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unsubscribed?

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Hello! I unsubscribed everyone from 'welcome a bit', as I am not sure who is still interested. If you would like to continue receiving notifications, please visit Special:EmailUser/Gryllida and write "Re-subscribe for 'welcome a bit'" in the message body. Thanks!. -Gryllida (talk) 03:43, 7 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • @Gryllida: Hi I hope you've been well :) It's probably for the best I'm taken of this list, I felt at one point it'd encourage me to take a look at the review queue more often, but life keeps me busy and I doubt I'll ever has the same amount of time to contribute to any Wikimedia project as I once did. —mikemoral (talk · contribs) 04:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
    Hi, thank you for your reply! Are you at live chat? I could ping you there to test software sometimes. It is probably a smaller commitment than reviewing. Gryllida (talk) 04:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Just note, we are now on irc.libera.chat instead of irc.freenode.net.
•–• 05:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
After confusion about all the empty rooms, I found my way to Libera, Thanks! —mikemoral (talk · contribs) 05:01, 28 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Re the spam/copyvio bots

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Re SPShuttersDoorsandBlinds, Pi had suggested, for any vandal/spambot/copyviobot it is better to first block them and then revert the mess they made. Blocking before deelting means they have lesser time to vandalise things.
•–• 04:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Noted, it almost seemed like they were trying actual contributions, but thinking back now that's a definite stretch. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 05:04, 22 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wikify

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Thanks for wikifying the archives -- it is a long overdue! Though I might suggest you use Underline in green categorizable {{w}} links gadget -- which will give a visual indication of which {{w}} links can be converted to hard links -- after wikification, hard linking is the next task, and if we can do it in one go, that would really be a time-saver!
•–• 04:56, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

It's just a shame there's no super easy way to convert the [[w:]] links automatically. I have the gadget enabled, though I'm just trying to work out a less painful way of changing over w: links to {{w}}. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 05:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
It requires sapient judgement, sometimes -- though, using Vim (editor) makes text navigation and changes quite easy -- though there is some steep learning curve to it.
•–• 05:29, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
I really really suggest you do NOT automate those changes, it is a hot mess, and a disaster and creates more work than it solves.
•–• 05:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
AWB mainly had the dialogue window useful for working out the regex to find the things to replace —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 05:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

I Want a Page

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Hello, please i want a Article on wikinews i am an Artist and i need you to create for me _ _ _ _ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 105.112.104.254 (talkcontribs)

Hello, if you want to write a news article about a current event you may want to start with Wikinews:Writing an article. If it's a news article about yourself please see Wikinews:Requested articles. Otherwise, Wikinews is not Wikipedia, and we don't write encyclopedic articles here. Wikinews is a citizen journalism website with news articles written by freelance volunteers from around the world. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 04:03, 18 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Australian COVID-19 articles

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Hi, Chaetodipus. Would you be able to review these Australian COVID-19 articles? I already have three at my hand, and will greatly appreciate if someone could share some load.
•–• 14:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I should have some free time to take a look after 23:00 UTC today. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 15:05, 20 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Working........

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....on your L.A. article right now.--Bddpaux (talk) 15:41, 22 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

All done! Good article!--Bddpaux (talk) 16:35, 22 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Bddpaux: Thanks for taking a look at it! —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 03:23, 23 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

One small thing, while I'm at it........

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There are a number of bits and baubles over at 'Request for Permissions' that need some voting actions. Could you jump over there soon, please?--Bddpaux (talk) 16:09, 22 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'd been putting that off, but it's done now —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 03:44, 23 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks!!--Bddpaux (talk) 15:34, 23 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

My word!!

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How is it that you (or your former self) never got one of these??!

This award is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.
This award is presented to new reporters who have started 10 or fewer news articles.

--Bddpaux (talk) 19:27, 24 July 2021 (UTC)Reply








Well, heck!

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That was some bad math on my part....I think this might be closer to accurate!

This award is presented to Wikinews reporters upon their 11th published news article.
This award is presented to Wikinews reporters upon their 11th published news article.

--Bddpaux (talk) 19:31, 24 July 2021 (UTC)Reply




Thank you!! —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 22:40, 24 July 2021 (UTC)Reply


Y'know.....for what its worth...........

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I've never entirely quite understood the whole 'protected' thing, but more importantly, historically: who do we allow to edit standing articles? Pretty much autoconfirmed users and up?--Bddpaux (talk) 14:54, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Bddpaux: protecting against move (admins only indef is a must) but due to the number of vandals we had, we protect published articles from editing -- granting only autoconfirmed and above, as you said.
•–• 14:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Yes, generally it's autoconfirmed after publishing. It sort of adds an extra protection against anon users from messing with things on the article, since we have already the flagged revisions to make sure all edits get checked by a reviewer as well. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 17:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

ArbCom 2021

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Hi Chaetodipus. I was wondering if you'd be willing to stand for ArbCom this year? If you don't wish to nominate yourself, I would be happy to nominate you.
•–• 07:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Acagastya: Sure, I'd accept a nomination. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 03:46, 30 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Tunisia article

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Published!--Bddpaux (talk) 16:53, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Bddpaux: Thanks! And thanks for getting to the weightlifting article too! —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 03:41, 30 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

page protection

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Hi, post-publication, edit=autoconfirmed (indef) and move=admin (indef) please -- you are keeping move=autoconfirmed (indef).
•–• 16:59, 30 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

At some point, this should probably be included in WN:Protection policy. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 06:45, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Bermuda triathlete

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Unfortunately, that has gone badly stale. Any way to freshen it up a bit?--Bddpaux (talk) 15:09, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

I know you're away, but I need to take cleanup action anyway. Sorry if we lost this one.--Bddpaux (talk) 19:42, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Userspace drafts

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Hello. I’ve come across a number of draft articles in userspace, including the following ones in your userspace.

There’s no immediate hurry but please could you let me know if you still need them or if we can delete them. Many thanks. --Green Giant (talk) 22:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Trap article......

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Has gone terribly stale. Sorry.--Bddpaux (talk) 16:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Ah, well, it's the perennial Wikinews problem I guess. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 06:45, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

User:MikemoralBot

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Hello. Just wanted to check if this account is still in use as a bot because it seems the last edit was in 2010? --Cromium (talk) 22:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Cromium: Sorry for the late response, but it's no longer in use. I think it was very briefly used as a message delivery bot for a writing contest. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 22:17, 10 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thsnk you for getting back to me. I’ve removed the bot permission but feel free to request it again if needed. Cheers. [24Cr][talk] 07:19, 30 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

September 14, 2021

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I want to know as sources does this news https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/First_biography_in_poetry_form. Will publish in Wikinews or not —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2405:201:3000:4110:d1ca:7535:7b17:4227 (talkcontribs) 04:28, 14 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Publishing your California gender-neutral department stores article

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Slight issue with it. Not anything you've done, but EzPR doesn't seem to be working for me. I'm all ready to publish it, but I can't. I've tried using three different browsers and clearing my cache/checking my settings to make sure JavaScript works, and it's still not working - neither is WN:Make lead. Should I use the "Mark this page as reviewed (use EzPR where possible)" button to publish manually? --LivelyRatification (talk) 21:50, 10 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hmm, that's very strange. I tried using Make Lead and EzPR and neither worked for me as well. It should be possible to do a manual publish by just placing {{Publish}} on the article, and {{Peer reviewed}} on the talk page. Though, I'm not sure how to manually update the RSS feeds which (should) send articles to Google News. @Bawolff: had been maintaining the EzPR gadget, but I'm not sure why it wouldn't be working now. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 22:04, 10 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
@LivelyRatification: I've also tried out using two more browsers just now, and none of them worked. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 22:09, 10 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Chaetodipus: Yeah, I've basically tried everything and it hasn't worked. I reckon it might be a problem with the gadget. If it's not working on your end as well (which it should if this is just a me problem), then I'll publish manually (that being said, I'm also not sure how to update RSS feeds). --LivelyRatification (talk) 22:17, 10 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
@LivelyRatification, I'm not sure about the RSS thing, but I want to say it's automatic based what it says at Special:NewsFeed which just pulls articles from categories (at least it looks like that, I'm not definitely not very technically skilled) —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 22:28, 10 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
you need to also mark the page as reviewed in flagged revs for it to show up in the rss feed. Bawolff 06:37, 11 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
I think i fixed the JS issues, but I don't super remember how it worked and I didn't test it very thoroughly, so let me know if its still broken. Bawolff 07:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Bawolff: Thank you!! I'm confused about the RSS feed now. Does a reviewer need to go to Special:Stabilization to mark it checked from there? I just did that and it added it to the feed. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 07:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Actually, nevermind, I don't think that did anything —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 07:30, 11 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
im not sure, but looks like its there now https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:NewsFeed?feed=atom Bawolff 19:43, 11 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Maybe there's a lag for the feed to pick it up, I really don't know —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 22:28, 11 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Revert

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Hi, why this change? This user is banned from WMF (see) and cannot modify any projects. Indeed, it should be blocked instantly... thanks --Mtarch11 (talk) 04:52, 13 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Mtarch11: Sorry, I may have misclicked there when I was clearing up that vandalism. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 05:48, 13 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
No problem :) Thanks --Mtarch11 (talk) 05:55, 13 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

obits

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so you fixed my attemp to edit what is the correct SYNTAX CoachZeeeee (talk) 15:59, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

@CoachZeeeee: Hi, I removed the section you added to Wikinews talk:To-Do List because it didn't seem to be constructive, at least asking for where your own obituary is. Generally speaking, you probably can't ask for one once you're a candidate to have an obit written about yourself. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 23:41, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Georgia

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In case if you are cleaning up some archives, could you please fix Georgia-related links? Special:WhatLinksHere/Georgia -- it should be either the state xor the country, and should not link to Georgia itself.
•–• 22:14, 16 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Nvm, managed it.
•–• 22:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
At least it wasn't that many that needed diambiguation —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 00:56, 17 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

archiving retracted stories?

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Hi. If North Korea launches "early-stage" hypersonic missile was not retracted, it would have been archived by now. During my time here, I don't recall articles being retracted. Any idea how those are handled? Any do's and don'ts to mind?
•–• 15:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Acagastya: Hi, I checked through Category:Retracted articles to be sure, but the general practice has been to archive them after a while. Two of those nine in the cat haven't been archived, but I guess we probably should tag them with {{archived}}, and probably removed {{published}} to hide the social links. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 00:35, 21 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

How we will see unregistered users

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Hi!

You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

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We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Temporary change to article length

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Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current proposal. The minimum requirements for article length will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! [24Cr][talk] 23:16, 31 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Temporary change to freshness

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Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current proposal. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! [24Cr][talk] 17:37, 4 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for editing, appreciated. This is an interesting story. Gryllida (talk) 01:18, 14 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Revdel

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Please delete this revision. Thanks, Heavy Water (talk) 06:09, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Donechaetodipus (talk · contribs) 17:52, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Scoop

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Are you on scoop, by any chance? You don't seem to have a wn-reporters email address. I ask because if you aren't, that confirms we only have two users on scoop who have been active in the past year: Bddpaux and RockerballAustralia. Heavy Water (talk) 22:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

I do not have scoop access, and I haven't had access for a very long time at this point —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 19:36, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

LTA

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Hi, I created a new filter, but I got the code from another user who is not a sysop here (I don't know the syntax for coding filters). Can you check it and see if you think it should work? Cheers, SVTCobra 19:21, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'm definitely not the most well-versed in filter editing (the one I made earlier took an amount of time I'd rather not admit spending), but afaict the new one looks like it should work for the recent LTA. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 19:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
I ran a test after unhiding and I think it will work. SVTCobra 19:34, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

please temporarily restore my user page

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I was told that my private userpage somehow violated this wikis rules because the content it had was designed for wikipedia instead. I do oppose having my userpage, that I worked for hours on, to be deleted without warning. However, if it's absolutely mandatory for it to be moved to wikipedia instead, then please help me by restoring the page long enough for me to move my content to wikipedia. Pikazilla (talk) 13:12, 21 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Request

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Can you block and delete the pages of User:SVTCobra 2.0? It is not an alt account of mine. I don't know why, but I think it would be unseemly if I did it myself. It's an impersonation account. Cheers, SVTCobra 07:29, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Done That's a bit weird someone would bother to do that. Hmm, fwiw, I should get around to adding a note that I have w:User:Chaetodipus2 registered though, and I'll have to get around to making a global account. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 08:04, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Open request for unblock

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Hey, could you look at this? Suryanshvdg has requested unblocked after tripping a spam filter. Heavy Water (talk) 04:22, 8 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Done The edit did seems somewhat promotional, but not strictly speaking advertising, but I've unblocked the affected user. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 07:40, 8 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Any chance you might have time to review this at some point between now and when it becomes stale on Thursday evening? I'd really appreciate it. I can try to trim the background to ease review. Then, of course, you might, reasonably, judge it to have lost freshness with the developments with the protective order request. Heavy Water (talk) 05:46, 9 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

I should have time later today after midnight UTC to take a look. Looks like any hearing for a protective order is to be held Friday fwiw so not quite stale, though perhaps the article can reflect that development. I haven't yet read it admittedly. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 13:39, 9 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
That'd be great. I've been updating it to reflect this week's developments in that area as they occur. Heavy Water (talk) 14:19, 9 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Sanity check

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I'm starting to second-guess my choice of headline when reviewing US government sues SpaceX, claims hiring discrimination against asylees: since a comma is supposed to substitute for "and" and this headline refers to claims in the lawsuit, perhaps "US government sues SpaceX, claiming hiring discrimination against asylees" would be more accurate. Could you please let me know what you think? Heavy Water (talk) 03:52, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Overall I think it's fine, though perhaps I'd have tried to avoid using "asylees" as an uncommon, somewhat legal-sounding word in a headline. The comma there is good, since it's indicating two separate actions by the govt in headlinese. I might have gone with something like "U.S. govt sues SpaceX claiming/alleging hiring discrimination against those granted asylum" which hopefully sounds less like legal jargon (which the SG discourages via Orwell's tips). —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 04:33, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
OK. I chose "asylees" because the sources appeared to be referring to both asylum seekers and grantees as allegedly discriminated against, and "asylees" can encompass both, to my knowledge; I guess "refugees" also would've worked. Heavy Water (talk) 15:46, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Gauff

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I put up for another review, since you formatted the story better. Also the title needs a change. I lost my password, so im using IP for now... Apologies to you and Heavy Water. HushPuppie280 64.39.81.54 (talk) 01:58, 10 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Don't worry about it, even I'm on my second account from a lost password. Perhaps it would be helpful as you learn to write news-style prose, to compare the before and after, and I hope this helps you with what's meant by refocusing. News events can happen quickly (especially with Wikinews' glacial pace of publication) so it's pretty common to have to change up what you've written, possibly even scratching the whole dang thing. But the old material already written can be pretty useful for background for the most recent news event. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 03:09, 10 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

social media (cross-posted to all members of reviewer group)

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Hi, Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#social_media_for_reviewers_and_authors_and_developers may be of interest to you as a reviewer, thanks and regards, Gryllida (talk) 05:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Requesting a review

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Hi @Chaetodipus, I know it's probably been a long time, but I wanted to humbly ask you to review my first Wikinews article here: World Athletics Indoor Championships concludes in Glasgow with new world records and significant wins.

If you are not able to review it, I was wondering if you could approve Asheiou's RfP here to increase the reviewer pool.

Please let me know if you'll be able to assist, because I would really appreciate a review before my first article goes stale and gets deleted. I'd be happy to review one of your articles in exchange if I ever become a reviewer myself in the future.

Thank you so much, --Habst (talk) 16:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Review???

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I have an article that needs reviewing. Think you could jump on it, please??--Bddpaux (talk) 16:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Bddpaux: I have a few hours free tonight to take a look. It looks like all the necessary notes are already there, so hopefully I can power through tonight —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 02:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Changes made to this article.--Bddpaux (talk) 14:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi
(I am messaging all reviewers)
Hope you are doing well.
Here are submitted for peer review:
Could you please review? Even a little edit or just one review would help a lot. (I don't require a commitment to review every day from now on.)
Would you like to get notified of new drafts submitted for review? If so, please tell me which topics (or any topic) and where (email, wiki messages, push notification on smart phone, notification in wiki Notifications, or somewhere else).
Would you find a WN:RNA page for reviewers useful, it would be similar to WN:AAA but intended for reviewers to discuss reviewing and related software.
Would you be interested other communications off-wiki to create audio or video contact with other reviewers? I think this online gathering could be an essential part to deduce how to make article authoring and review easier. It could be just 30 minutes a month, and you don't have to participate every time. I would write a meeting minutes note after each session and publish it on-wiki if desired.
Thanks!
Regards, Gryllida (talk) 11:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please review

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I'm posting requests with assistance of Reviewing to Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance now and for the next few days, please check? Could you please add this page to watchlist and/or click 'Subscribe' and/or setup email notifications, and check your notifications or emails? Thank you in advance! Gryllida (talk) 00:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Gryllida, hope you've been well. Just a sort of general reply here. I've been busy IRL as I'm sure many if not all Wikinewsies are. I'll see what I can do about working in an hour or two to work on reviews. Reviewing has always been a time sink for this project. I've seen there's a discussion on the review process and changes that could be made, and hopefully I can catch up on the discussions there. I'm not sure I'd have much to contribute towards them, but I like to remain optimistic about keeping the project alive and functioning. I do see the above about having meetings via video/voice could help facilitate the project's goal of publishing news. I remember in the times long ago, IRC chat really did help a lot in getting collaboration among the newsies. Even having a communication channel like that could help. IRC may be a bit old-fashioned now, but another platform could help out and not scare away potential contributors with its antiquatedness. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 03:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi chaetodipus 🙂
I agree with you, being busy can be a problem. Housing is being a bit more of a challenge now: more dense, life more busy, and my place requires constant maintenance.
I am "gry" on IRC. Acagastya is there.
Matrix group could be another option, https://app.element.io/ is a web client, no install required. I am Svetlana:matrix.org send me a message to join the group chat I just created for Wikinews. Someone needs to figure out how to post a link to it on wiki. I could not copy paste it.
One Wikinewsie is also in telegram.
I think there was nobody editing others' articles mostly. Mostly writing their own. After submitting for review a automated message could be left to the user listing other current drafts and inviting to assist, and asking to confirm which draft they would like to start working on while awaiting review. English Wikipedia have some software for similar tasks. Your guidance of what, where and how to implement would be most appreciated. I can try my best to make it happen.
Regards, -- Gryllida (talk) 11:17, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Review please?

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Queue: *3* in total: Monday (1), Tuesday (2). It is currently *Wednesday*. One breaking story (hurricane). 🥺🥺🥺 Gryllida (talk) 09:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply