_i18n.form_copyright_page).replace(/_/g, ' ') + '">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_copyright + '</a>:</b> <img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Red_x.svg/10px-Red_x.svg.png" id="EasyReview-copyright-image" width="10" height="10" border="0" /><select name="EasyReview-copyright" onchange="Bawolff.review.selectChange()"><option value="pass">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.pass + '</option><option value="fail" >' + Bawolff.review_i18n.fail + '</option><option value="n/a" selected="selected">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.not_reviewed + '</option></select> <label for="EasyReview-copyright-comment" style="visibility:hidden">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_comment + '</label><input id="EasyReview-copyright-comment" name="EasyReview-copyright-comment" type="text" length="30" style="visibility: hidden"/></li><li><b><a href="/wiki/' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_news_page + '" title="' + decodeURIComponent(Bawolff.review_i18n.form_news_page).replace(/_/g, ' ') + '">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_news + '</a>:</b> <img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Red_x.svg/10px-Red_x.svg.png" id="EasyReview-news-image" width="10" height="10" border="0" /><select name="EasyReview-news" onchange="Bawolff.review.selectChange()"><option value="pass">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.pass + '</option><option value="fail" >' + Bawolff.review_i18n.fail + '</option><option value="n/a" selected="selected">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.not_reviewed + '</option></select> <label for="EasyReview-news-comment" style="visibility:hidden">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_comment + '</label><input id="EasyReview-news-comment" name="EasyReview-news-comment" type="text" length="30" style="visibility: hidden"/></li><li><b><a href="/wiki/' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_sources_page + '" title="' + decodeURIComponent(Bawolff.review_i18n.form_sources_page).replace(/_/g, ' ') + '">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_sources + '</a>:</b> <img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Red_x.svg/10px-Red_x.svg.png" id="EasyReview-sources-image" width="10" height="10" border="0" /><select name="EasyReview-sources" onchange="Bawolff.review.selectChange()"><option value="pass">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.pass + '</option><option value="fail" >' + Bawolff.review_i18n.fail + '</option><option value="n/a" selected="selected">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.not_reviewed + '</option></select> <label for="EasyReview-sources-comment" style="visibility:hidden">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_comment + '</label><input id="EasyReview-sources-comment" name="EasyReview-sources-comment" type="text" length="30" style="visibility: hidden"/></li><li><b><a href="/wiki/' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_npov_page + '" title="' + decodeURIComponent(Bawolff.review_i18n.form_npov_page).replace(/_/g, ' ') + '">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_npov + '</a>:</b> <img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Red_x.svg/10px-Red_x.svg.png" id="EasyReview-npov-image" width="10" height="10" border="0" /><select name="EasyReview-npov" onchange="Bawolff.review.selectChange()"><option value="pass">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.pass + '</option><option value="fail" >' + Bawolff.review_i18n.fail + '</option><option value="n/a" selected="selected">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.not_reviewed + '</option></select> <label for="EasyReview-npov-comment" style="visibility:hidden">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_comment + '</label><input id="EasyReview-npov-comment" name="EasyReview-npov-comment" type="text" length="30" style="visibility: hidden"/></li><li><b><a href="/wiki/' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_sg_page + '" title="' + decodeURIComponent(Bawolff.review_i18n.form_sg_page).replace(/_/g, ' ') + '">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_sg + '</a>:</b> <img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Red_x.svg/10px-Red_x.svg.png" id="EasyReview-sg-image" width="10" height="10" border="0" /><select name="EasyReview-sg" onchange="Bawolff.review.selectChange()"><option value="pass">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.pass + '</option><option value="fail" >' + Bawolff.review_i18n.fail + '</option><option value="n/a" selected="selected">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.not_reviewed + '</option></select> <label for="EasyReview-sg-comment" style="visibility:hidden">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_comment + '</label><input id="EasyReview-sg-comment" name="EasyReview-sg-comment" type="text" length="30" style="visibility: hidden"/></li></ul><p><b><label for="EasyReview-commentBox">' + Bawolff.review_i18n.form_comment + '</label></b> <textarea row="3" id="EasyReview-commentBox" name="EasyReview-commentBox"></textarea></p><input type="submit" value="'+ Bawolff.review_i18n.form_submit + '"/> <input type="submit" value="Cancel" onclick="jsMsg(\'\');return false"/></td></tr></table></form>'

Bawolff ☺☻ 23:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom

Hi Bawolff! I've nominated you as an ArbCom candidate, please see this and say if you accept or not. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 01:02, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

• That would be a nomination I've seconded. So get your ass over there and accept! --Brian McNeil / ^talk 08:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

EPR misbehavin'

I've never see this before — a published article that appeared on the main page with the {{review}} tag still visible. It wasn't there, it was just visible; a null edit fixed the problem. I'm not exactly sure how that could have happened in the first place, though. (There was BTW also an article that EPR failed to sight this evening.) --Pi zero (talk) 05:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi. For the first issue - I couldn't cause that if I wanted to :). Sounds as if for some reason something didn't work on the mediawiki end and the parser cache didn't get purged maybe. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• I have to ask, how much easier would Peer Review be if it were done in php, and server side? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 05:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Some. If it was done server-side it'd probably be better for the simple fact that the devs wouldn't let spaghetti code go live on the servers. Some of the code related to sending stuff to the server and checking for errors (the part not well-implemented at current) would be slightly easier. However, by and large it'd be about the same. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

election certificate

${\color {Blue}{\mathfrak {Wikinews}}}:{\color {Sepia}The\;Free\;News\;Source}$

Election Certificate

The election committee for the 2010 Arbitration Committee election certifies that this user was elected to be an Arbitrator until July 31, 2011.

Benny the mascot (talk) 19:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I may have copied from your card template... isn't CC-BY just wonderful? :D Benny the mascot (talk) 17:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

WN:ML weirdness

Please see User talk:Diego Grez#I don't know how this happened --InfantGorilla (talk) 09:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

William_Pietri

You mean, I don't get to shoot Shaka? Damn. I'll keep tryin' ;) Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 22:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

lol. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:08, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

That's your problem right there. Said by Blood Red Sandman, "I don't get to shoot Shaka?" You already shot Shaka. Congratulations. 24.125.55.90 (talk) 22:21, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

You are just one of those who are laughing while contributors to this web site are smitten like fleas. How long do you think you will be able, in the long run, to live off all copycat content, and by the way of having only copyright content being posted here, what does that mean for this web site? To me, it means that it is a pure rip off? That, in itself, which if it is true, and it is, is stupid.

Is it the purpose of this news site to be recording copyright content? If it is, you have your priorities all mixed up.

That might be the purpose of an encylopedia, to gather and record content, but, its certainly not a purpose of a news site.

If you want news to be pretty, I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken. If you want news to be real, then you are going to have to make a leap of faith.

I know. You are incapable of that. Then so be it. 24.125.55.90 (talk) 22:51, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

You're of course free to have any opinion that you like. Well it is true that much (not all) of our content is based on content already published elsewhere, the goal of it is to combine information found elsewhere into a single spot, not simply to copy the information. As for copyright, IANAL, but my understanding is copyright can only cover the expression of an idea, not the idea itself. Thus re-writing and combining information from different sources is not copyright infingement. Anyways, if you don't like what we do here, you don't have to read it. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I read news, and then, I come here and read the same news again. This is stupid.

The only reports that should be published here are orginal reports. Otherwise, you're just an oxymoron. Please realize that the Internet cares not for stupidity. What you are doing here constitutes the very essence of stupidity by repeating what other people say. If you've not the ability to recognize the sheer stupidity of not having the balls to publish original reports for whatever reason you might come up with for not doing so, then , well, then I'm afraid you can't be helped. 24.125.55.90 (talk) 23:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

You have the right to your opinion, however I'd point out that many other news sites are similar in that regard. If you don't like it, why are you here? Bawolff ☺☻ 00:31, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

• Gee, we "can't be helped?" And you tried, how? Publishing polemic diatribe against hard-working contributors? Belittling significant efforts put in by others? Yes, you're right, ideally all content would be original; it is not, but your petty sniping does nothing to help that. It is you, Ed, isn't it? You have to accept that people need experience writing in a news style, particularly if you're talking about not-yet-needing-to-shave kids. Some fraction thereof will move on to doing original reporting, or substantially adding to synthesis material by doing the OR. In recent times, I've only seen Teh Intertubez laughing at us because we reported on spotty youf Justa' Baby publishing his memoirs. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 22:33, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

protection amusement

http://www.wikirage.com/editor/75.47.217.91/ - Amgine | ^t 17:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

easy peer review not refreshing page after review

Its stupid that easy peer review doesn't re-render page after making review. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Adding language to source template

I don't remember, but is it possible to use a lang code in the sources template? |lang=se, for example? - Amgine | ^t 16:22, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Generally its added as a separate template after the source template. {{source|whatever...}} {{se}} Bawolff ☺☻ 18:42, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

<nod> But it would be cooler if we folded that in as an optional {{source... parameter. - Amgine | ^t 15:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

fyi: EZPR untidiness

EZPR seems to be working well, except that today it didn't detect an appropriate place to put the {{Publish}} template, perhaps because I didn't use the 'source' template for some of the external links. --InfantGorilla (talk) 12:01, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for mentioning it. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:57, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Peter Coti

What's wc? I'm kinda new here. And how do you turn off vector? TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 18:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that Bawolff is around. However, redirects to userpages for accredited reporters are allowed AFAIK. What you can do? Create news articles. How do you turn off Vector? Special:Preferences, Skin tab. What's the WC? Our version of Wikipedia's Village Pump. Diego Grez ^{return fire} 18:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Um. How about "Our equivalent of Wikipedia's Village pump"? :-) --Pi zero (talk) 18:54, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

yep, I wasn't here, thanks for responding for me. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

WiktLookUp bug report

at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-dictionaryLookupHover.js#Place to function, just fyi. - Amgine | ^t 15:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Username change

Wikinews:Changing username suggests I "post a note on the talk pages of all bureaucrats". I asked one who's on a bit of a break so, if you have time, could you take care of this. Thanks, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 08:41, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer nom

Yep, go right ahead. Thanks, WackyWace^talk 16:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Police may have killed up to eight tourists in Philippines hostage crisis

Hello. Thank you for responding to my concerns regarding the news article that has now been renamed "Police may have killed up to eight tourists in Philippines hostage crisis". Unfortunately it is still misleading. From my understanding, of the 8 hostages that died there is inconclusiveness surrounding up to 4 or 5 of the deaths. It is within the realm of possibility that they may have been killed by friendly fire, but there is also the possibility they were all killed by the perpetrator. I think a better title would be "Police may have killed some of the eight tourist victims in Philippines hostage crisis". Lambanog (talk) 02:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

MakeLead for portals

If I recall correctly, I think you were going to make a version of WN:ML for portals? Is it ready yet? If so, could you give me a link to it? Thanks. --Yair rand (talk) 19:28, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

I was planning to, but... it hasn't happened yet (I haven't even started working on it). Bawolff ☺☻ 22:25, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk page attacks

Please go ahead and protect my user and talk pages for a while - I don't use them much anyway. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 00:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree. NawlinWiki's talk pages are often vandalized cross-wikily because he's an impressively active admin on en.WP, and the vandals follow Nawlin everywhere. --Diego Grez ^{return fire} 00:27, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Speaking of Wikthover...

I have to compliment how well it dealt with the WMF server-down error page. It served it, and I was even able to c/p the entire msg. Graceful. - Amgine | ^t 15:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Trust me, thats not intentional and is the result of a hack to make something else work... :P Bawolff ☺☻ 16:58, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

<chuckle> That's not a hack! that's a feature... - Amgine | ^t 17:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

• For future reference, the appropriate phrase is, "it's not bug! It' a feature!" --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: User page

Thanks for the protect, I have been the personal target of some trolls lately. red-thunder. 00:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

js errors on secure

I get about a half-dosen js errors on my phone accessing via the secure site. Many are missing reference stuff. Can you take a look? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:17, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Without access to your phone, I'd need to know the exact text of the error (since the errors are not reproducible on firefox). As a work around, these errors are most likely caused by a gadget (specifically reviewAlert, or review Progress gadgets as they are the only one's that should be able to trigger an error on page load), you could perhaps disable these gadgets if you don't need them. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:17, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Cache-like mispublish

This was in Articles mispublished because the published revision was supposedly unsighted. I eventually fixed it, but not by sighting the published revision: I tried that and it didn't take (and then I tried it again, because anything that doesn't work is worth repeating, right?). What worked was a null edit — which caused it to show up as having been sighted by BRS. So it seems EPR did sight it when published, but there was some sort of bizarre cashe-like problem. The incident vaguely reminds me of earlier thread #EPR misbehavin'. --Pi zero (talk) 22:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, thats really odd. BRS's original sighting from easy peer review did go through (as evidenced by the logs [41] ) but i geuss the tables didn't update due to some obscure mediawiki bug, and the null edit caused the flagged rev tables to update. In any case this one isn't Easy peer review's fault, but rather odd nonetheless. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:34, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Tiker in russian wikinews

Hi, Bawolff! Can you help to make a Ticker for russian wikinews? We need in it. Thanks. --Akishin D. (talk) 15:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

yeah sure, but not right now, maybe on the weekend. If you use irc, I'll probably be on the #wikinews channel this weekend as well (if you don't use irc thats ok to, but sometimes these thngs are easier to explain on irc). Bawolff ☺☻ 16:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

responded at ru. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I did make everything correctly? It does not work. --Дмитрий ^обс+ 12:33, 29 сентября 2010 (UTC)

Did you try doing a hard refresh. It appears to work for me on ru. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Now we have ticker. Thank you!--Akishin D. (talk) 10:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Your defence of Brian McNeil

I find it a bit peculiar that you came to the defence of McNeil. Those assembled were demanding that he himself, not of some surrogate, give an account of his own actions. He still has not. He chose to stay away, in line with the suggestion he made to Diego, in the hopes that the storm against his patently indefensible actions would die down. In the small-circle environment which is Wikinews, it is quite telling that you guys are closing ranks when the Alpha male is under attack; the page now locked down.

McNeil

Did I use Jimbo's name in vain? Well, I decided against 'god', it would have been too gratuitous of me, being an atheist. I used the founder's name as a reference point, to highlight the abuse of power that was taking place. Jimbo, of all people, does not consider himself above the law, but somehow McNeil appears to consider himself guardian of the constitution, judge, jury and executioner. His behaviour is well out of order; and your defence of him puts you in the same ball-park.

McNeil is greatly damaged by this episode. The whole fiasco is also a great discredit to Wikinews, and reflects badly on the apologists. I wonder how long it would be for one among you to challenge his position – he is extremely vulnerable. When will you deliver the coup de grace? --Ohconfucius (talk) 06:10, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

WN:AAA is "closed down" because both sides are making it worse. I was _hoping_ that everyone would take it as a hint and go cool off for 24 hours. So please, instead of picking this fight up on random pages, take a day off. Go outside, enjoy the weather (if it is nice), relax... try to enjoy yourself. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 06:35, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Baaawolf accused me of taking Jimbo's name in vein (sic), and that needed to be addressed. Ohconfucius (talk) 08:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Respectfully, I supported the block originally, and thus when brianmc was asked for his rationale for blocking, I thought I should give mine, since I supported it at the time. It seemed unfair to only ask brianmc for his justification, when others (or at least I) supported it at the time. (Since that time I have reconsidered my opinions. I was a little angry, and I allowed that to colour my opinions, which is bad. (Crossed out because that wasn't very clear). All I was trying to say is my comment (or at least the one you were referring to anyways) was primarily meant as a defence of my actions, not brianmc's. I'm willing to go through the more formal dispute resolution w/ a mediator if you (or Tony) think it would be helpful in bringing this drama to a close Bawolff ☺☻ 11:15, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Others might well be angry, but that is not helpful on a wiki. I must say, I'm wondering why more established users here aren't taking their own action. Tony1 (talk) 06:20, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Secure I/F crashes

Hai, you might be able to diff/spot a problem I've experienced today.

I access my watchlist or RC via secure & it crashes the Nokia browser. If needed, Skenmy can CU me to get the browser ID. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:37, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

well thats weird. Not exactly sure what could cause that. Some mobile browsers have issues with really long pages and/or large amounts of js that overflow available memory. Not sure if nokia is one of them. Check if you can always re-produce the error, and see if it still appears on the small rc. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Curly braces

pop template - Amgine | ^t 05:26, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

• Sigh, that means we're really unpopular. The script takes a list of all the popular articles on wikinews, then filters to just the 45 most popular, and checks to see which of the 45 are in category:Published. If less than 15 of those 45 are in category:Published, bad things happen. (I've upped the 45 to 80. Hopefully this won't happen again That caused problems. Investigating futher). Bawolff ☺☻ 10:47, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Use the ExternalEditor without Perl

Hi Bawolff,

I see that you are the current developer for the ExternalEditor Extension. My company would like to use this extension to edit Flowchart .dia files with Dia (like it's described here or other file (MIME) types if it's possible. The problem is, the installation of an old Perl version on every computer isn't practicable. So my question is if you feel up to program an external editing extension for Mediawiki for my company. Of course you would be paid for your work. Contact me, if you're interested: --Immortal King (talk) 17:04, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for the offer. Unfortunately I already have too much on my plate as it stands, so I simply don't have the time to do something like that. The current client side external editor implementation (ee.pl) is definitely showing its age, not to mention almost impossible to set up for your average (non-technical) user, so getting it replaced with something more usable would be a big improvement for the external editor feature in general. Thus I wish you luck in your efforts. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:36, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, and thanks for your quick answer. --Immortal King (talk) 17:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Welcome template question

Hey Bawolff, I hope you are doing well. :) I have a quick question. I want to add some sort of gadget and/or script for Wikiquote, very simple: just to add tabs for adding {{subst:Welcome}}~~~~ or {{subst:Welcomeip}}~~~~ to a user talk page, as a new subsection on that page, with "Welcome" as the subsection header. Do you know how I can go about doing that? -- Cirt (talk) 08:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey, basically want to try to modify MediaWiki:Gadget-UserMessages.js, for Wikiquote. -- Cirt (talk) 10:37, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, copy q:user:Bawolff/vector.js to q:MediaWiki:Gadget-UserMessages.js and set up the whole gadget thing with q:mediawiki:Gadgets-definition. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:19, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Can it be changed, to add the Welcome message, in a newly-created ==Welcome== subsection? -- Cirt (talk) 20:40, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Done Bawolff ☺☻

Thank you!!! -- Cirt (talk) 20:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I tried adding it as a personal script, here, m:User:Cirt/welcome/vector.js, but it did not work, why? -- Cirt (talk) 06:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, it works, thanks! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 07:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

EPR

I have a couple of stray thoughts on how we might perhaps make things more fault-tolerant:

• EPR when publishing an article should remind the reviewer to make sure the edit was sighted. (I don't remember seeing such a reminder...)
• Could makelead check to see whether the article has been sighted? Most or all of those four articles were made leads even though they weren't technically published.

The occasion for these thoughts is that four of the past seven EPR passes (that I know of) failed to sight, and one of those four didn't even edit the article. ([42], [43], and [44] merely didn't sight, [45] didn't even edit the article.) --Pi zero (talk) 12:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Wow, thats kind of pathetic that 4 of the 7 failed to sight. Implementing some post-publish sanity check hopefully wouldn't be too hard. (fixing the error handling code is what really needs to be done, but thats harder). Bawolff ☺☻ 13:42, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

And [46] makes 5 of 8. We'd have a filibuster-proof majority in the US Senate. --Pi zero (talk) 01:41, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Popular articles

Hi Bawolff, Sahim Approved you, You Can help us, Please Use الگو:خبرهای محبوب instead of Template:Popular articles, and you should replace "hits last hour" Sentence with "بازدید در آخرین ساعت" and one more thing is these are Persian numbers "۰ ۱ ۲ ۳ ۴ ۵ ۶ ۷ ۸ ۹" Please Use they instead of "0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9", and Main popular Template on Home Page is الگو:اصلی محبوب‌ترین‌ها, Thanks a lot. Mjbmr ^Talk 22:04, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Will hopefully do sometime this afternoon. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:15, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Questions in regards to flagged revisions and comments

Hi, I would like to ask some questions in regards to flagged revisions. Is it correct that unregistered users will only see articles and article updates once they have passed the review process? We are just setting up a wiki for our organisation and need some good quality control. It would be great if you could let me know how it works. I find the documentation on mediawiki hard to understand...

Also, I am wondering what 'wikinews' did in order to create the 'comments' column. We would like to have an 'expert talk page'-column (only for registered users) and then a talk page-column for everyone in our wiki... I am wondering what we would need to program. Did wikinews install an extension to get this additional 'comments' column?

Thanks for your help! Juttavd (talk)

/me thinks i responded to this earlier elsewhere. If i didn't, feel free to yell at me. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:44, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Hell-o

Hello old friend, I see my article still is waiting for review :D Get your admins and work :D Hope you're well!Danger^Mouse (talk) 09:44, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Howdy. Welcome back. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:14, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Bawolff bot@fa.wikinews

Hello! Your bot has been flagged on fa.wikinews. Best regardsSahim (talk) 19:20, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:04, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

EPR fail

Again. Any idea what caused this (MW update, script update?) and if it's the latter, can it be undone until it is fixed? —fetch·comms 03:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I haven't touched the script in a while, so its definitely not a script update. I'm not sure what is causing the issue. You guys are not getting any errors, and getting the standard success message for all these reviews?

Just to clarify, you're reporting that the article didn't sight? I notice there was a previous (pre-publish) version sighted:

# (show/hide) 02:15, 8 November 2010 Fetchcomms (Talk | contribs | block) reviewed a version of Chilean miner Edison Peña completes New York Marathon ‎ ([Accuracy: Sighted])  (revision: 02:15, 8 November 2010) 

That is unrelated to the complaint right? (It doesn't look like that was caused by ezpr since it doesn't have the right sighting summary). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:20, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Looking through the code I discovered that if there was no error reporting if the api both did not return an error, and did not return a success. If you suddenly start getting a whole lot of pop up boxes with the message: "Error sighting article" let me know. If (after hard refresh) there are still instances where the article does not get sighted with no error messages whatsoever, also let me know. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

OK. The pre-publish sight may have been accidental with the autosight gadget, but I'm not sure why ezpr didn't sight the published version. —fetch·comms 17:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Yep, the not sighting the published version is definitely a bug. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

note to self - fa people need opinion page js.

---^. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:08, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Popular articles

What happened to your bot?... Its last edit was ten hours ago. Diego Grez ^{return fire} 13:21, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Bawolff bot borken, blocked

thot you ought to know. - Amgine | ^t 17:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Bot broken

As Diego has noted on Template talk:Popular articles, your bot is malfunctioning and I've had to do the dreaded emergency bot block. :( Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 17:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Popular articles template on fawikinews

Hi, Check this out too, it stopped working on fawikinews too, thanks Mjbmr ^Talk 17:52, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Hiding the centralnotice banners

Please don't do it. I've undone that.

The Wikimedia Foundation provides the hosting for this site, and once a year we run a campaign asking for money. I don't think that's such an unreasonable ask. If you'd like to discuss, I'm happy to, but please don't hide the banners again. You're welcome to hit the "x" and close them. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 21:37, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm surprised at you, Philippe. The false suggestion that Wikinewsies wish the fundraiser to go away altogether has been used once before, and is simple moral blackmail. As you know, I have expressed satisfaction at how the fundraiser is being handled this time around - and I am amongst WN's more vocal critics of previous efforts. The gadget is opt-in. People will not miss the fundraiser because of the gadget. Donations will not be affected. It serves the same purpose as the "x". I do not feel feel the gadget is particularly needed in light of that improvement, but given that it is largely redundant to the WMF's own addition I cannot see what basis you have to imply Bawolff wishes the WMF to cease fundraising on WN. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 22:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

How it is right now is perfectly fine. Opt-in gadgets aren't a problem. At the time Philippe did that because no one was being able to see banners on wikinews regardless and it appeared to be enabled globally. I'm seeing banners now after you've put the gadget back in so that is obviously not a problem anymore. Jalexander (talk) 22:14, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

In that case, I withdraw my remarks. I apologise, Philippe. I was unaware it was an honest mistake, and remember being rather hacked off myself when Godwin tried to state as fact that I wanted to deny the WMF the ability to fundraise. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 22:17, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the issue was, but for some reason, the gadget earlier was affecting me, without it selected. It seems to now be working appropriately, in which case I (of course) withdraw my objection as well. I apologize for my tone above, obviously I was unhappy to have them disabled globally, but I have NO objection to them being disabled on a user-opt-in basis. Thanks! Philippe (WMF) (talk) 22:38, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

• You should have known this discussion would bring me out the woodwork. I quit ComCom before an effective "posse" was rounded up to throw me out. What, exactly is wrong with a 'gadget' for real contributors (as in content) to avoid the appeals?

I recall last year all-too-well. It was a shameless insult to every project other than Wikipedia. Part of the measures I instituted after that debacle is that there is a "please donate" link on the main page of Wikinews 365 days a year. It is a shameful, and groundless, accusation to insinuate that sister projects object to fundraising. We are ALL painfully aware how important it is; we all know full-well that Wikipedia is what will tug most at the heart strings.

Provision of a gadget for those who are wiki-savvy to opt out is trivial. You're forcing unwanted advertising on people who've probably "donated" hundreds, if not thousands, of hours to project content.

Jeez, Phillipe! Have a sense of perspective! If the WMF decides to arbitrarily remove 'opt-out' gadgets, then they're taking an editorial interest in the projects. I, implicitly, trust Bawolff not to make fundraiser opt-out trivially easy. On the other hand, I assume that whatever cookie counters the WMF uses will be, repeatedly, reset. So, for those who've made a donation, and dismissed the appeal, they will be subjected to it repeatedly - unless a permanent opt-out option is available.

I appreciate the work you're trying to do, I respect the importance of the fundraiser, but I am strongly inclined to say you are not showing appropriate respect to dedicated project contributors.

So, perhaps best to step back from this, no? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 23:25, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Brian, not a thing is wrong with it. Which is what I said, just above this :) "...but I have NO objection to them being disabled on a user-opt-in basis." Philippe (WMF) (talk) 18:26, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

The instant the fundraiser launches... I stop by IRC to see if the yearly revolt had started. Fun time, fun times. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 19:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

---

Sorry for the confusion folks. As an aside, I think my edit summary here was quite appropriate... Bawolff ☺☻ 03:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Resolved?

Well, it seems better than last year - so far. Text-only 'banner', great. It might be better if it said "an appeal from Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, and the Wikimedia Foundation which helps Wikinews keep afloat." --Brian McNeil / ^talk 20:13, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Guyanese shadow finance minister Winston Murray dies aged 69

EPR failed to sight this. This time it did give an error message:

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: Error: Error: 500Internal Server Error <235:https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=7> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101026 Firefox/3.6.12

(Actually, IIRC it failed to sight when I published something the other day, and didn't give any error message. I forget why I didn't mention that one to you at the time...) --Pi zero (talk) 15:59, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Adding to Pi zero's error, this article Korean_Peninsula_on_the_'brink_of_war':_DPRK didn't sight upon review. EzPR threw an error, but I didn't copy it before I clicked away. Probably the same as Pi zero's. Thanks:). I'm going to review Deigo's water treatment plant article now. I'll leave you another note saying whether or not it auto-reviewed upon publish. (All Spanish sources. *sigh* This is going to take me forever to copycheck. My Spanish sucks.). Gopher65_talk 02:19, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

I got a similar error, but with MakeLead... (thanks Gopher by the way!) Diego Grez ^{return fire} 02:26, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

I just got the same error with diego's article. Gopher65_talk 03:32, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

29 presumed dead after second explosion at New Zealand mine

Didn't sight. The time sequence was —as last time— that the MakeLead button was visible for maybe a second or so, and then it put up the error message

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: notarget: Cannot find a flagged revision with the specified ID. <241:https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=7> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101026 Firefox/3.6.12

--Pi zero (talk) 17:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

bugzilla:26110. (I saw this on bugzilla, and thought, oh this is going to be fun). Bawolff ☺☻ 18:30, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Devs say it should be fixed now. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:33, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

{{Ticker}}

Hi, Bawolff. I'm sysop on the recently created eo.wikinews. I was trying to import your {{ticker}} template to there, but I was not able to do that. I copied the template (eo:Ŝablono:Ticker) and the .js page (eo:MediaWiki:Ticker2.js). Then, I've made these edits: [47] and [48], to point the right Esperanto URL and category for published articles. But, it didn't work. I don't knot what is the problem, maybe is missing other .js or something in our .css. Can you help me to handle with that? Did I forget something? Thanks in advance, CasteloBranco^msg 10:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you also need some stuff from mediawiki:Common.css and mediawiki:Common.js. Specificly:

Add to eo:mediawiki:Common.css:

/*Ticker2 (animated ticker)*/
ul.actualTicker li {list-style-type:none; list-style-image:none;}/*mostly for IE*/
ul.actualTicker li {display:inline;}
ul.actualTicker span.tickerIntroduction {font-weight:bold;padding-right:0.5em;}
 
div.isATicker, div#singleTickerForPage {display:none;}

Add to eo:mediawiki:Common.js

addOnloadHook(function () {if ((window.disable_ticker2 !== true) && (document.getElementById("singleTickerForPage") || document.getElementById('enableTickers'))) importScript("MediaWiki:ticker2.js");});

If it still doesn't work after adding that, let me know. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:51, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

It works, now, Bawolff, thank you very much! Nice job =) CasteloBranco^msg 00:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I should really write this all down on a page somewhere. Its a common question. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:52, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

MakeLead improvements, tweaks

I know you're pretty busy but, can you at some point expand MakeLead to highlight articles that have pending changes when it's run? Just of those someone might choose to update onto a lead. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 10:25, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Empire Strikes Back director Irvin Kershner dies aged 87

EPR failed to sight ([49]). --Pi zero (talk) 15:21, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

ok. No error messages? Bawolff ☺☻ 18:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Brian McNeil published, so I wouldn't know (though I imagine if there'd been an error message, you'd have heard from Brian directly). --Pi zero (talk) 20:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Also failed to sight: [50]. --Pi zero (talk) 19:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I just got a fail to sight message on the British government scrap planned rules on pay equality article. The error message said: "Sight error code: 4." Δενδοδγε _τ\^c 12:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

ok, now i really don't know whats going on, as easy peer review actually worked correctly: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=review&user=&page=British+government+scrap+planned+rules+on+pay+equality&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= Bawolff ☺☻ 21:29, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

new theory. Success message appears before it actually sights the said article (that in itself is a wtf, how can something not done yet be successful), and then people navigate away from the page before the sight this page part goes through. I changed it so success message shouldn't appear so early. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

I had a pop-up appear informing me of sight error 4. Surely I wouldn't get a popup if I had navigated away too early? Δενδοδγε _Tinsel\^Christmas! 22:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

No, I think earlier people had such issues. In your case you got the error 4, but the sight actually went through. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:09, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Leaked cables cause Australian concern

Apparently, EPR didn't edit the article at all. The talk page edit went through, which is how I verified there'd been a legitimate pass. [51]. --Pi zero (talk) 16:13, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I've been experiencing some weird javascript errors this morning (I had DragonFire confirm that it wasn't just me). I think it's just a mediawiki issue. Amgine said they were pushing out an update to something or other this morning, so maybe that caused some problems. Gopher65_talk 16:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. Most of the stuff in [52] seem to be fundraiser related, but there is some mention of changing some flagged revs config. Are the issues still happening? Bawolff ☺☻ 19:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so. Some javascript controlled things weren't working on Wikinews this morning for an hour or two (like EzPR, and the edittools bar below the edit box). At about 9am CST it cleared up. I haven't heard anyone mention any problems since then. Gopher65_talk 02:59, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Weirdness

Do you see the following?:

• I click on this page: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Comments:Wolfsburg_player_draws_criticism_for_withdrawal_from_squad
• It shows three tabs. The article tab, the Discussion tab, and the Opinions tab. All three are blue.
• Click on the Discussion tab. Wikipedia like "there is no page here" message shows up.
• Notice that blue Discussions tab has disappeared, and been replaced with a red Wikinews style "Collaboration" tab.
• Click the red Collaboration tab. The (empty) Wikipedia-styled discussion page disappears, and is replaced with a Wikinews-styled (empty) Collaboration page, complete with the normal javascriptted warnings about page creation.

Do you see that, or is it just me? And is that normal, or is that some weirdness just on that page? Gopher65_talk 23:07, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. I think the reasoning was that in general people aren't going to be on an opinions page if the talk page doesn't exist (due to the review template), so the check to see if the talk page exists isn't done. (aka whomever wrote the script was lazy). It says discussion instead of collaboration presumably because the script was written before we changed discussion to collaboration. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

As a nitpick, the talk link links to talk:Wolfsburg player draws criticism for withdrawal from squad, where, ideally, it should link to Talk:Wolfsburg player draws criticism for withdrawal from squad. Just to give you a bit more work ! — μ 12:14, December 16 2010 (UTC)

To be fair, The first letter of the namespace names are case insensitive. Changed to capital (its still encoding the spaces in a non-canonical way if you want to be really nitpicky). Bawolff ☺☻ 16:31, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, at least it says collaboration now:). Thanks. Gopher65_talk 12:40, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

May your family have
a joyous holiday season
and a new year blessed
with hope and happiness.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

The Ceremonies for Christmas Day (Robert Herrick) Kindle the Christmas brand, and then    Till sunset let it burn; Which quench'd, then lay it up again    Till Christmas next return. Part must be kept wherewith to teend    The Christmas log next year, And where 'tis safely kept, the fiend    Can do no mischief there.

If you don't celebrate Christmas ... Happy (belated) Hanukkah! Happy Eid al-Adha! Happy Kwanzaa! And of course, Happy Festivus! May this holiday season bring you the music of laughter, the warmth of friendship, and the steadying hand of love. ☃

—fetch·comms 22:55, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

EPR weirdness

This. I only clicked the button once... — μ 12:00, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Maybe easy peer review really hated that article. I have no idea what caused that, the code doesn't have any error handling that retries upon failure. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:12, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Changing username

Hi, sorry to be a pain but if you have a free moment do you think you could check Wikinews:Changing_username#Tmorton166_.E2.86.92_ErrantX, much appreciated (I just grabbed your name as crat who had been active on that page before) --ErrantX (talk) 14:41, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch! --Errant (talk) 10:09, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

A Thought

I wish Neutralizer was still around; I'm sure he'd get a kick out off all this Wikileaks stuff happening recently. 24.229.102.138 (talk)

Nice try. — μ 10:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

yes, he probably would. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:24, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Re: wikilink2 in #wikinews

Good (morning/afternoon/evening/delete whichever not applicable) :) I'm just leaving a note to let you know that around 01:03GMT this morning, Your bot, Wikilink2, caught signal 15 (SIGTERM) and exited the channel. I would assume from my knowledge of linux that it was probably a reboot or powerdown which did it, but Wikilink2 never came back to the channel. Could you please take a look at your earliest convenience and try and wake him up again please? :) Thanks, BarkingFish (talk) 01:59, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it needs to be restarted manually. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:40, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey there, it would appear that Wikilink2 has gone down again. Regards, — μ 22:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Special:Export question...

Hi,

I need to fetch the namespace (ns) property of a page (e.g. 0 for articles, 1 for talk pages, 2 for user pages, 3 for user talk pages and so on, see also this example) in order to separate "conventional" articles from the rest; unfortunately, Special:Export does not include said number into its XML output. Since I (ideally) don't want to execute two different queries for the same article, do you know by chance if the XML export assembled by Special:Export can also be reconstructed by using the api.php module? Cheers,Soccer-holic (talk) 12:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Special export kind of gives you the information, as it gives the full title, with (written) namespace, and at the beginning of the output, it gives what id all the various namespace prefixes are. If you have a specific api query, you can export the results of that query using the export and exportnowrap parameters. For example https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/w/api.php?action=query&generator=allpages&gaplimit=4&gapfrom=T&prop=info&export&exportnowrap

Thanks, your hint definitely gave me a push into the right direction. In the meantime (and after painfully realizing that the API's default output format is not XML – lost three days with that alone *grmbl*), the automated category determination works like a charme. Next up: Adding code for the various semantic enrichment tools. Thanks again! --Soccer-holic (talk) 12:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Weird error

I clicked on a not-yet-created LQT comments page by accident when meaning to click on the talk page link. I got a popup with

ASSERT: Giving up waiting for the tab closing animation to finish (bug 608589)
Stack Trace: 
0:([object XULElement],[object XULElement],1)

Is this supposed to be happening? bugzilla:608589 doesn't exist, it seems. —fetch·comms 16:33, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

It's a firefox issue. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=608589 Bawolff ☺☻ 19:16, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

NewsWire in IRC

Hey Bawolff. NewsWire seems to be posting up review alerts of articles that have already been published. If you could please have a look or something, that would be great. :) Have a nice day, ~YTT ^{T | C} 22:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

There was an issue earlier where the toolserver had a high replication lag for wikinews. I think it was fixed. The feed can be disabled by typing

Newswire: feed pause review

Bawolff ☺☻ 18:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Request

Request

You seem to be active at the moment. Could you review Wikinews interviews Jim Hedges, U.S. Prohibition Party presidential candidate, I've been waiting for this for a while now. Thanks.--William S. Saturn (talk) 18:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, can't at the moment. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Pernickety EasyPeerReview suggestions

Hey there. Could I be very annoying and ask for two tweaks to the EasyPeerReview system? One is minor: could you add a space between the tick/cross and the confirmation message at the end of every (un)successful review? Secondly, is it possible to refresh the page before displaying the message: so that the final "product" is shown straight away instead of having to hit F5 to make sure that what happened was meant to happen? Regards, — μ 23:08, June 1 2010 (UTC) bumping so the stupid bot doesn't archive. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Speculation on EPR upgrade

I've been meaning to ask whether you think it would be feasible to set up EPR so that it has a second check (akin to the one about reading the talk page) to see whether the revision being reviewed is the most recent revision. Of course one wouldn't want to prevent review of a less-than-most-recent revision, but one might require opening a diff in a separate window.

There was an incident the other day where two reviewers both reviewed the same revision, and the first one failed it while the second one passed it — which is really bad form. A warning to the second reviewer sure would have been helpful. Less damaging, but still annoying, on two recent-ish occasions I've been one of two reviewers to both fail an article (one just now, reminding me that I meant to ask you about this). --Pi zero (talk) 19:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, well its supposed to give a warning if there is an edit conflict, so it should theoretically already do that. (I'm not sure how well that warning works though). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I seem to recall once failing an article at the same time Pi zero did. There wasn't an edit conflict because the only thing that happened was insert {{tasks}} and add a section on the talk page for the Peer Reviewed template. Gopher65_talk 15:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

What about adding a link that, if clicked, plonks an {{inuse}} template (or rather, a new 'review in progress' template) at the top of the article? With (if it's possible), perhaps a timer that'll revert itself if the reviewer doesn't click the link every five minutes or so? — μ 15:53, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

The idea I'd floated —originally because it seems simple enough to be highly robust, but I also hope it wouldn't give any impression of time pressure during the review— was a gizmo similar to the check-talk-page business already in place, but opening a diff in a separate window. EPR wouldn't even have to determine whether or not there has been any change: just always present the check-box/open-separate-window combination, and if the diff shows no change, that's fine. --Pi zero (talk) 17:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Template want

wikt:Template:PL:pedia <- small inline link to wikipedia. We got something like that? - Amgine | ^t 20:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Pipe trick? [[w:Foo|]] turns into [[w:Foo|Foo]] automatically on save. Or do you mean the cutesy icon? Bawolff ☺☻ 20:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Would like the full range of sister projects available as a cutesy pipe trick with logo, yes. I think the full suite of templates is called "projectlink" or some such. {{pl|project|title|[lang=fr]}}- Amgine | ^t 23:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Appearently, {{W article}} which i just found out about. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Gadget idea

Would it be worth, perhaps, to check all links to Wikipedia in a page to see if a local version exists? (Also, User:Microchip08/gadget-link.css borrowed from ptwikinews, would be nice as a gadget ;D) — μ 19:34, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Such a gadget would presumably set up a proposed edit, for the operator to examine and perhaps manually customize.

I've long been mulling over whether to propose a rather lower-tech device: a template {{w|...}} (superseding the rather useless existing template of that name) that would check for a local link, and link to Wikipedia otherwise — and put the page into one of two hidden categories depending on which it did. That way, when starting a new category, one could hold off creating a mainspace redirect to it until it was reasonably well populated, and then switch all the text links over to it at once. One might also want a variant {{wikt|...}}.

We wouldn't want to recommend {{w}} for use by ordinary users; too difficult, not the wiki way. But I wonder if it might be useful for your gadget to use a local link if available, and otherwise use {{w}}. --Pi zero (talk) 20:01, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking perhaps simply changing the formatting of the links; for example Paula Radcliffe → Paula Radcliffe, as a simple cue to reviewers that one can change the link if desired. Another vaguely hi-tech idea would be to make a TS tool the equivalent of [{Special:WhatLinksHere]] (but cross-project). — μ 20:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

For Pi zero's idea. Do-able, but it would be limited to 100 such links on a page (due to expensive parser function limit). Personally I think we should just link to Wikipedia if we want to link to Wikipedia, link to ourselves we want that, and not change the article after its published. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

(100, huh. I thought it was 50, back when I was learning templates.)

Even if it were possible for a Wikinews article to have 100 (or 50 :-) links in the text without being overlinked, it surely wouldn't be possible if we weren't so hideously under-categorized; the purpose of the hidden categories is that once the link becomes local, the template should be replaced with a hard local wikilink (and before, when the link is non-local, that hidden category facilitates finding candidates for new categories). One might want to limit the use of {{w}} to archived articles, to avoid confusing lay contributors with it.

I can't agree about not fixing non-local links after publication. Non-local links are a compelling (more so because largely subliminal) reason we appear to outsiders to be an organ of Wikipedia; in an independent project, wikilinks in the text of the main articles are to the same project. We have to be able to migrate in that direction. --Pi zero (talk) 21:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I just checked, the limit is actually 500. Well the idea is certainly do-able. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

mw:Manual:$wgExpensiveParserFunctionLimit says the default is 99. --Pi zero (talk) 20:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

We're not using the default. The limit is listed in the html source of every page. See http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php for where its set. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:38, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

fix the document.write's in wikinews js

Bawolff ☺☻ 05:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC) Done

make ezpr consider edit conflicts to start from page load, not review time.

Bawolff ☺☻ 21:00, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Bawolff/archives. You have new messages at User_talk:BarkingFish#noindex_on_WC. You can remove this notice by removing {{replied}} from your talk page.

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BarkingFish (talk) 23:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Feedburner RSS feed shows no titles

Hi. For some time (a few days?), there have been no article titles in the RSS feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/WikinewsLatestNews --AVRS (talk) 19:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't actually maintain the Feedburner feed, but I'll look into it. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

caused by rev:76127. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

PeerReview Problem on Persian Wikinews

Hi, i got some error :

Details: TypeError: elm is undefined <744:http://fa.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Mediawiki%3Amwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101026 Firefox/3.6.12

Thanks Mjbmr ^Talk 12:36, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Which page were you reviewing? — μ 12:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

an article, always in all articles Mjbmr ^Talk 12:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Updating CSS for Htab Box

Coming back after a few years gone, I was curious as to what happened with Htab Box (Discussion), I remember one of the issues was that the boxes didn't look so nice in Internet Explorer and Opera. Now that CSS-3 is here, and all modern browsers support rounded box corners, could we update this? :-) -- kamnet (talk) 09:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

If you're willing to do the updates :P. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

DPL and CSS help

Hai!

What's the nofollow for a DPL? And, what's wrong with the CSS for my test subpage?

If I can fix these points, I can fix a lot of the review/GNews crud.

I may need help getting EzPR tweaked later. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

You can set a nofollow=true option, and google won't follow the links (See mw:extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia) for the list of all options). Which user page is this? Bawolff ☺☻ 18:29, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I think I found it. id's have to be unique within a page, don't use them for that sort of thing, instead use classes. The class attribute is a space seperated list of class names so you can have as many as you want. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:02, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

• My CSS-fu is weak. What I want is a replacement for {{Main headlines}} that goes back to the per-day style, listing reviewed articles so GNews grabs them, and self-published with nofollow, and only the last couple days, but with the suspect stuff coloured differently. The idea is to keep peer review but lower the bar to a front page listing. Meet Amgine's demands without losing the credibility when stuff goes to GNews. Any ideas on alternate publish templates welcome. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 00:04, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Ok, what you want is a rule like .MainPage_latest_news_unchecked a { color: green } (or whatever colour). From a usability prespective though, I'm not sure how this is going to work. How would the end user know the green (or whatever colour) is the non-reviewed ones. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:51, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

• Will worry about that later. But, is there a wikicode way to tell if a page is reviewed? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 09:08, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

• I've moved this test/concept to {{Main stories}}. Can you help sort out some of the tech issues around CSS and so on? Would also value your input on workflow (which I'm just going to add to the talk). --Brian McNeil / ^talk 14:38, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Baking cookies now

Will need an address at some point... - Amgine | t 22:44, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

lol, I didn't think you were actually serious about that. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:21, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Serious enough... gives me motivation to send cookies to the kid as well. btw: does this accidentally remove 'googlenewssitemap_badfeedobject' from en, or is that my imagination? - Amgine | t 05:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

No, that was intentional. I changed it to just die with an exception instead, since that error can only happen if its configured very very incorrectly (If the default category page name specified in LocalSettings contains a character like [ that isn't allowed in page titles) so there's not much point translating the message, since the user could never cause it. p.s. I'm emailing you my address. Bawolff ☺☻ 15:33, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Huh. Well, its been translated further down in that translation wiki revision. - Amgine | t 15:40, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

The docs say only to remove from English (At least for core messages. I assume that applies to extension messages to). Bawolff ☺☻ 15:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you! --74.34.142.85 (talk) 02:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

"the million and one threads on the topic" on talk pages

"the million and one threads on the topic" on talk pages. Really! And talk page discussions are considered community discussions with impact? I wasn't aware of that. Two people exchanged comments, "the million and one threads on the topic" and that's it? Resolved? Sarcasm noted. It doesn't seem that you are concerned about attracting and retaining contributors at wikinews. Mattisse (talk) 00:28, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

The comment was not meant to be sarcastic (hyperbole maybe?). It was a serious note meant to help you find what BarkingFish was referring to. It was not meant to say that the issue was resolved. On the contrary discussion seems to be ongoing. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:39, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Meeting in 'under an hour'?

That's really going to give people an opportunity to plan to attend. Out on the mailing list, what? Yesterday?

I know, not your fault, not you that lacks any patience whatsoever, but still...

You have to agree it is daft to assume this might work when n00bs don't get a chance to find out and no agenda is on the table. Nor are established contributors allowed to plan how to explain the arrival at current policy.

It might well not be an attempt to provoke conflict intentionally, but the shortsightedness will likely make it so. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 20:31, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm somewhat leery of lack of an agenda. In my limited experience, IRC meetings that don't have clearly defined agendas tend not to work. But on the other hand maybe it might, who knows. At the very least I doubt its going to cause any new problems (at most it will only bring to the surface problems that already exist). Bawolff ☺☻ 20:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Tamil wikinews

Hi Bawolff, currently we're using the following service to feed the news via the feedburner: http://toolserver.org/~mjbmr/rss/rss.php?title=Tamilwikinews&lang=ta&family=wikinews&cat=Published&lim=10&ns=0 But it's not working any more. It is greatly appreciated, if you can suggest any other services that can be used to feed the news? Thank you.--Kanags (talk) 11:04, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I've modified my feed to the following:

http://toolserver.org/~bawolff/rss.php?title=Tamil+Wikinews&domain=tawikinews&cat=Published&lim=10&ns=0 Any suggestions?--Kanags (talk) 12:11, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

The http://toolserver.org/~bawolff/rss.php?title=Tamil+Wikinews&domain=tawikinews&cat=Published&lim=10&ns=0 link should work fine. (or even something like http://toolserver.org/~bawolff/rss.php?title=%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%AF%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF&domain=tawikinews&cat=Published&lim=10&ns=0 / whatever the translated version of Tamil Wikinews is). If you have any problems with it/ need any help, let me know. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Technical question

How difficult would it be to implement the button on the develop template on enwiki, so that when clicked, it adds a template to the same page but does not remove the original template on which the button is located? —fetch·comms 14:31, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

On enwiki? Fairly easy if you're content on requiring users to add stuff to their user js. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I mean, for everyone, on Common.js—although, could you get me the necessary code so I can test it out personally, and figure out how to use different templates with it? —fetch·comms 03:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

addOnloadHook(function () {
    var changeDevelopToReviewButton = document.getElementById('develop_to_review_link');
    if (changeDevelopToReviewButton) {
        try {
            //in a try since this makes some assumptions about the format of
            //the {{tl|develop}} template, which could change.
            importScriptURI('http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=user:Bawolff/mwapilib2.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
            var button = document.createElement('button');
            button.type = 'button';
            button.appendChild(changeDevelopToReviewButton.firstChild.firstChild);
            changeDevelopToReviewButton.replaceChild(button, changeDevelopToReviewButton.firstChild);
            button.onclick = function () {
                if (this && this.firstChild && this.firstChild.data) this.firstChild.data = "Loading...";
                api(wgPageName).getPage().
                    setDefaultSummary("Edit summary").
                    replace(/^/, "\{\{template to add}}\n").
                    savePage().
                    lift(function () {
                        alert("The article is now listed as needing review.");
                        location.reload();
                    }).
                    exec();
            }
        }
        catch (e) {}
    }
});

This will look for anything with the id develop_to_review_link, and replace it with a button. I took out the bit that removed the original template. This probably doesn't meet enwikipedias js standards (mostly do to the (my) external library). If your intention is to have it enabled there, it'd probably need to be re-written using jQuery. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:37, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Can you look at this? Someone is getting errors "Empty string passed to getElementById" and "api(wgPageName).getPage is not a function". —fetch·comms 02:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Bug report

Behold! The strange, syntax-breaking linebreak of doom! — μchip08 16:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

lol, I suppose it should strip new lines before putting it in the header. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:10, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I know how much we all love feature creep

Could you make EzPR do a check to see if Comments:{{PAGENAME}} exists before publication (or, perhaps, even review in order to allow {{delete}} tagging by non-admins in a timely manner) to prevent Comments:Apple's data is dirtiest, says Greenpeace from happening in future? — μchip08 20:16, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

At the moment it does check, and does nothing to it if it does exist (in comparison to potentially double adding the header). Is deleting pre-existing comments really the right thing to do? Bawolff ☺☻ 19:28, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, at the moment we delete comments pages for unpublished articles precisely for this reason. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 19:33, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

JS function

While reviewing a article, the funtion had a problem to occur, and now the review notices show "A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: Error: Error: 504Gateway Time-out <undefined:undefined> browser=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/5.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; BOIE9;ENUSSEM)." --[[::User:Nascar1996|Nascar1996]] ([[::User talk:Nascar1996|talk]] • [[::Special:Contributions/Nascar1996|contribs]]) 16:09, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Just having a quick séance

Is there anybody there??? :) Just checking you're still with us, Bawolff! Not seen you for a few days, here or on IRC. If you're busy, we understand. Regards, BarkingFish (talk) 19:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm Alive! Just without internet for a couple days :) Bawolff ☺☻ 19:29, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Review in monobook

I am not seeing the review tab come up to use easy peer review in monobook, can I do this? -- Cirt (talk) 11:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Thats weird. It does come up for me when using monobook and viewing an article that is reviewable. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I shall try again at a later point in time, and get back to you. Thanks for the prompt response. Hope you are doing well, Bawolff. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 20:15, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

I am soliciting your input please!

I am attempting a Dispute resolution at Wikinews:Dispute resolution/Brian McNeil and Mattisse and I am soliciting your input as to the problem. I urge you to give feedback. Soliciting input is the next step in the Dispute resolution process. Please do! I cannot copy edit or write articles until this is resolved. Regards, Mattisse (talk) 00:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Spamming multiple users talk pages is generally frowned upon. Soliciting input is fine, but you should avoid bulk sending messages. As to your dispute with Brianmc, I've stopped paying attention to it as I'm tired of the drama (there's something to be said about picking your battles). However, from what I did previously read, As always, there's merit to both sides. Some of your complaints are legitimate, a large portion are not. Many things said to you, you seem to take them to mean something very different then what was actually said [Most people in my experience aren't very sympathetic when that happens]. I'd advise you to consider things from the other person's perspective. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:31, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

I did not realize it was considered spamming, as I was following the directions on Wikinews:Dispute resolution: Step three - soliciting wider community input.

Do you really think that I am a meatpuppet per Brian McNeil? "I am 90%+ confident this is the case, and appropriate diffs will prove such to the community's satisfaction. If I am forced to waste the time digging up such data, I will; those involved in such covert collaboration can rely on their imagination for the community's reaction to exposure of orchestrated disruption.[53]

Do you really? I have worked so hard at writing articles (59 on my own) and improved innumerable others. I have really tried. I have no contacts or "friends" here, just a few I trust like Pi zero. This is so bizarre. Whatever I have done in the past, the unfortunate use of sockpuppets on wikipedia, even there I was never accused of being a meatpuppet or of vandalising, or of harassing others. My sockpuppets, wrongly I know, made good edits and never vandalized. I have never had an agenda. I am a writer and editor. I admit I may over react when attacked. And I do not understand the rules here. I am not a child as Brian McNeil seems to think but an educated professional, retired continuing with my consulting business. I have a Ph.D. and have practiced my profession for over 30 years: forensic psychology. To be treated like a child who doesn't know who the Wizard of Oz is - that is humiliating. Because I am not British, I should not be punished nor forced to use British expressions or watch a British tv show on Brian's demand. I don't like tv. I thought this site was open to other nationalities also. Sadly, no. With regrets, Mattisse (talk) 01:05, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

P.S. Check my edits. I have only been here since February 20 so that is not such a big job. I don't know what Brian McNeil's agenda is; I am not up on his past history, so I don't know what he thinks I am trying to do. It is very confusing. No wonder editors do not stay here. It is very sad, because, having done a great deal of writing in my profession and been considered one of the best copy editors and writers at wikipedia, it is a shame I cannot contribute here. Best wishes, Mattisse (talk) 01:05, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Just for the record, I do not dispute that you have many positive contributions. I also do not feel you are a meatpuppet. As in almost every dispute, both sides are somewhat in the wrong. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Comments tab

Hey there Bawolff :) I see you voluntered in bugzilla to help es.wikinews get the very-sought-after comments tab. I dunno when you'll do it, but anyway: if you need help with any translations, just say the words. Oh, and do tell any admin once you've "finished" the code so we can add it to Common.js.

By the way, which is the particular extension of liquidthreads that you guys use here in en? Julián ^(reply) 11:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Alright, what you need to do:

1. Copy over mediawiki:Comments.js to es:Mediawiki:Comments.js
   1. There's a couple lines near the top that need translation. Ask me if you're unclear on what any of them should be. OpinionNS should be 100 instead of 102. (comments on en is namsepace 102, on es it is 100).
2. add the line if (wgPageName !== 'Portada') importScript( 'Mediawiki:Comments.js' ); To es:Mediawiki:Common.js
3. Add the following to es:mediawiki:Common.css:

/* hide the Comments_talk namespace */
body.ns-100 #ca-talk {display:none;}
body.ns-101 #ca-edit {display:none;}
body.ns-101 #ca-addsection {display:none;}
body.ns-90 #ca-talk {display: none;} /*thread pseudo ns*/

Lets me know if you have any trouble or need any help. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:37, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Seems to be working well. Doing some testing around on different cases to see if it shows any bug/loop and if we have to do some troubleshooting regarding that. But otherwise it seems to be working ok. Btw, do you have any local/particular configuration for LiquidThreads? Julián ^(reply) 01:24, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Its kind of hacky though. The easyPeerReview script automatically creates the page with a stub template header on review. Additionally we have a script to modify the readfeedback extension (feedbackhack.js) that adds a comment box, which auto creates the comment pages (With #useliquidthreads) when someone makes a comment. Last of all we have some css and a little bit of js that changes the interface a bit to hide complex parts. We've found the users get very confused by the Search in this thread, and sort by fields, so we hid those. We also (recently, like as of an hour ago) made the start a new thread button front and center, because we found users skimmed the page and totally missed it. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

EPR Error note

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: unknownerror: Unknown error: ``231 <241:http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABawolff%2Fmwapilib.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&scrver=7> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1

Calebrw (talk) 06:03, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

This error is caused by something wrong on the mediawiki side of things (from the docs a "This usually means some kind of race condition or DB weirdness occurred."). In a perfect world this would cause Easy peer review to retry saving the page, but the world is not perfect ;). Bawolff ☺☻ 18:38, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Tab in the es wikinews

Hello Bawolff, I just wanted to thank you your help to the spanish wikinews, It looks very nice the tab. Thank you again--Lcsrns (Talk) 22:18, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

No problem, glad to help. Actually it gave me a good excuse to fix the issues with the script that we've been using on en that have been bothering me. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:13, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

EPR sight fail

First time in a while, that I recall. EPR failed to sight this for Ashershow1. --Pi zero (talk) 01:55, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. hopefully its an isolated incident. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:02, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

EPR failed to sight this for Wackywace. --Pi zero (talk) 16:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I was just thinking its been a long time since this happened. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

For reference, I have no idea why this is happening at this point (unless user navigated to another page in the middle of a peer review). If anyone gets any errors while reviewing stuff let me know. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Another. --Pi zero (talk) 16:07, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Another. --Pi zero (talk) 23:59, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Welcome script not workin on Meta

This stopped working on Meta. Any thoughts as to why? Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 02:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Any ideas? -- Cirt (talk) 00:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, seems to work for me [54]. Do you have any other scripts or gadgets enabled that might cause problems? Bawolff ☺☻ 02:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Just clock in corner, small edit lede section thingy, and hot cat. None of those conflict on other projects. Thoughts? -- Cirt (talk) 05:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Caused by meta:Mediawiki:Gadget-edittop.js (tries to use the function get_query_value on edit pages, which does not exist, and breaks all other js when on an edit page.). Bawolff ☺☻ 15:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay thanks, I will remove that and try without it. -- Cirt (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

That fixed it, thank you so much!!!! -- Cirt (talk) 20:43, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

GNSM

• Is this ready to deploy and get Google to use it? (I may have a few "issues" finding the contact details for 'em again). --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

It is as far as i know. The relevant url that google would use is http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:NewsFeed?hourcount=48&notcategories=AutoArchived%7CArchived%7CNo_publish%7Cdisputed (This will be any sighted article in category published, in the last 48 hours, not in the notcategories.) Bawolff ☺☻ 06:06, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Block pls

Special:Contributions/Orso, getting boring. —fetch·comms 19:06, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I was waiting to see if he would continue after the warning. Now blocked. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:07, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

ty, now I hope he excuses me if I have a little fun with this. —fetch·comms 19:08, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Question from de.wikinews

I'm from German Wikinews. Could you help us to install a page like your Template:Popular articles for the German wikinews project? We would be grateful if you would like to help us with this topic. --Wolf-Dieter (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Template:Official website

• Template:Official website

Any ideas why this works on en.wikipedia, but not yet here locally? -- Cirt (talk) 15:51, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

IANAB, but maybe it has something to do with {{official website/http}} not existing? DENDODGE 16:12, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

That seemed to have fixed it, thanks! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 16:15, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

rofl on the IANAB. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Review gadget

Got a notification on Eritrea accuses four Britons of espionage and terrorism that said it was unable to determine the revision id of the article and was falling back on the last one or something to that effect. Using IE9. C628 (talk) 00:47, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Error message when changing leads on home page

Hello. I've gotten this message twice already:

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: permissiondenied: Permission denied <undefined:undefined> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5

I'm assuming the problem is that I'm not a reviewer? Ragettho (talk) 14:42, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's probably the problem (assuming that the edit went through and just wasn't cited). It should handle errors much better then it does. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

• Speaking of errors... Bawolff bot is failing to add Clarence Clemons, Springsteen’s E Street Band sax player, dies at 69 to the popularity template - I'm assuming this is due to the ’ not being supported. Amirite? (FWIW, I seem to recall similar problems back with Śrī Satya Sai Baba, which I also put down to the weird characters.) Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 20:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, The script that checks if an article is in category:Published doesen't decode fancy characters properly. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

It would be great if we could get that fixed, it seems to be a fairly regular problem. I think my old Python script was ok with the weird characters, but can't remember. I may have a play around with it tomorrow. (Also, is that really what the iPhone's user-agent looks like? That's horrendous!) the wub "?!" 00:25, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

In theory the hacky piece of crap i have should be fairly easy to fix (in theory). Its trying to compare percent-encoded characters with non-percent encoded characters for equality, which doesn't work well. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your helpfulness. Now, the ticker is working on Turkish Wikinews, too. Have great day. Koc61 (talk) 13:09, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:50, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

WikiLove

Hey Bawolff! Quick question: how much effort would it take to get a WikiLove button on Wikinews? Ragettho (talk) 05:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if the WikiLove people are deploying it outside of enwikipedia yet (They might want to keep the deployment small at first until the initial bugs are shaken out, I'm not sure). I'll ask around tomorrow when the WikiLove folks are on irc.

Excellent. As you may have noticed, I like sending thank you notes, so a WikiLove button would definitely make the task much easier, yet equally meaningful. :) Thanks for all the tech work you do here! Ragettho (talk) 06:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

We aren't currently planning any further deployments until we have a better idea of the tool's impact. You can always ask for a deployment on the tool's talk page on MediaWiki.org but I know that localization is going to be a major hurdle for it.--Jorm (WMF) (talk) 19:25, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

WikiLove? Sounds dreadful :-). (Also, shouldn't that be "Wikilove", unless we want to train everyone to spell the project names wrong?) /me wonders if some people wouldn't be willing to pay not to be on the receiving end of something called "WikiLove"... and if that mightn't be a source of additional donations. --Pi zero (talk) 19:45, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

As long as you add an entry in the prefs to switch it off, as I have already done at enwp, I wouldn't mind this being here. BarkingFish (talk) 21:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Ticker

Any ideas re this wikinews-l post? — μchip08 20:22, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

ArbCom nomination?

Would you accept nomination for another year on ArbCom? The deadline for nominations is 2000UTC on the 17th. --Pi zero (talk) 17:26, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

I have nominated you in absentia. --Pi zero (talk) 18:31, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the nomination, I'm quite flattered to get nominated in absentia, not to mention all the votes I got while I wasn't even here. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Extracting Image Metadata

The question when we can expect more meta-data raised anew in commons:Commons:Help_desk#IPTC_Information.

Did you know about Exif-Tool? It's licensed and written under/ using perl license. Sincerely -- Rillke (talk) 08:57, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Make Lead problem :(

A local JS function experienced an error on an API request. Please leave a note at User_talk:Bawolff. Details: Error: Could not determine which revision to sight <undefined:undefined> browser=Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5

Ragettho (talk) 18:17, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments.js for russian wikinews

Hi, Bawolf. Could you help us to install it? I copied the code, and translate part. Then I followed the advice for Spanish Wikinews (by changing the namespace), but there were errors. --Akishin D. (talk) 07:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

downloading WN archives

Would you mind responding to a question on Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance#Is there a downloadable archive? Best, Ragettho (talk) 03:28, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Responded. Thanks for letting me know about the question. Bawolff ☺☻ 15:52, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Count articles a DPL will return

I could have sworn there was some way to simply get a count of articles that a DPL would return; but, even prodding the code doesn't show up anything for it. I assume that implementing mode=count to return an integer value up to the max allowed for the DPL install wouldn't be that difficult to implement.

Oh, and there's bug:30621 which could do with some vote-loving care. This is just to get the relevant RSS/Atom/sitemap feeds spat out. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 01:59, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

For mode=count - currently not. However if its for a single category, you can do {{PAGESINCAT:catname}}. /me looks at the bug. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:55, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I know there's the straightforward PAGESINCAT, that's not what I want. In doing the portals (see Africa) I found some wouldn't have a full-length list of "news" if archived stuff is excluded. I'd wanted to have a list of the unarchived, followed by the most-recently archived in a different colour, to give a constant list length. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 15:57, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

EPR sight fail

[55]. --Pi zero (talk) 00:16, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

By Gryllida's account, the gadget went on its tea break and never came back. --Pi zero (talk) 06:32, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

MW Extension development

Hai!

You maybe saw BRS's musings on the WC about a "database of experts" for OR use stored on the Wikinewsie closed wiki.

If this were added as an additional table in a MediaWiki install, with relevant code to support reasonable integration, how challenging would that be to turn into an extension?

Sort-of "thinking aloud", I'm envisaging the following table as the start of such an extension:

Firstname

Lastname

Title

Email address (several: office, personal, &c)

Phone number (several: office, personal, &c)

Location

Area of expertise

Wiki page

Category list

I'd imagine there's already a really, really basic FOSS contact management system that could be converted into an extension to do what we'd need. If the on-wiki display of material, and space for freeform notes, is a special namespace I think such a system could be an interesting extension. I found PIM Support (experimental) on the MediaWiki wiki, but effectively abandoned.

The ideal is to be able to browse a Rolodex: namespace, have an "email this contact" link similar to "email this user" (but, with drop-down of emails registered), and in the Rolodex: page a list of who emailed, when, and links to a log/copies of the emails.

Anyway, the relevant questions are: 1. Know anyone who might like to work on such an extension? 2. Know any FOSS package that'd make a good foundation and not be too difficult to integrate with MediaWiki? 3. Where do you see the gotchas in actually defining a specification for this? --Brian McNeil / ^talk 23:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

That really depends on what you want to do with that information (How different from just sticking it in normal wiki pages would this be. Is it just using mediawiki's email feature + a private log of who emailed whom? [that's relatively easy] Or do you want to do other stuff with it). Integrating already existing programs with MediaWiki cleanly can sometimes be a challange (Its often easier to start from scratch if you're looking for something to be really cleanly integrated).

Ticker

I saw you have created Template:Ticker, but we need scrolling text for Turkish Wikinews. If it was HTML, I could do it but I don't know Wikitext or Wiki Marking Language. --Westnest (talk) 15:19, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Help

Could you please answer me on here? AMERICOPHILE 18:02, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Odd EPR glitch

I've a theory why this happened. It's a new one in my experience, though. Publishing an article, the gadget didn't remove the breaking-review tag. My theory is, the gadget didn't recognize the tag because it used redirect {{breakingreview}}. diff. --Pi zero (talk) 13:13, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

that would be correct. Should be fixed now. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:27, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Popular News bot

Hello, your bot in Persian wikinews is not functioning proper. This is the version which is ok, but in later versions (like this) some meaningless characters are shown. I've protected the page temporarily as it was over-widening the main page, so if you want to check it please do it on a test page, then if it was working proper please let me know on my talk page. I will unprotect the Popular news page. Thanks for your help --Wayiran (talk) 10:23, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, looks like things are being quadrople encoded somehow. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:02, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!

As it seems from bugzilla list, you solved "the bug of persistent djvu page thumb". Thanks from Italy (and it.source)! --Alex brollo (talk) 01:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but I actually just marked it as a duplicate of another bug. The bug was actually solved by Mark Bergsma, who discovered that one of the programs that removes old cached things for folks in europe, wasn't turned on. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:57, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Fa(r)cebook updates

Hola, my Canadian geeky friend!

Facebook have, finally, disabled updates being pulled-in via an RSS feed. This means enWN articles only appear there if someone mucks about and manually posts them.

Would you be able to help in terms of pulling some code together to auto-psot stuff from Wikinews to Fa(r)cebook when it gets published here? We're losing as many as 10k readers for each article as a result of this. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 20:14, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

problem

hi bawolff. how are you. thank you for attention to fa.wikinews. your bot have problem. If possible, please check. thanks bawolff.--Sahim (talk) 17:35, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

oh, thank you bawolff :) --Sahim (talk) 18:37, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

/me actually hasn't done anything yet. The issue is more with the data the script is receiving so is intermittent.

Yes, you say correctly. thanks for attention bawolff.Sahim (talk) 09:52, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Notification gadget

Hi, I used your code and modified it in fa.wiki and i have two problems

1. I wanted to use it for tagging templates in namespace=0 but it shows me errors that name space is incorrect.
2. in fa.wiki we have this gadget (as default for notify in talk pages) but my new revision is mixed by fa.wiki gadget and they have conflict. what should i do?
   

I save my revision on w:fa:کاربر:Reza1615/vector.js.
thank you for your time.Reza1615 (talk) 11:27, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Category:January 1, 2012

I'm guessing you might know why this category doesn't exist, and more importantly what should be done about it. (I wouldn't care to manually create something that would then gum up the works of the automation.) --Pi zero (talk)

User:Zach used to run a bot that took care of those back in the day. Now it appears user:GrondinBot has created many of the recent ones. I wouldn't worry about any manual creations screwing things up. I suppose we should ask Grondin about it (He's generally active on frwikinews if i recall). Bawolff ☺☻ 11:23, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Ticker

Hello Bawolff, if you can please contact me. I would like to improve this project [56] main page with "your" ticker. I am really not a skilled programmer and a cant run it. We will be now set you up as admin :) 85.246.108.149 (talk) 20:14, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Comment From portuguese Wikilusa our recognition to you as person and as a great wikipedian that make us all proud. ... WikiSysop

Caching

Seems like lately Google News isn't caching articles, not as many show up there, such as Santorum neologism gains prominence during US election cycle. Any ideas as to how to fix it? :) -- Cirt (talk) 04:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

hmm, not sure. That article seems to be the only recent one though, everything else on the main page seemed to be crawled by google [57]. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:29, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Okey, let me know if you think of something. -- Cirt (talk) 06:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Hexmode gave me a list of crawl errors, but the article wasn't listed on it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bawolff (talk • contribs)

Hrm, okay, thanks. -- Cirt (talk) 23:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

dictionaryLookupHover.js

Hi, I wanted to install this gadget on fa.wiki but it show me this error This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.. what should I do? please help me.Reza1615 (talk) 10:58, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

thank you it solvedReza1615 (talk) 01:31, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I didn't do anything, but that's good to hear. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:07, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Please see my heads up at ArbCom talk page

Please see Wikinews_talk:Arbitration_Committee#FYI:_Heads_up_regarding_Viriditas. Just wanted to keep you in the loop, -- Cirt (talk) 19:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

RSS question

Hi Bawolff, I saw your name on the toolserver for RSS feeds, and so I thought you might know the answer to this. What would be the code I would use for Feedburner for the "original feed" if I were to create one for a category of a Wikinewsie? Lots of writers here make categories, like Category:Crtew (Wikinewsie). The feed I'm looking for would generate x number of articles from that category by date. Thank you for your help, Crtew (talk) 01:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Use something like https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewsFeed&feed=atom&namespace=0&count=30&hourcount=-1&ordermethod=categoryadd&stablepages=only&categories=Crtew_%28Wikinewsie%29 The different parameters mean different thing. namespace=0 limits it main namespace, stablepages=ony filters out non-flagged pages. mw:Extension:GoogleNewsSitemap has some docs on the different parameters. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Redlink cat on my user page

Quick question, any ideas on why there is a redlinked category "Cirt", on my user page? -- Cirt (talk) 05:21, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

That's probably my fault. The bots (whatever they are) that used to set up our various date pages stopped working, and I've set up an infrastructure to make it very easy to do manually (centered, in an only slightly flawed way, on Category:Pages requesting maintenance). As part of that, I created a template to set up the DPLs on the date pages, but I'm guessing it doesn't work right when the date page is transcluded elsewhere. I suppose I'll have to work on that in my copious free time (but atm if I had that kind of time for Wikinews I'd be reviewing...). --Pi zero (talk) 06:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah, okay, no worries, thanks for the explanation! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 17:42, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

AFD

Hello Bawlff, could you please try to help with your opinion here [58] Regards

Sorry, I didn't notice this at the time when it was relavent. However, in general I don't like to meddle in Wikipedia's deletion process. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:48, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Fix a bug?

You've poked your head into API list=logevents does not correctly unserialize log_params, do you think you could poke your head into it? -- MarkAHershberger (talk) 19:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

That bug looks fixed? Bawolff ☺☻ 00:06, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

http://www.mediawiki.org/?curid=84252 - shortesturls

Thanks Bawolff for your answer at http://www.mediawiki.org/?curid=84252! I have thousands of curid based urls. Please see listing some of the WikiMedia pages http://www.librarything.com/topic/135064#3320851 . In a larger sense this is related to the usage of Authority control number also used at wp.no and wp.nn. Best regards Gangleri (at LibraryThing) ‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 17:37, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Bawolff for your answer at http://www.mediawiki.org/?curid=84252! These days I realized that I do not have enough knowledge to modify existing /common.js JavaScript code as created today at http://test2.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2827 : The .js page should be useable without modifications on any wikis of the WikiMedia Foundation. Could you please give me a hand? Thanks for any help in advance. Best regards user:Gangleri ‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 08:52, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

FYI: I posted m:User talk:RobLa-WMF#shortesturls. Best regards ‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 09:37, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

The js file is using some of the deprecated js functions, but it should still work as-is on all wmf wikis. btw, are you aware of bugzilla:1450 which will probably get enabled soonish. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:41, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer!
I inserted some anchors: #shortesturls and #shortesturls:JavaScript Could you please help at the part in italic at #shortesturls:JavaScript? Thanks in advance! Best regards Gangleri
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 12:19, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Irc.js

Hey Bawolff! I came across this page a few years ago and I thought it was super cool. Now, though, wikizine is no longer an option. Could you possibly rewrite it to work with webchat? Is that feasible? I think it'd be awesome to port to other wikis (WMF or otherwise) who use irc. Thank you and have a nice Sunday! :) Killiondude (talk) 06:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

The thing basically just loads a second page, so provided the webchat thing can be preloaded from a link, it should be feasible. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:29, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Ticker@wn.ar

Hi Bawolff, sorry for such an unprofessional question: why does your ticker not work in Arabic Wikinews? I tried to simply copy and paste the code from the template here, but to no avail. --PICAWN (talk) 17:10, 3 June 2012 (UTC)