# User talk:SVTCobra/2009 Archive

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## Thanks

Thanks, I look forward to helping out with the use of these tools. R.T. 02:25, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

## Khalid awan is facing a false,fabricated,conspiracious case by US

thanks i want to publish this letter ,i dont know how to do , please do for me thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arifmuhammad41 (talkcontribs) 22:40, 13 January 2009

I am afraid that I don't see how we can publish the letter on Wikinews. If there are new developments covered in news media that makes this a news event, then excerpts of the letter can be used in support of such an article. Without context, the letter is just not news. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

## Hey.

I know we don't get along well, like...at all, but I'm leaving these notes for Danish people who may be interested in starting a national chapter. I know you're not living in Denmark right now but I figured it would still be of some interest to you. Here's the note someone kindly translated for me.

Jeg kan se at du er aktiv på den engelske Wikipedia, og at du er fra Danmark. I skrivende stund, diskuterer vi på landsbybrønden et nyt forslag, om at starte en national afdeling, der vil blive kaldet Wikimedia Danmark. Hvis du er interesseret i at bidrage med noget tid til at få startet afdelingen, kan du skrive dit navn på denne side hos meta. Tak for din tid! Mike Halterman (talk) 08:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

We don't get along? --SVTCobra 09:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I think sometimes you can be a hard-ass and it rubs me the wrong way. I thought you had just felt the same, because you kept doing it. Mike Halterman (talk) 10:48, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, I think you are confusing being a hard-ass with being principled. As far as the Wikimedia Danmark, I wish you luck with the project. Unfortunately, I cannot commit any more time to Wiki-projects. There are those who say I should cut back the amount of time I already spend on Wikinews and take care of more important matters in meatspace. Cheers, --SVTCobra 17:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Principled is fine, but I think you're so rigid about it sometimes, like I know nothing about you as a person or your personality, which I can't say for everyone else who is active here. But it looks like WM DK will be taking off so I'm excited about that. Mike Halterman (talk) 22:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
What can I say ... I like my privacy. It is one of the reasons I never went for an WN:AR. I am sorry if you feel that not knowing what music I like (or whatever) is a hindrance to our ability to work together. You are perceptive, though. Not many have picked up on the fact that I have lived in Denmark. I will share with you that I was not born there and I am an American citizen. I remain fully fluent in Danish due to familial ties and frequent visits to the kingdom. I don't even have an accent, I am told. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

## French vs English

Hi SVTCobra! Re this move. Creche is British English as well as, presumably, French. Kinderdagverblijf in Flemish. Are we after US English (center rather than centre, theater rather than theatre), writer's English or localised English on Wikinews. (If it's one of the latter, creche is the word ;o) I know en:WP's rules on these things, but I'm new here so I'm still learning the ropes! All advice - even if just a link to a startlingly obvious policy page I should've found myself - gratefully received :o) Redvers (talk) 14:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I consulting WP before changing it. Crèche is defined only as a French word. If there had been an article, I would not have changed it. Cheers. --SVTCobra 14:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
The WP article says Crèche... is a French word that means day care. In English it may mean: Day care center (especially in some British Commonwealth countries), an organisation of adults who take care of children in place of their parents... so I still think you're wrong ;o) but I'm happy to go with your advice. Is there a Wikinews version of en:WP's English variants guideline? Thanks again and sorry to pester you! Redvers (talk) 14:57, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
All we have is this section in the style guide. Cheers, --SVTCobra 15:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Great! Exactly what I was after. I'll even (I sound so sad) print the page and read it on the train home tonight. Thanks very much - I'll leave you in peace now. Redvers (talk) 15:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
"Crèche" is not like keeping the spelling of the writer's English, imo. For example, it is not like "colour" versus "color". "Crèche" is a word that is without meaning to a great deal of the English-speaking world as well as to many who have English as a second language. Therefore, I argue for "day care" which is a term understood by all. --SVTCobra 01:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
First off, this is a word in English, though it is often spelt "creche" instead of "crèche", like many anglicized words with accents and the like. SVTCobra is right in that this isn't a commonly used word, so instead of linking it to Wikipedia, you should link it to Wiktionary. Just use "wikt:" instead of "w:" in the wikilink. Creche is defined there, in all its uncomplicated glory: there are just a few lines per definition. Wiktionary is often better for simple but specific definitions, whereas a link to Wikipedia is better for extended explanations of a general topic. I see nothing wrong with the use of this word if it is wiktied. Gopher65talk 01:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, you are right, Gopher. And I did not go so far as changing it throughout the article. I simply changed it in the title and added "day care center" in parenthesis. For better or worse, the speakers of US-English do outnumber the speakers of UK-English, and "crèche" (with or without the accent) simply has no meaning here. --SVTCobra 01:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

## Thanks

I noticed that I forgot to thank you for your congratulations on my successful RfA. Thanks;). Gopher65talk 17:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

## IRC

NP. I understood the situation at the time, which is why I called the discussion as I saw it. I had to go afk shortly after, but it seems to have resolved reasonably well. - 14:47, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

IMO he was on a huge ego-trip, demanding that I research who he was before touching his article. Launching that shitstorm on IRC was completely ridiculous over a couple of edit conflicts, getting several people fired up over nothing. He claimed he 'lost' two paragraphs worth of work, but there is no reason for losing any work over an edit-conflict, one can simply copy and paste it into the next edit. --SVTCobra 23:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

## Template:Date

Why not only Template:Date. Any difference?

Just want to know. nothing else..--119.154.47.253 19:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Without a parameter, it would constantly put in the current date, which is undesirable in our news archive. Cheers, --SVTCobra 19:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

## Khadr

Hoped to get Canadian lawyer urges Prime Minister to repatriate Omar Khadr Published ASAP if it's okay with you, I had it written and posted on Wikinews within an hour of the press conference -- now nearly 12 hours later...we're not really breaking "news"... Sherurcij 00:21, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Done The flagged revisions and the reviewing process does slow things down. But, as you know, we did what we had to do to get listed on news aggregators such as Google News. Cheers, and thanks for the original reporting, we don't have enough of it. --SVTCobra 00:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I still have a love/hate relationship with the Review Process and flagged revisions, can't decide whether they're worth the trade-off. I think flagged revisions probably are, and if we can bring things up to speed with reviews, it'll be good. We need to have that "3 stories awaiting review" in the header again...it was useful. Sherurcij 00:37, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
More active users is what is needed. BTW recent changes does have a Articles needing review: 4 in the header (at least when I view it). Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:41, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

## Improve

I have taken the liberty of publishing and sharing this important advancement of Dr A.Q Khan house arrest ends after 5 years of detention, so Help require in improving this article, with thanks Azamishaque (talk) 14:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I see it has been published as Pakistani nuclear scientist released from house arrest. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

## Re: {{under review}}

Sorry about that. I thought that only applied to articles under the {{editing}} tag. I'll try not to do it again. Best, -- ♪TempoDiValse♪  00:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I know, the template doesn't say anything like the editing one does. No worries. --SVTCobra 00:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

## Thanks

[1] Regards, Finnrind (talk) 17:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Must have the same thing happen to me. Thanks for the revert. —199.17.226.207 19:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

## Buffalo, New York plane crash may have resulted from pilot error

Please don't forget to sight articles after you have published them, this one remained in limbo for almost an hour before I sighted it. Oh, and thanks for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. Best, -- ♪TempoDiValse♪  23:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Yep, thanks. I forget often, though sometimes I catch myself. BTW, the delay in publishing US automakers GM and Chrysler seek more government aid was due to being at work and not forgetfulness. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

## Response to your question

Hello, I responded to your query at Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions#Questions.2FComments. Best, -- ♪TempoDiValse♪  03:40, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

## Interview notes

Where can I email them? Evrik (talk) 02:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

scoop@wikinewsie.org --SVTCobra 09:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

## Interview question

soon I will be interviewing Noam Chomsky, can I post the interview on wikinews as original reporting?Soapy (talk) 01:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

That is certainly a big interview. If you own the interview, then yes, you can publish it here as an original {{interview}}. If it is going to be published elsewhere under copyright protection, there will be a conflict. You must provide detailed notes of the interview, where when how, etc. Uploading an audio or video recording would be best of all. Also, since you are not an accredited Wikinewsie, perhaps you should speak with someone like Brian McNeil who is accredited and has experience with interviews of political figures. --SVTCobra 15:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Well I would consider myself an accredited wikinewsie lol, I have written at least dozen published articles, but yes I do own the rights to the interview and I'll speak to Brian after I do the interview about how I should go about publishing it Soapy (talk) 20:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

## Re:block of Poopysamgraham

You were right, indefblock was a bit harsh. I changed the length to a week. (But if he vandalises again after the block expires, then I shall certainly indefblock him.) Best, Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:00, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

## vandalism

svt you allready probably know about whats going on with that article just a heads up... --71.254.98.226 01:54, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

thanks --SVTCobra 01:59, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

## Scoop

No, I'm not, should I be? --Killing Vector (talk) 15:08, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Nobody was responding in the chat channel, so what I did was I sent Killing Vector the transcript myself. It was the quickest way to get it reviewed. Mike Halterman (talk) 15:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

## Portal Roads

Thank you so much for your help getting this portal importer to work! Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 21:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

## Re:review

I reviewed the paragraph that you wrote (but not the rest of the article, since you verified that), and published the article. Best, Tempo di Valse ♪ 02:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

## Marine jet crash into San Diego house blamed on string of errors

Yes, you are right. Sorry I missed that; I took my reversion back out of the article. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

## Philippines is culling 6500 hogs after Reston ebolavirus outbreak

Did you check for copyvio? Cirt (talk) 15:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I did my best ... it took me four hours. Caught some and found a direct quote that had been altered. That's not to say that it is impossible that something slipped through. --SVTCobra 15:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I think especially with the history involved and the background, that articles by this individual need to be checked more thoroughly for copyvio. Cirt (talk) 15:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I did a very thorough check ... I saw the previous failed reviews ... I fixed problems I found ... I know of Floro's history ... what more do you want??? I spent four freaking hours looking for copyvios! --SVTCobra 15:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

More thorough review is required of this user's contributions due to the history of copyvio. This was posted [2] to my talk page:

Florentino Floro

I'm not really involved with Wikinews so I just thought I'd tell you what I noticed, since you seem to be concerned with his behavior. I selected two random phrases from his approved articles and found copyvios; there must be a lot of copyvio involved if I found some two times in a row.
The ones I saw are in this article, with text copied from here (search for "reprimand") and this article which copied directly off this source (search for "akik"). --58.69.91.199 06:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I think that this necessitates admin action. Cirt (talk) 07:28, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

## Advice needed

I started an article in sandbox, and renamed the article. What did I do that published the article, cause I know the talk page needs to have notes saying someone else reviewed it. Was I supposed to tag it with unpublished or something? I don't think I did that with my last article? SriMesh | talk 22:43, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

You marked the article with the {{publish}} template, which should only be done after someone else has reviewed it. Instead, you should use {{review}} when your article is ready and you want someone to review it. Best regards, Tempo di Valse ♪ 22:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much, I left myself a note on my talk page so that I would remember. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 22:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

## Colleen Howe, wife of former hockey player Gordie Howe, dies at age 76

The funeral for Colleen Howe is March 11, 2009, today. The article was written timely about the passing, but the wikinews process did not work as a collaboration of editors coming together for her. It is a great tragedy that wikinews could not honour Colleen Howe, as she seemed to indeed be an awesome lady. SriMesh | talk 01:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I found new articles, is there a reason why it cannot be published as per the Copyright Newsworthiness Verifiability NPOV Style thingies, now that you have had a peek. We live near Floral, SK where Gordie Howe was born. The kids attended the same school Gordie Howe attended, and the school still honored Gordie Howe with their hockey program and the city still honours Gordie Howe in several ways, as Floral no longer exists. It was cool to grow up in his memory, and I cannot understand what is wrong with Colleen for wikinews. SriMesh | talk 01:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi me again. The section on funerals was removed again. That cannot go in wikipedia. If it is not NPOV as the info was written on March 9 about March 11, and now March 11 or 12 is here depending on the time zone, then cannot the content be changed to was.. which is what I was just about to do...and it was gone. SriMesh | talk 01:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
You cannot solicit donations or flowers for the Howe foundations, it violates WN:NPOV. Also, the way it was worded was in future tense: "On March 10" such-and-such will happen. --SVTCobra 01:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for fixing it then. Yes I know it was in future tense, as the article was written about the passing, then updated when services announced, then updated for the funeral, there won't be any more updates. so she has one week left to live I guess. Anyways gotta go, it is very very sad the everythingness of it.SriMesh | talk 01:53, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Came back, re read the title...Gordie Howe hailed from Canada not Colleen Howe. So it cannot be named Canada's "Mrs. Hockey" Colleen Howe is laid to rest ... rather Michigan's "Mrs. Hockey" Colleen Howe is laid to rest Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 01:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
duly noted. I will think of some fix. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

## Cricket: West Indies regain Wisden Trophy

They are just called the WestIndies. Not British Westindies

Please see this from Wiki Info. The team includes the english speaking caribbean countries which include Antigua, Trinidad, Barabdos, Jamaica and Guyana and British dependencies that form the British West Indies. Not just the British Westindies which include Anguilla,British Virgin Islands ,Cayman Islands ,Montserrat ,Turks and Caicos Islands

The West Indian cricket team, also known colloquially as The Windies or The West Indies, is a multi-national cricket team representing a sporting confederatation of a dozen English-speaking Caribbean countries and British dependencies that form the British West Indies.

i'm including a link from the Windies cricket board to make that they are just called WestIndies and Not British Westindies. Sorry for being the pest but i thought the news needs to be accurate

- Gvenkat5

I replied on your talk page. --SVTCobra 02:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

## Cricket: West Indies regain Wisden Trophy

"The West Indies, is a multi-national cricket team representing a sporting confederation of a dozen English-speaking Caribbean countries and British dependencies that form the British West Indies."

West Indies Cricket Team = English-speaking Caribbean countries + British dependencies that form the British West Indies.

From Wiki if u scroll down

British dependencies consists of Anguilla , Montserrat ,British Virgin Islands , These are the British dependencies that form the British West Indies.

The rest of the caribbean countries are independent of the British Influence in their government

```   *  Antigua and Barbuda
*  Barbados
*  Dominica
*  Grenada
*  Guyana
*  Jamaica
*  Saint Kitts and Nevis
*  Saint Lucia
*  Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
*  Trinidad and Tobago
```

These are totally independent of the British Unlike those three. That is why the team is called WestIndies and not British Westindies. I hope that helped. We should not say them as british westindies. If you want please refer to the sources as well. I know it's quiet confusing but i hope this really clears why i'm stressing the point

-- Cheers GVenkat5 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gvenkat5 (talkcontribs) 02:43, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

## Cricket: West Indies

Thanks. I'm glad that i was able to explain the game of cricket and compositions of teams to some one who wanted to know abt cricket.. it's an intersting sport... look out for it once in a while. Please approve the Draft copy i have- Cheers Gvenkat5 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gvenkat5 (talkcontribs) 02:55, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

## Timliness of reviews !!

i noticed your comments on one of my articles which sat their since Sunday without review....i spent the weekend at the event, did my own research (original reporting) and seems like i wasted my time....this is the second time its happended and makes me want to reconsidering contributing since i really hate wasting my time....

how do we fix this...is there not an order / priority for reviews? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjornengelhardt (talkcontribs) 04:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I would be upset if I were you. Yours is not the only case. Speak up at the Wikinews:Water cooler and/or Wikinews:IRC. I am busier than usual in real life, and can't really help the backlog any more than I already do. It is a real problem and original work (especially!) like yours ought not be lost. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

## Funes edits, advice

Thanks for the tips, and for your edits to the article. I do hope to be more involved, and as I am, I would welcome any guidance and feedback that you have to offer. --Shunpiker (talk) 03:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

## Publish The article

I think you intended to publish the article below. But it's still in review stage. I was not able to edit it since it went in to Draft mode. Please review and Publish --Gvenkat5 (talk) 00:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The article was inadvertently sighted ... however that doesn't mean you can't edit. Just edit the "draft" version. When it gets published it will include the versions from the draft, not just the so-called "stable" page. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
While we're at it, does anybody know of a way to un-sight edits? I asked this question at the water cooler a month ago, and nobody ever answered. :-( Tempo di Valse ♪ 01:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I do not at present know of a way to do that. --SVTCobra 02:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

## Sighting

Thanks. The new system is still giving me some problems. Calebrw (talk) 02:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

No worries. --SVTCobra 02:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

## C quote

Thank you for your note about quotes. I now see that wikipedia is also considering the quote templates archaic and to just add quotes to the text ordinary unless they are very long.SriMesh | talk 14:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

## User:Tempodivalse/Writing contest‎

Hi! I'm just sending out this note to all our active contributors saying that there's an article writing contest that's about to start, if you're interested in participating. Thanks. Tempo di Valse ♪ 14:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

## Replacing images

Thanks, would you mind taking this one as well. Regards, Finnrind (talk) 00:11, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Done --SVTCobra 00:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

## Just wondering

Why did you revert this? It seemed like a legit query, I was about to respond to it. Tempo di Valse ♪ 01:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

To me it seemed like intimidation by boilerplate. Feel free to revert and/or undelete anything I did in relation to this matter if you wish to continue a dialogue with Greysonpeltier14 (talk · contribs). --SVTCobra 01:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Hm. Looks like the user in question just quit. Tempo di Valse ♪ 02:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Doesn't seem like a "12-year-old" as claimed. --SVTCobra 02:27, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

## 2009 Queensland state election results

I am wondering how the linked page could have been abandoned when the count for this region is still ongoing?

Predicted to have a final count tomorrow, 5th April 09. --Dragarr (talk) 13:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

It is pretty simple. The article had not been touched since March 22; that is abandoned. Even if the certified results haven't been issued, there were plenty of results to be had. See Queensland state election on Wikipedia. If you want to write an article on the final results when they come out, there is nothing stopping you. We would love the contribution. Cheers, --SVTCobra 02:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

## Talk:United States senate candidate Al Franken increases lead in recount

Do you like that title better? Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 00:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

## Revert

Thanks for the revert on my talkpage. red-thunder. 22:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

no worries and no need to thank me. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

## NPOV

It is time to ask you for advice. You have an opinion that two of my articles are NPOV. I think I need further clarification so I can come to an understanding of your opinion. SriMesh | talk 03:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

You don't give me a lot to go on, but I think you are referring to Obama administration: Operatives who engaged in torture not to be punished and Afghanistan women protest Shia Family Law.
1. The problem with the first is that it is false. Agents (if any) who engaged in torture are still subject to prosecution.
2. The problem here is in generalization. There is no evidence that all Afghan women protest this law, only 100 to 200 ... the title is a misrepresentation (and it still persists).
I hope this answers your questions. --SVTCobra 00:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

## April 20th: 10 years ago: COLUMBINE Massacre

Ok, can you delete the page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 09akoguc (talkcontribs) 01:35, 21 April 2009

## Russia ends counter terrorism operation in Chechnya

Hi, SVTCobra! You left a comment on the talk page of Russia ends counter terrorism operation in Chechnya concerning NPOV. It seems difficult for me to find a "general" Chechen expression for the situation (because I do not know where to find in published news articles official or inofficial views other than the one of the Chechen local president which is quoted a lot (and basically coincides with the Russian view point)). Maybe you have any further idea? Regards, --Angela H. (talk) 09:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Replied at the article talk page. --SVTCobra 10:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

## Template:Cn

I've redirected your {{Cn}} template to {{Zh}}, which already exists, as the international language code for Chinese is the latter. (The two templates are almost exactly the same.) tempodivalse 16:21, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

D'oh! Yeah, it didn't make sense that we wouldn't already have Chinese. Thanks.--SVTCobra 16:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

## A penny for your thoughts

Okay, not really, but I am requesting your participation in the following Water Cooler Discussion: OR and Broadcast report. The discussion involves the need for specific policy concerning how Original Reporting relates to information recieved from a broadcast report of an event. This can include both news-style reports and non-news reports, such as a sporting event. Thanks and again, please share your thoughts on this so we can get as many people involved as possible, especially since this relates to an important topic such as OR. —Calebrw (talk) 05:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

## Egyptian archaeologists announce discovery of marble statue and 132 new sites

Added a comment about sources on the talk page so I could learn about which sources are which to use for future reference. SriMesh | talk 01:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Egyptian archaeologists announce discovery of marble statue and 132 new sites. --SVTCobra 02:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

## Herschel Space Observatory and Planck Satellite launched today by European Space Agency

Fixed links, sorry was called away after writing the article, and my re-read was obviously too short. I re-tested all the citation URL's and they all seem to open, and fixed the other oopsy's. SriMesh | talk 00:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Should the title / first paragraph say today or Thursday?SriMesh | talk 00:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Changed to Thursday from today as wikinews server changed to May 15 from May 14, even though I am still on May 14. SriMesh | talk 00:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Generally, we avoid using "today" in place of the day of week, as that is frequently ambiguous due to time zone differences (i.e. it could be Thursday in the Americas but already Friday in Australia). Tempodivalse [talk] 00:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Ahh! That makes sense and the wording of the new title also helps to not have a problem with the today/thursday etc problem. Thanks! Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 01:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
No need to thank me. --SVTCobra 01:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes, thanks again, you did an awesome job on the c/e keeping the mission and launch items seperate, it does read smoother. ... SriMesh | talk 04:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

## Mexico presents first population-wide genome map for a Latin country

Hello there. Me again. I received a reply on my talk page about verifying the above article and all seems to go well, but I cannot open the journal which is in English and free under open access. I can get to the abstract only. I also left a query on Tempodivalse's talk page. Do you as well have any advice about this last remaining verifying glitch concerning Sonora and Guerrero percentages in the (supplementary information's table S2, page 12), all else is verifiable. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 05:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

## re:{{editprotected}}

Can these wait until you get Sysop privileges? That would be a lot less work for everyone involved. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Oops, didn't get this until now. Well they could indeed, but I want to know what articles I'll be checking for typos as part of my personal goal to get ManUtd articles up to scratch. I day late and a dollar short, but I'm done now. Also, eventually I will have to replace Category:Manchester United with Category:Manchester United F.C.. Calebrw (talk) 01:02, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry if I misunderstood ... but it seems you are making Tempo make a bunch of edits to the archive that you are soon going to redo. How does that make sense? --SVTCobra 01:08, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Per IRC. Calebrw (talk) 01:13, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Yep, we talked on IRC .....--SVTCobra 01:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

## Wikinewsie

Check your email. Since you have trouble accessing your account, I have emailed the password I created the account with to you instead. Tempodivalse [talk] 00:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

## re: Please see this discussion

Thanks for the heads up. I responded with this diff. Calebrw (talk) 03:10, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

## Barnstar!

I, Tempodivalse, hereby award SVTCobra the Reviewer's Barnstar for tirelessly reviewing loads of articles every day. Keep it up! Tempodivalse [talk] 01:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Here's a little something for your excellent work. Cheers. Tempodivalse [talk] 01:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

## Find another lead!

The tank man image cannot be used on the main page! I believe this is due to not being able to display the AP copyright notice. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll take your word for it. It's been changed. --SVTCobra 23:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
It's in the image desc, but I can imagine what'll happen if Adambro spots it. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
LOL, but I fail to see the distinction between being in the article and in a synopsis for same article. I am going to check Flckr for images from the Hong Kong vigil. --SVTCobra 23:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

## Europeans take to the polls

What do you think of it now? I've tried to improve it a bit. I'm gonna go to bed now, but I am hopeful that it will be on the Main Page today (Sunday) and possibly there will be a seperate article tomorrow on the results. Jolly Ω Janner 02:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I see that this has now been fully developed and published while I was away. Cheers, --SVTCobra 21:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

## Reporting an vandal

IP user vandalize my page.--KDP3 (talk) 17:56, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:KDP3. If he continues being disruptive, please report him at WN:AAA. Tempodivalse [talk] 19:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

## OK

OK sure, will do, just getting used to how things are done round here! Dottydotdot (talk) 18:32, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

## Thanks

Thanks for all the edits you made to EPA declares an 'emergency' asbestos cleanup in Montana town! It looks amazing now! Thanks again! Irunongames (talk) 10:30, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

## Incorrect move summary

Actually, you're a bit confused about voices. "is (not) welcomed by" would be passive voice. "welcomes", with an appropriate subject (the entity actually doing the welcoming — e.g. "France welcomes") would be active voice. "to be (not) welcome" is actually neither of the twain. It's infinite, and the verb isn't even "welcome". It's "be". "welcome" is an adjective, here, not a verb.

Indeed, the main verb of the sentence in fact actually was in the active voice all along. The main verb is "states"/"says". Passive voice here would be "be stated by"/"be said by", and a passive voice headline would be Burqa stated by Sarkozy to be "not welcome" in France. The rest, following that main verb as its object, is indirect speech, in the form of a non-finite clause, with, ironically, an active voice infinitive. (There is no passive voice in English for the verb "be". It would be "is been", "was been", "will be been", and suchlike, none of which generally occur in English. The subordinate verb was in fact in the active voice all along, too.)

My advice is not to pretend that headline guidelines have anything to do with grammar. ☺ They really haven't. Most common headline guidelines run quite counter to conventional principles of grammar, or at the very least encourage telegraphese. (And when it comes to telegraphese, it's worth bearing in mind that in a newspaper that is not paper, we are not so constrained, in the way that paper newspapers are, by what will fit in a column in the given point size.) Uncle G (talk) 02:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

• Since you seem to be a professor of grammar, please fix the mistake I made. However, Sarkozy states burqa to be "not welcome" in France is incredibly stiff, imo. I'll throw out another suggestion, [[Sarkozy says the Islamic burqa will "not [be] welcome" in France]]. But, feel free to change back to your original. I will 'sight' it. --SVTCobra 02:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
• I'm not invested in one specific wording of the title. The mistake wasn't in the new title, anyway. As I said, the verbs were active voice to start with, and you didn't actually change that. The error was the summary itself, which isn't (easily) fixable. ☺ Being incredibly stiff is at least a reason that cannot be faulted for being gramatically ill-founded, and would have been a better move summary.

I'm not convinced that it's that stiff, though. It's a common enough construction. "She told the boy to be careful." "He declared the burqa to be unwelcome." Do you really see such sentences as incredibly stiff? Uncle G (talk) 03:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry, if my edit-summary was lacking. If he had used the term "unwelcome" then perhaps, but he used "not welcome." The sentence "he stated the burqa to be not welcome" does sound stiff or awkward to me.--SVTCobra 16:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
• The active voice includes using present tense per WN:NC#Active, not passive, voice.--SVTCobra 16:51, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
• Actually, no it doesn't. Note that those titles are telegraphese. The full form of the main verb in the first, without the telegraphese, would be "is shot by", which is as much present tense as "shoots" is. Past tense passive voice is "was shot by". Uncle G (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

## Young girl from India survives falling into 50 foot deep borewell

I replied on the talk page. If you / others do not agree.... delete the article, as I do not feel the article is notable with the removal of the paragraph. Perhaps someone can word it better than I, but the background of the culture in India is what to me shows the miracle of the girl's survival.SriMesh | talk 03:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you really think that all little girls are killed in India? Or that they don't bother to rescue little girls when they are in trouble? --SVTCobra 16:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
No, I don't think all little girls are killed in India only the 10 million over the last 20 years that the United Nations report mentioned. The girls that the families silently suffocate or starve are probably not rescued. It is soooo good in N. America, this type of news is shocking. These actions are what several families do in India - mainly from the sounds of it for economic survival as they cannot afford the dowry marriage. Political officials are mandating new laws, providing new monetary incentives for families of female children, enacting laws against the abortions of female foetuses, enacting law against provision of dowries to turn the society traditions around so the official initiated the rescue here. The rescue of the girl in comparison to the documentary is very extremely rewarding. It sounds like a very desperate and tragic situation in India according to the UN. The docuemtary mentioned that there were 4 males to every female adult, that the population shifted by that amount. I have never been to India, myself, so have to go by what the UN says or news/documentaries. I guess I didn't have reason to question the UN. The politicians really are trying hard to get the problems changed regarding females, infanticide, foeticide, dowry murders where bridegroom families burn wives to make it look accidental to re-marry and obtain a better dowry. SriMesh | talk 16:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
All I can say is to wait for a report on a current case of infanticide or suspicious disappearance. Don't use unrelated news to bend Wikinews rules. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

## Jackson

Obviously, there's more here. What do you think? A new article on the reactions to the death? Or a more extensive reactions section in Singer and songwriter Michael Jackson dies at age 50? (I think that the potted biography in that article that is growing is a very bad idea, by the way.) There are hefty financial consequences for the organizers of the previously forthcoming tour, too. Uncle G (talk) 02:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

## Brazil defeats South Africa 1-0, set for rematch in FIFA Confederations Cup Final

Cobra, can you sighted Brazil defeats South Africa 1-0, set for rematch in FIFA Confederations Cup Final?

Thanks! Vitorbraziledit talk 02:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Made. Vitorbraziledit talk 19:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

## Tropical Storm Blanca forms in the Pacific

Hi. Thanks for the fixes! Just wanted to let you know that I removed the U.S. cat, as it's irrelevant to the article. Hope you don't mind. Regards, –Juliancolton | Talk 22:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

No worries. It has been published. --SVTCobra 22:16, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Great, thanks. –Juliancolton | Talk 22:17, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

## Thanks

${\displaystyle {\color {Blue}{\mathfrak {Wikinews}}}:{\color {Sepia}The\;Free\;News\;Source}}$

Notice of Appreciation

Thanks for sorting out my phone tap article, I'm quite busy at the moment so much appreciated!  Tris   09:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

## Something I did on Wiktionary

I think you'll like this. I created the Danish proverbs category on Wiktionary, and then made entries for 32 proverbs. :) Mike Halterman (talk) 08:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

## Hi, please review Endeavour carrying Japanese Lab to Space Station

Hi, please review Endeavour carrying Japanese Lab to Space Station, this shuttle is launched 15 July. I upload in Commons the NASA Video for Main Page's of Wikinews, thanks Shooke (talk) 22:38, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Done --SVTCobra 00:10, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
TThank you so much Shooke (talk) 00:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

## Wikinews interviews Mike Lebowitz, chairman of the U.S. Modern Whig Party

SVTCobra, would you mind doing a peer review for the article above? --WNewsReporter (talk) 00:50, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

You might want to check my concerns at the collaboration page first. --SVTCobra 00:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
SVTCobra, I made the changes you requested regarding the Pew poll. It appears that the sentence regarding third party irrelevancy has already been edited out. Everything should be fine now. --WNewsReporter (talk) 01:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I really feel that you didn't make a 'best effort' in keeping the intro factual. I rewrote the first two paragraphs per the Pew survey. Please don't try to push a pov. --SVTCobra 01:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

## File:Gene amondson.jpg

I added a rationale to the above image. Is it sufficient? --William Saturn (talk) 04:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. I tidied a bit, but yes, it is fine. --SVTCobra 01:34, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

## RE: Recent articles with dual audio templates

Decent point, I was wondering if it was looking a tad cluttered with both of them in. For now on there shall only be one with the spoken audio taking priority. Thanks! --James Pain (talk) 10:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

## Reply on my talk page

Replied on my talk page. Computerjoe's talk 22:37, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I saw it. --SVTCobra 01:33, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

## Reviewers should actually review

You're a reviewer. Why don't you actually review? Uncle G (talk) 12:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

So are you. I have reviewed and published more stories than just about anyone. And that Puerto Rico story is not timely. --SVTCobra 12:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

## Norwegian Socialist article

Thanks for fixing up that article. I see that I missed a few things when I published it. Gopher65talk 23:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

No worries. That's what we do on a collaborative site. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:56, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

## arbcom

Thanks for the arbcom nom, I appreciate it :) Good Luck for your candidacy Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Good luck. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:56, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

## re: Melbourne terror raids nab suspects

see my comments at the Talk:Melbourne terror raids nab suspects--RockerballAustralia (talk) 05:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

## Re: Portals

You will actually be surprised to see that there are dozens of articles already published in Wikinews in relevance to these geographic locales, however the problem is that they cannot all be assorted into their categories as they are all archived. Ali Rana (talk) 01:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

If so, that is something that ought to be fixed. You can notify administrators by adding {{editprotected}} with an explanation on the collaboration page of the article. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok - thanks for the tip :) Ali Rana (talk) 02:33, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

## You got new reply

{{replied|Talk:Typhoon Morakot hits Taiwan resulting in several dead and injured despite preperations}} --98.154.26.247 (talk) (experienced editor at Wikipedia) 01:00, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

## Unsourced section

Re removal of Obama equated to Hitler as unsourced see my reply on the comment pageKTo288 (talk) 10:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

It was removed for being unattributed, not unsourced. Also, it did not form a sentence. --SVTCobra 12:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes not forming a sentence would be a problem. I think its pretty much unattributable, sorry for not understanding the difference, I could name a couple of the commentators who have made the comparison, but thats not really the important bit, what I wanted to get across was the grassroots reaction , I don't know how I would attribute the banners and placards equating the reforms with Nazism, the Obama pictures with Hitler moustaches etc, I could perhaps describe it, a second hand description of something seen on a TV screen, thats pretty much the impression we have of the story here in England but that could just tbe he news editors here pointing their cameras at the lunatic fringe. I guess its a story that could have done with more than a sentence or two. Anyway how is the story being reported on your side of the Atlantic?KTo288 (talk) 13:26, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
And I think you just pointed out another reason why it is inappropriate. It would violate WN:NPOV to just hightlight the fringe in a short. In a full article you can include the fringe, but a short doesn't have room for it. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

## 2 letter templates

And those 2 letter templates will still be used. That's another reason why I created the redirects this way around. This way when you use {{Ar}} you're going directly to the language Arabic language template. The {{Arabic}} template redirects to Ar, but it is normally only used for categorizing purposes. Gopher65talk 00:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, cool. I guess I didn't understand what exactly you were doing. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

## Thanks

Thanks for your note. Not to worry, I got in the habit of writing on my Wikipedia user page and stopped. By the way, thank you for your hard work straightening out the Baitullah Mehsud article. It was done at top speed when it looked like the Wikipedia ITN team would reject the story. I think the source template fields are random order but all are required. Anyway I was happy to go to sleep that night. -SusanLesch (talk) 03:08, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Does your country have a law about discrimination on the basis of sex or gender? I came from a meeting yesterday about passing a constitutional amendment in the United States. Which was a coincidence. I have it on my mind and it's about time the US passed it. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Being an American, yes, we have many such laws, though, as you know, no constitutional amendment. I am not sure that is the way to go, as it may have unforeseen consequences that I wouldn't like. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes, two come to mind: the military draft and alimony. Perhaps there are others. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

## You'd think I would have thought of that stuff.

This I mean. Glad you did. Calebrw (talk) 08:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

No worries. --SVTCobra 23:26, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

## My RfA

Just wanted to say thanks for participating in my RfA. I'll be sure to put the tools to good use. :) –Juliancolton | Talk 18:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

You can thank me by doing more thorough reviews than the one on British Army chief General Sir Richard Dannatt stands down. --SVTCobra 20:14, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, I tend to pay more attention to the quality of the article itself, rather than the more trivial issues, but I'll be more careful in the future. –Juliancolton | Talk 20:30, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

## WN:FAIR

Hi! I reverted your expansion of the Fair Use policy for now. Generally an established policy is not altered without a discussion, but in this case almost any use of a historic event image will end up not falling under Fair Use because most of those images were created by news agents. For example, the image of the second flag raising on Iwo Jima - despite being a US icon - is a copyrighted news image, and is still marketed as a news image. However, if you feel the expansion of the policy should be in place, please feel free to bring it up on the Water cooler and check it with WMF legal counsel. - 21:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I have noted your comment and will look into it. --SVTCobra 01:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

## Thank You!

Thank you for your help in developing my first article (the FIFA world cup draw.) I'm really glad you're on hand to fix my newbie mistakes (also, your page title is much better than the one I came up with.) Taggart.BBS (talk) 02:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit: Question regarding image use - wikipedia has an image (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2010_FIFA_World_Cup_logo.svg) which could be included, but I am unsure of whether the fair-use rationale can be carried over for use in this article. If it is allowed, it would make a nice addition to the article.

Yes, thanks for asking, we can use such images. But before you do that, I want to create an infobox which will serve as a sidebar to this and (what I hope will be many) future articles about the 2010 World Cup. --SVTCobra 03:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

## Re: Times Sq

Thanks! Cocoaguy (talk) 05:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)